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How much is "Tipperary station" worth ?, Tipperary Group of five properties in the Northern Territory Daly River region,

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Nov 23, 2008, 2:52:53 PM11/23/08
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OK its nice trophy property but whats it real potential worth from an
agricultural point , the trophy hunters have all gone broke ,
.
now its back to real business end of rural land

How many cattle and what are the "real" running costs per head turned
off ,

What is the "real" profit per head and how many head have "really"
been sold over last 20 years off the land as distinct from sales
bought in to fatten or boost numbers
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Kidman
Eventually he became the world's largest private landowner holding
more land than the total area area of England, Ireland, Scotland and
Wales.
http://www.southaustralianhistory.com.au/kidman.htm
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Its REAL value is going to be eventually boil down to, how much profit
can it yield, net , after costs .
,
once all the "cowboys" have blown their money on "trophy property"
zoo animals , day dreams , and come back to the " real" world and
real production figures , not using " Enron Accounting " potential
profits ,but REAL profits after ALL costs
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late 1960’s broadscale clearing of 30,000 hectares took
place at Tipperary Station for sorghum production. As with many other
tropical agriculture initiatives cropping was later abandoned at
Tipperary.
.
In the early 90’s the NT Government developed the ‘Katherine-Daly
Farm Development’ plan , which outlined the NT Government’s intention
to subdivide 3 pastoral leases- Jindare, Douglas and Claravale- to
develop 440,000 hectares of mixed farms.
The Katherine-Daly Farm Development plan has faltered mainly due to a
lack of investor interest,at the prices asked
.

Tipperary Station, NT, on the market
18/10/2008
The Northern Territory Government's moratorium on land clearing is
reportedly behind the decision to put the famous Tipperary Station, in
the Douglas Daly region, on the market.

Sources in the region have told FarmOnline that frustrations with the
stalled vegetation law reform process, in which farmers have been
banned from clearing land in the largely undeveloped region, was
behind the decision to offer the property.

Tipperary is owned by one of Australia's richest barresters and noted
Victorian wool producer, Allan Myers QC.reportedly paid 50 million a
few years ago ,2005?????

Melbourne-based QC Allan Myers is understood to have bought the
property for $50 million five years ago.

The market price has quadrupled and it is now for sale asking $200
million.
.

$72.5m NT property deal the biggest of the year
15/10/2008 12:40:00 PM
In Australia's biggest rural property transaction this year, cattleman
Peter Camm is selling La Belle Downs and Welltree Station in the
Northern Territory for $72.5 million to a private domestic investor
with overseas backing, according to the Australian Financial Review.

The Fairfax paper is today reporting that Sydney-based Primary
Holdings International is believed to be in negotiations to buy the
two adjoining properties.

Neither Primary Holdings nor Mr Camm would not comment on the
negotiations, but Mr Camm told AFR the 100,000-hectare La Belle,
located on the coast 100km from Darwin, was an ideal stepping stone
for the live cattle export market.

"La Belle is the only place in NT that can actually fatten cattle at
this time of year," he said.
.
Big property dollars head north
13/10/2008 5:46:00 PM
Queensland rural property had the most successful winter out of all
the States, with $226 million worth of sales above $5m, according to
the Australian Financial Review.

It reports that statistics from RP Data show that between May and
August more than $436m was spent throughout Australia on properties
bigger than 40 hectares and worth more than $5m.
.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_station
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Creek_station
Anna Creek Station is the world's largest working cattle station[1].
It is located in South Australia, Australia. Its area is roughly 24
000 km² (6 000 000 acres) which is bigger than Israel. It is 8 000 km²
larger than Alexandria Station (its nearest rival) in the Northern
Territory, Australia and four times the size of America's biggest
ranch, which is only 6 000 km². [2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Kidman
Eventually he became the world's largest private landowner holding
more land than the total area area of England, Ireland, Scotland and
Wales.
http://www.southaustralianhistory.com.au/kidman.htm
.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Agricultural_Company

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ANNE KRUGER, PRESENTER: The property market may be in the doldrums in
Australia's big cities, but in the bush it's a whole different ball
game. And across the Northern Territory there's a virtual land grab
for Top End cattle stations.
http://www.abc.net.au/landline/content/2008/s2426096.htm
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By far the largest is the Tipperary Group of five properties in the
Daly River region, south-west of Darwin. The iconic holding is located
in the midst of an environmentally important area, where land clearing
and development has been put on hold by the Territory Government until
2010.
.
But the sale of Tipperary has reignited debate over how this vast
tract of land should be managed not just for farming, but for all
Australians. Adrienne Francis reports.


ADRIENNE FRANCIS, REPORTER: It's a far cry from the Fields of France
where the marching English expeditionary force first sang the famous
World War I song. Tipperary was carved out of the scrub by pioneering
pastoralists the Burn brothers. It's thought they named the station in
the early 1900s to evoke memories of their homeland in south-west
Ireland. Almost a century on, the journey is still an adventure. 30km
of red dirt and corrugations when you leave the bitumen.

ADRIENNE FRANCIS: But life around here is about to change. The
Tipperary Group of five properties is up for sale. AGAIN

JOHN SHORE, LANDMARK: It's not a for sale, it's just an investment
that our vendor has put in place, and they are capitalising on the
situation in the world at the moment with the dollar the way it is,
and they are realising their capital on the property.

