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Ira Vaidya Deshpande

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Aug 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/22/96
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Hi...

Was just trying to figure out the family tree of the Paranjpe's ;-)

As Vaishali said, Winnie (Ashwini) was from St. Joseph's in Poona
(my alma mater) and was known as Ashwini Joglekar. She finished her
10th std. in 1979. I'm not sure if she did marry one of the Shah
twins...Jay or Vijay. I'll find out in a day or two and post it. She
was engaged to one of them (I can never remember which one) about 1.5
yrs ago and is probably married too.

I'm wondering - if Sai's father was Russian his last name was definitely
not Paranjpe. In other words, did Sai's mother marry Wrangler Paranjpe
and was he Sai's step-father?

Too much to keep track off - I'm trying though ;-)!!!

Ira Deshpande
i...@idx.com

*MAG*

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Aug 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/23/96
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*MAG*
To forget recursion you must forget recursion.
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Ira Vaidya Deshpande <deshp...@idx.com> wrote in article
<321C85...@idx.com>...

Smt.Shakuntala Paranjape who is Sai's mother married a Russian person named
Yuri <forgot the last name>. They were separated later and Yuri went back
to Russia. ShakuTai (as she is called) is Wrangler Paranjape's daughter.
She uses her father's last name and Sai Paranjape uses the same surname
(i.e. her Grandfather's.)

Sai's children use her husband's (Arun Joglekar's) last name.
Sai also has a son Gautam (Joglekar) who acted opposite Madhuri Dixit in
"Prahaar". LAst I met him in 1994, he was into directing.

Sanjay Anand

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Aug 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/23/96
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Dear Ms. Deshpande,

I have what might be considered an odd question. I apologize in
advance. I wish to ask you about your name.

My daughter (4 years old) is named Ira as well. It was an impulsive
decision and we did not really do much research into the references. We
assumed it was a form of 'Ila' referring to Saraswati. Have you looked
into the meaning of your name? Do you know what else it might refer to?

I would appreciate any reflections you may have on your name including
the confusion with the common Jewish male name here.

Thanks.

Sanjay Anand
Department of Anthropology
Cornell University
sw...@cornell.edu


Shashi Sathaye

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Aug 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/23/96
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Ira Vaidya Deshpande wrote:
>
> Hi...
>
> Was just trying to figure out the family tree of the Paranjpe's ;-)
>
> As Vaishali said, Winnie (Ashwini) was from St. Joseph's in Poona
> (my alma mater) and was known as Ashwini Joglekar. She finished her
> 10th std. in 1979. I'm not sure if she did marry one of the Shah
> twins...Jay or Vijay. I'll find out in a day or two and post it. She
> was engaged to one of them (I can never remember which one) about 1.5
> yrs ago and is probably married too.
>
> I'm wondering - if Sai's father was Russian his last name was definitely
> not Paranjpe. In other words, did Sai's mother marry Wrangler Paranjpe
> and was he Sai's step-father?
>
> Too much to keep track off - I'm trying though ;-)!!!
>
> Ira Deshpande
> i...@idx.com
I know many people will answer this.
Wrangler Paranjape was Shakuntala Paranjape's father. Shakuntala
kept her maiden name and also gave it to her daughter Sai.
They lived in Pune after Shakuntala came back from USSR.
Wrangler Paranjape was brother of Mrs. Baya Karve - wife of
famous Dr. Dhono Karve founder of Hingane women's institute
(now S.N.D.T. university).
One of the readers posted what exactly Shakuntala did that was
important... She wrote many good stories. At the time when women
were considered a 'weaker sex', she challenged all traditions
and showed that sometimes a woman can be stronger than many men
around her. She should not be held 'ideal' for her
cigar smoking, but for her lack of inhibition.
--
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| but heart(&SWEET-HEART) in Math.| Shashi Sathaye
| or can it be Sanskrit? |
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R. P. Harshavardhan

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Aug 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/23/96
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*MAG* (m...@eskimo.com) wrote:

: --

: *MAG*
: To forget recursion you must forget recursion.
: http://www.eskimo.com/~mag

: Ira Vaidya Deshpande <deshp...@idx.com> wrote in article
: <321C85...@idx.com>...

: > Hi...


