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Michael
Aug 14, 2014, 4:52:38 PM8/14/14
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A gay couple have been forced to leave their home after being
subjected to a campaign of hate in which they claim they were
accused of being paedophiles by local youths.
Solicitor Daniel Donaldson, 34, said he and his partner Arran
Southall, 28, have endured months of misery as their property
was attacked and they were abused at their home in Edinburgh.
Mr Donaldson, a volunteer at Glasgow 2014, has written an open
letter to the Scottish Justice Secretary, the Lord Advocate and
others urging them to review the current laws on hate crime
which he said were ineffective against children.
He said that despite the efforts of police, who have charged a
number of youths in connection with the incidents, there were no
safeguards to prevent further offending and they no longer felt
safe.
�My partner and I are now looking to relocate away from
Edinburgh. We have had enough. I hope that when we move, we get
to enjoy the peace and quiet in our own home, and the freedom
from abuse, harassment and vandalism, that we should expect,� he
said.
�I have been branded a 'paedo' and a 'beast' in front of my own
home. Our car windscreen has been smashed in. Stones, bricks and
other missiles have all been thrown at our home, our property is
subject to regular trespass and children will even come as far
as the front door to bang and shout abuse,� he wrote.
The couple had lived happily in the Drylaw area of the city for
the past three-and-a-half years but trouble started earlier this
year when a number of new families moved into the neighbourhood,
he said. �It just built up over a period of time. It started
with low level stuff � them shouting �gay� and �puff� � and then
escalated quickly to vandalism and property damage,� he told The
Independent.
�My partner and I can�t sleep. It got to the point where I was
considering taking tranquilisers. We contemplated sleeping in
the living room because it was not facing the road. It made our
lives unbearable. I am not holding myself out to be a victim.
What I am doing is standing up to them. The problem we have is
that hate crime legislation that is meant to protect people is
ineffective against children,� he added.
Colin Macfarlane, director of Stonewall Scotland, said: �The sad
reality for many lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Scots is
that they face hate crime every day at home, in their
communities and their workplaces.�
Edinburgh councillor Cammy Day, community safety leader, said:
�Hate crime is completely unacceptable. The council treats all
reports of hate crime extremely seriously, and is working with
Police Scotland to investigate.�
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/gay-couple-driven-
from-their-edinburgh-home-by-local-youths-9667348.html
Faggots are unacceptable in any civilized society.
subjected to a campaign of hate in which they claim they were
accused of being paedophiles by local youths.
Solicitor Daniel Donaldson, 34, said he and his partner Arran
Southall, 28, have endured months of misery as their property
was attacked and they were abused at their home in Edinburgh.
Mr Donaldson, a volunteer at Glasgow 2014, has written an open
letter to the Scottish Justice Secretary, the Lord Advocate and
others urging them to review the current laws on hate crime
which he said were ineffective against children.
He said that despite the efforts of police, who have charged a
number of youths in connection with the incidents, there were no
safeguards to prevent further offending and they no longer felt
safe.
�My partner and I are now looking to relocate away from
Edinburgh. We have had enough. I hope that when we move, we get
to enjoy the peace and quiet in our own home, and the freedom
from abuse, harassment and vandalism, that we should expect,� he
said.
�I have been branded a 'paedo' and a 'beast' in front of my own
home. Our car windscreen has been smashed in. Stones, bricks and
other missiles have all been thrown at our home, our property is
subject to regular trespass and children will even come as far
as the front door to bang and shout abuse,� he wrote.
The couple had lived happily in the Drylaw area of the city for
the past three-and-a-half years but trouble started earlier this
year when a number of new families moved into the neighbourhood,
he said. �It just built up over a period of time. It started
with low level stuff � them shouting �gay� and �puff� � and then
escalated quickly to vandalism and property damage,� he told The
Independent.
�My partner and I can�t sleep. It got to the point where I was
considering taking tranquilisers. We contemplated sleeping in
the living room because it was not facing the road. It made our
lives unbearable. I am not holding myself out to be a victim.
What I am doing is standing up to them. The problem we have is
that hate crime legislation that is meant to protect people is
ineffective against children,� he added.
Colin Macfarlane, director of Stonewall Scotland, said: �The sad
reality for many lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Scots is
that they face hate crime every day at home, in their
communities and their workplaces.�
Edinburgh councillor Cammy Day, community safety leader, said:
�Hate crime is completely unacceptable. The council treats all
reports of hate crime extremely seriously, and is working with
Police Scotland to investigate.�
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/gay-couple-driven-
from-their-edinburgh-home-by-local-youths-9667348.html
Faggots are unacceptable in any civilized society.
Bill Steele
Aug 15, 2014, 3:29:04 PM8/15/14
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On 8/14/14, 4:52 PM, Michael wrote:
> A gay couple have been forced to leave their home after being
> subjected to a campaign of hate in which they claim they were
> accused of being paedophiles by local youths.
>
> Solicitor Daniel Donaldson, 34, said he and his partner Arran
> Southall, 28, have endured months of misery as their property
> was attacked and they were abused at their home in Edinburgh.
>
> Mr Donaldson, a volunteer at Glasgow 2014, has written an open
> letter to the Scottish Justice Secretary, the Lord Advocate and
> others urging them to review the current laws on hate crime
> which he said were ineffective against children.
>
> He said that despite the efforts of police, who have charged a
> number of youths in connection with the incidents, there were no
> safeguards to prevent further offending and they no longer felt
> safe.
>
> �My partner and I are now looking to relocate away from
> A gay couple have been forced to leave their home after being
> subjected to a campaign of hate in which they claim they were
> accused of being paedophiles by local youths.
>
> Solicitor Daniel Donaldson, 34, said he and his partner Arran
> Southall, 28, have endured months of misery as their property
> was attacked and they were abused at their home in Edinburgh.