DAVID WARRINER, TIPPERARY GROUP: Well, Tipperary is definitely a very,
very unique property. It's big, it's got a lot - it's got a high
rainfall. You know, it's been quoted as being big and mean, you know,
we've got a lot of scrub country, we've got a lot of water.
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It's not as if it's easy to muster, it's not easy to farm, it's not
easy to do anything. It takes a lot of effort and a lot of skill.

ADRIENNE FRANCIS: David Warriner is the Group Manager of Tipperary,
and he's been given the job of showing off the property to the agents
who will be selling its appeal to potential buyers.
.
It's a vast area. 9,000 square kilometres from coastal floodplains
and rainforest to open grazing country.

DAVID WARRINER: We've got double frontage to the Daily river. It's one
of the only rivers that, flow in Australia all year. And I think, you
know, I've heard it quoted the Daly River is still about 99 per cent
pristine, so it hasn't been affected by agriculture or cattle
operations to any extent. And I think it's - you know, there in itself
is a potential asset for Tipperary, is, we are in still a very
pristine environment even considering the developments that have
happened in the past.

ADRIENNE FRANCIS: That pristine environment has also tweaked the
interest of conservationists.

DR STUART BLANCH, WORLDWIDE FUND FOR NATURE: Tipperary is a million
hectares of some of the best conservation and grazing country in
Australia. It occupies most of the bottom part of the Daly River
catchment, which is one of our best rivers in Australia. It's been the
focus for agriculture for maybe 100-150 years, and there's been a lot
of land clearing there in the past. Now the focus is on how to manage
that land clearing so it won't have much impact on biodiversity.

ADRIENNE FRANCIS: Tipperary Station has had a colourful and varied
past. It's perhaps best known for its wildlife sanctuary created by
Western Australian businessmen Warren Anderson. He invested 8 million
setting up a zoo with 28 animal species, including giraffe, pygmy
hippos, zebra, orox and tapier and two endangered white rhinos. He
also amassed 65 bird species, including this spectacular Macau.

ROSEMARY SULLIVAN: Well, it's just been one of those places in which
everything was happening on a far greater scale here than at anywhere
else. And people seemed to come in and spend significant amounts of
money and be really quite out there in terms of farming in the
territory.

ADRIENNE FRANCIS: In 2003, Warren Anderson was accused of neglecting
over 2,000 of these animals. Anderson vigorously denied the
accusations and police charges against him were later dropped. The
Territory Government apologised unreservedly.
.
By then the station was owned by Melbourne barrister, philanthropist
and wool grower Alan Myers QC, who forked out around $50 million for
the Tipperary Group in 2003. Late last year, a bitter business
partnership and investor dispute led Alan Myers to appoint David
Warriner as the new group manager of Tipperary, and refocus the
property as a commercial cattle operation. The Warriner family is part
of the fabric of the North Australian pastoral industry. David's
father Ken manages the Packers consolidated pastoral empire with his
brother Jeff.

DAVID WARRINER: I've always looked at Tipperary and thought that would
be a good one to get hold of because it's got such a checkered past. I
think, basically, the problem of Tipperary in the past I mean, that's
changed over the last few years, is the focus is not been on a cattle
operation at all.

ADRIENNE FRANCIS: But his vision to turn around Tipperary has been
interrupted by the sale and debate over how much of the fertile Daly
River region, and this pastoral group, should be developed for
farming. It's estimated 400,000 hectares of Tipperary was cleared for
cattle grazing in the 1980s.

DAVID WARRINER: 25 years ago, enormous areas were pulled, and enormous
areas have been reclaimed, and we've got no intention of going
anywhere near what they did then.

ADRIENNE FRANCIS: In 2003, concerns over land clearing in the Daly
River catchment sparked such debate, the Northern Territory Government
froze development by introducing a moratorium. How significant though
has the challenge been for you with with this moratorium in this
region?

DAVID WARRINER: The regrowth is an issue, but at the end of the day
the moratorium was agreed to by industry a little while ago, and it
was continued by the current Government. I mean, commonsense will
prevail at the end of the day over politics. We aren't very worried, I
am not worried about the moratorium. I think we'll be allowed to
maintain our developed areas at the end of the day. We don't want to
do any sort of broadacre clearing, we don't want to pull any remnant
vegetation down.

ADRIENNE FRANCIS: In May, the Territory Government upgraded the Daly
moratorium to a Interim Development Control Order, which prevents
rural subdivision and clearing native vegetation. It's due to expire
in March 2010, but pastoralists are confident it will be lifted before
this Christmas. What makes you so confident, David?

DAVID WARRINER: Because common sense will prevail. If you don't fix
it, we are all in trouble.

ADRIENNE FRANCIS: This wet season's vigorous regrowth of the
vegetation on Tipperary, makes parts of the station resemble a tree
farm. Tipperary is being investigated by the Northern Territory
Government for allegedly breaching the ban by clearing 2,000 hectares.
David Warriner says it was all regrowth. The station is being
investigated for tree clearing?

DAVID WARRINER: Well, the media reported that. But, you know, that's
what happens.

