TRINITY - SATAN'S BIGGEST LIE
arah
The Universe or the World that is outside our little world on earth
has many unknown mysteries in it. Even in our world we have a whole
life that can not be seen by our naked eyes, and this world functions
probably as we do. The danger in interpreting things, especially
when
it comes to GOD Almighty, is that because of our natural human
weakness and unlimited desire to explore and discover the "unknown,"
we might fall into the sin and blasphemy of insulting GOD Almighty
and
associating partners (creations of His) with Him.
"They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say: "The
Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a
little that is communicated to you, (O men!)" (The Noble Quran,
17:85)"
GOD Almighty is neither a trinity, nor duality, nor plural in Islam:
"They do blaspheme who say: God is one of three in a Trinity: for
there is no god except One God. If they desist not from their word
(of
blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers
among them. (The Noble Quran, 5:73)"
"Say: He is God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He
begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.
(The Noble Quran, 112:1-4)"
"Say: 'O People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians)! Come to
common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah;
that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among
ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.' If then they turn
back, say ye: 'Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to
Allah's Will).' (The Noble Quran, 3:64)"
Ensure you visit: What is the Wisdom of Islam?
"Allah" was GOD Almighty's Original Name in the Bible according to
the
Hebrew and Aramaic sources.
1- The Role of the Holy Spirit in Islam:
There are two roles that the Holy Spirit is responsible for according
to Islam:
1- It creates our "spirits." Allah Almighty uses it to blow into
our mothers' wombs our human-spirits. That is why abortion is
prohibited in Islam, because the fetus or foetus does have spirit
(life) and it is a human being. It's not just a little piece of
unliving flesh:
"But He fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him
something of His Spirit. And He gave you (the faculties of) hearing
and sight and feeling (and understanding): little thanks do ye give!
(The Noble Quran, 32:9)"
"When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him
of My Spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him. (The Noble Quran,
38:72)"
"When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him
of My Spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him. (The Noble Quran,
15:29)"
"And (remember) her who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of
Our Spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for all peoples. (The
Noble Quran, 21:91)"
"And Mary the daughter of 'Imran, who guarded her chastity; and We
breathed into (her body) of Our Spirit; and she testified to the
truth
of the words of her Lord and of His Revelations, and was one of the
devout (servants). (The Noble Quran, 66:12)"
2- It is used to provide Divine Guidance to the Believers, those
whom
Allah Almighty Loves and Favors. It's not just the Holy Spirit that
gives Guidance. Angels too give it:
"Raised high above ranks (or degrees), (He is) the Lord of the Throne
(of Authority): by His Command doth He send the Spirit (of
inspiration) to any of His servants he pleases, that it may warn
(men)
of the Day of Mutual Meeting,- (The Noble Quran, 40:15)"
"Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the Revelation from thy Lord in
Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and
Glad Tidings to Muslims. (The Noble Quran, 16:102)"
"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in God and the Last Day,
loving those who resist God and His Apostle, even though they were
their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. For
such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with
a Spirit from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens beneath
which
Rivers flow, to dwell therein (for ever). God will be well pleased
with them, and they with Him. They are the Party of God. Truly it is
the Party of God that will achieve Felicity. (The Noble Quran,
58:22)"
"Then will God say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to
thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the Holy
Spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in
maturity. Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the
Gospel and behold! thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of
a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it and it becometh a
bird
by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My
leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And
behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee
when thou didst show them the clear Signs, and the unbelievers among
them said: 'This is nothing but evident magic.' (The Noble Quran,
5:110)"
So as you can see, Allah Almighty Created the Holy Spirit for
specific
functions not only on this earth, but also perhaps else where in the
Universe where we don't know about. But it is in no way GOD
Almighty
Himself.
2- The Role of the Holy Spirit in the Bible:
The Bible is similar to the Noble Quran regarding the role of the
Holy
Spirit. It never claimed that the Holy Spirit is GOD Almighty
Himself. In section 4 below, you will see some of the types of the
Holy Spirit, or Spirit, that GOD Almighty Created for Mankind. But
for now, let us see what the Bible says about the Holy Spirit:
"When you send your Spirit, they are created, and you renew the face
of the earth. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 104:30)"
"Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your
presence? (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 139:7)"
"Teach me to do your will, for you are my God; may your good Spirit
lead me on level ground. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 143:10)"
So far, these verses are talking about the Spirit from GOD Almighty.