>
> Mr Donaldson, a volunteer at Glasgow 2014, has written an open
> letter to the Scottish Justice Secretary, the Lord Advocate and
> others urging them to review the current laws on hate crime
> which he said were ineffective against children.
>
> He said that despite the efforts of police, who have charged a
> number of youths in connection with the incidents, there were no
> safeguards to prevent further offending and they no longer felt
> safe.
>
> Edinburgh. We have had enough. I hope that when we move, we get
> to enjoy the peace and quiet in our own home, and the freedom
> from abuse, harassment and vandalism, that we should expect,� he
> to enjoy the peace and quiet in our own home, and the freedom
> said.
>
> �I have been branded a 'paedo' and a 'beast' in front of my own
> home. Our car windscreen has been smashed in. Stones, bricks and
> other missiles have all been thrown at our home, our property is
> subject to regular trespass and children will even come as far
> as the front door to bang and shout abuse,� he wrote.
> other missiles have all been thrown at our home, our property is
> subject to regular trespass and children will even come as far
>
> The couple had lived happily in the Drylaw area of the city for
> the past three-and-a-half years but trouble started earlier this
> year when a number of new families moved into the neighbourhood,
> he said. �It just built up over a period of time. It started
> The couple had lived happily in the Drylaw area of the city for
> the past three-and-a-half years but trouble started earlier this
> year when a number of new families moved into the neighbourhood,
> with low level stuff � them shouting �gay� and �puff� � and then
> escalated quickly to vandalism and property damage,� he told The
> Independent.
>
> �My partner and I can�t sleep. It got to the point where I was
> considering taking tranquilisers. We contemplated sleeping in
> the living room because it was not facing the road. It made our
> lives unbearable. I am not holding myself out to be a victim.
> What I am doing is standing up to them. The problem we have is
> that hate crime legislation that is meant to protect people is
> ineffective against children,� he added.
> the living room because it was not facing the road. It made our
> lives unbearable. I am not holding myself out to be a victim.
> What I am doing is standing up to them. The problem we have is
> that hate crime legislation that is meant to protect people is
>
> Colin Macfarlane, director of Stonewall Scotland, said: �The sad
> reality for many lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Scots is
> that they face hate crime every day at home, in their
> communities and their workplaces.�
> that they face hate crime every day at home, in their
>
> Edinburgh councillor Cammy Day, community safety leader, said:
> �Hate crime is completely unacceptable. The council treats all
> Edinburgh councillor Cammy Day, community safety leader, said:
> reports of hate crime extremely seriously, and is working with
> Police Scotland to investigate.�
>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/gay-couple-driven-
> from-their-edinburgh-home-by-local-youths-9667348.html
>
> Faggots are unacceptable in any civilized society.
>
Pedophiles are unacceptable. Where is the evidence concerning these guys?
> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/gay-couple-driven-
> from-their-edinburgh-home-by-local-youths-9667348.html
>
> Faggots are unacceptable in any civilized society.
>
MattB
Aug 15, 2014, 3:48:00 PM8/15/14
to
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:29:04 -0400, Bill Steele <ws...@cornel.edu>
wrote:
>On 8/14/14, 4:52 PM, Michael wrote:
>> A gay couple have been forced to leave their home after being
>> subjected to a campaign of hate in which they claim they were
>> accused of being paedophiles by local youths.
>>
>> Solicitor Daniel Donaldson, 34, said he and his partner Arran
>> Southall, 28, have endured months of misery as their property
>> was attacked and they were abused at their home in Edinburgh.
>>
>> Mr Donaldson, a volunteer at Glasgow 2014, has written an open
>> letter to the Scottish Justice Secretary, the Lord Advocate and
>> others urging them to review the current laws on hate crime
>> which he said were ineffective against children.
>>
>> He said that despite the efforts of police, who have charged a
>> number of youths in connection with the incidents, there were no
>> safeguards to prevent further offending and they no longer felt
>> safe.
>>
>> �My partner and I are now looking to relocate away from
>> said.
>>
>> �I have been branded a 'paedo' and a 'beast' in front of my own
>>
>> Colin Macfarlane, director of Stonewall Scotland, said: �The sad
wrote:
>On 8/14/14, 4:52 PM, Michael wrote:
>> A gay couple have been forced to leave their home after being
>> subjected to a campaign of hate in which they claim they were
>> accused of being paedophiles by local youths.
>>
>> Solicitor Daniel Donaldson, 34, said he and his partner Arran
>> Southall, 28, have endured months of misery as their property
>> was attacked and they were abused at their home in Edinburgh.
>>
>> Mr Donaldson, a volunteer at Glasgow 2014, has written an open
>> letter to the Scottish Justice Secretary, the Lord Advocate and
>> others urging them to review the current laws on hate crime
>> which he said were ineffective against children.
>>
>> He said that despite the efforts of police, who have charged a
>> number of youths in connection with the incidents, there were no
>> safeguards to prevent further offending and they no longer felt
>> safe.
>>
>> Edinburgh. We have had enough. I hope that when we move, we get
>> to enjoy the peace and quiet in our own home, and the freedom
>> from abuse, harassment and vandalism, that we should expect,� he
>> to enjoy the peace and quiet in our own home, and the freedom
>> said.
>>
>> �I have been branded a 'paedo' and a 'beast' in front of my own
>> home. Our car windscreen has been smashed in. Stones, bricks and
>> other missiles have all been thrown at our home, our property is
>> subject to regular trespass and children will even come as far
>> as the front door to bang and shout abuse,� he wrote.
