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Pradipta (Chhando) Sarkar

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In article <4invi0$8...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, GUP...@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Arnab Gupta) writes:

|> HNya hNya, shei bhalo, aro aykta shuto khola jaak - Chhotobelar chhobi|
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|> Arnab
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Ei chhobigulo khub bhalo legechhilo :
Sabuj Dwiper Raja.
Cha(n)der Pahar.

3 rd tar nam kichhutei thik mone korte parchhi na :
Eta ekta chhoto chhele, baul gan kore, Kolkata-ye esechhe ... take
niye. Ekta darun gaan chhilo
- " Shahor ta-re golokdha(n)da, a(n)ndhar holo mon, ..... "
I'm sure some SCB netter will be able to remind me the name.
--
Pradipta Sarkar
psa...@iastate.edu

Arnab Gupta

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Sambit Basu writes:

>Rajiv Shukla writes:

>>Indrani DasGupta writes:


>>>Tarpor amader otuloniyo Teni-da and his constant put-downs of Pyala and
>>>Habul. Achha karo-r ki 'Chaarmurti' chhobita mone aacche? Tate shei 'tel
>>>diye mudi mekhe - khaabo toke' sceneta was absolutely hilarious. Also,

>>Khub mone porcche, asombhab rakam er silly, I am happy to say that
>>the original story didn't have any such ghastly things in it.

> Actually goppe chhilo. gaan-ta onyo chhilo. "ebaar kaali tomay
> khabo..." ebong taar shonge ghagra pore naach gojeshwor-er.

> Apnar happiness-ta maathe mere dilum bole du:hito.

>>>how about 'Podi-pishir Bormi Baksho'-r train scene-e Chhaya Debi aar
>>>Chinmoy Ray-er eke onno-ke 'chup' korte bola? Ei re, very sorry. Onno
>>>thread-e chole gelam.

>>Apni magazine theke cinema te chole elen kano? Besh to alochona hocchilo.

> Apni shobai-ke ato dhapaan kano bolun to? besh to bhalo-laga
> chhobi-r goppo shuru korechhilen Indranithakrun.

> Ashun to Indranithakrun amra onyo shuto khule chhobi-r
> golpo kori. tokhon Rajivbabu aste chaile-o khelte nebo
> na.

HNya hNya, shei bhalo, aro aykta shuto khola jaak - Chhotobelar chhobi|

Prothomei Ganeshaio nomo: kore shuru kora jaak:

1. GuGaBaBa : Notun kore ar...
2. Hirok Rajar deshe: Eta ki chhotoder chhobi?
3. Sonar kella: Shanghatik chhobi!
4. Joi Baba Phelunath: Shobcheye bhalo lagto sheshe Pheludar dum dum guli|
Shei loktake mone achhe - iya iya guli pholato?

Ebare aro aykta buri chhuye:

5. Bari thheke paliye: Du:kho holei Kanchon'er moto palate ichhey korto|

Onyogulote jaoa jak:

6. Safed Haati: Eta dekhe `Haati mera Sathi' dekhte boshechhilam baba'ke
tupi poriye| Pore she ki bipotti..|
7. Kabuliwala:
8. Otithi:
9. Aaj ka Robinhood: Eta bodhoi ektu boro boyeshe dekha

10. Sriman Prithwiraj: Kishore prem'er shohoj path

11. Charmurti: Oh!
12. Hirer Projapoti:

Er porer tinte dekhe k(n)ede bhashiyechhilam:

13. Behula-Lokhindor
14. Balok Sharatchandra: Shib Thakurer golai dole (?)
15. Joy: "E kotha rakhbo shoda mone..."

Bhishon hNeshechhilam porergulo dekhe:

16. Poriborton
17. Dushtu Mishti
18. Gopal BhNar

E chhara boro boro lokeder jiboni holey to dekhata pray `fundamental
right'er moto byapar chhilo| Kokhono kokhono lekhoker nameo cholto
tobe shob shomoi noi| Tin Konyar dui konya dekhe didi'r taDa kheye
kNadte kNadte paliye eshechhilam, mone achhe|

List'ta baDan kindly,

Arnab

Chaitali Basu

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On 20 Mar 1996, Arnab Gupta wrote:

> HNya hNya, shei bhalo, aro aykta shuto khola jaak - Chhotobelar chhobi|

> Prothomei Ganeshaio nomo: kore shuru kora jaak:

> 1. GuGaBaBa : Notun kore ar...
> 2. Hirok Rajar deshe: Eta ki chhotoder chhobi?
> 3. Sonar kella: Shanghatik chhobi!
> 4. Joi Baba Phelunath: Shobcheye bhalo lagto sheshe Pheludar dum dum guli|
> Shei loktake mone achhe - iya iya guli pholato?

> Ebare aro aykta buri chhuye:

> 5. Bari thheke paliye: Du:kho holei Kanchon'er moto palate ichhey korto|

Thik tai. Darun bhalo legechilo eta.

> Onyogulote jaoa jak:

> 6. Safed Haati: Eta dekhe `Haati mera Sathi' dekhte boshechhilam baba'ke
> tupi poriye| Pore she ki bipotti..|
> 7. Kabuliwala:

Ete Mini hishebe Tinku Thakur ashadharon.

> 8. Otithi:
> 9. Aaj ka Robinhood: Eta bodhoi ektu boro boyeshe dekha
> 10. Sriman Prithwiraj: Kishore prem'er shohoj path
> 11. Charmurti: Oh!
> 12. Hirer Projapoti:

> Er porer tinte dekhe k(n)ede bhashiyechhilam:

> 13. Behula-Lokhindor
> 14. Balok Sharatchandra: Shib Thakurer golai dole (?)
> 15. Joy: "E kotha rakhbo shoda mone..."

Ei section akta juDlum.

Swarno mojori : khoob baaje cinema kintu tate rajkonner haath pa shob
khule haowaye bheshe giyechilo.

> Bhishon hNeshechhilam porergulo dekhe:

> 16. Poriborton
> 17. Dushtu Mishti
> 18. Gopal BhNar

Borjatri ba Chirokumar Shobha-ke dhokano jaabe ei section-e?

> E chhara boro boro lokeder jiboni holey to dekhata pray `fundamental
> right'er moto byapar chhilo| Kokhono kokhono lekhoker nameo cholto
> tobe shob shomoi noi| Tin Konyar dui konya dekhe didi'r taDa kheye
> kNadte kNadte paliye eshechhilam, mone achhe|

Bidyasagar aar Deshbondhu : ei dutoi mone poDchhe apatato.

> List'ta baDan kindly,
>
> Arnab

Chaitali

Sambit Basu

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Arnab Gupta shobar sheshe likhechhe:

>List'ta baDan kindly,

Baaki aar ki rekhechho? Nehat ei thread khulbo bolechhilum
bole follow-up korchhi.

>1. GuGaBaBa : Notun kore ar...

>2. Hirok Rajar deshe: Eta ki chhotoder chhobi?

Lok-e to tai bole.

>3. Sonar kella: Shanghatik chhobi!

bhabte-i romancho hoy.

>4. Joi Baba Phelunath: Shobcheye bhalo lagto sheshe Pheludar dum dum guli|
> Shei loktake mone achhe - iya iya guli pholato?


Bishwosree.

>6. Safed Haati: Eta dekhe `Haati mera Sathi' dekhte boshechhilam baba'ke
> tupi poriye| Pore she ki bipotti..|

Tumi-o?

>7. Kabuliwala:
>8. Otithi:

Eta-o bodhoy thik bachchader chhobi noy.

>9. Aaj ka Robinhood: Eta bodhoi ektu boro boyeshe dekha

>10. Sriman Prithwiraj: Kishore prem'er shohoj path

Sayan dekhechho?

>11. Charmurti: Oh!
>12. Hirer Projapoti:

Eta abar ki chhobi?

>Er porer tinte dekhe k(n)ede bhashiyechhilam:

>13. Behula-Lokhindor
>14. Balok Sharatchandra: Shib Thakurer golai dole (?)

...bNoichi phol-er malika.
(tor) golay doDi ke poralo,
bolna gouri baalika...:)

>15. Joy: "E kotha rakhbo shoda mone..."

Eta puro pNachu chhobi chhilo.

Karur Alibaba-r kotha mone aachhe? Madhu Bose-Sadhana Bose-er
Alibaba. "ei bNaadi tui begum hobi, khowab dekhechhi?" Amar
jeebon-er bodhoy prothom chhobi.

>Arnab

Regards,
Sambit


Srabani Banerjee

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Sambit Basu writes


>>6. Safed Haati: Eta dekhe `Haati mera Sathi' dekhte boshechhilam baba'ke
>> tupi poriye| Pore she ki bipotti..|
>
> Tumi-o?

Tao to Arnab bolloi na je thakur-er cinema bole or baba-ke niye
`Satyam Shivam Sundaram' dekhtey gechhilo.