The first verse above, Psalm 104:30, perfectly agrees with the Noble
Verses above about GOD Almighty Blowing His Spirit into our mothers'
wombs when we're fetus.
So does this now mean that the Holy Spirit, in the Bible, is part of
GOD Almighty?
Absolutely not! The Bible is filled with figurative speech. I've
written a detailed article proving this using many examples. The
Holy
Spirit mentioned above is a creation from GOD Almighty. It's purpose
is to create our spirits as mentioned in Psalm 104:30. Another
purpose for the Holy Spirit is to Guide the Believers:
1 Samuel 16:16 "Let our lord command his servants here to search for
someone who can play the harp. He will play when the evil spirit from
God comes upon you, and you will feel better." GOD HAS AN EVIL
SPIRIT?! Obviously not, it's only metaphoric as mentioned above.
1 Samuel 18:10 "The next day an evil spirit from God came forcefully
upon Saul. He was prophesying in his house, while David was playing
the harp, as he usually did. Saul had a spear in his hand..."
ANOTHER
EVIL SPIRIT FROM GOD?! Again, it is only metaphoric.
1 Samuel 19:9 "But an evil spirit from the LORD came upon Saul as he
was sitting in his house with his spear in his hand. While David was
playing the harp,..." ANOTHER EVIL SPIRIT FROM GOD?!
1 Kings 22:23 "God sent LYING SPIRITS to lie to people" Does GOD
lie?!
Numbers 24:2 "When Balaam looked out and saw Israel encamped tribe by
tribe, the Spirit of God came upon him"
Judges 3:10 "The Spirit of the LORD came upon him, so that he became
Israel's judge and went to war. The LORD gave Cushan-Rishathaim king
of Aram into
the hands of Othniel, who overpowered him."
Judges 6:34 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Gideon, and he
blew
a trumpet, summoning the Abiezrites to follow him."
Judges 11:29 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah. He
crossed Gilead and Manasseh, passed through Mizpah of Gilead, and
from
there he advanced against the Ammonites."
Judges 14:6 "The Spirit of the LORD came upon him in power so that he
tore the lion apart with his bare hands as he might have torn a young
goat. But he told
neither his father nor his mother what he had done."
Judges 14:19 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon him in power. He
went down to Ashkelon, struck down thirty of their men, stripped them
of their belongings and gave their clothes to those who had explained
the riddle. Burning with anger, he went up to his father's house."
Judges 15:14 "As he approached Lehi, the Philistines came toward him
shouting. The Spirit of the LORD came upon him in power. The ropes on
his arms became like charred flax, and the bindings dropped from his
hands."
1 Samuel 10:6 "The Spirit of the LORD will come upon you in power,
and
you will prophesy with them; and you will be changed into a different
person."
1 Samuel 10:10 "When they arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets
met him; the Spirit of God came upon him in power, and he joined in
their prophesying."
1 Samuel 11:6 "When Saul heard their words, the Spirit of God came
upon him in power, and he burned with anger."
1 Samuel 16:13 "So Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in
the
presence of his brothers, and from that day on the Spirit of the LORD
came upon David in power. Samuel then went to Ramah."
Luke 1:35 "The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you
(Mary), and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the
holy one to be born will be called the Son of God."
Luke 2:25 "Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was
righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel,
and the Holy Spirit was upon him."
There are, as mentioned, several types of this Spirit as mentioned
in
section 4 below.
So if Jesus is GOD because the Holy Spirit came upon him, then the
others mentioned above should also be GOD Almighty too.