ADRIENNE FRANCIS: Is that the kind of -

DAVID WARRINER: We were knocking suckers over, we weren't touching
vegetation. Native vegetation, I mean.

ADRIENNE FRANCIS: But conservationists aren't convinced.

DR STUART BLANCH: They've done that to take the Government on, and
they are trying to make more money out of cattle, but thumbing their
nose at the Government, and they are a smaller landowners next door to
Tipperary, who are not able to clear, and do not have the funds to
take the Government to court and to potentially pay funds if they do
get pinged, so Tipperary have taken the Government on, and now the
Government needs to respond.

ADRIENNE FRANCIS: But for now, the Territory Environment Minister,
Alison Anderson, won't comment on the investigation, except to say
it's at a sensitive point. In the longer term, conservationists want
parts of the station declared a wildlife sanctuary.

DR STUART BLANCH: Look, I think there's been discussions about a lot
of Tipperary's lands being managed under covenants, which a good
thing, and we want to maintain that momentum with the future owners.
And I think we should be looking at over half a million hectares of
the Tipperary Group of stations being managed under covenants in the
future.
.
A lot of that land is not good for grazing, it's not productive, you
lose a lot of cattle in it, it makes economic sense for the
pastoralist to not be grazing it or grazing it very lightly.

ADRIENNE FRANCIS: Pastoralists say they are already managing for
conservation, the station spends up to $1 million every year
controlling the invasive weed mimosa pigra across 20,000 hectares of
the Daly River flood plain.

DAVID WARRINER: We have got huge mimosa problems here. Tipperary spent
enormous amount of money on Mimosa in the past.
.
We need to continue that, we need the Government to understand that
we have these problems. I think they sort of think it's not a problem
sometimes, but it's a real problem.
.
Weeds are not only mimosa, we have Bellyache Bush, we got different
weeds, that we are funding the programs ourselves, keeping on top of
it.

ADRIENNE FRANCIS: David Warriner's dream for the future at Tipperary
is focused on these yards in the picturesque Honeymoon Hills. They can
hold 10,000 cattle destined for the live cattle trade to south-east
Asia.

DAVID WARRINER: Most of the Tipperary weaners come into here. There's
15,000 to 20,000 of those a year. They come here, get a bit of
feeding, all the handling, We've got a crew here that look after them,
educate them, then they go out on to improved pastures. It also
facilitates backgrounding before we sell cattle. We feed them for 30,
40, 50 days, thereabouts, sometimes more, and they get themselves into
an order where they better fit the market specs.

ADRIENNE FRANCIS: The yards reduce the need to develop land for
grazing, and are designed to allow cattle to be loaded direct for live
export from the Port of Darwin, boosting the holding share of the live
trade.

RICHARD NORTON, LANDMARK: Off Tipperary, you have the "potential" to
export from 30,000 to 40,000 cattle a year, and within that it's a
significant part of the market, the whole market is 760,000 cattle. It
grew by 15 per cent last year, people are saying it's going to
continue to grow each year. And it's been interesting, in the last 12
months there was a 15 per cent increase, as I said, on the back of the
dollar, the Australian dollar, being between 85 and 92 or 93 cents and
that demand was still strong. Crude oil prices high, your shipping
costs increased, so it's a very strong viable industry. I think even
with the current global crisis, financial crisis, I think our demand
from importers out of Asia, China, Indonesia, south-east Asia is still
very strong.

ADRIENNE FRANCIS: Much of the meal for these cattle is being grown on
Tipperary. Just like wartime munitions, 80,000 tons of feed is being
stockpiled in the Honeymoon Hills. Most of the fattening ration is
silage, made from cut and crushed wet sorghum. It's mixed with this
potent silage made from cut and crushed dry corn. The protein rich
meal is adding at least a kilo a day to these steers. The Honeymoon
yards are also allowing the station to boost smaller weaners, who make
through the poddy calf nursery, and like everything associated with
Tipperary, it's on a grand scale too. Milk bottles are made up within
the kitchens of a vast indoor horse sports arena.

LUANNE RICHARDSON, TIPPERPARY STATION: I started here about three
years ago. There wasn't a poddy calf program at the time. No one
really had time to do it. We started with about seven calves, and
we've probably done over 1,000 in the three years, varying amounts on
bottles, some just on pellets and a bit of extra TLC. At the moment we
have about 30 on milk, and another 60 on pellets, and extra hay and
extra additives.

ADRIENNE FRANCIS: And there's no chance these 90 hungry poddy calves
will ever escape their pens. These enclosures were once home to the
zebra and rhinos which farmed part of Warren Anderson's exotic animal
collection. It's a labour of love and this nursery cuts a year off
time in the paddock.

LUANNE RICHARDSON: It has to be extremely valuable especially up here
in the territory, where it is hard work for calves to survive, it's
rough country. And I think every calf that you get on the ground is
worth looking after.

ADRIENNE FRANCIS: It's early days for the nursery, and vast cattle
yards, but employees hope the venture will continue, despite the sale
of the property. They are waiting anxiously to see who the buyer will
be.

LUANNE RICHARDSON: You can't help but feel a bit nervous, what's going
to happen? Is all this, everything we've, sort of, worked for is it
going to be, sort of, continuing on?