Regards,
Srabani


B. Bhattacharya

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Pradipta (Chhando) Sarkar) writes:

> 3 rd tar nam kichhutei thik mone korte parchhi na :
> Eta ekta chhoto chhele, baul gan kore, Kolkata-ye esechhe ... take
> niye. Ekta darun gaan chhilo
> - " Shahor ta-re golokdha(n)da, a(n)ndhar holo mon, ..... "
> I'm sure some SCB netter will be able to remind me the name.
>--
>Pradipta Sarkar

Hangsaraaj.

-Baidurya.

Pradipta ( Chhando ) Sarkar

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In article <4ipkcr$b...@news.iastate.edu>, psa...@iastate.edu (Pradipta (Chhando) Sarkar) writes:
|
|> Ei chhobigulo khub bhalo legechhilo :
|> Sabuj Dwiper Raja.
|> Cha(n)der Pahar.
|>
|> 3 rd tar nam kichhutei thik mone korte parchhi na :
|> Eta ekta chhoto chhele, baul gan kore, Kolkata-ye esechhe ... take
|> niye. Ekta darun gaan chhilo
|> - " Shahor ta-re golokdha(n)da, a(n)ndhar holo mon, ..... "
|> I'm sure some SCB netter will be able to remind me the name.
|

Joydeep Bhattacharya reminded me the name of the movie :

" HangsharAj ".

Thanks Joydeep.



Pradipta (Chhando) Sarkar.
--
Pradipta Sarkar
psa...@iastate.edu

Indrani DasGupta

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In article <4invi0$8...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
GUP...@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu says...

>
>
>Sambit Basu writes:
>
>>Rajiv Shukla writes:
>
>>>Indrani DasGupta writes:

Ekta chhobi dekhe ami prochoor keNdechhilam...Chhuti. Kintu eta bodhoy
thhik chhotoder chhobi noi. EchhaRa...Ranur Prothom Bhaag...bhishon
bhaalo legechhilo. Ektar naam kichhutei mone poRchhena...chhilo Biswajit,
Aparna, aar ekta chhoto chhele. Ekta Twist naacher drishyo chhilo. Keu
naamta mone korte paaden?

Indrani.
PS: Ei shuto-ta DAROON!!!


>
>
>>>>Tarpor amader otuloniyo Teni-da and his constant put-downs of Pyala
and
>>>>Habul. Achha karo-r ki 'Chaarmurti' chhobita mone aacche? Tate shei
'tel
>>>>diye mudi mekhe - khaabo toke' sceneta was absolutely hilarious.
Also,
>
>>>Khub mone porcche, asombhab rakam er silly, I am happy to say that
>>>the original story didn't have any such ghastly things in it.
>
>> Actually goppe chhilo. gaan-ta onyo chhilo. "ebaar kaali tomay
>> khabo..." ebong taar shonge ghagra pore naach gojeshwor-er.
>
>> Apnar happiness-ta maathe mere dilum bole du:hito.
>
>>>>how about 'Podi-pishir Bormi Baksho'-r train scene-e Chhaya Debi aar
>>>>Chinmoy Ray-er eke onno-ke 'chup' korte bola? Ei re, very sorry. Onno
>>>>thread-e chole gelam.
>
>>>Apni magazine theke cinema te chole elen kano? Besh to alochona
hocchilo.
>
>> Apni shobai-ke ato dhapaan kano bolun to? besh to bhalo-laga
>> chhobi-r goppo shuru korechhilen Indranithakrun.
>
>> Ashun to Indranithakrun amra onyo shuto khule chhobi-r
>> golpo kori. tokhon Rajivbabu aste chaile-o khelte nebo
>> na.
>

>HNya hNya, shei bhalo, aro aykta shuto khola jaak - Chhotobelar chhobi|
>
>Prothomei Ganeshaio nomo: kore shuru kora jaak:
>

>1. GuGaBaBa : Notun kore ar...
>2. Hirok Rajar deshe: Eta ki chhotoder chhobi?

>3. Sonar kella: Shanghatik chhobi!

>4. Joi Baba Phelunath: Shobcheye bhalo lagto sheshe Pheludar dum dum
guli|
> Shei loktake mone achhe - iya iya guli pholato?
>

>Ebare aro aykta buri chhuye:
>
>5. Bari thheke paliye: Du:kho holei Kanchon'er moto palate ichhey korto|
>

>Onyogulote jaoa jak:


>
>6. Safed Haati: Eta dekhe `Haati mera Sathi' dekhte boshechhilam baba'ke
> tupi poriye| Pore she ki bipotti..|

>7. Kabuliwala:
>8. Otithi:


>9. Aaj ka Robinhood: Eta bodhoi ektu boro boyeshe dekha
>
>10. Sriman Prithwiraj: Kishore prem'er shohoj path
>

>11. Charmurti: Oh!
>12. Hirer Projapoti:
>

>Er porer tinte dekhe k(n)ede bhashiyechhilam:
>
>13. Behula-Lokhindor
>14. Balok Sharatchandra: Shib Thakurer golai dole (?)

>15. Joy: "E kotha rakhbo shoda mone..."
>

>Bhishon hNeshechhilam porergulo dekhe:
>
>16. Poriborton
>17. Dushtu Mishti
>18. Gopal BhNar
>

>E chhara boro boro lokeder jiboni holey to dekhata pray `fundamental
>right'er moto byapar chhilo| Kokhono kokhono lekhoker nameo cholto
>tobe shob shomoi noi| Tin Konyar dui konya dekhe didi'r taDa kheye
>kNadte kNadte paliye eshechhilam, mone achhe|
>

Chaitali Basu

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On 20 Mar 1996, Pradipta (Chhando) Sarkar wrote:

> Ei chhobigulo khub bhalo legechhilo :
> Sabuj Dwiper Raja.
> Cha(n)der Pahar.

> 3 rd tar nam kichhutei thik mone korte parchhi na :
> Eta ekta chhoto chhele, baul gan kore, Kolkata-ye esechhe ... take
> niye. Ekta darun gaan chhilo

> - " Shahor ta-re golokdha(n)da, a(n)ndhar holo mon, ..... "

hNangsho Raaj.


> I'm sure some SCB netter will be able to remind me the name.

> --
> Pradipta Sarkar
> psa...@iastate.edu

Chaitali

Arnab Gupta

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Sambit Basu shobar shurute likhechhe:

>Arnab Gupta shobar sheshe likhechhe:

>>List'ta baDan kindly,

> Baaki aar ki rekhechho? Nehat ei thread khulbo bolechhilum
> bole follow-up korchhi.

Aha rag korle naki he?

>>1. GuGaBaBa : Notun kore ar...

>>2. Hirok Rajar deshe: Eta ki chhotoder chhobi?

> Lok-e to tai bole.

Eta chhotto chhotto biplobider chhobi|

>>3. Sonar kella: Shanghatik chhobi!

> bhabte-i romancho hoy.

>>4. Joi Baba Phelunath: Shobcheye bhalo lagto sheshe Pheludar dum dum guli|
>> Shei loktake mone achhe - iya iya guli pholato?


> Bishwosree.

Ar aykta lok chhilo, je shob sequence'er pore hotel'er manager
Satya Bandopadhyay'ke gombhir bhabe toale ityadi niye nalish
korto|

>>6. Safed Haati: Eta dekhe `Haati mera Sathi' dekhte boshechhilam baba'ke
>> tupi poriye| Pore she ki bipotti..|

> Tumi-o?

Tobe akhkhep khub aykta nei, ki bolo?

>>7. Kabuliwala:
>>8. Otithi:

> Eta-o bodhoy thik bachchader chhobi noy.

Ta oboshyo thik| Tobe Rabindranath'er golpo'ta pore chhotobela bhaloi
legechhilo| Chhobite dekhlam `Sagarika' style'e Tarapodo ar tar nayika
poroshpor'er dike takiye thhake|

>>9. Aaj ka Robinhood: Eta bodhoi ektu boro boyeshe dekha

>>10. Sriman Prithwiraj: Kishore prem'er shohoj path

> Sayan dekhechho?

>>11. Charmurti: Oh!
>>12. Hirer Projapoti:

> Eta abar ki chhobi?

Ami janina thik eta hall'e mukti peyechhilo kina, tobe ami eta TV'te
dekhechhilum|

E proshonge aro aykta chhobi mone pore gyalo| Etao mukti pay ni,
dekhechhilam CPM kora kakar kolyane, nam chhilo `Bandukbaaj'|
Na na dhishum dhishum kichhu na| Bhaloi legechhilo, keu dekhechhen
ki?

>>Er porer tinte dekhe k(n)ede bhashiyechhilam:

>>13. Behula-Lokhindor
>>14. Balok Sharatchandra: Shib Thakurer golai dole (?)

> ...bNoichi phol-er malika.


> (tor) golay doDi ke poralo,
> bolna gouri baalika...:)

>>15. Joy: "E kotha rakhbo shoda mone..."

> Eta puro pNachu chhobi chhilo.

Tokhon mairi heavy legechhilo, k(n)ede bhashiyechhilam|

> Karur Alibaba-r kotha mone aachhe? Madhu Bose-Sadhana Bose-er
> Alibaba. "ei bNaadi tui begum hobi, khowab dekhechhi?" Amar
> jeebon-er bodhoy prothom chhobi.