3- The Holy Spirit is a Creation of GOD Almighty and it is under Him
just like the Angels according to the Noble Quran:
Allah Almighty Said:
"The Day that the Spirit and the Angels will stand forth in ranks,
none shall speak except any who is permitted by (God) Most Gracious,
and He will say what is right. (The Noble Quran, 78:38)"
"A questioner asked about a Penalty to befall- The Unbelievers, the
which there is none to ward off,- (A Penalty) from God, Lord of the
Ways of Ascent. The Angels and the Spirit ascend unto Him in a Day
the
measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years: Therefore do thou hold
Patience,- a Patience of beautiful (contentment). (The Noble Quran,
70:1-5)"
"Therein come down the Angels and the Spirit by God's permission, on
every errand: (The Noble Quran, 97:4)"
"Not one of the beings in the heavens and the earth but must come to
God) Most Gracious as a servant. He does take an account of them
(all), and hath numbered them (all) exactly. And everyone of them
will
come to Him singly on the Day of Judgment. On those who believe and
work deeds of righteousness, will (God) Most Gracious bestow love.
(The Noble Quran, 19:93-96)"
These Noble Verse are the Ultimate knock out to the polytheist
trinitarian pagans who are trying, through their absurd writings, to
prove that the Holy Spirit in the Noble Quran is the other part of
Allah Almighty; that he is at least a dual GOD if not a triune one.
As you clearly see from these Noble Verses and the ones above in the
beginning of the article, trinity and plurality of GOD Almighty is
blasphemy! So dear Muslim brothers and sisters, please be cautious
from these satanic deceivers and their new tricks and desperate false
interpretations of the Noble Quran.
4- Why can't we call it GOD as trinitarians do?
First of all, it is important to know that satan's biggest lie,
trinity, is only an interpretation and a conclusion. There is not a
single text in the Bible that says the Holy Spirit is GOD Almighty,
nor does that satanic word, trinity, even exist in the Bible. People
during Constantine's days around year 325, because they were and
still
are naturally inclined to idol worship, polytheism and paganism as
the
Far Eastern religions are today, they decided to consider Jesus and
the Holy Spirit as GOD Almighty. Satan's deception and evil is
overwhelming and powerful. It is no surprise that people fell for
this lie by the billions throughout history, as many more billions
had
fell for satan's lies in the Far Eastern pagan religions. Trinity,
like I said, doesn't even exist in the bible. The word doesn't exist
anywhere in the book, nor do we have any text that says Jesus is the
Creator of the Universe. The same also goes for the Holy Spirit.
The reason why Muslims don't call the Holy Spirit as GOD Almighty is
because it is just a creation of GOD Almighty with specific and
limited duties as I clearly demonstrated above from the Noble Quran.
Like the Angels and the other Universal Spirits, the Holy Spirit is
unknown to us and we can't fully describe it. But nonetheless, this
doesn't give anyone the right to start getting colorful and smart and
deceive the weak-minded and call it and other creations as GOD
Almighty.
It's best if you read it and see the Truth for yourself.
Also, it seems clear that the Bible has several types of Universal
Spirits, or Holy Spirits. For instance, we see a prediction about
the
"Spirit of Fearing GOD" being installed in the coming Prophet, Jesus:
Isaiah 11:1-3
1. A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a
Branch will bear fruit.
2. The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him (Jesus)-- the Spirit of
wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the
Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD (Jesus fearing his
GOD)--
3. and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by
what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears;
As we see in Isaiah 11:1-3, there is:
1- Spirit of Wisdom and Understanding.
2- Spirit of Counsel and of power.
3- Spirit of Knowledge.
4- Spirit of the fear of the LORD.
Also, the verses above say "and he will delight in the fear of the
LORD", which clearly proves that Jesus is under GOD Almighty and can
not be equivalent to Him or part of Him, because GOD Almighty has no
fear in Him. He Created fear, or the Spirit of Fear, and He installs
it on whom ever He pleases. But He Himself doesn't have that Spirit
in Him!
The verses above also say "He will not judge by what he sees with his
eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears;...", which further
proves that Jesus is not part of GOD Almighty, because GOD Almighty
Speaks and Hears whatever He Pleases!
The Bible's New Testament also records Jesus saying: ""Why do you
call
me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good-except God alone." (From
the NIV Bible, Mark 10:18)"
If Jesus doesn't consider himself as "good", then how can any sane
person put him on the same level as GOD Almighty?
