British Colonialism vs Nation Building

[Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 9:46:21 AM UTC-4, Malcolm McMahon wrote:
> On Tuesday, 12 April 2016 14:06:37 UTC+1, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 5:32:37 AM UTC-4, Malcolm McMahon wrote:
> > > On Monday, 11 April 2016 14:17:29 UTC+1, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher wrote:
> > > > On Monday, April 11, 2016 at 8:45:23 AM UTC-4, Vito wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 20:34:55 -0700, Thomas <xs...@xmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > >On Sat, 09 Apr 2016 08:16:01 -0700, Vito <vi...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
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> > > > > >> On Fri, 08 Apr 2016 21:42:16 -0700, Thomas <xs...@xmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > >>> On Fri, 08 Apr 2016 18:33:42 -0700, Vito <vi...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
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> > > > > >>>> Assuming warming is man made - a huge assumption -
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> It isn't, really. The staggering amount of data to support the thesis is
> > > > > >>> overwhelming. The only reason to doubt it is a reluctance to face the
> > > > > >>> cost of fixing the problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > The cost of "fixing the problem" cannot be measured in dollars.
> > > > > Nothing environmentalists have so far proposed has any promise of
> > > > > "fixing the problem". Solar panels and wind mills are not going to do
> > > > > that, nor will riding a bicycle.
> > > >
> > > > Since population reduction is preferable to riding a bike, how do you want to go about it? Do you think, say, that America, China and India should be taken out? How do you selectively take out half the population without producing a nuclear winter?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You spread woman's education. It's already happening. Number of daughters per mother is down from about 7 to about 3 over the last century.
> >
> > Then come the Christians and preach population growth. 😐
> >
> > Growth reduction may be accomplished in places where the Christians do NOT have control. Look at Philippines.
> >
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> The figures I gave were on the world level.
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> > And there's another side effect: Growth reduction goes together with low mortality rates, which result in aging populations.
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> Which result in less violent societies, which further reduce mortality. A virtuous circle to my mind.

No easy solutions. But let me go back to the bike and imperialism.

The British Empire may have been one of the most benevolent conquerors. It gave the little guy in India a chance to be mobile. The 100 year-old British bicycle is still the most popular model. It's unfortunate we don't use this model as part of "nation building."

But colonialism and neo-colonialism are two different enterprises. In the former the empire was responsible. Now local elites grab whatever they can and run. Population growth is just one ingredient of overpopulation. Holland is densely populated but still very functional. I don't see them sitting in endless traffic jams. At least they have an option.

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[ltlee1]

Colonialism is through the back door in the form British connected tax havens is responsible.

[Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

We need to change the money every once in a while. Money is the umbilical cord of the baby.

Colonialism was a liability.

[ltlee1]

Colonialism is about extracting wealth from colonies. The modern way of doing that is through tax havens.

"Britain’s spiderweb ... — most of its former colonies in Africa, India, and elsewhere really are independent. But what Britain has done instead is to retain a large degree of control of the vast flows of wealth in and out of these places, under the table. Illicit capital flight from Africa, for example, flows mostly into the modern British spiderweb, to be managed in London. In both the French and the British systems, powerful interest groups in the old colonial powers have built secret financial relationships with the local elites, creating global alliances with each other against the ordinary citizens of these poor countries— and against their own citizens too."

Shaxson, Nicholas (2011-04-12). Treasure Islands: Uncovering the Damage of Offshore Banking and Tax Havens (p. 20). St. Martin's Press. Kindle Edition.

[Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 6:05:22 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 4:34:42 PM UTC-4, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 1:39:59 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > Colonialism is through the back door in the form British connected tax havens is responsible.
> >
> > We need to change the money every once in a while. Money is the umbilical cord of the baby.
> >
> > Colonialism was a liability.
>
> Colonialism is about extracting wealth from colonies. The modern way of doing that is through tax havens.
>

> "Britain's spiderweb ... -- most of its former colonies in Africa, India, and elsewhere really are independent. But what Britain has done instead is to retain a large degree of control of the vast flows of wealth in and out of these places, under the table. Illicit capital flight from Africa, for example, flows mostly into the modern British spiderweb, to be managed in London. In both the French and the British systems, powerful interest groups in the old colonial powers have built secret financial relationships with the local elites, creating global alliances with each other against the ordinary citizens of these poor countries-- and against their own citizens too."

>
> Shaxson, Nicholas (2011-04-12). Treasure Islands: Uncovering the Damage of Offshore Banking and Tax Havens (p. 20). St. Martin's Press. Kindle Edition.

My understanding is that the elites of the rich nations themselves benefit from the tax heavens created abroad. Granted, most of the money comes from the third world. This way:

HOW THE POLITICAL JUNGLE WORKS

Politics works like this: Big People of Big Country buy Big People of Little Country, who, by the way, will be elected in "democratic elections" thanks to big bucks; Big People of Big Country give big loans to Little Country (of course, to buy "made in Big Country"); Big People of Little Country pocket a big chunk and invest it in the Big Country, without ever investing in real development (education, health, the environment, etc); Little People of Little Country work for ever to pay back what they never got; Big People of Little Country thank Big People of Big Country in big ceremony, and promise to repay the big debt; and Little People of Little Country get big promises, just like Little People of Big Country. And they lived happily ever after... (Moral: The Big Fish eats the Little Fish. Well, unless the Little Fish get organized)

[Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

There aren't easy solutions but I found some:

German legislationEdit

Peer Steinbrück, the former German finance minister, announced in January 2009 a plan to amend fiscal laws. New regulations would disallow that payments to companies in certain countries that shield money from disclosure rules to be declared as operational expenses. The effect of this would make banking in such states unattractive and expensive.

[ltlee1]

Rich countries like the US and German have the resources and the know how to fix the problems. But due to lobbying and campaign financing, US governments did little to really solve the problem. For example, Delaware has regressive taxation. The more profit you book, the lower the tax rate. Poor countries either don't know the problem exists and/or the leaders themselves need to shield money from exposure. They are part of the problem rather than the solution.

[Sam Sumg]

British Colonialism means racial superiority .
even
at the 1919 conference of nation states.
white race Australians refused
to accept a Race Equality Clause during the Treaty of Nation in Versailles France in 1919

[Sam Sumg]

Australians in 1919 refused to accept
a Japanese Clause for Race Equality
during the 1919 Treaty of nations in
Versailles France .
British Colonialism meant Racial Discriminations

[Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

And what would be the solution? Accept them?

[Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

Gandhi taught them a lesson and they took notice.

But now India is learning the western ways.

[Sam Sumg]

British is a white racist people

British were extremely racist in Hong Kong that was why China took back
Hong Kong

[ltlee1]

Greater and greater inequality will lead to a populist backlash, the rise of neo-Nazi parties in Europe and Trump in the US. Writers such as Doris Kearns Goodwin had commented on the similarity between now and early 1900s. In the US, this led to the progressive. Old world Europe was less capable to solve their problems.

[Sam Sumg]

Trump is true American

Trump speaks the truth

[Sam Sumg]

[Sam Sumg]

[Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher]

On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 8:17:25 AM UTC-4, Sam Sumg wrote:
> Trump is true American
>
> Trump speaks the truth

Nobody can fix America but Jesus... and he's dead. ❓

[Sam Sumg]

Jesus is a white race god

why white race wants Jesus in China ?

Chinese is yellow race