ROSEMARY SULLIVAN: I feel very confident that the station will just
move on to a new phase in its development. You know, whoever buys it
is going be a person with deep pockets, and they are going to have
some kind of plan for the future of the property.

DAVID WARRINER: I love the Top End. It's a difficult environment, it
takes a certain type of character with a certain type of experience to
do well up here. You just got to go with your gut feeling most of the
time in these sort of operations, and, you know, there's no book that
you can buy on how to run a cattle operation in the north. We've
started a program here and we believe, you know, that we can improve
the viability of it. And we'd like to continue it.
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DALY BASIN DEVELOPMENT
Daly river under threat
History
Since the introduction of 20,000 acres of sugarcane in 1879, the Daly
Basin has been targetted for agricultural development. This venture
was abandoned shortly afterwards and since then pastoralism has been
the area’s main agricultural activity. However, in recent years there
has been a push for mixed farming involving the establishment of
irrigated and rainfed crops, some pastoralism and horticulture
throughout the region. In the late 1960’s broadscale clearing of
30,000 hectares took
place at Tipperary Station for sorghum production. As with many other
tropical agriculture initiatives cropping was later abandoned at
Tipperary.
In the early 90’s the NT Government developed the ‘Katherine-Daly
Farm Development’ plan which outlined the NT Government’s intention
to subdivide 3 pastoral leases- Jindare, Douglas and Claravale- to
develop 440,000 hectares of mixed farms.
The Katherine-Daly Farm Development plan has faltered mainly due to a
lack of investor interest,
though the NT Government cites Native Title issues as the reason for
stalled development.
Currently agricultural production in the Daly Basin covers about
80,000 ha of improved pastures,
sorghum, maize and millet. Approximately 195,000 ha has been cleared
in the Daly bioregion
(nearly 10% of the bioregion where the total area is 2 million ha).
Aerial photograph of unregulated clearing at Tipperary Station, NT.
Photo: ECNT
Recent Developments
The current Northern Territory Government remains committed to the
Katherine-Daly Farm
Development. To date the focus of government attention has been on the
subdivision of the Stray
Creek blocks and Douglas Station.
Stray Creek
In 2000 and 2001 the Northern Territory Government initiated the first
stage of the 'Katherine-Daly
Farm Development' subdividing 26,000 hectares of Crown Land at Stray
Creek. Eight blocks were
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sold as leasehold (at an average price of $40 - $60/ha) with the
condition that $250,000 worth of
development (including clearing, establishment of roads and fences
etc) would enable the lease to
be upgraded to freehold. Further incentive to clear and develop land
is provided by the free 10
year water licences allowing annual extraction of 2,500 mega litres.
1
These conditions attached to
the Stray Creek blocks are similar to development incentives offered
to soldiers returning from
World War I and II which have lead to huge land management problems in
southern Australia.
ECNT believes by offering incentives to clear land and use water that
the NT Government is
subsidising environmental destruction in the region.
The NT Government has committed $10 million to the release of Crown
land at Stray Creek
including the construction of Fleming Road. This road is already
causing significant erosion
problems where it crosses Stray Creek.
Immediate attention to this problem is required.
In addition the Northern Territory Government
have also committed $12 million to the
development of road infrastructure in the Daly
Basin over the course of 2000-2002 in order to
facilitate further agricultural development in the
region.
Proposed Pastoral lease subdivisions
An application to subdivide part of Douglas
Station (140,000ha) into ten mixed farming
blocks and several horticultural blocks, has
been received by the NT Government. The NT
Government prioritises the subdivision of “at
least one pastoral lease in the Katherine Daly Basin into intensive
mixed farms” in its economic
development strategy “Building a Better Territory” (June, 2002).
Landclearing regulations
In December 2002 the NT Government introduced new landclearing
controls to regulate
landclearing in areas that were subject to no existing regulations
(like the Daly Basin). Immediately
following this farmers in the Daly region flooded the NT Government
with applications to clear
around 8000 hectares in the Stray Creek and Oolloo areas in January
2003. The NT Minister for
Planning, Kon Vatskalis, is yet to approve the applications (as at 14
th
February 2003), which
represent a major test of the new clearing regulations.
The development of subdivided land at Douglas Station and land at
Stray Creek and Oolloo means
over 200,000 ha of land is at immediate risk of being cleared, in
addition to the 195,000 hectares
already cleared in the region.
Environmental Values
Despite considerable grazing pressures the Daly Basin is still in
relatively good condition. The
major ecological feature of the bioregion, the Daly River, has
extremely high conservation values.
Eight out of nine freshwater turtle species found in the NT are found
in the Daly River, including the
largest known population of the threatened Pig-nosed Turtle in
Australia. The bioregion is also
home to a number of nationally listed threatened and migratory species
including the Gouldian
Finch, Partridge Pidgeon, Ghost Bat and Crested Shrike-tit.
1
Where one mega litre is equivalent to the volume of water in an