I have yet to see a good answer to this one by any polytheist
trinitarian.
Also, another important point to notice in Mark 10:18 is the word
"alone": ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is
good-
except God alone." (From the NIV Bible, Mark 10:18)"
Jesus in this verse is clearly giving exclusivity to GOD Almighty
when
he said "alone". If Jesus was truly part of GOD Almighty and/or the
trinity lie was true, then Jesus, to say the least, would not have
said that.
Jesus said he was not good. He can't possibly say I am your Creator
and by the way I am not good. The question itself shows the complete
ignorance about what's written in the bible and reveals the total
blasphemy and darkness that polytheist trinitarian pagans are living
in.
Jesus is not GOD! The GOD Almighty of the Old Testament BOASTS about
Himself! He countlessly reminds the Jews about Worshiping Him and
only Him because He is the "One who took them out of Egypt", and He's
the "One who Saved them from Pharaoh", etc... Not only that, but He
also Punishes to death anyone who profanes His Holy and Blessed Name.
Jesus can not be this Holy and Mighty and Arrogant and Absolute GOD
Almighty when he, for instance, escaped to Egypt for his life from
King Herod! The GOD Almighty's Divine Characteristics in the Old
Testament can not in anyway fit Jesus who is not "good" and who runs
for his life from a creation of GOD Almighty.
For more information, please visit: Jesus had no Divine Will
according
to the New Testament. How could he be our Creator?
I have ample detailed refutations to the lie of trinity on my site.
You can further see them to clearly understand that GOD Almighty is
an
Absolute One and only One and not a unity or trinity as satan claims.
Also visit:
The early Christians rejected Trinity. Early Christians had major
problems and disagreements about who truly Jesus was and whether or
not he got crucified or not.
Extract from
www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm
The Cynic
"arah" <arah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> What is the role of the Holy Spirit ? Why can't we call it GOD?
>
>
> The Universe or the World that is outside our little world on earth
> has many unknown mysteries in it. Even in our world we have a whole
> life that can not be seen by our naked eyes, and this world functions
> probably as we do.
Heheheeee.. You must be on subutex, cocaine, LSD, XO, samsu or lalangtani.
Drink some lemon juice and go to bed. That is the cure for hallucination.
the Cunt of Saint Mary of Nazareth
in about 400 AD ,
when emperor Constantine summoned a meeting to discuss the
difference between
the Christians in the East of Levant and the Christians in Rome .
Then some stupid Roman Christian invented the word Trinity in
order
to expell the Arian Chritians in the east of the Med Sea,
so that the Roman Christians could take over the Christian
ideology .
Arian Christian ideology insisted that there was no Trinity ,
and that Trinity was lately invention by the Romans as a
concept which was totally false.
Arian Christians believed that there were 3 separate totally
different Gods,
God the Father,
God the Son ,
and God the Holy fucking Ghost .
But the Romans feared the truth of the Christian religion , which was
a poly-theist religion ,
so the Roman Christians invented the Trinity in order to fool the
people into believing that Christian was
a mono-theist religion .
in Fact ,
Christian was a poly-theist religion .
Many Goths , Germans , Swabians , Burgundians , Vandals ,
Lombards , believed in the Arian Christian faith , which was the
original faith of the Christian religion .
roger_...@yahoo.co.uk
<veak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> there was no such thing as the Trinity before the Council of Nicea
> in about 400 AD , when emperor Constantine summoned a meeting to
> discuss the difference between
> the Christians in the East of Levant and the Christians in Rome .
>
> Then some stupid Roman Christian invented the word Trinity in
> order to expell the Arian Chritians in the east of the Med Sea,
> so that the Roman Christians could take over the Christian
> ideology .
>
(Endless nonsense snipped)
Any net search will reveal that all of this is nonsense.
All the best,
Roger Pearse
pls_e...@yahoo.com
If you, Muslims, want to quote the Quran, you must first verify the
Quran as the Holy Book of the True Allah by verifying the sayings of
its prophet, Mohammed as follows:
1] The sayings of Mohammed could not be verified because Mohammed did
not have the 4 eye-witnesses to substantiate his sayings as true as
required by sura 24:13.