Sambit, tomar boyesh'ta janabe? Ei karone bolchhi je amio dutoi
dekhechhi, tobe kina chhotobela Robi Ghosh-Mithu Mukherjee'tai
dekhar shujog chhilo| Tumi ager'ta prothom release'er shomoi
dekhoni to?

Regards,
Arnab


Joydeep Bhattacharya

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Amar du-chaarte cinemar naam poDe gelo je gulo amaar besh bhalo
legechilo.

1) Srikanto o Indranath (young Srikanto'r character ta choto belai amake
khub naDa dito)

2) Iswarchandra Bidyasagar'er jibon obolombone ekta cinema besh bhalo
legechilo. Shei Michael ke taka pathano, lamp-post'er gaye boshe poDa,
tiki te doRi etc...

3) Athithi (... ei akaashe amaar mukti, aloye aloye..)

4) Arogya Niketan (with Bikash Roy and Subhendu), not really a chotoder
boi but somehow affected me deeply when I was ten or twelve.

-Joydeep
====================================================
Joydeep Bhattacharya
Department of Economics
Cornell University
Ithaca NY 14853-7601
Phone (607) 256 2310
Fax (607) 255 2818
E-mail: jb...@cornell.edu
====================================================


Sambit Basu

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Arnab writes:

>Sambit Basu shobar shurute likhechhe:

>>>2. Hirok Rajar deshe: Eta ki chhotoder chhobi?

>> Lok-e to tai bole.

>Eta chhotto chhotto biplobider chhobi|

chhoto biplobi-der, naki potential biplobi-ra jokhon chhoto
thaake, taader?

>>>4. Joi Baba Phelunath: Shobcheye bhalo lagto sheshe Pheludar dum dum guli|
>>> Shei loktake mone achhe - iya iya guli pholato?


>> Bishwosree.

>Ar aykta lok chhilo, je shob sequence'er pore hotel'er manager
>Satya Bandopadhyay'ke gombhir bhabe toale ityadi niye nalish
>korto|

"running hot water" paowa jaabe kina jigesh koray Satya
Banerjee haat neDe bolechhilen, "running servant paaben.
bolle-i chhute giye gorom jol ene debe."

>>>6. Safed Haati: Eta dekhe `Haati mera Sathi' dekhte boshechhilam baba'ke
>>> tupi poriye| Pore she ki bipotti..|

>> Tumi-o?

>Tobe akhkhep khub aykta nei, ki bolo?

Kintu SSS - ota-r jonne?

>>>8. Otithi:

>> Eta-o bodhoy thik bachchader chhobi noy.

>Ta oboshyo thik| Tobe Rabindranath'er golpo'ta pore chhotobela bhaloi
>legechhilo| Chhobite dekhlam `Sagarika' style'e Tarapodo ar tar nayika
>poroshpor'er dike takiye thhake|

:) :)

>>>10. Sriman Prithwiraj: Kishore prem'er shohoj path

>> Sayan dekhechho?

Sayan bodhoy amar opor chote gachhe. Tomader univ. theke
keu akta jigesh koro na, eta o dekhechhe kina?

>>>15. Joy: "E kotha rakhbo shoda mone..."

>> Eta puro pNachu chhobi chhilo.

>Tokhon mairi heavy legechhilo, k(n)ede bhashiyechhilam|

She kotha ami aar nijo-mukhe nai ba shikaar korlum.

>> Karur Alibaba-r kotha mone aachhe? Madhu Bose-Sadhana Bose-er
>> Alibaba. "ei bNaadi tui begum hobi, khowab dekhechhi?" Amar
>> jeebon-er bodhoy prothom chhobi.

>Sambit, tomar boyesh'ta janabe?

Baaro. Komti.

>Ei karone bolchhi je amio dutoi
>dekhechhi, tobe kina chhotobela Robi Ghosh-Mithu Mukherjee'tai
>dekhar shujog chhilo|

TV-te dekhano-r somoy TV-r ghore dhukte baaron chhilo. Ebong
Jadab Chakroborty-r proshnomala choushotti-r ak theke kuDi
obdi kore baba-ke dekhano-r hukum chhilo.

>Tumi ager'ta prothom release'er shomoi
>dekhoni to?

Dekhechhi ki? Thik mone poDchhe na.

Regards,
Sambit

ARINDAM CHATTERJEE

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Pradipta (Chhando) Sarkar wrote:

>
> In article <4invi0$8...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, GUP...@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Arnab Gupta) writes:
>
> |> HNya hNya, shei bhalo, aro aykta shuto khola jaak - Chhotobelar chhobi|
> [stuff deleted ...]
> |>
> |> Arnab

> |>
> |>
>
> Ei chhobigulo khub bhalo legechhilo :
> Sabuj Dwiper Raja.
> Cha(n)der Pahar.
>
> 3 rd tar nam kichhutei thik mone korte parchhi na :
> Eta ekta chhoto chhele, baul gan kore, Kolkata-ye esechhe ... take
> niye. Ekta darun gaan chhilo
> - " Shahor ta-re golokdha(n)da, a(n)ndhar holo mon, ..... "
> I'm sure some SCB netter will be able to remind me the name.

Tha name of this film is : Hansaraj

I believe the following names have been mistakenly omitted:
1) Char Murti ( Chinmoy Roy wsa the leading artist)
2) Bhombol Sardar (Actually I have not seen this film
but it is one of the best stories I have come across
in my life - in particular that the first part which is
also the most interesting one is related to Saratkalin
banga prokriti).
3) Podipisir Bormibaksho.

I have seen two other films ( I am not sure if they are
worth mentioning):
1) Hire-Manik
2) Arun Barun Kiranmala

Actually I want to mention another name : Aloi Phera where
Dipankar Dey was the leading actor. However this one somebody
may argue not really suitable for "chhotos".
> --
> Pradipta Sarkar
> psa...@iastate.edu

Rajiv Shukla

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Joydeep Bhattacharya (jb...@cornell.edu) wrote:
: Amar du-chaarte cinemar naam poDe gelo je gulo amaar besh bhalo
: legechilo.

: 1) Srikanto o Indranath (young Srikanto'r character ta choto belai amake
: khub naDa dito)

Excuse me, apni ki ashole Indranath r character r katha bolte chaicchen?
Jatodoor mone porcche young Srikanta r konoi bishesh character chilo na.
In fact Srikanata r whole life i kono naDa deowar moto character chilo na
IMO.

: 2) Iswarchandra Bidyasagar'er jibon obolombone ekta cinema besh bhalo

: legechilo. Shei Michael ke taka pathano, lamp-post'er gaye boshe poDa,
: tiki te doRi etc...

Probably oi galpo gulo beshir bhag i gooool, janen to? :)


: 3) Athithi (... ei akaashe amaar mukti, aloye aloye..)

Hmmmm, apni ki khub escapist der pachondo karen, forgive me for asking
a personal question.

Rajiv


--
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ra...@ctt.bellcore.com I don't speak for my
Bell Communications Research employer.
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Arnab Gupta

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Sambit Basu writes:

>>>>2. Hirok Rajar deshe: Eta ki chhotoder chhobi?

>>> Lok-e to tai bole.

>>Eta chhotto chhotto biplobider chhobi|

> chhoto biplobi-der, naki potential biplobi-ra jokhon chhoto
> thaake, taader?

Thik sure noi, tobe boro boro biplobi'der khetrey `potential biplobi'
shobdo'ta bodhoi opomanjonok hote pare| Tenara biplobi hoyei jonman
ebong chhotobela thekei t(n)ader shei oloukik shokti'r modhyey
modhyey prokash ghote| Pore Amar Chitro Kathai eshob amra poDe
anondo pai o udbuddho hoi|

>>>>4. Joi Baba Phelunath: Shobcheye bhalo lagto sheshe Pheludar dum dum guli|
>>>> Shei loktake mone achhe - iya iya guli pholato?


>>> Bishwosree.

>>Ar aykta lok chhilo, je shob sequence'er pore hotel'er manager
>>Satya Bandopadhyay'ke gombhir bhabe toale ityadi niye nalish
>>korto|

> "running hot water" paowa jaabe kina jigesh koray Satya
> Banerjee haat neDe bolechhilen, "running servant paaben.
> bolle-i chhute giye gorom jol ene debe."

:) :)

>>>>6. Safed Haati: Eta dekhe `Haati mera Sathi' dekhte boshechhilam baba'ke
>>>> tupi poriye| Pore she ki bipotti..|

>>> Tumi-o?

>>Tobe akhkhep khub aykta nei, ki bolo?

> Kintu SSS - ota-r jonne?

Ei mairi bolchhi, ota Srabani dhop merechhe| Ami jotodur jaani thakuma'r
kole boshey `Dhrubo' dekha chhaDa bhoktimulok chhobi'r dike baba ar pa
baranni| SSS dekhini botey, tobey dekhar ichhey chhilo nishchoi|

>>>>8. Otithi:

>>> Eta-o bodhoy thik bachchader chhobi noy.