Olympic sized swimming pool.
Erosion at the Stray Creek crossing, June 02
Photo: ECNT
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The dry season flow of the Daly can fall to less than 2 cubic
metres/second with depths less than 50cm. The river is
extremely vulnerable to the impacts of groundwater extraction at
this time with the possibility that the river could cease to flow (the
flow is maintained by groundwater springs feeding the river).
By contrast, wet season flow from rainfall runoff is as high as
6,000 cubic metres/second with depths reaching 15-20 metres.
Small variations in the dry season flow rate may have major
impacts on the freshwater flora and fauna including several
endangered species that are known to live in the Daly River. For
example the Freshwater Sawfish (Pristis microdon) the largest
freshwater fish in Australia, and the Pig-nosed Turtle
(Carettochelys insculpta) are known to have strict flow and water
requirements for feeding and breeding.
The Freshwater Sawfish inhabits
intermittent pools in the river in the dry
season. The impact of taking a large
proportion (for example the NT
Government’s current 20% cap) of the
dry season flow on the connectivity
between pools is unknown. Pools may
well dry up in the dry season with
significant groundwater extraction.
Similarly flow rates and water quality from
groundwater input also affects the growth
and distribution of ribbon weed in the
river. Ribbon weed is a major food source
for turtles (including the threatened Pig-
nosed Turtle) and fish in the river.
Changes to the river’s ecology also have
the potential to impact significantly on the
cultural and recreational values of the
region. There have been no
comprehensive fish or aquatic species
surveys of the Daly River.
Environmental Impacts of Development
There is a high degree of connectivity between the groundwater systems
and the Daly River.
Irrigation in the Daly region drawing on the groundwater will impact
on the ecology of the Daly
River, particularly as the time when demand is highest for irrigation
water, at the end of the dry
season, coincides with the time that the river needs the groundwater
recharge most. Obviously any
surface water use through pumping from the river will also have an
impact on the Daly.
Pig nosed turtle eating ribbon weed
Photo: John Cann
Spring water flowing into the Daly River June 2001.
Photo: ECNT
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The major environmental impacts associated
with increased agricultural development and
production are likely to be:
• The use of groundwater and surface
water for irrigation will reduce flows
available for environmental functions.
• Landclearing- significant areas are
targeted for landclearing in the Daly
Basin (200,000 ha are under immediate
threat). Landclearing destroys and
fragments habitat, interferes with soil
and water processes increasing run-off
and contributes to greenhouse gas
emissions
• Increased chemical load and soil run-
off which will impact upon the Daly river
and other streams as well as
groundwater.
• Interruption of fire regimes and
increased potential for weed problems
associated with cleared land.
The Parks and Wildlife Commission NT have
been developing a conservation plan for the
Daly Basin, which may mitigate some of the
development impacts. However the
conservation plan was developed on the basis
that the region would be developed and promotes a vegetation retention
rate of 30%, implicitly
endorsing the clearing of up to 70% of a bioregion (ie.1.4 million
hectares- an additional 1.2 million
hectares). The NT Government is yet to release the conservation plan.
Meanwhile landclearing
and development in the area continues. Whether the NT Government’s new
landclearing controls
reduce landclearing rates and impacts in the Daly is yet to be seen.
Conclusion
Development pressures in the Daly Basin threaten the health and
integrity of one of Australia's
most important river systems. Aspects of the Daly Basin ecology remain
poorly understood and yet
development is accelerating in the area. The NT Government is
recklessly pursuing agricultural
development of the area and is subsidising this development by selling
off cheaply, or providing
free of charge, public land and water. The NT Government has failed to
explore other industries
that may be viable in the region, or to look at the impact of
agricultural development on industries
currently operating in the region like recreational fishing and
tourism.
ECNT is particularly concerned about the likely impacts of irrigated
agriculture and mixed farming
on the Daly River. We believe that the NT Government’s approach
allowing extraction of 20% of
the river’s dry season flow is too crude to accommodate the
environmental requirements of this
fragile river ecosystem. Impacts associated with 20% extraction of the
river’s dry season flow and a
considerable proportion of groundwater flows and recharge are likely
to be unacceptable.
The Environment Centre NT appreciates that a number of environmental
studies in the Daly Basin
region are currently being undertaken. However until more is known
about the environmental
requirements of the river there should be no further subdivision,
landclearing or new water
allocations in the Daly basin.
Freshwater sawfish. This one was found in South
Alligator River in 1982, but they have also been found in
the Daly. Photo: Di Koser
Page 5
The Northern Territory Government seems intent on repeating the
mistakes of agricultural development in southern Australia, refusing
to acknowledge the costs attached to landclearing,
water extraction and intensive agricultural production.
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Tipperary chases $200 million