2] The sayings of Mohammed could not be verified because in Islam,
there is the edict of Mohammed known as Taqiya which is lying allowed
in Islam for its believers - the Muslims to non-Muslims when
propagating Islam. How true is Islam then, when lying is allowed when
propagating Islam?
3] Mohammed claimed to be an Arab being the descendant of the Quaish
tribe and a Hebrew being the descendant of Ishmael whose name
"Ishmael" is a Hebrew word which means "God will hear". One will
wonder how one could have 2 biogiocally fathers to enable one to be an
Arab as well as a Hebrew!
Mohammed could not even be an Arab because the Father of all Arabs is
Qahtan in Arabic and Joktan in English, and had 13 sons giving rise to
13 Arabic tribes: and none of the 13 Arabic tribes is named Quaish.
Mohammed could not even be a Hebrew because the Father of all Hebrews
is Abraham and all its descendants (Hebrews) have Hebrew names, and
Mohammed is not an Hebrew name.
Moreover, the Quran cannot even prove that Mohammed was an Arab or a
Hebrew because the Quran does not contain a genealogy.
4) Mohammed claimed that Allah is one, but if Allah is singular, how
come the Quran quotes Allah using the plural pronoun " WE " whenever
Allah speaks?
5) And more I will post it when asked for.
As for Trinity, it means the Family of God of 3 in the person of the
God Father, God the Son-Jesus and God the Holy Spirit. Isaiah 48: 12
to 16 clearly show the Trinity of God; and the Quran clearly indicates
Trinity by the fact that whenever Allah speaks, he uses the plural
pronoun " WE ".
Amen.
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lies and slanders used by you,would have repented long ago.
You must be terribly evil for refusing to acknowledge your lies.
"arah" <arah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Sylvia Knörr
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> > What is the role of the Holy Spirit ? Why can't we call it GOD?
> >
> > The Universe or the World that is outside our little world on earth
> > has many unknown mysteries in it. Even in our world we have a whole
> > life that can not be seen by our naked eyes, and this world functions
> > probably as we do.
> Heheheeee.. You must be on subutex, cocaine, LSD, XO, samsu or
lalangtani.
Can somebody please tell me what kind of drugs are subutex, XO, samsu and
lalangtani?
Mohammed the Holy Nabi
like a Royalty ,
which also used the " we " form when a King spoke in the past .
Alex
the Quran, you don't know the differences and similarities.
Each individual group tries to outsmart argue the others the
cdforrectness of their religion. This is stupid.
The 3 books, Torah, Gospel and Quran are 3 books from the religion of
Abraham. So you have to read them all.
Arguing on each one is useless. Try to know the similarities of the 3
books. This is where the TRUTH lies.
Your spiritual soul is only your God. All other Gods are other
spiritual souls. They cannot help you. Only your own spiritual soul
can help you.
I use most scriptures to preach no religion.
See http://members.lycos.co.uk/alexkew/comment/gospel.html ,
see http://members.lycos.co.uk/alexkew/sub1/obible.html ,
see http://www.geocities.com/alex_kew/buddhistsutra.html ,
see http://www.geocities.com/alex_kew/hinduism.html ,
see http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/chinese/taoteching.html ,
see http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/chinese/daxue.html ,
see http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/chinese/zhongyong.html ,
see http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/chinese/i_ching.html ,
see http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/chinese/chuangtzu01.html ,
see http://uk.geocities.com/alex_kew/chquran/chinesequran.htm ,
etc etc.
I preach that your spiritual soul, or the One inside you, is your God
or Allah or Buddha, Tao
etc etc.
The Mark at your nose bridge is the site of Your God or Buddha etc.
It has to be SEALED so you can return back to the origin.
The world is a stage, we are only actors. We are like water droplets
that can disappear into the ocean.
Cultivate self by meditation. See http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/chinese/meditate.html
or http://uk.geocities.com/alex_kew/comment/taoistyoga.html .
This is the way to enlarge your wisdom.
