Saudi education system creating Jihadis ?

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Whole cities are being destroyed which will cost trillions of
dollars to repair. Repent and convert back to glorious female idol
worshipping and hand mad male monotheism back to the Saudis

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http://www.dawn.com/news/1136173/errant-afghan-taliban-tweet-shows-spokesmans-location-as-pakistan

Errant Afghan Taliban tweet shows spokesman's location as Pakistan
KABUL: An apparently errant tweet by the Taliban's spokesman in
Afghanistan gave his location as being in Pakistan.

On Friday, a tweet by Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid claiming an
attack included geolocation information that suggested he sent the
message from Sindh, Pakistan.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1136205/pakistani-taliban-declare-allegiance-to-is-militants

Pakistani Taliban declare allegiance to IS militants
DERA: The Pakistani Taliban declared allegiance to Islamic State on
Saturday and ordered militants across the region to help the Middle
Eastern jihadist group in its campaign to set up a global Islamic
caliphate.

Islamic State, which controls swathes of land in Syria and Iraq, has
been making inroads into South Asia, which has traditionally been
dominated by local Taliban insurgencies against both the Pakistan and
Afghanistan governments.

The announcement comes after a September move by al Qaeda chief, Ayman
al-Zawahri, to name former Taliban commander Asim Umar as the �emir�
of a new South Asia branch of the network that masterminded the 2001
attacks on the United States.

Although there is little evidence of a firm alliance yet between IS
and al Qaeda-linked Taliban commanders, IS activists have been spotted
recently in Peshawar distributing pamphlets praising the group.

IS flags have also been seen at street rallies in Indian-administered
Kashmir. The trend has been of growing concern to global powers
struggling to keep up with the fast-changing nature of the
international insurgency.

In a message marking the Muslim holy festival of Eid al-Adha, the
Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) said they fully supported IS goals.

�Oh our brothers, we are proud of you in your victories. We are with
you in your happiness and your sorrow,� TTP spokesman Shahidullah
Shahid said in a statement sent to Reuters by email from an unknown
location.

�In these troubled days, we call for your patience and stability,
especially now that all your enemies are united against you. Please
put all your rivalries behind you ... All Muslims in the world have
great expectations of you ... We are with you, we will provide you
with Mujahideen (fighters) and with every possible support.�

The statement, released in Urdu, Pashto and Arabic, was sent after
Islamic State militants beheaded British aid worker Alan Henning in a
video posted on Friday, triggering condemnation by the British and US
governments.

It also came despite recent speculation that the Taliban leadership,
whose goal is to topple the government and set up a Sharia state, is
actually wary of IS, which is driven by different ambitions that have
little to do with South Asia.

The Pakistani Taliban, funded by local as well as foreign charity
donations from wealthy supporters in the Gulf and elsewhere, operate
separately from the Afghan insurgents of the same name, but are
loosely aligned with them.

There are concerns about further turmoil in the region as most US-led
foreign troops withdraw from Afghanistan this year, with groups like
the Haqqani network likely to exploit the security vacuum to
strengthen their hold on Afghan regions.

The Haqqani network, despite being based in Pakistan, is narrowly
focused on its insurgency in Afghanistan and has not commented on
IS-related developments.

The TTP has been beset by bitter internal rivalries over the past
year, with the influential Mehsud tribal faction of the group refusing
to accept the authority of Mullah Fazlullah, who came to power in late
2013.

IS, in an effort to extend its global reach, could exploit these
rivalries to its advantage, wading into a region ripe with fierce
anti-Western ideology and full of young unemployed men ready to take
up guns and fight for Islam.

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tp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11140860/Qatar-and-Saudi-Arabia-have-ignited-time-bomb-by-funding-global-spread-of-radical-Islam.html