November 12th, 2008
BUYERS WANTED:
An ‘unprecedented’ number of pastoral properties are up for sale in
the Northern Territory — and across northern Australia — at the
moment. Picture: TOURISM NT
http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2008/11/12/15535_nt-business.html

TERRITORY rural properties worth $330 million are for sale in one of
the biggest land sell-offs in recent history.

More than $170 million worth of stations have already sold this year.

There has also been an increase of properties across northern
Australia listed for sale in recent weeks.

The latest to hit the market was Queensland's Laglan Station.

Vendor cattleman Charles Lund expects to fetch up to $110 million for
the property.

Herron Todd White Darwin valuer Frank Peacocke told The Australian the
number of large-scale pastoral properties for sale in the Northern
Territory was almost unprecedented.

Some of the most iconic Top End stations are up for sale - the most
expensive property dangling the "for sale" sign is Tipperary, west of
Adelaide River.

Melbourne-based QC Allan Myers is understood to have bought the
property for $50 million five years ago.

The market price has quadrupled and it is now for sale for $200
million.

Legune Station, on the Territory side of the Western Australian
border, is also up for grabs for just $70 million.

Meanwhile, Paul Zlotkowski's Wollogorang station - with 80km of Gulf
of Carpentaria coastline - is for sale for $60 million.

Mr Peacocke said rural properties were at unprecedented levels, but
they have been slow to sell this year.

"This time it was a really bullish, strong market," he said.

"I guess people have thought it might be at its top, so they are
taking the opportunity to see if the market would buy their property
at these levels."

Territory stations La Belle Downs/Welltree sold for $72.5 million,
Alroy Downs for $70 million, and Ucharonidge for $28 million this
year.

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On Nov 24, 5:52 am, kangarooistan <kangarooist...@gmail.com> wrote:
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.

> OK its nice trophy property but whats it real potential worth from an
> agricultural point , the trophy hunters have all gone broke ,
> .
> now its back to real business end of rural land
>
> How many cattle and what are the "real" running costs per head turned
> off ,
>
> What is the "real" profit per head and how many head have "really"
> been sold over last 20 years off the land as distinct from sales
> bought in to fatten or boost numbers

Lots of nice blocks on the market but few buyers

Prices look like coming down


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kangarooistan wrote:

> OK its nice trophy property but whats it real potential worth from an
> agricultural point , the trophy hunters have all gone broke ,
> .
> now its back to real business end of rural land


kangarooistan wrote:

> South Australia GMH plant not survive when it loses markets in
> Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Oman, Syria, Lebanon, United Arab Emirates,
> Qatar, Kuwait, Iraq, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Fiji, and Brunei
>

> Bob Hawke wrote:
>
> > Kangarooistan's - Malcom Fabian's details :-
> >
> > Skitskin moslem CA Fabian, 5 Pfeiffer Close, Mt Barker, 5251, South
> > Australia, +61 8 8391 1292

Now that the slimy little creep has closed all car manufacturing
industry, and wasted 6 billion taxpayers bailout

AND destroyed the Australian tourism industry

AND Bankrupted Qantas

The slimy little creap now wants to destroy the Australian meat
industry as well

At least aussie taxpayers are getting what they deserve

Thank GOD for using the slimy little creep to punish Australian
taxpayers for their crimes

For every action there is an equal and opposte reaction seems to be
beyond Australian taxpayers understanding

OH well , they reap what they sow , its their childrens future they
let him destroy and perhaps its best they are culled from the planet
if they refuse to arrest criminals they must accept responsibility for
their criminal neglect

kanga can only warn them and get on with rebuilding what ever is left
after the war ends and all western taxpayers are forced to account for
his crimes in full

Hans Smallgoods goes into administration
http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/img/2006/ep2/cronriot.jpg
White Australia REFUSES to accept times are changing rapidly
.
SOME businees STILL fail to understan the White australiapolicy died
years ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy
The White Australia policy is a term used to describe a collection of
historical policies that intentionally restricted non-white
immigration to Australia from 1901 to 1973.

The inauguration of White Australia as government policy is generally
taken to be the passage of the Immigration Restriction Act in 1901,
one of the first Acts of the new national parliament upon federation,
with virtually no parliamentary opposition.

Some DUMB Aussies still think they can kill of Aboriginals and Camels
as vermin
http://www.smh.com.au/news/Opinion/A-journey-into-Downers-dark-past/2005/05/31/1117305617682.html

JONATHON ("Jack") Watson was a man known as "hard on the blacks".
Originally from Melbourne, Watson died in 1896 trying to swim the
flooded Katherine River, south of Darwin. A newspaper obituary
described him as "never wanting in generosity, kindliness of heart,
and bravery", but Watson had 40 pairs of black ears nailed to his wall
at Queensland's Lawn Hills cattle station.

Laws were passed to shoot all camels on sight to stop Aboriginals and
Muslims from earning a living , both have not only survived the white
christians racists laws and beliefs Aboriginals AND Muslims AND camels
are growing exponentially , despite all the extra hardships by racist
white christian criminals abuses they continue to grow daily

http://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ/C/A/CAMELS%20DESTRUCTION%20ACT%201925.aspx
More than one million camels are estimated to range across the central
Australian arid zone, which extends into the Northern Territory, South
Australia and Western Australia.

Mr Edwards said that their population was doubling about every eight
years and, unlike kangaroos, did not suffer high rates of mortality
during drought.

Camels living in the arid zones such as the Australian deserts
traveled vast distances in the search for water, he said. Individual
animals can traverse a region of between 4,000 and 5,000 square
kilometres (1,544-1,930 square miles) in a year.