See http://www.geocities.com/alex_kew/hebrew9.html ,
see http://uk.geocities.com/alex_kew/chquran/surah48.htm .
On Mar 28, 9:03 am, "Mohammed the Holy Nabi" <Moonyon...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > Amen.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
arah
I have reply to you many of your confusion earlier. However, I will
reply again now.
On Mar 28, 1:59 am, pls_expl...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Dear Muslims,
> If you, Muslims, want to quote the Quran, you must first verify the
> Quran as the Holy Book of the True Allah by verifying the sayings of
> its prophet, Mohammed as follows:
>
> 1] The sayings of Mohammed could not be verified because Mohammed did
> not have the 4 eye-witnesses to substantiate his sayings as true as
> required by sura 24:13.
>
Muhammad have hundreds of followers during his time and now almost 2
billion today.
The 4 eye witness are required if the rulers or goverment want to
undertake capital punishment ie rape, illegal sex,ect. It is unfair in
the Syariah law to punish someone without four witness.
> 2] The sayings of Mohammed could not be verified because in Islam,
> there is the edict of Mohammed known as Taqiya which is lying allowed
> in Islam for its believers - the Muslims to non-Muslims when
> propagating Islam. How true is Islam then, when lying is allowed when
> propagating Islam?
A Muslim cannot lying but what is taqiya? If a robber or a killer
asking you for the address of someone will you tell him the address?
Are you stupid to tell the truth to someone who will cause damage to
others?
>
> 3] Mohammed claimed to be an Arab being the descendant of the Quaish
> tribe and a Hebrew being the descendant of Ishmael whose name
> "Ishmael" is a Hebrew word which means "God will hear". One will
> wonder how one could have 2 biogiocally fathers to enable one to be an
> Arab as well as a Hebrew!
Please read the translation Quran, Abraham is not a Jews. Who is a
Jews?
> Mohammed could not even be an Arab because the Father of all Arabs is
> Qahtan in Arabic and Joktan in English, and had 13 sons giving rise to
> 13 Arabic tribes: and none of the 13 Arabic tribes is named Quaish.
> Mohammed could not even be a Hebrew because the Father of all Hebrews
> is Abraham and all its descendants (Hebrews) have Hebrew names, and
> Mohammed is not an Hebrew name.
> Moreover, the Quran cannot even prove that Mohammed was an Arab or a
> Hebrew because the Quran does not contain a genealogy.
History is clearly mention in the Quran, so please read again the
translation of Quran. If you have any problem of what written in the
Quran, I will to help
>
> 4) Mohammed claimed that Allah is one, but if Allah is singular, how
> come the Quran quotes Allah using the plural pronoun " WE " whenever
> Allah speaks?
What you read is the translation of the Quran, Isn't it more polite to
used we instate of I. We does not neccesary be more than one. Ask your
English teacher.
>
> 5) And more I will post it when asked for.
>
> As for Trinity, it means the Family of God of 3 in the person of the
> God Father, God the Son-Jesus and God the Holy Spirit. Isaiah 48: 12
> to 16 clearly show the Trinity of God; and the Quran clearly indicates
> Trinity by the fact that whenever Allah speaks, he uses the plural
> pronoun " WE ".
You should read and understand the article, trinity is by Satan not by
God. Have you read Matthew?
Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
6Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
7Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
9Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called sons of God.
10Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be
glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you.
So how many sons that God have? All the peacemakers are sons of God.
Oh God please show us the truth and save us from the hellfire.
AMEN
>
> Amen.
Peace_Cruzader
> Allah uses the plural form when Allah speaks because Allah is
> like a Royalty ,
> which also used the " we " form when a King spoke in the past .
I agree, sir! Allah (PissBUHer) is the biggest Royal Pain In The Ass of
all time.
2004TL.NBP
wrote:
So, God has a family, eh? Hmm...
Isaiah 48:12-16? Here's it is from MKJV:
12 Listen to me, O Jacob and Israel, My called; I am He; I am the
first, I also am the last.
13 My hand also has laid the foundation of the earth, and My right
hand has stretched out the heavens. I called; they stood up together.