Qatar and Saudi Arabia 'have ignited time bomb by funding global
spread of radical Islam'
Qatar and Saudi Arabia have ignited a "time bomb" by funding the
global spread of radical Islam, according to a former commander of
British forces in Iraq.
General Jonathan Shaw, who retired as Assistant Chief of the Defence
Staff in 2012, told The Telegraph that Qatar and Saudi Arabia were
primarily responsible for the rise of the extremist Islam that
inspires Isil terrorists.
The two Gulf states have spent billions of dollars on promoting a
militant and proselytising interpretation of their faith derived from
Abdul Wahhab, an eighteenth century scholar, and based on the Salaf,
or the original followers of the Prophet.
But the rulers of both countries are now more threatened by their
creation than Britain or America, argued Gen Shaw. The Islamic State
of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) has vowed to topple the Qatari and Saudi
regimes, viewing both as corrupt outposts of decadence and sin.
So Qatar and Saudi Arabia have every reason to lead an ideological
struggle against Isil, said Gen Shaw. On its own, he added, the West's
military offensive against the terrorist movement was likely to prove
"futile".
"This is a time bomb that, under the guise of education, Wahhabi
Salafism is igniting under the world really. And it is funded by Saudi
and Qatari money and that must stop," said Gen Shaw. "And the question
then is 'does bombing people over there really tackle that?' I don't
think so. I'd far rather see a much stronger handle on the ideological
battle rather than the physical battle."

Gen Shaw, 57, retired from the Army after a 31-year career that saw
him lead a platoon of paratroopers in the Battle of Mount Longdon, the
bloodiest clash of the Falklands War, and oversee Britain's withdrawal
from Basra in southern Iraq. As Assistant Chief of the Defence Staff,
he specialised in counter-terrorism and security policy.

All this has made him acutely aware of the limitations of what force
can achieve. He believes that Isil can only be defeated by political
and ideological means. Western air strikes in Iraq and Syria will, in
his view, achieve nothing except temporary tactical success.

When it comes to waging that ideological struggle, Qatar and Saudi
Arabia are pivotal. "The root problem is that those two countries are
the only two countries in the world where Wahhabi Salafism is the
state religion � and Isil is a violent expression of Wahabist
Salafism," said Gen Shaw.

"The primary threat of Isil is not to us in the West: it's to Saudi
Arabia and also to the other Gulf states."

Both Qatar and Saudi Arabia are playing small parts in the air
campaign against Isil, contributing two and four jet fighters
respectively. But Gen Shaw said they "should be in the forefront" and,
above all, leading an ideological counter-revolution against Isil.

The British and American air campaign would not "stop the support of
people in Qatar and Saudi Arabia for this kind of activity," added Gen
Shaw. "It's missing the point. It might, if it works, solve the
immediate tactical problem. It's not addressing the fundamental
problem of Wahhabi Salafism as a culture and a creed, which has got
out of control and is still the ideological basis of Isil � and which
will continue to exist even if we stop their advance in Iraq."

Gen Shaw said the Government's approach towards Isil was fundamentally
mistaken. "People are still treating this as a military problem, which
is in my view to misconceive the problem," he added. "My systemic
worry is that we're repeating the mistakes that we made in Afghanistan
and Iraq: putting the military far too up front and centre in our
response to the threat without addressing the fundamental political
question and the causes. The danger is that yet again we're taking a
symptomatic treatment not a causal one."

Gen Shaw said that Isil's main focus was on toppling the established
regimes of the Middle East, not striking Western targets. He
questioned whether Isil's murder of two British and two American
hostages was sufficient justification for the campaign.

"Isil made their big incursion into Iraq in June. The West did
nothing, despite thousands of people being killed," said Gen Shaw.
"What's changed in the last month? Beheadings on TV of Westerners. And
that has led us to suddenly change our policy and suddenly launch air
attacks."

He believes that Isil might have murdered the hostages in order to
provoke a military response from America and Britain which could then
be portrayed as a Christian assault on Islam. "What possible advantage
is there to Isil of bringing us into this campaign?" asked Gen Shaw.
"Answer: to unite the Muslim world against the Christian world. We
played into their hands. We've done what they wanted us to do."

However, Gen Shaw's analysis is open to question. Even if they had the
will, the rulers of Saudi Arabia and Qatar may be incapable of leading
an ideological struggle against Isil. King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia is
91 and only sporadically active. His chosen successor, Crown Prince
Salman, is 78 and already believed to be declining into senility. The
kingdom's ossified leadership is likely to be paralysed for the
foreseeable future.

Meanwhile in Qatar, the new Emir, Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani, is only 34
in a region that respects age. Whether this Harrow and
Sandhurst-educated ruler has the personal authority to lead an
ideological counter-revolution within Islam is doubtful.