25,000 camels at the peak of their popularity in the 1920s

153 camels shot in a day after 1925 Camel Destruction Act

£24m spent annually to protect livestock from camels


Posted Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:14pm AEDT

Hans Continental Smallgoods has gone into voluntary
administration.
.
Kangarooistan Enterprises seeks camel meat smallgoods
operation , examines buy out plan options

250,000 camels will be born next year in Australia , after wide
spread rains , and 50,000 jobs will be created in next few years
Australia wide , if live exports and gun crazed maniacs can be
defeated

There is an over supply of European smallgoods manufacturers

There is a chronic UNDER SUPPLY of " Halal " smallgoods

The demand for European smallgoods is decreasing and competition is
very very very tight , they are ALL in trouble big time

Demand for " Halal " smallgoods are increasing daily

Kangarooistan Enterprises has identifies an opening for a Halal
smallgoods / meat industry based on vast numbers of camels building up
into plague proportion in central Australia

In 10 years time there WILL be 50,000 people employed servicing this
market opportunity , it is inevitable , but only after Aussies sober
up enough to look forward 10 or 20 years when there will be no
Manufacturing jobs left in Australia and billions of workers in Asia
looking for more "Halal " red meats , with demand increasing world
wide , Aussie taxpayers STILL pay idiots in helicopters to shoot
camels for fun

It only remains to be seen if it is in Australia and owned and
operated by Australians for Australians or if it is sent over seas

Dumb Aussies are giving 6 billion to prop up a dying car industry
while paying to SHOOT camels and DRIVE Muslim business over seas ASAP

Aussies ALWAYS do things back to front AND upside down

Aussies in 10 years time will LAUGH at how DUMB people are today to
learn taxpayers paid 6 billion to prop up dead and dying car
manufacturing

THEN paid to shoot camels and PAID to drive Halal al smallgoods
industry off shore

When both industries employ similar numbers BUT only the camel
industry has a natural advantage and a future in Australia

Australia can NEVER compete with other countries in car manufacturing

Other countries can NEVER compete with Australia in Camel based meats
and Smallgoods

PITY Aussies are too DUMB to work it out YET

Pity that by the time they do it will be lost to off shore live
exporters and ASIAN smallgoods manufacturers will be SO PLEASED for
Aussies stupidity and racism

The population estimate I would give you currently would be anywhere
between, let's say, about 800,000 and 1 million camels.

PHIL GEE: Really, if we don't do anything and if we don't coordinate
across the states to manage the camel numbers, the feral camel
numbers, then we're looking at a future where camels will become a
major player in the environment of central Australia.
http://www.abc.net.au/landline/content/2006/s1913545.htm

GLENN EDWARDS: So, while there are a lot of camels out there
currently, in eight years' time, there'll be roughly twice as many as
there are now. So, that has huge management implications for us when
we start to think about camels and their impact on the environment.

PHIL GEE: Potentially, in less than a generation, we could be looking
at four to five million camels - quite easily - in the central
Australian regions, and that's untenable.

I love the camel. I think they're a marvellous animal. But, as you
know, here in Australia, you know, we have a fairly significant
problem with them, so it's a bit of a dilemma for people like me.

(.

MARK WILLACY: Phil Gee is an ecologist with Rural Solutions SA, and
is known as South Australia's 'Mr Camel'. He's also an advocate of
eating his favourite animal.

FRIEND: Mmm. It's good. It's a lot like beef, isn't it?

PHIL GEE: Oh, yeah, you wouldn't pick the difference.

MARK WILLACY: Phil Gee believes there's a huge market for camel in
the Arab and Muslim worlds, with some cuts fetching hundreds of
dollars a kilogram.

So, why then is there no camel meat industry in Australia?

PHIL GEE; A lot of it is we don't have the infrastructure in place,
you know, we don't have the trucking capacity, we don't… we certainly
don't have the abattoir. That is the biggy. You asked me earlier what
are the things I would do - an export accredited abattoir
specifically targeting camels but multi-species, initially, is
extremely important.

MARK WILLACY: With an accredited abattoir up and running, Phil Gee
predicts that Australia could export more than 25,000 processed
camels a year to markets crying out for the meat. But it could be
years before he's toasting success.

So how do you stop the camels causing chaos?
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/btn/stories/s1941785.htm
Well some say we should be doing a lot more of this - yep eating
camel meat. Well there's a first time for everything... it's actually
pretty good...tastes a lot like beef.

"The population is increasing at 8 to 10 per cent per annum and we've
got the situation where we have probably a million camels out there
by now and the impacts are starting to become very noticeable

To keep the numbers under control Mr Keeley believes up to 100 000
animals need to be culled each year. Current methods include aerial
shooting by the department as well as gound shooting by pastoralists
and doggers.

"So we are concerned that we don't want to see just culling willy-
nilly.
http://www.abc.net.au/landline/stories/s584460.htm
.
"We want our input, we want our advice to go into those culling
programs and with that everybody will benefit including state
governments, parks and wildlife and so on because the present cost of
culling is currently about $42 head, so it's not just the cost of a
bullet.

"You've got all the back up with helicopters, ground crews and so on
to do it effectively.

"What we're saying is allow us some input.

"It's not going to cost you that $42 head, instead you'll get a
possible return.
.
"Obviously the ideal is for people to make money out of camels if they
can and actually keep the population in check by doing that.