: >
: > Was just trying to figure out the family tree of the Paranjpe's ;-)
: >
: > As Vaishali said, Winnie (Ashwini) was from St. Joseph's in Poona
: > (my alma mater) and was known as Ashwini Joglekar. She finished her
: > 10th std. in 1979. I'm not sure if she did marry one of the Shah
: > twins...Jay or Vijay. I'll find out in a day or two and post it. She
: > was engaged to one of them (I can never remember which one) about 1.5
: > yrs ago and is probably married too.
: >
: > I'm wondering - if Sai's father was Russian his last name was definitely
: > not Paranjpe. In other words, did Sai's mother marry Wrangler Paranjpe
: > and was he Sai's step-father?
: >
: > Too much to keep track off - I'm trying though ;-)!!!
: >
: > Ira Deshpande
: > i...@idx.com

: >
: Smt.Shakuntala Paranjape who is Sai's mother married a Russian person named


: Yuri <forgot the last name>. They were separated later and Yuri went back
: to Russia. ShakuTai (as she is called) is Wrangler Paranjape's daughter.
: She uses her father's last name and Sai Paranjape uses the same surname
: (i.e. her Grandfather's.)

: Sai's children use her husband's (Arun Joglekar's) last name.
: Sai also has a son Gautam (Joglekar) who acted opposite Madhuri Dixit in
: "Prahaar". LAst I met him in 1994, he was into directing.

The name of Sai's father (as far as I remember) was Uri Laplotz. He
indeed was a Russian.

H


R. P. Harshavardhan

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Aug 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/23/96
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Sanjay Anand (sw...@cornell.edu) wrote:
: Dear Ms. Deshpande,

: Thanks.

The name Ira (and all other similar names such as Irina, Rina, Ina) in
the western cultures originate from Irene - the greek godess of peace.
I don't know the Sanskrit origins of the name though.

Harsh


Abhay Patil

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Aug 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/24/96
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In Marathi there is an idiom (? vaak-prachaar) which goes :

"ire-s paDoon ekhaadee goshT karaNe"

May be "iraa" has origin there - meaning "fierce committment" ?

/abhay

R. P. Harshavardhan (ha...@wam.umd.edu) wrote:

Shirish Sane

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Aug 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/26/96
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On 24 Aug 1996, Abhay Patil wrote:

> In Marathi there is an idiom (? vaak-prachaar) which goes :
>
> "ire-s paDoon ekhaadee goshT karaNe"
>
> May be "iraa" has origin there - meaning "fierce committment" ?
>
> /abhay
>

Or may be it is apabhransh of Heeraa? If this indeed is the case, people
with name Ira should consider themselves very fortunate for dropping H
in their first name because Californians might have spelled their
name as Jeeraa (as in San Jose)

-Shirish

Satish Y. Deodhar

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Aug 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/26/96
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Shashi Sathaye wrote:

>One of the readers posted what exactly Shakuntala did that was
>important... She wrote many good stories. At the time when women
>were considered a 'weaker sex', she challenged all traditions
>and showed that sometimes a woman can be stronger than many men
>around her. She should not be held 'ideal' for her
>cigar smoking, but for her lack of inhibition.

I did not want to criticize her cigar smoking. She was easily
identifiable in a crowd due to her smoking. Talking about Apte Rd,
another personality that comes to mind is the majestic figure of Major
General Paranjape. He would go for a walk on Apte Rd. with a walking
stick and a pipe in his mouth. He driving his pistochio colored,
shining, big British car was a sight to watch.


Satish Y. Deodhar

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Aug 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/26/96
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Ira must have come from Iravati (Karve). May be Airawat's (Indra's
vehicle) wife is Irawati?! This seems too far fetched though.

Satish


Devendra

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Aug 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/26/96
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Shashi Sathaye wrote:
>
>
> I know many people will answer this.
> Wrangler Paranjape was Shakuntala Paranjape's father. Shakuntala
> kept her maiden name and also gave it to her daughter Sai.
> They lived in Pune after Shakuntala came back from USSR.
> Wrangler Paranjape was brother of Mrs. Baya Karve - wife of
> famous Dr. Dhono Karve founder of Hingane women's institute
> (now S.N.D.T. university).
> One of the readers posted what exactly Shakuntala did that was
> important... She wrote many good stories.
> --

Sai wrote an article in Ravivar Maharashtra Times Purwani
last year. The article was about Karve and Parajape clan, their
relationships, etc. Great Sai's relationships with other great Iravati
Karve made enjoyable reading.

Shakuntala paranjape's aatmacharitra " kahi Aambat kahi god"
is very interesting to read. I first read it when in 8th grade.
I remember a chawat joke from it clearly. Diwaliche divas astat.
Wrangler parajpayanchi aai tyanna aanghol ghalat aste. Shakauntala
bajula ubhi rahun babanchi aanghol pahat aste. Wrangler parajpyanchya
potacha nagara pahun tynachi aai mhanate" kay ganapati zalay nusta".
Shakuntala : Pan aajji, sond kuthay ?
Aajji : aahe khali !

Jidhnyasunni he pustak mulatun vachave !