>> other missiles have all been thrown at our home, our property is
>> subject to regular trespass and children will even come as far
>>
>> The couple had lived happily in the Drylaw area of the city for
>> the past three-and-a-half years but trouble started earlier this
>> year when a number of new families moved into the neighbourhood,
>> The couple had lived happily in the Drylaw area of the city for
>> the past three-and-a-half years but trouble started earlier this
>> year when a number of new families moved into the neighbourhood,
>> he said. �It just built up over a period of time. It started
>> with low level stuff � them shouting �gay� and �puff� � and then
>> escalated quickly to vandalism and property damage,� he told The
>> Independent.
>>
>> �My partner and I can�t sleep. It got to the point where I was
>> with low level stuff � them shouting �gay� and �puff� � and then
>> escalated quickly to vandalism and property damage,� he told The
>> Independent.
>>
>> considering taking tranquilisers. We contemplated sleeping in
>> the living room because it was not facing the road. It made our
>> lives unbearable. I am not holding myself out to be a victim.
>> What I am doing is standing up to them. The problem we have is
>> that hate crime legislation that is meant to protect people is
>> ineffective against children,� he added.
>> the living room because it was not facing the road. It made our
>> lives unbearable. I am not holding myself out to be a victim.
>> What I am doing is standing up to them. The problem we have is
>> that hate crime legislation that is meant to protect people is
>>
>> Colin Macfarlane, director of Stonewall Scotland, said: �The sad
>> reality for many lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Scots is
>> that they face hate crime every day at home, in their
>> communities and their workplaces.�
>> that they face hate crime every day at home, in their
>>
>> Edinburgh councillor Cammy Day, community safety leader, said:
>> �Hate crime is completely unacceptable. The council treats all
>> Edinburgh councillor Cammy Day, community safety leader, said:
>> reports of hate crime extremely seriously, and is working with
>> Police Scotland to investigate.�
>>
>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/gay-couple-driven-
>> from-their-edinburgh-home-by-local-youths-9667348.html
>>
>> Faggots are unacceptable in any civilized society.
>>
>
>
>Pedophiles are unacceptable. Where is the evidence concerning these guys?
Also who are these new people that moved in?
>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/gay-couple-driven-
>> from-their-edinburgh-home-by-local-youths-9667348.html
>>
>> Faggots are unacceptable in any civilized society.
>>
>
>
>Pedophiles are unacceptable. Where is the evidence concerning these guys?
Bill Steele
Aug 15, 2014, 6:28:10 PM8/15/14
to
On 15 Aug 2014, Bill Steele <ws...@cornel.edu> posted some
news:B8SdnUHiqascwnPO...@earthlink.com:
> On 8/14/14, 4:52 PM, Michael wrote:
>> A gay couple have been forced to leave their home after being
>> subjected to a campaign of hate in which they claim they were
>> accused of being paedophiles by local youths.
>>
>> Solicitor Daniel Donaldson, 34, said he and his partner Arran
>> Southall, 28, have endured months of misery as their property
>> was attacked and they were abused at their home in Edinburgh.
>>
>> Mr Donaldson, a volunteer at Glasgow 2014, has written an open
>> letter to the Scottish Justice Secretary, the Lord Advocate and
>> others urging them to review the current laws on hate crime
>> which he said were ineffective against children.
>>
>> He said that despite the efforts of police, who have charged a
>> number of youths in connection with the incidents, there were no
>> safeguards to prevent further offending and they no longer felt
>> safe.
>>
>> �My partner and I are now looking to relocate away from
>> said.
>>
>> �I have been branded a 'paedo' and a 'beast' in front of my own
>>
>> Colin Macfarlane, director of Stonewall Scotland, said: �The sad
idea. Throw all the queers down a hole in Siberia.
news:B8SdnUHiqascwnPO...@earthlink.com:
> On 8/14/14, 4:52 PM, Michael wrote:
>> A gay couple have been forced to leave their home after being
>> subjected to a campaign of hate in which they claim they were
>> accused of being paedophiles by local youths.
>>
>> Solicitor Daniel Donaldson, 34, said he and his partner Arran
>> Southall, 28, have endured months of misery as their property
>> was attacked and they were abused at their home in Edinburgh.
>>
>> Mr Donaldson, a volunteer at Glasgow 2014, has written an open
>> letter to the Scottish Justice Secretary, the Lord Advocate and
>> others urging them to review the current laws on hate crime
>> which he said were ineffective against children.
>>
>> He said that despite the efforts of police, who have charged a
>> number of youths in connection with the incidents, there were no
>> safeguards to prevent further offending and they no longer felt
>> safe.
>>
>> Edinburgh. We have had enough. I hope that when we move, we get
>> to enjoy the peace and quiet in our own home, and the freedom
>> from abuse, harassment and vandalism, that we should expect,� he
>> to enjoy the peace and quiet in our own home, and the freedom
>> said.
>>
>> �I have been branded a 'paedo' and a 'beast' in front of my own
>> home. Our car windscreen has been smashed in. Stones, bricks and
>> other missiles have all been thrown at our home, our property is
>> subject to regular trespass and children will even come as far
>> as the front door to bang and shout abuse,� he wrote.
>> other missiles have all been thrown at our home, our property is
>> subject to regular trespass and children will even come as far
>>
>> The couple had lived happily in the Drylaw area of the city for
>> the past three-and-a-half years but trouble started earlier this
>> year when a number of new families moved into the neighbourhood,
>> The couple had lived happily in the Drylaw area of the city for
>> the past three-and-a-half years but trouble started earlier this
>> year when a number of new families moved into the neighbourhood,
>> he said. �It just built up over a period of time. It started
>> with low level stuff � them shouting �gay� and �puff� � and then
>> escalated quickly to vandalism and property damage,� he told The
>> Independent.