>>Ta oboshyo thik| Tobe Rabindranath'er golpo'ta pore chhotobela bhaloi
>>legechhilo| Chhobite dekhlam `Sagarika' style'e Tarapodo ar tar nayika
>>poroshpor'er dike takiye thhake|

> :) :)

Tapan Sinha aykta bhuter goppo baniyechhilen, dekhechho?
Rabindranath'er chhaya obolombone|

>>>>10. Sriman Prithwiraj: Kishore prem'er shohoj path

>>> Sayan dekhechho?

> Sayan bodhoy amar opor chote gachhe. Tomader univ. theke
> keu akta jigesh koro na, eta o dekhechhe kina?

Ami jigesh korle cholbe? Tahole:
Sayanbabu, Sambit shudhochhe eta aapni dekhechhen kina|

>>>>15. Joy: "E kotha rakhbo shoda mone..."

>>> Eta puro pNachu chhobi chhilo.

>>Tokhon mairi heavy legechhilo, k(n)ede bhashiyechhilam|

> She kotha ami aar nijo-mukhe nai ba shikaar korlum.

:)

>>> Karur Alibaba-r kotha mone aachhe? Madhu Bose-Sadhana Bose-er
>>> Alibaba. "ei bNaadi tui begum hobi, khowab dekhechhi?" Amar
>>> jeebon-er bodhoy prothom chhobi.

>>Sambit, tomar boyesh'ta janabe?

> Baaro. Komti.

Kobar barlo komlo ektu bolo, shubidha hoi|

>>Ei karone bolchhi je amio dutoi
>>dekhechhi, tobe kina chhotobela Robi Ghosh-Mithu Mukherjee'tai
>>dekhar shujog chhilo|

> TV-te dekhano-r somoy TV-r ghore dhukte baaron chhilo. Ebong
> Jadab Chakroborty-r proshnomala choushotti-r ak theke kuDi
> obdi kore baba-ke dekhano-r hukum chhilo.

Bhodrolok bhari beroshik to!

>>Tumi ager'ta prothom release'er shomoi
>>dekhoni to?

> Dekhechhi ki? Thik mone poDchhe na|

Dom dite bhule jachho mone hochhey, naki spring'tai kete gyachhe?

Regards,
Arnab.

Joydeep Bhattacharya

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In article <4j12c4$7...@athos.cc.bellcore.com>, rajiv@magazine says...
[....]

>
>: 2) Iswarchandra Bidyasagar'er jibon obolombone ekta cinema besh bhalo
>: legechilo. Shei Michael ke taka pathano, lamp-post'er gaye boshe poDa,
>: tiki te doRi etc...
>
>Probably oi galpo gulo beshir bhag i gooool, janen to? :)

Hmmm. Thik jantam na. Apni sure je shob gool? In any case, chotobelai oto
chool-chera bichar aami ontoto kortam na. Ja dekhato, dekhtam.

>: 3) Athithi (... ei akaashe amaar mukti, aloye aloye..)
>
>Hmmmm, apni ki khub escapist der pachondo karen, forgive me for asking
>a personal question.
>
>Rajiv

Chotobelai Athithi cinema ta dekhe bhalo legechilo bole jiggesh korchen?
Tokhon escapism mane bujhtam na. TachaDa choto boyeshe ke na chaye baba'r
kaan mola, school'er "hometask", phata cambis ball, 42 bus'er bheeD....
cheDre-chuDre palatey! Dekhun na, ei buDo boyeshe shei to desh cheDe
polatok er motoN ghure bedacchi. Shetao escapism, tai na??

:-)

Chaitali Basu

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On 23 Mar 1996, Rajiv Shukla wrote:

> Joydeep Bhattacharya (jb...@cornell.edu) wrote:
> : Amar du-chaarte cinemar naam poDe gelo je gulo amaar besh bhalo
> : legechilo.
>
> : 1) Srikanto o Indranath (young Srikanto'r character ta choto belai amake
> : khub naDa dito)
>
> Excuse me, apni ki ashole Indranath r character r katha bolte chaicchen?
> Jatodoor mone porcche young Srikanta r konoi bishesh character chilo na.
> In fact Srikanata r whole life i kono naDa deowar moto character chilo na
> IMO.

Prithibir ardhek manush-I oi Srikanta-r moto. Apni bolchhen tader karur
'character' neyi? Ebaar badhyo hochhi jiggesh korte je 'character' kaake
bole ektu bole deben?

> : 2) Iswarchandra Bidyasagar'er jibon obolombone ekta cinema besh bhalo
> : legechilo. Shei Michael ke taka pathano, lamp-post'er gaye boshe poDa,
> : tiki te doRi etc...
>
> Probably oi galpo gulo beshir bhag i gooool, janen to? :)

Bishesh kore oi Ganga peronor galpo-ta nishondehe..:-)

> : 3) Athithi (... ei akaashe amaar mukti, aloye aloye..)
>
> Hmmmm, apni ki khub escapist der pachondo karen, forgive me for asking
> a personal question.

Apni non? Also forgive me for doing the same.

> Rajiv

Chaitali

Chaitali Basu

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On 23 Mar 1996, Joydeep Bhattacharya wrote:

> >: 2) Iswarchandra Bidyasagar'er jibon obolombone ekta cinema besh bhalo
> >: legechilo. Shei Michael ke taka pathano, lamp-post'er gaye boshe poDa,
> >: tiki te doRi etc...
> >
> >Probably oi galpo gulo beshir bhag i gooool, janen to? :)
>

> Hmmm. Thik jantam na. Apni sure je shob gool? In any case, chotobelai oto
> chool-chera bichar aami ontoto kortam na. Ja dekhato, dekhtam.

Shudhu cinema-te? Aar chotobelaye? Ami to bastobeyo akhono kori na. Ki
labh bolun mithye kina bichhar kore? Sheshe shob mithye beriye poDle ki
rokom mon kharap hoye jaye. Tai na?

Rajiv, apnake praye gaye poDe akta advice dichhi. Ektu bichar kom korun
dekhben kamon shob jinishkei bhalo mone hochhe. Emni kore shob jinish-ke
kharap bolle amra jayi kothaye bolun to?

> -Joydeep

Chaitali

sayan bhattacharyya

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In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.960324131957.4082C-100000@spcm4>,

Chaitali Basu <chaitali@spcm4> wrote:
>
>Rajiv, apnake praye gaye poDe akta advice dichhi. Ektu bichar kom korun
>dekhben kamon shob jinishkei bhalo mone hochhe. Emni kore shob jinish-ke
>kharap bolle amra jayi kothaye bolun to?

Darned good advice. But, at the same time, this is a dangerous advice
if carried too far.

What if we end up making so little "bichar" that we end up considering
everything, including oppression and injustice, as "bhalo"? If we end
up believing in the Orwellian slogan from 1984, "Freedom is Slavery"?


"Sob jinishke bhalo mone howa " moTe-o bhalo lokshmon noy, kenona sob
jinish bhalo noy!


-Sayan.

P.S. Yes, I know you said what you said in a different context.

Shubu Mukherjee

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>>>>> In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.960324125823.4082A-100000@spcm4>, Chaitali Basu <chaitali@spcm4> writes:

CB> Prithibir ardhek manush-I oi Srikanta-r moto. Apni bolchhen tader karur
CB> 'character' neyi? Ebaar badhyo hochhi jiggesh korte je 'character' kaake
CB> bole ektu bole deben?

This reminds me of an anecdote I heard from my brother-in-law.

This incident happened in South Point somewhere in the 70s. There
were rumors that two class XI students brought a gun and knife to
school to fight a battle over a girl! Somehow the rector Satikanta
Guha came to know of this. But he couldn't find out who the culprits
were. So he suspended the entire section and lined them up in the
library. The little kids from class VI would come and laugh at the
bearded fellows from class XI -- quite a site that is. The rector was
furious. The entire class XI was tense, not sure how the rector would
react or how long they would be suspended. There was pin-drop silence
except for the rector's voice rattling through the library shelves.

"You all lose characters! You don't even have the guts to admit who
brought the weapons", the rector barked. To everyone's dismay and
surprise one nerdy-looking fellow put up his hand. Some of the
students decided to beat him up after school. However, with a total
anti-climax this guy said, "Sir, there is nothing called a 'lose'
character. Either there are good characters or bad characters. I
felt it necessary to correct you!" :-) The rectors jaw fell right
there! :-) :-)

-Shubu

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-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Shubu Mukherjee Univeristy of Wisconsin-Madison, Computer Sciences

Helle Bunzel

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In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.960324131957.4082C-100000@spcm4>,
chaitali@spcm4 says...