Zexel Corp

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Hi there:

Just adding my 2c worth to this thread. I used to live in the
same bungalow as Mrs Shakuntala Paranjpe and Winnie for about
15 yrs and have known Winnie very closely. We were in the same (std X) batch
of 1979 but I studied in St. VIncent's.

Actually the family tree goes like this.

Wrangler Raghunathrao Purushottam Paranjpe 's daughter is Shkuntala
Paranjpe who married Mr. Yuri Sleptzoff a Russian who was living in Paris
where they met. When Mr. Sleptzoff and Shkuntala Paranjpe divorced, she
retained her maiden name which was assumed by Sai too. Sai is the daughter
of Yuri and Shakuntala (hence the caucasian features). Sai married Arun
Joglekar and Winnie and Gautam aer their children.

It's been nearly 8 years I have been here and my folks moved away
from that house so I have been quite out of touch with Winnie. I met
her last in 1992 but very briefly. So I am not sure whether she did get
married to (Jay Shah) or not.

-Kirti


From article <321C85...@idx.com>, by Ira Vaidya Deshpande <deshp...@idx.com>:

Shirish Sane

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Aug 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/26/96
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On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Sameer Mahajan wrote:

> chyaayalaa sanyaa kiti phata marayachyaa... kahi dhanda nahi ka...

Kaay karaNaar, jeetyaachi khoD aahe. Aata hii 'dhandewaik' phat:

#include "puran.h"

extern void Mrs(void)
extern void Apabhransh(void)
extern void Short(void)

main()
{
airawat = Indrache_Vehicle();
airawati = Mrs(airawat);
irawati = Apabhransh(airawati);
ira = Short(irawati);
return()
}

P.S. Ira naavachyaa vyaktinni krupayaa raagaavu vagaire naye.

-Shirish


Ira Vaidya Deshpande

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Aug 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/27/96
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Shirish Sane wrote:
> Kaay karaNaar, jeetyaachi khoD aahe. Aata hii 'dhandewaik' phat:
> #include "puran.h"
> extern void Mrs(void)
> extern void Apabhransh(void)
> extern void Short(void)
>
> main()
> {
> airawat = Indrache_Vehicle();
> airawati = Mrs(airawat);
> irawati = Apabhransh(airawati);
> ira = Short(irawati);
> return()
> }
>
> P.S. Ira naavachyaa vyaktinni krupayaa raagaavu vagaire naye.
>
> -Shirish

Sorry...pun maajha naav short of Irawati naahi aahe. I suppose that
people with the name Irawati probably use Ira for short.

Ira

Deepak Marda

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Aug 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/27/96
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Shirish Sane wrote:
---

#include "puran.h"

extern void Mrs(void)
extern void Apabhransh(void)
extern void Short(void)

main()
{
airawat = Indrache_Vehicle();
airawati = Mrs(airawat);
irawati = Apabhransh(airawati);
ira = Short(irawati);
return()
}

P.S. Ira naavachyaa vyaktinni krupayaa raagaavu vagaire naye.

-Shirish
---

Shirish :

Good one!!

________________________________________________________Deepak.

Milind Bhandarkar

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Aug 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/28/96
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> Shirish Sane wrote:
> ---
> #include "puran.h"
>
> extern void Mrs(void)
> extern void Apabhransh(void)
> extern void Short(void)

Syntax Errors on all above three lines, ';' expected....

>
> main()
> {
> airawat = Indrache_Vehicle();
> airawati = Mrs(airawat);
> irawati = Apabhransh(airawati);
> ira = Short(irawati);
> return()

Another syntax error....
Also, main expects an integer return.....


> }
>
> P.S. Ira naavachyaa vyaktinni krupayaa raagaavu vagaire naye.
>
> -Shirish

In addition to above compiler errors, the compiler gave the following
comments:

YUCK !! Start from Hello World...


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Yashodhan Dandekar

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Aug 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/29/96
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RE: Sanyancha "Iravati" program madhlyaa syntax errors:

Bhandarkar aataa tumchyaa lakshat aale asel ki Digital evadhi
dabghailaa ka aaliy ti. Sanyanch designation "Senior Software
Developer" aahe mhaNe. Sane aata paratchyaa veLi ashyaa kalaa
dakhvaychyaa aadhi compiler vaparat chalaa.