>>
>> �My partner and I can�t sleep. It got to the point where I was
>> with low level stuff � them shouting �gay� and �puff� � and then
>> escalated quickly to vandalism and property damage,� he told The
>> Independent.
>>
>> considering taking tranquilisers. We contemplated sleeping in
>> the living room because it was not facing the road. It made our
>> lives unbearable. I am not holding myself out to be a victim.
>> What I am doing is standing up to them. The problem we have is
>> that hate crime legislation that is meant to protect people is
>> ineffective against children,� he added.
>> the living room because it was not facing the road. It made our
>> lives unbearable. I am not holding myself out to be a victim.
>> What I am doing is standing up to them. The problem we have is
>> that hate crime legislation that is meant to protect people is
>>
>> Colin Macfarlane, director of Stonewall Scotland, said: �The sad
>> reality for many lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Scots is
>> that they face hate crime every day at home, in their
>> communities and their workplaces.�
>> that they face hate crime every day at home, in their
>>
>> Edinburgh councillor Cammy Day, community safety leader, said:
>> �Hate crime is completely unacceptable. The council treats all
>> Edinburgh councillor Cammy Day, community safety leader, said:
>> reports of hate crime extremely seriously, and is working with
>> Police Scotland to investigate.�
>>
>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/gay-couple-driven-
>> from-their-edinburgh-home-by-local-youths-9667348.html
>>
>> Faggots are unacceptable in any civilized society.
>>
>
>
> Pedophiles are unacceptable. Where is the evidence concerning these
> guys?
Gay is synonymous with pedophile the world over. Russians have the right
>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/gay-couple-driven-
>> from-their-edinburgh-home-by-local-youths-9667348.html
>>
>> Faggots are unacceptable in any civilized society.
>>
>
>
> Pedophiles are unacceptable. Where is the evidence concerning these
> guys?
idea. Throw all the queers down a hole in Siberia.
Charles Ring
Aug 16, 2014, 1:40:47 AM8/16/14
to
On 8/15/2014 1828, Bill Steele wrote:
> On 15 Aug 2014, Bill Steele <ws...@cornel.edu> posted some
> news:B8SdnUHiqascwnPO...@earthlink.com:
>
>> On 8/14/14, 4:52 PM, Michael wrote:
>>> A gay couple have been forced to leave their home after being
>>> subjected to a campaign of hate in which they claim they were
>>> accused of being paedophiles by local youths.
>>>
>>> Solicitor Daniel Donaldson, 34, said he and his partner Arran
>>> Southall, 28, have endured months of misery as their property
>>> was attacked and they were abused at their home in Edinburgh.
>>>
>>> Mr Donaldson, a volunteer at Glasgow 2014, has written an open
>>> letter to the Scottish Justice Secretary, the Lord Advocate and
>>> others urging them to review the current laws on hate crime
>>> which he said were ineffective against children.
>>>
>>> He said that despite the efforts of police, who have charged a
>>> number of youths in connection with the incidents, there were no
>>> safeguards to prevent further offending and they no longer felt
>>> safe.
>>>
>>> �My partner and I are now looking to relocate away from
> On 15 Aug 2014, Bill Steele <ws...@cornel.edu> posted some
> news:B8SdnUHiqascwnPO...@earthlink.com:
>
>> On 8/14/14, 4:52 PM, Michael wrote:
>>> A gay couple have been forced to leave their home after being
>>> subjected to a campaign of hate in which they claim they were
>>> accused of being paedophiles by local youths.
>>>
>>> Solicitor Daniel Donaldson, 34, said he and his partner Arran
>>> Southall, 28, have endured months of misery as their property
>>> was attacked and they were abused at their home in Edinburgh.
>>>
>>> Mr Donaldson, a volunteer at Glasgow 2014, has written an open
>>> letter to the Scottish Justice Secretary, the Lord Advocate and
>>> others urging them to review the current laws on hate crime
>>> which he said were ineffective against children.
>>>
>>> He said that despite the efforts of police, who have charged a
>>> number of youths in connection with the incidents, there were no
>>> safeguards to prevent further offending and they no longer felt
>>> safe.
>>>
>>> Edinburgh. We have had enough. I hope that when we move, we get
>>> to enjoy the peace and quiet in our own home, and the freedom
>>> from abuse, harassment and vandalism, that we should expect,� he
>>> to enjoy the peace and quiet in our own home, and the freedom
>>> said.
>>>
>>> �I have been branded a 'paedo' and a 'beast' in front of my own
>>> home. Our car windscreen has been smashed in. Stones, bricks and
>>> other missiles have all been thrown at our home, our property is
>>> subject to regular trespass and children will even come as far
>>> as the front door to bang and shout abuse,� he wrote.
>>> other missiles have all been thrown at our home, our property is
>>> subject to regular trespass and children will even come as far
>>>
>>> The couple had lived happily in the Drylaw area of the city for
>>> the past three-and-a-half years but trouble started earlier this
>>> year when a number of new families moved into the neighbourhood,
>>> The couple had lived happily in the Drylaw area of the city for
>>> the past three-and-a-half years but trouble started earlier this
>>> year when a number of new families moved into the neighbourhood,
>>> he said. �It just built up over a period of time. It started
>>> with low level stuff � them shouting �gay� and �puff� � and then
>>> escalated quickly to vandalism and property damage,� he told The
>>> Independent.
>>>
>>> �My partner and I can�t sleep. It got to the point where I was
>>> with low level stuff � them shouting �gay� and �puff� � and then
>>> escalated quickly to vandalism and property damage,� he told The
>>> Independent.
>>>
>>> considering taking tranquilisers. We contemplated sleeping in
>>> the living room because it was not facing the road. It made our
>>> lives unbearable. I am not holding myself out to be a victim.