>
>On 23 Mar 1996, Joydeep Bhattacharya wrote:
>
>> >: 2) Iswarchandra Bidyasagar'er jibon obolombone ekta cinema besh
bhalo
>> >: legechilo. Shei Michael ke taka pathano, lamp-post'er gaye boshe
poDa,
>> >: tiki te doRi etc...
>> >
>> >Probably oi galpo gulo beshir bhag i gooool, janen to? :)
>>
>> Hmmm. Thik jantam na. Apni sure je shob gool? In any case, chotobelai
oto
>> chool-chera bichar aami ontoto kortam na. Ja dekhato, dekhtam.
>
>Shudhu cinema-te? Aar chotobelaye? Ami to bastobeyo akhono kori na. Ki
>labh bolun mithye kina bichhar kore? Sheshe shob mithye beriye poDle ki
>rokom mon kharap hoye jaye. Tai na?
[...]
>Chaitali

Boyesher sathe sathe manusher innate scepticism beDe othe. Thik ki na?
Tai aajkal bastobeo oneik beshi critical and cynical hoye gechi. Tobe
thiki bolecho (en?), Rajiv er statement ta poDe mon kharap ektu hoyechilo
bote. Hajaar hauk, ek kaale bhabtam je "Biddesagor'er" motoN aamio "bhalo
chele" hobo. Tobe shey aaj theke beesh bochor agekar kotha! Ekhon aar oi
shob "illusion'e" mone hoye bhugi na.

:-)

Joydeep


Rajiv Shukla

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Joydeep Bhattacharya (jb...@cornell.edu) wrote:
: In article <4j12c4$7...@athos.cc.bellcore.com>, rajiv@magazine says...
: [....]

: Chotobelai Athithi cinema ta dekhe bhalo legechilo bole jiggesh korchen?

: Tokhon escapism mane bujhtam na. TachaDa choto boyeshe ke na chaye baba'r
: kaan mola, school'er "hometask", phata cambis ball, 42 bus'er bheeD....
: cheDre-chuDre palatey! Dekhun na, ei buDo boyeshe shei to desh cheDe
: polatok er motoN ghure bedacchi. Shetao escapism, tai na??

: :-)

Apni kato chotobelaye oi cinema ta dekhecchen, akebare sishu aboshthaye
to ota bhalo laga r katha nay, ami 16 bacchor bayeshe dekhecchi,
Tarapada ke bhalo lage ni in general, sabai ke cheDe chuDe dite irresponsible
bhabe paliye jaowa ta irritating mone hoyecchilo.

Rajiv

: -Joydeep


: ====================================================
: Joydeep Bhattacharya
: Department of Economics
: Cornell University
: Ithaca NY 14853-7601
: Phone (607) 256 2310
: Fax (607) 255 2818
: E-mail: jb...@cornell.edu
: ====================================================

Rajiv Shukla

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Chaitali Basu (chaitali@spcm4) wrote:
: On 23 Mar 1996, Rajiv Shukla wrote:


: Prithibir ardhek manush-I oi Srikanta-r moto. Apni bolchhen tader karur
: 'character' neyi? Ebaar badhyo hochhi jiggesh korte je 'character' kaake
: bole ektu bole deben?

I don't understand what's that supposed to mean, for myself I can only say that
I despise Srikanto and I don't find any similarity whatsoever atleast with me.
As for "ardhek-1" manush I should say nothing but I am afraid you're being
unfair by comparing them with Srikanto.

: >
: > Hmmmm, apni ki khub escapist der pachondo karen, forgive me for asking
: > a personal question.

: Apni non? Also forgive me for doing the same.

Again, I don't know what do you mean, I can assure you that I have no
fascination for escapists, as for being one myself, I am not the best person
to answer that question if you know what I mean.

Rajiv

: > Rajiv

: Chaitali

Debjeet Pal

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In article <4ipkcr$b...@news.iastate.edu>, psa...@iastate.edu (Pradipta (Chhando) Sarkar) writes:
|
|> Ei chhobigulo khub bhalo legechhilo :
|> Sabuj Dwiper Raja.
|> Cha(n)der Pahar.


Ei duto amaaro khub priyo. Ei thread-a ullekhito praye shob chobi-guloi
repeat korer shujog hoyechay , kintu Cha(n)der Pahar chobiti amaar er ekbar
dekhar khub shokh; specially oi gaan o ganner scene-ta

Ei chotto chotto paye cholte cholte thik
Pouchay jabo
Oi chNader pahar, dekhtay pabo........

Sabuj Dwiper Raja:

Dwiper modhdhay bad guys-der shongay Shontu-ur marpit-er scene amaar
ekhono mone poray.......

Gotobochor-a kolkata-ay giye "Kakababu firay elen ?" (naam-ta bodhoy ektu
bhul holo) dekhay besh mon kharap hoye gelo. kothaye Sabuj Dwiper-er kakababu
er kothaye Shobhoshachi. Dostidar-der tv serial gulotay Shobhoshachi-ir
acting amaar besh bhalo lagto kintu cinema-a eki acting!!


: Ekta chhobi dekhe ami prochoor keNdechhilam...Chhuti. Kintu eta bodhoy

: thhik chhotoder chhobi noi. EchhaRa...Ranur Prothom Bhaag...bhishon
: bhaalo legechhilo. Ektar naam kichhutei mone poRchhena...chhilo Biswajit,
: Aparna, aar ekta chhoto chhele. Ekta Twist naacher drishyo chhilo. Keu
: naamta mone korte paaden?

: Indrani.
: PS: Ei shuto-ta DAROON!!!

: >> Actually goppe chhilo. gaan-ta onyo chhilo. "ebaar kaali tomay


: >> khabo..." ebong taar shonge ghagra pore naach gojeshwor-er.
: >
: >> Apnar happiness-ta maathe mere dilum bole du:hito.


Teni-da kintu amaar boi poray beshi enjoyable legaychay........
: >
: >Prothomei Ganeshaio nomo: kore shuru kora jaak:
: >
: >1. GuGaBaBa : Notun kore ar...

Gupi Gain Bagha Bain

Gupi bagha firay alo

: >2. Hirok Rajar deshe: Eta ki chhotoder chhobi?

Durdanto cinema, amaar to eta chotoder chobi bolai monay hoy.....

Rajar dui jamai-ir shongay Soumitra-or prothom dekha paharer guhaye.
Robi Ghosh bolchay amra magic jani......bolay dujonay tali bajiay ek
pahar thekay er ek pahar-a cholay gelo.........

Dialogue-gulor tulona hoy na........

: >3. Sonar kella: Shanghatik chhobi!

My all time favourite!!!!!!!!!

: >4. Joi Baba Phelunath: Shobcheye bhalo lagto sheshe Pheludar dum dum

: guli|
: > Shei loktake mone achhe - iya iya guli pholato?


Captain Spark er or chader ghortar kotha mone ahchay?

: >
: >Ebare aro aykta buri chhuye:


: >
: >5. Bari thheke paliye: Du:kho holei Kanchon'er moto palate ichhey korto|
: >
: >Onyogulote jaoa jak:

: >
: >6. Safed Haati: Eta dekhe `Haati mera Sathi' dekhte boshechhilam baba'ke


: > tupi poriye| Pore she ki bipotti..|

: >7. Kabuliwala:
: >8. Otithi:
: >9. Aaj ka Robinhood: Eta bodhoi ektu boro boyeshe dekha
: >
: >10. Sriman Prithwiraj: Kishore prem'er shohoj path

eta er ek classic.........kichu dialogue ami boro boyesh-ao dekhe
upobhog koraychi. Prithwiraj-er bondhuder pakhir haath theke chithi
udhdhaar korer scene-ta chomotkar.....

: >
: >11. Charmurti: Oh!
: >12. Hirer Projapoti:
: >
: >Er porer tinte dekhe k(n)ede bhashiyechhilam:


: >
: >13. Behula-Lokhindor
: >14. Balok Sharatchandra: Shib Thakurer golai dole (?)

: >15. Joy: "E kotha rakhbo shoda mone..."


Ram-er Sumoti.........darun emotional mone hoyechilo


: >
: >Bhishon hNeshechhilam porergulo dekhe:


: >
: >16. Poriborton
: >17. Dushtu Mishti
: >18. Gopal BhNar
: >
: >E chhara boro boro lokeder jiboni holey to dekhata pray `fundamental
: >right'er moto byapar chhilo| Kokhono kokhono lekhoker nameo cholto
: >tobe shob shomoi noi| Tin Konyar dui konya dekhe didi'r taDa kheye
: >kNadte kNadte paliye eshechhilam, mone achhe|
: >
: >List'ta baDan kindly,
: >
: >Arnab

: >
: >


Uttom-er ekta cinema-er naam kichutayi maathay aschay na. Ekta scene mone
porchay -

Hood khola garitay ekti bachcha meye ke niye Uttom gaan gaitay gaitay
raasta diye cholaychay........Gaan-a Pokhkhiraaj-er ullekh chilo.....


Apu-ur Songshar
Srikanto o Indranath

Debjeet.