"The thing with camels is a lot of the population occurs in very
remote areas where there are no vehicle tracks or any sort of access.
.
"At the present moment we have four major ABORIGINAL communities that
are not only gearing up but are able to supply only in a smaller way,
because they don't have all the infrastructure in place but they're
getting there," Peter said.

"They need to have fences, they need to have yards, loading ramps,
drafting facilities, all of these things need to be in place before
they muster feral numbers and start domesticating them.

"Once they've got that in place they will be by far our biggest
suppliers because they've got access to far more camels than anyone
else," he said.

Peter thinks it's an exciting new development .

"Well it certainly is not just for us because we see our way clear to
expand our orders out there," Peter said.

"You know expand supply, but for them, it's a means of becoming self-
sufficient and not just in a small way but having a very large income


at the end of the day.

"The end of the day unfortunately is not tomorrow but two, or three
or four years away because it takes that long to get really
established in a new industry,"
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2004/s1206585.htm
If we can get a road train down when we have 60 camels ready for
sale – 60 times 300, you know, is quite a lot of money – $180,000.in
a remote Aboriginal community with NIL other income thats a lot of
money that racists dont want the Aboriginal people to see , they
will continue to do all in their power to stop the Australian camel
industry by any means in their power even if it bankrupts Australia
the Aboriginals and Muslims must NEVER EVER be given any hope of
gaining any secure income from any source EVER

100,000 camels a year would give Australian Aboriginals
.100 000 * 300 = $30, 000, 000
More about calculator.
100,000 culled camels cost taxpayers

100 000 * 42 = $4 ,200, 000

camels if managed instead of being shot could easily could employ
50,000 Australians from aboriginal stock men , truckers , meat
workers, refrigeration ,maintaince ,clerical ,management ,to
smallgoods factories in Sydney but DUMB Aussies want camels , Muslims
and Aboriginals to all go away or drop DEAD ASAP

Aboriginals muslims and camels are very patient

Dumb Aussies EVENTUALLY wake up

It may take another 200 years though at present rates , we all know
the Aussies are very very slow learners , but they always get there
in the end , once they try every thing else first eventually they
work it out , lets hope ALL the real jobs dont get GRABBED by off
shore business AGAIN
.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_feral_camel
http://www.abc.net.au/rural/wa/content/2006/s2301550.htm

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 AND Bankrupted Qantas

> Hans Smallgoods goes into administrationhttp://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/img/2006/ep2/cronriot.jpg


> White Australia REFUSES to accept times are changing rapidly
> .
> SOME businees STILL fail to understan the White australiapolicy died

> years agohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy


> The White Australia policy is a term used to describe a collection of
> historical policies that intentionally restricted non-white
> immigration to Australia from 1901 to 1973.
>
> The inauguration of White Australia as government policy is generally
> taken to be the passage of the Immigration Restriction Act in 1901,
> one of the first Acts of the new national parliament upon federation,
> with virtually no parliamentary opposition.
>
Some DUMB Aussies still think they can kill of Aboriginals and Camels
as vermin

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Opinion/A-journey-into-Downers-dark-past/2...


>
JONATHON ("Jack") Watson was a man known as "hard on the blacks".
Originally from Melbourne, Watson died in 1896 trying to swim the
flooded Katherine River, south of Darwin. A newspaper obituary
described him as "never wanting in generosity, kindliness of heart,
and bravery", but Watson had 40 pairs of black ears nailed to his wall
at Queensland's Lawn Hills cattle station.
>
> Laws were passed to shoot all camels on sight to stop Aboriginals and
> Muslims from earning a living , both have not only survived the white
> christians racists laws and beliefs Aboriginals AND Muslims AND camels
> are growing exponentially , despite all the extra hardships by racist
> white christian criminals abuses they continue to grow daily
>

> http://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ/C/A/CAMELS%20DESTRUCTION%20ACT%20...

> major player in the environment of central Australia.http://www.abc.net.au/landline/content/2006/s1913545.htm

> So how do you stop the camels causing chaos?http://www.abc.net.au/tv/btn/stories/s1941785.htm


> Well some say we should be doing a lot more of this - yep eating
> camel  meat. Well there's a first time for everything... it's actually
> pretty  good...tastes a lot like beef.
>
> "The population is increasing at 8 to 10 per cent per annum and we've
> got the situation where we have probably a million camels out there
> by  now and the impacts are starting to become very noticeable
>
> To keep the numbers under control Mr Keeley believes up to 100 000
> animals need to be culled each year. Current methods include aerial
> shooting by the department as well as gound shooting by pastoralists
> and doggers.
>
> "So we are concerned that we don't want to see just culling willy-

> nilly.http://www.abc.net.au/landline/stories/s584460.htm


> .
> "We want our input, we want our advice to go into those culling
> programs and with that everybody will benefit including state
> governments, parks and wildlife and so on because the present cost of
> culling is currently about $42 head, so it's not just the cost of a
> bullet.
>
> "You've got all the back up with helicopters, ground crews and so on
> to do it effectively.
>
> "What we're saying is allow us some input.
>
> "It's not going to cost you that $42 head, instead you'll get a
> possible return.
> .
> "Obviously the ideal is for people to make money out of camels if they
> can and actually keep the population in check by doing that.
>

> "The thing with camels is a lot of...
>
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