>>> What I am doing is standing up to them. The problem we have is
>>> that hate crime legislation that is meant to protect people is
>>> ineffective against children,� he added.
>>> the living room because it was not facing the road. It made our
>>> lives unbearable. I am not holding myself out to be a victim.
>>> What I am doing is standing up to them. The problem we have is
>>> that hate crime legislation that is meant to protect people is
>>>
>>> Colin Macfarlane, director of Stonewall Scotland, said: �The sad
>>> reality for many lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Scots is
>>> that they face hate crime every day at home, in their
>>> communities and their workplaces.�
>>> that they face hate crime every day at home, in their
>>>
>>> Edinburgh councillor Cammy Day, community safety leader, said:
>>> �Hate crime is completely unacceptable. The council treats all
>>> Edinburgh councillor Cammy Day, community safety leader, said:
>>> reports of hate crime extremely seriously, and is working with
>>> Police Scotland to investigate.�
>>>
>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/gay-couple-driven-
>>> from-their-edinburgh-home-by-local-youths-9667348.html
>>>
>>> Faggots are unacceptable in any civilized society.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Pedophiles are unacceptable. Where is the evidence concerning these
>> guys?
>
> Gay is synonymous with pedophile the world over. Russians have the right
> idea. Throw all the queers down a hole in Siberia.
>
Russians do have the right idea but you have it very wrong. Gays there
>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/gay-couple-driven-
>>> from-their-edinburgh-home-by-local-youths-9667348.html
>>>
>>> Faggots are unacceptable in any civilized society.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Pedophiles are unacceptable. Where is the evidence concerning these
>> guys?
>
> Gay is synonymous with pedophile the world over. Russians have the right
> idea. Throw all the queers down a hole in Siberia.
>
are allowed to live their preferred way but not to brag it up and
influence young people.
RamRod
Aug 30, 2014, 2:09:46 PM8/30/14
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"Charles Ring" wrote in message news:lsmqt0$u9k$1...@dont-email.me...
> Russians do have the right idea but you have it very wrong. Gays there are
> allowed to live their preferred way but not to brag it up and influence
> young people.
This nasty law means that gay children cannot be educated about their sex,
and other children must not know that gay people exist..
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Charles Ring
Aug 30, 2014, 6:45:27 PM8/30/14
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destructive gay propaganda Russia had the wisdom to ban. I've seen
"LBGTQ" axpanded to "LGBTQQ", with the second Q for Questioning -
children who have not been convinced they are gay but might yet be
claimed for the cause.
RamRod
Aug 31, 2014, 2:47:19 AM8/31/14
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"Brother Love" wrote in message
news:7jj40a1lsdrnc3b8i...@4ax.com...
On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 04:09:46 +1000, "RamRod"
<ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal> wrote:
>> This nasty law means that gay children cannot be educated about their
>> sex,
>> and other children must not know that gay people exist..
>
>
> thinks there gay was molested by queers.
So are you gay?
RamRod
Aug 31, 2014, 2:53:15 AM8/31/14
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On 8/30/2014 1409, RamRod wrote:
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>
>> This nasty law means that gay children cannot be educated about their
>> sex, and other children must not know that gay people exist..
> The idea of children being gay is itself a class A #1 example of the
> destructive gay propaganda Russia had the wisdom to ban.
taught at your nutty religion.
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I. M. Normal
Aug 31, 2014, 5:03:31 PM8/31/14
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You fags are really sore that you can't force legislation
compelling normal people to accept you.
"RamRod" <ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal> wrote:
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compelling normal people to accept you.
RamRod
Aug 31, 2014, 5:32:38 PM8/31/14
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"I. M. Normal" wrote in message
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> You fags are really sore that you can't force legislation
> compelling normal people to accept you.
majority of the people in the Western Civilized worlds already accept them.
The nut cases who are bigots require legislation against gay people.
RamRod
Aug 31, 2014, 5:38:04 PM8/31/14
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"Brother Love" wrote in message
On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:47:19 +1000, "RamRod"
<ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal> wrote:
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>
>"Brother Love" wrote in message
>news:7jj40a1lsdrnc3b8i...@4ax.com...
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>On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 04:09:46 +1000, "RamRod"
><ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal> wrote:
>
>>>> This nasty law means that gay children cannot be educated about their
>>>> sex,
>>>> and other children must not know that gay people exist..
>>
>>
>
>>> Are you a child molester too? No child is gay. The onliest child that
>>> thinks there gay was molested by queers.
>
>
>
>
>
>> So are you gay?
>
>
> Absolutely not! I'm a Christian not a queer.
>
>
>"Brother Love" wrote in message
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>On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 04:09:46 +1000, "RamRod"
><ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal> wrote:
>
>>>> This nasty law means that gay children cannot be educated about their
>>>> sex,
>>>> and other children must not know that gay people exist..
>>
>>
>
>>> Are you a child molester too? No child is gay. The onliest child that
>>> thinks there gay was molested by queers.
>
>
>
>
>
>> So are you gay?
>
>
Then you would have no idea how people are gay.
Ask most gay people and they will tell you that they were born gay, and they
know because that was the way they were born.
Bill Taylor
Aug 31, 2014, 6:15:38 PM8/31/14
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"RamRod" <ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal> wrote:
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>
>
> "Brother Love" wrote in message
> news:7jj40a1lsdrnc3b8i...@4ax.com...
>
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 04:09:46 +1000, "RamRod"
> <ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal> wrote:
>
> >> This nasty law means that gay children cannot be educated about their
> >> sex,
> >> and other children must not know that gay people exist..
> >
> >
>
> > Are you a child molester too? No child is gay. The onliest child that
> > thinks there gay was molested by queers.
>
>
>
>
>
> So are you gay?
Why? You gonna hit on him?