Pradipta ( Chhando ) Sarkar

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In article <4j8omu$6...@sun.rhbnc.ac.uk>, debjeet@platon ( Debjeet Pal) writes:
|> In article <4ipkcr$b...@news.iastate.edu>, psa...@iastate.edu (Pradipta (Chhando) Sarkar) writes:
|> |
|> |> Ei chhobigulo khub bhalo legechhilo :
|> |> Sabuj Dwiper Raja.
|> |> Cha(n)der Pahar.
|>

|> Sabuj Dwiper Raja:


|>
|> Dwiper modhdhay bad guys-der shongay Shontu-ur marpit-er scene amaar
|> ekhono mone poray.......
|>
|> Gotobochor-a kolkata-ay giye "Kakababu firay elen ?" (naam-ta bodhoy ektu
|> bhul holo) dekhay besh mon kharap hoye gelo. kothaye Sabuj Dwiper-er kakababu
|> er kothaye Shobhoshachi. Dostidar-der tv serial gulotay Shobhoshachi-ir
|> acting amaar besh bhalo lagto kintu cinema-a eki acting!!
|>
|>
|>

|> Debjeet.
"Kakababu Fire Elen" notun boi bujhi? Ei prosonge ekta
katha mone pore gelo. Satyajit Roy -er galpo gulo niye Delhi theke ekta
Hindi serial hoto. Sandip Roy -er direction. Amra jara Satyajit-er chhobit-e
Soumitra-r abhinoy dekhe dekhe abhyosto hoye giyechhilam, tader besh
baje legechhilo. Keu ki serial-tar nam mone rekhechhen?
Pradipta (Chhando) Sarkar

--
Pradipta Sarkar
psa...@iastate.edu

Chaitali Basu

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On 25 Mar 1996, Rajiv Shukla wrote:

> Apni kato chotobelaye oi cinema ta dekhecchen, akebare sishu aboshthaye
> to ota bhalo laga r katha nay, ami 16 bacchor bayeshe dekhecchi,
> Tarapada ke bhalo lage ni in general, sabai ke cheDe chuDe dite irresponsible
> bhabe paliye jaowa ta irritating mone hoyecchilo.
>
> Rajiv

Thik kotha otate Tarapada irresponsible. Kintu shotti kore bolun-to majhe
majhe amra shobai irresponsible hoye jayi naaki? Responsibility-r shonge
kichhu curtailment of freedom thake. Shegulo eDate chayi naaki kakhono
kakhono? Otake akdom irritating bole dilen bote, kintu oitai nijerayo
kore feli. Akhon jodi bolen je ota apnar kakhono hoye na tobe nishondehe
bolbo je apni amader shadharonder theke ektu onnorokom.

Chaitali

Chaitali Basu

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On 25 Mar 1996, Helle Bunzel wrote:

> Boyesher sathe sathe manusher innate scepticism beDe othe. Thik ki na?
> Tai aajkal bastobeo oneik beshi critical and cynical hoye gechi. Tobe
> thiki bolecho (en?), Rajiv er statement ta poDe mon kharap ektu hoyechilo

^^^^^^^^
Khoob bhalo laglo. Naam dhore tumi bola - etayi bhalo. Apni aNgya kore
galpo ami jibone korini. Akhon ei eder pallaye poDe nijer naam-er pashe
debi, debi noy, thakrun, babu aro ki shob dekhte hochhe. Akjono akhono
shabhabik bhabe dakchhe dekhe shotti bhalo laglo.

Achha aar akta kotha. Critical haowa nahoye thik achhe. Kintu cynical
haowa ki bhalo? Kharap-ta mene niyeo to positive aspect rakha jaye
towards life - tai na?

> Joydeep

Chaitali

Debjeet Pal

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Pradipta ( Chhando ) Sarkar (psa...@iastate.edu) wrote:

: --
: Pradipta Sarkar
: psa...@iastate.edu


BNancharam-er Bagaan

Pother PNachali...............


er to chotobelar chotoder chobi mathay aschay na. ebar ektu
chotobelar kishore-kishori der / boroder chobir list niay alochonay
nama jay ki......


chotobela-y kichu bhalo tv-serial o to hoto, tar ekta thread kemon hoi?

Radio programme.......

kolkata (ba jar jekhane chotobela ketechay) -er bichitro
smriti/ghotona/obhiggota.........

memoirs of school-days (school related articles)...........

Debjeet.

Indrani DasGupta

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In article <SHUBU.96M...@providence.cs.wisc.edu>,
sh...@cs.wisc.edu says...

>
>
>>>>>> In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.960324125823.4082A-100000@spcm4>,
Chaitali Basu <chaitali@spcm4> writes:
>
>CB> Prithibir ardhek manush-I oi Srikanta-r moto. Apni bolchhen tader
karur
>CB> 'character' neyi? Ebaar badhyo hochhi jiggesh korte je 'character'
kaake
>CB> bole ektu bole deben?
>
>This reminds me of an anecdote I heard from my brother-in-law.
>
>This incident happened in South Point somewhere in the 70s. There
>were rumors that two class XI students brought a gun and knife to
>school to fight a battle over a girl! Somehow the rector Satikanta
>Guha came to know of this. But he couldn't find out who the culprits
>were. So he suspended the entire section and lined them up in the
>library. The little kids from class VI would come and laugh at the
>bearded fellows from class XI -- quite a site that is. The rector was
>furious. The entire class XI was tense, not sure how the rector would
>react or how long they would be suspended. There was pin-drop silence
>except for the rector's voice rattling through the library shelves.
>
>"You all lose characters!
You don't even have the guts to admit who
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>brought the weapons", the rector barked. To everyone's dismay and
>surprise one nerdy-looking fellow put up his hand. Some of the
>students decided to beat him up after school. However, with a total
>anti-climax this guy said, "Sir, there is nothing called a 'lose'
>character. Either there are good characters or bad characters. I
>felt it necessary to correct you!" :-) The rectors jaw fell right
>there! :-) :-)
>
>-Shubu
>
>
Too bad Mr. Satikanta Guha didn't care to care to learn from his own
advice. Anybody remember the Surupa Guha case?

Indrani.

>
>
>--
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------

Shubu Mukherjee

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>>>>> In article <4jcf4a$k...@paladin.american.edu>, ID2...@american.edu (Indrani DasGupta) writes:

IDG> Too bad Mr. Satikanta Guha didn't care to care to learn from his own
IDG> advice. Anybody remember the Surupa Guha case?

Whether Satikanta Guha was involved in the murder or not is debatable.

I wonder how many people know how great a guy Satikanta Guha was. The
very fact that he established this giant institution called South
Point is itself a proof of his tremendous achievement. He started off
penniless. He went from door to door begging for money for his
school. He attracted people like Satyajit Ray, Utpal Dutta,
N. Viswanathan to teach in his school. He hired people like Anjan
Baran Dasgupta, Ashu-babu, etc., who are famous beyond the boundaries
of South Point [Let's not start on the ADG, Ashu-babu controversy.
The fact is they cared for South Point; they may have gone beyond
limits at times.]

Today South Point is not what it used to be. But that's not Satikanta
Guha's fault.

I remember Satikanta Guha lamenting one day when we went to invite him
for a school celebration. He said the golden days of South Point was
when water dripped from its roofs. It was when the teachers of South
Point cared for their students. He was almost in tears at that point.
I guess he could see the downfall of this instition, which used to be
his dream once. He even wanted to build a boarding house for this
school. The land is still there, I believe, somewhere towards Salt
Lake.

Satikanta Guha was a dreamer. Unfortunately, his decendant Indranath
Guha was too unworthy of the responsiblity handed to him. That's the
tragedy of South Point.

-Shubu
--

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Arnab Gupta

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Shubu Mukherjee writes:

>IDG> Too bad Mr. Satikanta Guha didn't care to care to learn from his own
>IDG> advice. Anybody remember the Surupa Guha case?

>Whether Satikanta Guha was involved in the murder or not is debatable.

>I wonder how many people know how great a guy Satikanta Guha was. The
>very fact that he established this giant institution called South
>Point is itself a proof of his tremendous achievement. He started off
>penniless. He went from door to door begging for money for his
>school. He attracted people like Satyajit Ray, Utpal Dutta,
>N. Viswanathan to teach in his school. He hired people like Anjan
>Baran Dasgupta, Ashu-babu, etc., who are famous beyond the boundaries
>of South Point [Let's not start on the ADG, Ashu-babu controversy.
>The fact is they cared for South Point; they may have gone beyond
>limits at times.]

>Today South Point is not what it used to be. But that's not Satikanta
>Guha's fault.

Is it so? As far as I know the downfall of this great institution
started very much during Satikanta Guha's time. South Point was
already a large money making machine and was fast moving towards
that coveted honour of being Asia's most populated school. The great
names that you mention left South Point long back. Mr. Vishwanathan
was at Xaviers, though I am not sure when he left. The other two, who
probably left even earlier, were behind the foundation of another
(not so large) school in Calcutta-Patha Bhavan. And with them left
a whole lot of prominent persons including Chinmohon and Uma
Shehanobish. The latter was the first headmistress of Patha Bhavan.
The reason of this split is often ascribed to the `business minded'
philosophy of the authority which looked upon the school as its
personal property.

Thanks,
Arnab.