14 Let all of you gather and hear; who among them has declared these
things ? The LORD has loved him; He will do His pleasure on Babylon,
and His arm shall be on the Chaldeans.
15 I, I, have spoken; yea, I have called him; I brought him and he
makes his way succeed.
16 Come near to Me, hear this; I have not spoken in secret from the
beginning. From its being, I was there; and now the Lord Jehovah, and
His Spirit, has sent Me.
So, where is the trinity here?
Where did you get that idea of the "we"? When God or Allah speaks of
"we", he is referring to himself and the angels and cherubs he was
talking to.
Cheers!
Victal
> What is the role of the Holy Spirit ? Why can't we call it GOD?
We been create in God own image so we can understand God by understanding
who we are...
The question is what can we understand of the humain being? As a matter of
fact we can understand a lot and specialy one
Everything defining our spirit define the same way who we are
That is why we can say: Our spirit is ourself the same way Holy Spirit is
God itself
Why can we compare our both spirit ?
Because of Genesis
1.26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let
them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air,
and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing
that creepeth upon the earth.
1.27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he
him; male and female created he them.
--
Les années ne se comptent pas dans le coeur humain même si le temps
l'use
«Extrait de Sous-Bois d'A.G.
The Cynic
"Victal" <vict...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> arah wrote:
>> What is the role of the Holy Spirit ? Why can't we call it GOD?
>
>
> We been create in God own image so we can understand God by
> understanding who we are...
>
yellow, brown, black and coffee colored people in the world, makes right
thinking people to assume that your god must have been painting himself in
many colours wheh he created the human race.
Also, since you all claim your god made us in your image, does it mean that
he also defecates?
The Cynic
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>
> Oh God please show us the truth and save us from the hellfire.
Now isn't the hellfire thingy a total lie. Can you prove hellfire exists?
Or else SHADDUP and packup.
Victal
It been said :
« Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:»
so humain being ressemble to God the same way a child will look like his
parent without being an exact replica of them.
The différent between people ( hair skin eyes ) have nothing to do with what
define an humain being., It is just physical caractéristics that define any
individual.
Whatever an individual have blond, brown ou red hair or blue grey or green
eyes, he is an human being if he have inside him the capability of
expressing the caracteristics of an human being.
Those caracteristics are well known
Intelligence, language, spirituality, conscience, imagination, love, hope
....
The Cynic
> The Cynic wrote:
>> "Victal" <vict...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:460ada41$0$32231$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com...
>>> arah wrote:
>>>> What is the role of the Holy Spirit ? Why can't we call it GOD?
>>>
>>>
>>> We been create in God own image so we can understand God by
>>> understanding who we are...
>>>
>> Is your god a chameleon? This question arises because the presence of
>> white, yellow, brown, black and coffee colored people in the world,
>> makes right thinking people to assume that your god must have been
>> painting himself in many colours wheh he created the human race.
>> Also, since you all claim your god made us in your image, does it
>> mean that he also defecates?
>
> It been said :
>
> « Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:»
>
> so humain being ressemble to God the same way a child will look like his
> parent without being an exact replica of them.
Why "let us" and "our" likeness? Why is it in the plural and not singular?
Many gods? LOL
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Victal
> "Victal" <vict...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:46100f21$0$614$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com...
>> The Cynic wrote:
>>> "Victal" <vict...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:460ada41$0$32231$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com...
>>>> arah wrote:
>>>>> What is the role of the Holy Spirit ? Why can't we call it GOD?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We been create in God own image so we can understand God by
>>>> understanding who we are...
>>>>
>>> Is your god a chameleon? This question arises because the presence
>>> of white, yellow, brown, black and coffee colored people in the
>>> world, makes right thinking people to assume that your god must
>>> have been painting himself in many colours wheh he created the
>>> human race. Also, since you all claim your god made us in your
>>> image, does it mean that he also defecates?
>>
>> It been said :
>>
>> « Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:»
>>
>> so humain being ressemble to God the same way a child will look like
>> his parent without being an exact replica of them.
>
> Why "let us" and "our" likeness? Why is it in the plural and not
> singular? Many gods? LOL
no just one
but three différents way to reveal hinself
Life, Spirit, and Word