>
>
>
> "Brother Love" wrote in message
> news:7jj40a1lsdrnc3b8i...@4ax.com...
>
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 04:09:46 +1000, "RamRod"
> <ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal> wrote:
>
> >> This nasty law means that gay children cannot be educated about their
> >> sex,
> >> and other children must not know that gay people exist..
> >
> >
>
> > Are you a child molester too? No child is gay. The onliest child that
> > thinks there gay was molested by queers.
>
>
>
>
>
> So are you gay?
Charles Ring
Aug 31, 2014, 7:48:02 PM8/31/14
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On 8/31/2014 1738, RamRod wrote:
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>
> "Brother Love" wrote in message
> news:rnv60aph8p6v17pv7...@4ax.com...
>
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:47:19 +1000, "RamRod"
> <ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Brother Love" wrote in message
>> news:7jj40a1lsdrnc3b8i...@4ax.com...
>>
>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 04:09:46 +1000, "RamRod"
>> <ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal> wrote:
>>
>>>>> This nasty law means that gay children cannot be educated about their
>>>>> sex,
>>>>> and other children must not know that gay people exist..
>>>
>>>
>>
>>>> Are you a child molester too? No child is gay. The onliest child that
>>>> thinks there gay was molested by queers.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> So are you gay?
>>
>>
>
>> Absolutely not! I'm a Christian not a queer.
>
>
>
> Then you would have no idea how people are gay.
>
> Ask most gay people and they will tell you that they were born gay, and
> they know because that was the way they were born.
>
>
>
I worked with a gay man who said he was so because his older brother
>
>
> "Brother Love" wrote in message
> news:rnv60aph8p6v17pv7...@4ax.com...
>
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:47:19 +1000, "RamRod"
> <ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Brother Love" wrote in message
>> news:7jj40a1lsdrnc3b8i...@4ax.com...
>>
>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 04:09:46 +1000, "RamRod"
>> <ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal> wrote:
>>
>>>>> This nasty law means that gay children cannot be educated about their
>>>>> sex,
>>>>> and other children must not know that gay people exist..
>>>
>>>
>>
>>>> Are you a child molester too? No child is gay. The onliest child that
>>>> thinks there gay was molested by queers.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> So are you gay?
>>
>>
>
>> Absolutely not! I'm a Christian not a queer.
>
>
>
> Then you would have no idea how people are gay.
>
> Ask most gay people and they will tell you that they were born gay, and
> they know because that was the way they were born.
>
>
>
molested him. By the time I met him he had all the stereotyped
attributes of a gay man. In case you wondered, I never had any conflict
with him.
I also had a bisexual girlfriend. Her two sisters were straight but her
two brothers were both gay. How likely is that if they are born that way?
She caught hepatitis A by drinking from her brother's glass while he was
home from San Francisco. A good example of gay men's excess
vulnerability to diseases caused by their lifestyle.
I. M. Normal
Aug 31, 2014, 8:23:03 PM8/31/14
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Charles Ring <w3...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> But they can, and are doing so right now.
That only works in some very specific circumstances where a
company has no choice. Bigger and public limit your choices.
Our company will not knowingly hire a gay or transgender worker
period. If one is discovered or suspected, they are simply
fired. We don't need a reason to fire them, this is a right to
work state. They get escorted to HR on Friday, get their
termination notice and two weeks severance, plus whatever monies
they are due. Security will dump the contents of their desk in
a bag and hand it to them on the way out.
Homosexuals are not reliable, cannot be trusted, and fail where
others succeed.
Bad laws don't last forever. We will see homosexuals kicked
back under the curb where they belong.
> Most often by court rulings
> that directly wipe out actual legislation, much of it enacted directly
> be voters not very long ago and not by close margins. Such a total and
> very fast reversal strongly suggests blackmail to me.
Charles Ring <w3...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
That only works in some very specific circumstances where a
company has no choice. Bigger and public limit your choices.
Our company will not knowingly hire a gay or transgender worker
period. If one is discovered or suspected, they are simply
fired. We don't need a reason to fire them, this is a right to
work state. They get escorted to HR on Friday, get their
termination notice and two weeks severance, plus whatever monies
they are due. Security will dump the contents of their desk in
a bag and hand it to them on the way out.
Homosexuals are not reliable, cannot be trusted, and fail where
others succeed.
Bad laws don't last forever. We will see homosexuals kicked
back under the curb where they belong.
> Most often by court rulings
> that directly wipe out actual legislation, much of it enacted directly
> be voters not very long ago and not by close margins. Such a total and
> very fast reversal strongly suggests blackmail to me.
Charles Ring
Aug 31, 2014, 9:26:41 PM8/31/14
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covered in many places including the USA. Also I don't favor firing them
from most jobs. I have no desire to deny them a life or a living. I see
them mostly as disabled. We make accommodations for the disabled but we
don't pretend that lacking a leg or eyes is "normal".
I. M. Normal
Aug 31, 2014, 9:55:01 PM8/31/14
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Western Worlds despise gays and economic numbers prove it.
HGTV promotes gays and freaks, most people hate it. May Company
kissed ass with gays. They are just about history. JC Penny
tried to use Ellen Degenerate and a queer from Apple to spur
growth failing miserably. Home Depot started promoting queers
and lost 10% of their yearly revenue directly to Lowes. Chick-
fil-A stood fast against you faggots and profits soared. Coke
stood fast against you faggots at the Sochi Olympics, even
banning your hate speech from their blogs - and profits soared.
The biggest telling sign of all is the current rebellion against
Hollywood faggots and their Jew banker enablers.
Bankers don't like losing money on bad movies that are based on
hateful gay agendas. All your faggot movies are money losers,
and even the non-fag movies are losing money because people
don't like gay producers who molest little boys and get away
with it.
You also might ask yourself why there are no faggot car
commercials.