ANi mhaNe mi IIT't shikalo, aaNi mhaNe baba maz lagn karaa :)

Sameer
Samee...@heroix.com

Shirish Sane

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On 29 Aug 1996, Yashodhan Dandekar wrote:

> RE: Sanyancha "Iravati" program madhlyaa syntax errors:
>
> Bhandarkar aataa tumchyaa lakshat aale asel ki Digital evadhi
> dabghailaa ka aaliy ti. Sanyanch designation "Senior Software
> Developer" aahe mhaNe.


adnyaan! adnyaan!! He prabhu hya ajAN baalakaalaa udaar manane kshamA kar.
Tyala aapaN kaay va kuthe lihit aahot hyaachi ajibaat kalpanaa naahiye, paN
tarihi tu hyaachyaa sarv chukaa aaplya potat ghe.


> Sane aata paratchyaa veLi ashyaa kalaa dakhvaychyaa aadhi compiler
> vaparat chalaa.

Apte, aaplyA 'system' var 'ira.c' hA program kadhich 'compile' hoNe shakya
naahiye hyaachi aamhAlAhi kalpanA Ahe. paN he dukkha vyakt karAyalA BCG aahe
nA! TumachA 'compiler' ch jar 'system' compatible nasel kaay karaNAr?

>
> ANi mhaNe mi IIT't shikalo, aaNi mhaNe baba maz lagn karaa :)

Yethe muddyAche bolalA astA tar bare zAle asate Apte (mooL muddA "Ira hya
naavaachA ugam kothe aahe" asA hotA.)

"Irawati" program muLe kaahi lokanchyaa bhavana farach bhadakaleya disat
aahet. Khudd Irene evdhe tension ghetale naahi paN Apte aaNi Bhandarkar
santapane laalbund zalele disat aahet (Apte kadachit taLapatyA 'sonya'
pramaANe piwaLe zAle asatil). TyAnchyA dukhAvalelyA bhavananvar funkar
ghalaNyasathi mii ek preetibhojanAchA program lihiNyaachaa vichAr karat aahe.

SthaL : Natick, MA chi zopadi
VeL : Shukrawar, 30 Aug 1996 7:30 p.m.

Hyaa preetibhojanachyA prasangi manDaLinni bheeD na bALagatA yethechya
ukhALyA-pAkhALyA kAdhAvyA. SCIM hyA newgroup var shakyato vaiyaktik flemA
maaru naye. Vaiyaktik flemA aamhAlAhi mAratA yetAt parantu aamhi 'sansthAnik'
asalyAmuLe SCIM var asle kaahi lihiNe aamachyA class madhye basat naahi.

-Shirish

>
> Sameer
> Samee...@heroix.com
>
>
>
>

Satish Y. Deodhar

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Aug 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/29/96
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Read the Irawati program on SCIM. Wonder if somebody could also write a
Millenia program that would let my comupter (and of others too) know
years beyond 1999!! ;-)


Sameer Savkar

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Aug 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/29/96
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In article <32232A...@idx.com>, Ira Vaidya Deshpande <deshp...@idx.com>
writes:


>
> Sorry...pun maajha naav short of Irawati naahi aahe. I suppose that
> people with the name Irawati probably use Ira for short.
>
> Ira

Is Ira a girl or boy? (a woman or man?)
Please pardon my ignorance ...

-Sameer
sam...@austin.ibm.com

Yogesh M Pathak

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Aug 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/30/96
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Satish Y. Deodhar (sde...@gaes.griffin.peachnet.edu) wrote:
: Read the Irawati program on SCIM. Wonder if somebody could also write a
: Millenia program that would let my comupter (and of others too) know
: years beyond 1999!! ;-)

This thread is very similar to the one that Cliff Stoll
quotes in the appendix of Silicon Snake Oil. I like it anyways
because Sane is in full form here. This should be archived
on some web page to be shown to Sane Jr's how their dad used to rule
a marathi corner of Usenet. Anyway, I am also surprised a DEC programmer
wrote such a clean-looking program. And also at DEC actually uses C or C++
rather than some proprietory crap. I heard Sane is working on a project
called DecWeb, where the web pages can be accessed only from a DEC computer.

yogesh

Yashodhan Dandekar

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Aug 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM8/30/96
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>Vaiyaktik flemA aamhAlAhi mAratA yetAt parantu aamhi 'sansthAnik'
>asalyAmuLe SCIM var asle kaahi lihiNe aamachyA class madhye basat naahi.

Are bappre. Sane halke halke ghyaa. Tumhi mazyaa posting madhli
smiley pahileli disat nahi, flem/flemaa vagaire aslaa kahi prakar
navhtaa to.

Sameer
Samee...@heroix.com

Sid Harth

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Sep 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/2/96
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Ira, surely, is a man's name. Ira Gershwin, one of the famous Gershwin
brothers. Say "Ira" loudly in New York and people would, literally,
throw money at you. What's Ira's partner's name?

Sid Harth...'If Ira can't cool you, nobody can.'

ann...@gmail.com

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