Joydeep Bhattacharya

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In article <4jbdbc$d...@sun.rhbnc.ac.uk>, debjeet@platon says...
[...]

> er to chotobelar chotoder chobi mathay aschay na. ebar ektu
>chotobelar kishore-kishori der / boroder chobir list niay alochonay
>nama jay ki......

Bangladesh'e kishore-kishori der niye chobi hoyeche? Mone hoye na.
(exception hoito Picnic, Prothom kodom phul). Jodi na dhoren shei shob
bangla boi, jekhane Tarun Kumar, Rabi Ghosh et al. "half-pantul" pore,
khoka sheje school'e baNdramo korche! Maya Mriga cinema ta te erokhom
shob scene chilo. Cinema te bangalider favorite subject chilo daktari;
prochur boite hero-heroine daktari poDche dekhano hoto. Ordhek shomoi
tara daktari kom poDto, last bench'e boshe gaan tai beshi hoto " khoti ki
na hoye aaj poDbe, materia medicar kabyo...". Ei shob cinema dekhei mone
hoye Rajiv tar shiddhante pouncheche!! Can't blame him!

Apnader emon kichu cinema'r kotha mone poDe je gulo choto belai dekhe
darun bhalo legechilo, kintu boDo boyesh'e dekhe aar temonti lageni?

> chotobela-y kichu bhalo tv-serial o to hoto, tar ekta thread kemon
hoi?

Ekta serial mone poDche: Chokher Aloye (Starring Basanta Choudhury). Aami
Hindi serial gulo beshi pochondo kortam.

> Radio programme.......

P3 rohoshyo series, Boroline'r shongshar, robbar dupurer bangla natok,
Shonibar rat egarotar shomoi Choyon, ....

[...]

>Debjeet.

Rajiv Shukla

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Mar 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/29/96
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Tarapada r mentality r sange ami in general bangalider mentality r anek
mil pai are sei jonnyo aro beshi irritating mone hay.
Oi rakom escapism dekhate dekhate i aj bangali ra picchiye gacche.

Rajiv

Rajiv Shukla

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In article <4jbdbc$d...@sun.rhbnc.ac.uk> debjeet@platon ( Debjeet Pal) writes:
>Pradipta ( Chhando ) Sarkar (psa...@iastate.edu) wrote:
>
>: In article <4j8omu$6...@sun.rhbnc.ac.uk>, debjeet@platon ( Debjeet Pal) writes:
>
> BNancharam-er Bagaan

Eta chotoder??
>
> Pother PNachali...............

Eta o cchotoder? ei cchotoder dekhte iccha korcche!

>
>
> er to chotobelar chotoder chobi mathay aschay na. ebar ektu
>chotobelar kishore-kishori der / boroder chobir list niay alochonay
>nama jay ki......
>
>
> chotobela-y kichu bhalo tv-serial o to hoto, tar ekta thread kemon hoi?

Apni kato cchoto ke jane? Ami 1976 theke T.V dekhcchi, kono bhalo
choto der programme to mone korte parcchi na, naki apni
"Chiching Fa(n)k" are "Hare karo Kamba" ke bhalo bole chalate chaicchen?
Chotoder programme bhalo kore karar jonnyo je dharaner imagination darkar
hay seta amader bhalo ashe na, let's face it.

Rajiv Shukla

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In article <4jef6p$e...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> GUP...@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Arnab Gupta) writes:
>>Guha's fault.
>
>Is it so? As far as I know the downfall of this great institution
>started very much during Satikanta Guha's time. South Point was
>already a large money making machine and was fast moving towards
>that coveted honour of being Asia's most populated school. The great
>names that you mention left South Point long back. Mr. Vishwanathan
>was at Xaviers, though I am not sure when he left. The other two, who
>probably left even earlier, were behind the foundation of another
>(not so large) school in Calcutta-Patha Bhavan. And with them left
>a whole lot of prominent persons including Chinmohon and Uma
>Shehanobish. The latter was the first headmistress of Patha Bhavan.
>The reason of this split is often ascribed to the `business minded'
>philosophy of the authority which looked upon the school as its
>personal property.
>
>Thanks,
>Arnab.
>

When I passed Madhyamik in 1984 the tution fee at Patha Bhawan was
around Rs. 110 for class XI-XII science stream students.
The upper portion of the H.S Unit of this school used to be rented
sometimes for marriage and other ceremonies.
Says a lot, doesn't it?

Arnab Gupta

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Rajiv Shukla writes:

>>>Guha's fault.
>>
>>Is it so? As far as I know the downfall of this great institution
>>started very much during Satikanta Guha's time. South Point was
>>already a large money making machine and was fast moving towards
>>that coveted honour of being Asia's most populated school. The great
>>names that you mention left South Point long back. Mr. Vishwanathan
>>was at Xaviers, though I am not sure when he left. The other two, who
>>probably left even earlier, were behind the foundation of another
>>(not so large) school in Calcutta-Patha Bhavan. And with them left
>>a whole lot of prominent persons including Chinmohon and Uma
>>Shehanobish. The latter was the first headmistress of Patha Bhavan.
>>The reason of this split is often ascribed to the `business minded'
>>philosophy of the authority which looked upon the school as its
>>personal property.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Arnab.
>>

>When I passed Madhyamik in 1984 the tution fee at Patha Bhawan was
>around Rs. 110 for class XI-XII science stream students.
>The upper portion of the H.S Unit of this school used to be rented
>sometimes for marriage and other ceremonies.
>Says a lot, doesn't it?

About what?

My point was that the `tragedy of South Point' (As Shubu Mukhrjee referred to
it) started very much during the time of Satikanta Guha. I am sorry if you
missed it. Hope you get it right this time.

Regards,
Arnab.


Joydeep Bhattacharya

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In article <4jgpgd$8...@athos.cc.bellcore.com>, ra...@ctt.bellcore.com
says...
[...]

>Ami 1976 theke T.V dekhcchi, kono bhalo
>choto der programme to mone korte parcchi na, naki apni
>"Chiching Fa(n)k" are "Hare karo Kamba" ke bhalo bole chalate chaicchen?
>Chotoder programme bhalo kore karar jonnyo je dharaner imagination
darkar

^^^^^^^^^^^^


>hay seta amader bhalo ashe na, let's face it.
>
>Rajiv

Shudhu imagination ke dosh dicchen keno? Poisao dorkar oi vivid
imagination ke bastob'e porinoto korbar jonye. Apnar mone ache, Satyajit
Ray ekbar chotoder jonye ekta sci-fi boi banate cheyechilen. Deshe ekta
sponsor chilona. Ogotya tini Hollywood'er dorjai jan. Tar pore ki hoye
thik janina. Ektu hush-hush byapar. Oneike bole Spielberg naki Ray'r
script "churi" kore ET banaye. Golpo naki "Aaro Baro" theke newa
(possibly "Bonku babu'r bondhu"). Shotyi-mitthyae janina.

Tai amader deshe quiz show chaDa imaginative kono program toiri hoina.
Ekhankar PBS'e bacchader program dekhben. Graphics aar special effects'e
bhorti. Deshe to oi cardboard'er plackard e "chinching phaNk" likhe kaaj
chaliye dewa hoye!

Oboshyo goto paaNch bochor'e situation improve kore thakte pare.

Rajiv Shukla

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Not really, if you read your original post carefully you'll know that
you did hint that Patha Bhawan was created because of some prominent
persons' disgust at the business mindedness of Satikanto or whoever.
First of all I am not sure if I'd call Mr. N Vishwanathan or Utpal Dutt
for that matter, a great name, secondly there might have been other reasons
for this separation, mainly ego problems among some egotistical personalities
whom you so graciously described as great names.

Rajiv
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rajiv Shukla My opinions are mine.
ra...@ctt.bellcore.com I don't speak for my
Bell Communications Research employer.

----------------------------------------------------------------------


Debjeet Pal

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Rajiv Shukla (ra...@ctt.bellcore.com) wrote:

: In article <4jbdbc$d...@sun.rhbnc.ac.uk> debjeet@platon ( Debjeet Pal) writes:
: >Pradipta ( Chhando ) Sarkar (psa...@iastate.edu) wrote:
: >
: >: In article <4j8omu$6...@sun.rhbnc.ac.uk>, debjeet@platon ( Debjeet Pal) writes:
: >
: > BNancharam-er Bagaan
:
: Eta chotoder??
: >
: > Pother PNachali...............
:
: Eta o cchotoder? ei cchotoder dekhte iccha korcche!

BNancharam-er Bagaan o Pother PNachali dutoi certified "U", in that respect
dutoi chotora dekhte paray. Chhotobelar chhobi manayi je choto bachchader
chobi hotay hobe eta ami bujhini.

: >
: >
: > er to chotobelar chotoder chobi mathay aschay na. ebar ektu


: >chotobelar kishore-kishori der / boroder chobir list niay alochonay
: >nama jay ki......
: >
: >
: > chotobela-y kichu bhalo tv-serial o to hoto, tar ekta thread kemon hoi?