> The nut cases who are bigots are gay people.
Fixed that for you.
"RamRod" <ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal> wrote:
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>
>
>
>
>
> "I. M. Normal" wrote in message
> news:84e47e84e7f8047f...@dizum.com...
>
> > You fags are really sore that you can't force legislation
> > compelling normal people to accept you.
>
>
>
> Gay people do not require legislation to make people accept them as the
> majority of the people in the Western Civilized worlds already accept them.
That's not true at all. The majority of people in civilized
> news:84e47e84e7f8047f...@dizum.com...
>
> > You fags are really sore that you can't force legislation
> > compelling normal people to accept you.
>
>
>
> Gay people do not require legislation to make people accept them as the
> majority of the people in the Western Civilized worlds already accept them.
Western Worlds despise gays and economic numbers prove it.
HGTV promotes gays and freaks, most people hate it. May Company
kissed ass with gays. They are just about history. JC Penny
tried to use Ellen Degenerate and a queer from Apple to spur
growth failing miserably. Home Depot started promoting queers
and lost 10% of their yearly revenue directly to Lowes. Chick-
fil-A stood fast against you faggots and profits soared. Coke
stood fast against you faggots at the Sochi Olympics, even
banning your hate speech from their blogs - and profits soared.
The biggest telling sign of all is the current rebellion against
Hollywood faggots and their Jew banker enablers.
Bankers don't like losing money on bad movies that are based on
hateful gay agendas. All your faggot movies are money losers,
and even the non-fag movies are losing money because people
don't like gay producers who molest little boys and get away
with it.
You also might ask yourself why there are no faggot car
commercials.
> The nut cases who are bigots are gay people.
Fixed that for you.
RamRod
Aug 31, 2014, 9:57:57 PM8/31/14
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"Charles Ring" wrote in message news:lu0c7i$5jr$1...@dont-email.me...
On 8/31/2014 1738, RamRod wrote:
>
>
> "Brother Love" wrote in message
> news:rnv60aph8p6v17pv7...@4ax.com...
>
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:47:19 +1000, "RamRod"
> <ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Brother Love" wrote in message
>> news:7jj40a1lsdrnc3b8i...@4ax.com...
>>
>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 04:09:46 +1000, "RamRod"
>> <ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> This nasty law means that gay children cannot be educated about their
>>>>>> sex,
>>>>>> and other children must not know that gay people exist..
>>>
>>>
>>
>>>>> Are you a child molester too? No child is gay. The onliest child that
>>>>> thinks there gay was molested by queers.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> So are you gay?
>>
>>
>
>>> Absolutely not! I'm a Christian not a queer.
>
>
>
>> Then you would have no idea how people are gay.
>
>> Ask most gay people and they will tell you that they were born gay, and
>> they know because that was the way they were born.
>
>
>
> I worked with a gay man who said he was so because his older brother
> molested him. By the time I met him he had all the stereotyped attributes
> of a gay man. In case you wondered, I never had any conflict with him.
> I also had a bisexual girlfriend. Her two sisters were straight but her
> two brothers were both gay. How likely is that if they are born that way?
In the second family you do not know what caused the 2 brothers to be gay.
In the first family you believe the one who says his brother caused it.
Personally I do not believe that was the cause, or why has he continued
having gay sex.
Heterosexual prisoners in gaol who have gay sex because they cannot have a
woman almost all go back to being heterosexual when the get out of gaol
Let us assume that was the reason. So you know ONE person that thinks he was
caused to be gay because his brother molested him.
Now there are around 300,000,000 people in the USA and if we are to believe
the CDC who make 2 statements the percentage of gay people in the USA is 2%
and 4% there would be around 6 million to 12 million gay people and you only
know what one thinks.............................
............................Get real.
BTW there is no stereotype attributes of gay men, with the acceptation that
like their own sex.
Gay men can be ultra masculine or feminine and anywhere in-between.
RamRod
Aug 31, 2014, 10:45:21 PM8/31/14
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"Charles Ring" wrote in message news:lu0c7i$5jr$1...@dont-email.me...
> I also had a bisexual girlfriend. Her two sisters were straight but her
> two brothers were both gay. How likely is that if they are born that way?
> She caught hepatitis A by drinking from her brother's glass while he was
> home from San Francisco. A good example of gay men's excess vulnerability
> to diseases caused by their lifestyle.
Here you are indication that hepatitis A is a disease that is causing heavy
infections in gay men in San Francisco
http://www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/Statistics/2012Surveillance/Table2.1.htm
Table 2.1 Reported cases of acute hepatitis A, by state ― United States,
2008–2012
Number of cases in 2012 in California
209
Now that is both heterosexual and homosexual and all of California.
Charles Ring
Aug 31, 2014, 11:48:44 PM8/31/14
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hepatitis B were ravaging gay men and softening them up for AIDS. I know
hepatitis A is an entirely different disease, but I also know that gay
men have excess vulnerability to many diseases. A totally unhealthy
lifestyle and AIDS just aggravated their dramatically shortened lifespan.
RamRod
Sep 2, 2014, 1:52:42 AM9/2/14
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"Charles Ring" wrote in message news:lu0qat$lli$1...@dont-email.me...
The way you wrote this indicated all gay people have a shortened lifestyle
which is a pile of crap.
If this in not another pile of your lies than prove that there was a a
greater lot of Hep "B" around in those days than now.
It is a facts that syphilis was rampart in the late forties and fifties but
is was amongst all Americans especially in the Southern states so much so
that people had to be tested in many states before they could get married.
Seeing gay people could not get married then it shows that it was a big
disease in heterosexuals.