: Apni kato cchoto ke jane? Ami 1976 theke T.V dekhcchi, kono bhalo
???????????????????????? excuse me!!

: choto der programme to mone korte parcchi na, naki apni


: "Chiching Fa(n)k" are "Hare karo Kamba" ke bhalo bole chalate chaicchen?
: Chotoder programme bhalo kore karar jonnyo je dharaner imagination darkar

: hay seta amader bhalo ashe na, let's face it.
??????????????

Apni to chesta korer agayi haar shikaar koray nichchen. ato
pesimistic hotay amaar bhalo lagay na.

Amaar chotobelay "Taro Porbon", "Uronchondi", "Gora", "Khandan" aro
onek serial hoto, ja amaar bhaloi lagto........

: Rajiv


Debjeet.

Arnab Gupta

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Rajiv Shukla writes:

>Not really, if you read your original post carefully you'll know that
>you did hint that Patha Bhawan was created because of some prominent
>persons' disgust at the business mindedness of Satikanto or whoever.

You are wrong! I did not *hint* `that Patha Bhawan was created because
of some prominent persons' disgust...', I clearly stated that the
reason of the split is often attributed to the business mindedness of the
school authority. Paying Rs. 110 per month fee or renting out the
upper portion of the science building of *Patha Bhavan* has little
to do with whether the tragedy of South Point started during the time
of Satikanta Guha or not. And regarding `great minds' behind the
creation of Patha Bhavan, I simply extended the facts that Shubu Mukherjee
stated.

>First of all I am not sure if I'd call Mr. N Vishwanathan or Utpal Dutt
>for that matter, a great name,

That's your problem. Shubu Mukherjee may help you with that. As for me,
I simply quoted the adjective he used.

I am a bit surprised you left out the third name too!


> secondly there might have been other reasons
>for this separation, mainly ego problems among some egotistical personalities
>whom you so graciously described as great names.

Well, it's surprising that Patha Bhawan did not break up even
though this bunch of `some egotistical personalities whom'I `so graciously
described as great names' assembled together. BTW, does your list of
`egotistical personalities' include Satyajit Ray too, or am I being
gracious in calling him `great'?

Regards,
Arnab.


sayan bhattacharyya

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Apr 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/3/96
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Rajiv Shukla wrote:

>>First of all I am not sure if I'd call Mr. N Vishwanathan or Utpal Dutt
>>for that matter, a great name,

I don't care about this discussion about South Point, but I have to say
that Utpal Dutt was indeed a great personality. He (along with Shambhu
Mitra) was to Bengali theater what Satyajit Ray was to Bengali film.

As playwright, actor and director of People's Little Theater, who gave
us such unforgettable plays like "Kallol", "Barricade" and "Titu Meer",
Utpal Dutt's place in history is assured.

Finally, Utpal Dutt was not one of the many Bengali armchair intellectuals,
but he was an activist who did not hesitate to take to the streets when
necessary. In his inimitable words, "samprodayikotar biruddhe shudhu gan
ar natok korlei cholbe na; dorkar hole mar-dhor-o korte hobe!" There is
the story of how, during the communal-riot-torn forties, he was riding
a bus to a rehearsal for his group. In the bus a group of goons ganged
up on a Muslim man and started beating him up. Dutt, who had a powerful
physique by Bengali standards, saved the victim's life by beating up the
attackers all by himself, took the man home, and THEN took another bus
to reach the rehearsal in time.

Yes, Utpal Dutt was a man who DID practise what he preached :-)

-Sayan.


-Sayan.

P.S. I recall from a previous thread that Rajiv said that he did not
care about Bengali group theater, so I am not surprised.

Arnab Gupta

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Sayan Bhattacharya writes:

>I don't care about this discussion about South Point, but I have to say
>that Utpal Dutt was indeed a great personality. He (along with Shambhu
>Mitra) was to Bengali theater what Satyajit Ray was to Bengali film.

>As playwright, actor and director of People's Little Theater, who gave
>us such unforgettable plays like "Kallol", "Barricade" and "Titu Meer",
>Utpal Dutt's place in history is assured.

>Finally, Utpal Dutt was not one of the many Bengali armchair intellectuals,
>but he was an activist who did not hesitate to take to the streets when
>necessary. In his inimitable words, "samprodayikotar biruddhe shudhu gan
>ar natok korlei cholbe na; dorkar hole mar-dhor-o korte hobe!" There is
>the story of how, during the communal-riot-torn forties, he was riding
>a bus to a rehearsal for his group. In the bus a group of goons ganged
>up on a Muslim man and started beating him up. Dutt, who had a powerful
>physique by Bengali standards, saved the victim's life by beating up the
>attackers all by himself, took the man home, and THEN took another bus
>to reach the rehearsal in time.

>Yes, Utpal Dutt was a man who DID practise what he preached :-)


I recall reading somewhere that Utpal Datta was arrested and then
released from the jail during emergency on a personal request from
Satyajit Ray to the then Prime Minister. `Our theater demands him',
Ray wrote. On his release however, Utpal Datta was quick to leave the
city during those critical days and join the Merchant-Ivory crew for the
shooting of `Guru'.

Regards,
Arnab.

p.s: 1)The facts are stated from memory. So please correct me if there is
a mistake.
2)I have no problems in calling Utpal Datta `great' because to me he
was a great artist.

sayan bhattacharyya

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In article <4ju83k$o...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,

Arnab Gupta <GUP...@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>
>I recall reading somewhere that Utpal Datta was arrested and then
>released from the jail during emergency on a personal request from
>Satyajit Ray to the then Prime Minister. `Our theater demands him',
>Ray wrote. On his release however, Utpal Datta was quick to leave the
>city during those critical days and join the Merchant-Ivory crew for the
>shooting of `Guru'.

I haven't heard this story before, but it must be remembered that
he acted in films (sometimes in awful films) because (like the rest
of us) he needed to make a living. That was his only source of income,
out of which he sustained not only his family but partially his
theater group as well. A professional artist needs to meet his
commitments professionally.


-Sayan.


eh...@imperium.net

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Apr 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/3/96
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GUP...@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Arnab Gupta) wrote:
Does anyone have a vidoe tape (NTSC or PAL ) of the plays: Kallol,
Barricade or Titu Meer. I will pay for shipping & handling cost. I
want to make a copy for myself. Thanks in advance.


Ehsan
>Sayan Bhattacharya writes:

>>I don't care about this discussion about South Point, but I have to say
>>that Utpal Dutt was indeed a great personality. He (along with Shambhu
>>Mitra) was to Bengali theater what Satyajit Ray was to Bengali film.

>>As playwright, actor and director of People's Little Theater, who gave
>>us such unforgettable plays like "Kallol", "Barricade" and "Titu Meer",
>>Utpal Dutt's place in history is assured.

>>Finally, Utpal Dutt was not one of the many Bengali armchair intellectuals,
>>but he was an activist who did not hesitate to take to the streets when
>>necessary. In his inimitable words, "samprodayikotar biruddhe shudhu gan
>>ar natok korlei cholbe na; dorkar hole mar-dhor-o korte hobe!" There is
>>the story of how, during the communal-riot-torn forties, he was riding
>>a bus to a rehearsal for his group. In the bus a group of goons ganged
>>up on a Muslim man and started beating him up. Dutt, who had a powerful
>>physique by Bengali standards, saved the victim's life by beating up the
>>attackers all by himself, took the man home, and THEN took another bus
>>to reach the rehearsal in time.

>>Yes, Utpal Dutt was a man who DID practise what he preached :-)

>I recall reading somewhere that Utpal Datta was arrested and then
>released from the jail during emergency on a personal request from
>Satyajit Ray to the then Prime Minister. `Our theater demands him',
>Ray wrote. On his release however, Utpal Datta was quick to leave the
>city during those critical days and join the Merchant-Ivory crew for the
>shooting of `Guru'.

>Regards,

sayan bhattacharyya

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Apr 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/4/96
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In article <4judtk$5...@news.imperium.net>, <eh...@imperium.net> wrote:

>Does anyone have a vidoe tape (NTSC or PAL ) of the plays: Kallol,
>Barricade or Titu Meer. I will pay for shipping & handling cost. I
>want to make a copy for myself. Thanks in advance.

I don't know if video recordings exist of Kallol or Titu Meer. However,
Calcutta Doordarshan made a video recording of "Barricade" a few months
before Utpal Dutt's death.

Although Dutt is no more, these plays (and others) are still performed
regularly in Calcutta by the theater group he founded : People's Little
Theater (PLT). Arguably PLT is one of the best theater groups in Calcutta
today and boasts such magnificent actors as Satya Bandyopadhyay and
Shobha Sen (Dutt's wife, incidentally) among others. Do check out some
PLT productions the next time you visit Calcutta.

-Sayan.


Rajiv Shukla

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: Sayan Bhattacharya writes:
: >necessary. In his inimitable words, "samprodayikotar biruddhe shudhu gan

: >ar natok korlei cholbe na; dorkar hole mar-dhor-o korte hobe!" There is

Joker naaki?

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