If you want to know some real horror about syphilis in the USA look up the
Tuskegee syphilis experiment.
http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/classes/33d/projects/medicine/The%20Tuskegee%20Syphilis%20Study.htm
//Out of the 3,684 African Americans tested, 1,468 cases of syphilis were
found, and that number was narrowed down to 408 subjects for the test.
These men were told they had “bad blood,” and they were offered free medical
care and treatments. Although the main purpose of the study was to discover
the effects of untreated syphilis, the doctors continued to lead the
participants to believe that they were receiving treatment for “bad blood.”
In the second phase of the experiments, a control group of 200 men
was added as a comparison to the syphilitics. These men were also not
informed about the basis of the study, but instead were told that they would
be receiving “free treatment from government doctors.” Both the syphilitic
group and the control group were not to receive any medication or treatment
of any kind from local hospitals or doctors. Their names were put onto
lists given to local hospitals, and they were told not to treat the
patients. Instead, the participants had to schedule appointments with the
government doctors, and while they were told they were receiving penicillin,
in actuality they were just receiving aspirin or other ineffective means of
treatment\\
http://www.livescience.com/13002-7-absolutely-evil-medical-experiments-tuskegee-syphilis.html
(1)
The most famous lapse in medical ethics in the United States lasted for 40
years. In 1932, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,
the U.S. Public Health Service launched a study on the health effects of
untreated syphilis. Unfortunately for the unwitting participants, this study
involved, well, not treating syphilis.
The researchers tracked the progression of the disease in 399 black men in
Alabama (201 healthy men were also followed), telling them they were being
treated for "bad blood." In fact, the men never got adequate treatment, even
in 1947 when penicillin became the drug of choice to treat syphilis. It
wasn't until a 1972 newspaper article exposed the study to the public eye
that officials shut it down.
BTW you might see that they tested 3684 people and 1468 had syphilis showing
how much of the disease was around then.
RamRod
Sep 2, 2014, 2:51:58 AM9/2/14
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"I. M. Normal" wrote in message
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"RamRod" <ram...@truthonly.com.Sword of Baal> wrote:
>> Gay people do not require legislation to make people accept them as the
>> majority of the people in the Western Civilized worlds already accept
>> them.
> That's not true at all. The majority of people in civilized
> Western Worlds despise gays and economic numbers prove it.
Poll of gay marriage.
Australia
http://www.australianmarriageequality.org/who-supports-equality/a-majority-of-australians-support-marriage-equality/
Should gays be allowed to marry
Yes 64%
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/poll-shows-growing-support-for-samesex-marriage-20140714-3bxaj.html
A Crosby Textor poll, commissioned by Australian Marriage Equality, has
found that 72 per cent of Australians want same-sex marriage legalised,
while 77 per cent think Coalition MPs should be granted a conscience vote.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/fewer-men-than-women-support-gay-marriage-poll/story-fndo48ca-1226444358076?nk=956159479686023fd5d9cb8bb585a181
The Galaxy poll shows 64 per cent of people believe same-sex couples should
be allowed to marry - up two percentage points from February
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Britain
http://yougov.co.uk/news/2013/05/20/voters-back-same-sex-marriage/
Overall, YouGov’s latest poll for the Sunday Times finds that 54% of Britons
support ‘changing the law to allow same-sex couples to marry’.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-26773016
The poll of 1,007 people found 68% agreed gay marriage should be permitted,
with 26% opposing it
Canada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Canada
In 2012, a poll by Forum Research showed that 66.4% of Canadians approved of
legalized same-sex marriage, while 33.6% were opposed. Support for same-sex
marriage was highest in Quebec (72%) and British Columbia (70.2%), while
lowest in Alberta (45.6%).[
France
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_France
A May 2013 Ipsos poll found that 51% of respondents were in favour of
same-sex marriage and another 29% supported other form of recognition for
same-sex couples.[61]
A May 2013 Ifop poll found that 52% of respondents were in favour of
same-sex marriage and adoption rights for same-sex couples.[62]
A May 2013 Ifop poll for Antlantico found that 53% of respondents were in
favour of same-sex marriage and adoption rights for same-sex couples.[63]
A February 2014 BVA poll found that 61% of respondents were in favour of
same-sex marriage and 50% were in favour adoption rights for same-sex
couples.[64]
An April 2014 BVA poll found that 55% of respondents were in favour of
same-sex marriage and 48% were in favour adoption rights for same-sex
couples
Denmark
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Denmark
YouGov poll, conducted between 27 December 2012 and 6 January 2013, found
that 79% of Danes supported same-sex marriage, 16% were opposed and 6% had
no opinion
Europe
http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/27819558/m/4880096803001
A May 2013 online poll conducted by the French Institute of Public Opinion
(IFOP) found majorities in several Western European countries in favor of
marriage and adoption rights for same-sex couples, with those in the
Netherlands (85%), Germany (74%), Belgium and Spain (71% each) expressing
the most support. In Scotland, the percentage of people who favor same-sex
marriage has increased from 41% in 2002 t0 61% in 2010, according to the
latest Scottish Social Attitudes Survey.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/18/us-gaymarriage-poll-idUSBRE95H09T20130618
(Reuters) - Most adults in developed countries favor gay marriage or some
type of legal recognition for same-sex couples and think they should be able
to adopt children, according to an international poll released on Tuesday.
With the U.S. Supreme Court poised to rule on gay marriage this month and
France's recent decision to legalize same-sex unions, an Ipsos poll for
Reuters showed that 52 percent of people in 16 nations favor full marriage
equality for gays and 21 percent support legal recognition but not marriage.
Here is a URL from Pew research on European counties that the % of people
who think gays and lesbians should be able to live their own lives
http://www.pewresearch.org/files/2013/12/FT_europe-homosexuality-views.png
It rather shoots down I. M. Normal and Charles Rings ideas.
Bill Steele
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