Given that Saudi Arabia and Qatar almost certainly cannot do what Gen
Shaw believes to be necessary, the West may have no option except to
take military action against Isil with the aim of reducing, if not
eliminating, the terrorist threat.

"I just have a horrible feeling that we're making things worse. We're
entering into this in a way we just don't understand," said Gen Shaw.
"I'm against the principle of us attacking without a clear political
plan."


Mujahid later sent a tweet Saturday describing the location leak as an
�enemy plot�.

He also offered his Afghan telephone number to confirm his identity
and wrote: �With full confidence, I can say that I am in my own
country.�

Twitter says such geolocation data is based on latitude and longitude
data or other information provided by users at the time of their
message.

In an explanation of geolocation, Twitter itself warns: �Remember,
once you post something online, it's out there for others to see�


http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/twitter-provides-one-of-the-few-forums-in-which-saudis-can-discuss-what-they-really-feel--and-it-says-they-blame-the-clergy-for-isis-9774884.html

What is the connection between Saudi Arabia and the rise of the
Islamic State (Isis) militants? Did the Saudi state and the Gulf
monarchies foster the growth of Isis and other jihadi movements in
Syria only to find they had created a Frankenstein monster that today
threatens the political status quo? Is the House of Saud itself in
danger? Such questions are increasingly asked around the world, not
least in Saudi Arabia, as the government appears to reverse course by
joining the US-run bombing campaign against Isis in Syria.
What is the connection between Saudi Arabia and the rise of the
Islamic State (Isis) militants? Did the Saudi state and the Gulf
monarchies foster the growth of Isis and other jihadi movements in
Syria only to find they had created a Frankenstein monster that today
threatens the political status quo? Is the House of Saud itself in
danger? Such questions are increasingly asked around the world, not
least in Saudi Arabia, as the government appears to reverse course by
joining the US-run bombing campaign against Isis in Syria.

How do people in Saudi Arabia, outside the ruling elite, view Isis and
its demand for their allegiance? Ordinary Saudis are best placed to
judge the extent to which Wahhabi ideology, the Wahhabi clergy and the
Saudi education system have contributed to the creation and growth of
Isis. Hitherto, the rigorous control of media and information in Saudi
Arabia has meant that popular views, dissident or approving, are
seldom heard.

Control over opinion is tight, but it is not total. Twitter provides
one of the few forums in which Saudis can discuss what they really
feel, which may explain why use of Twitter is more common in the
Kingdom than in the US or China, taking into account the different
levels of population. A fascinating analysis of attitudes to Isis in
Saudi Arabia, as revealed by tweets, has just been carried out by Dr
Fouad J Kadhem, a researcher at the Centre of Academic Shia Studies in
London, in a draft paper to be published soon.

Many, though by no means all Saudis, applauded during the summer as
Isis swept through northern Iraq and eastern Syria. Mani'a bin Nasir
al-Mani tweeted approvingly: "The great land of Allah belongs neither
to kings nor to nations. Those who deserve the caliphate are those who
implement the Sharia of Allah on the earth and on people. Apostates
and traitors deserve nothing but the sword." Later, al-Mani himself
goes to Syria to join the forces of Islamic State.

Those commenting on events in the months since Isis took Mosul on 10
June are conscious that Saudi Arabia will not remain immune from the
crisis. One hashtag is titled: "what do you do if Isis enters Saudi
Arabia". It should be explained that tweets refer to Isis as "Daesh",
after the Arab acronym of its name, or simply to "Islamic State".
Supporters of Isis often express antagonism towards the Saudi
government and suggest that Isis has many sympathisers within the
Kingdom. Abdul Hakim al-Falih writes that "by the will of Allah, Abu
Bakr al-Baghdadi [the leader of Isis and self-declared caliph]
accompanied by the soldiers of the Islamic caliphate, to teach the
[Saudi] police a proper Eid [religious festival]."

If there are Isis supporters in Saudi Arabia, how numerous are they? A
person calling himself Azf Minfarad declares "no need [for Isis] to
enter �Our country is full of them". A similar point is made by "Fata
al-Arab": "Islamic State is on the Saudi borders and its supporters
inside Saudi Arabia are more than its organised members and armed
fighters."

With regard to the ideology of Isis, several people comment that this
has long been present in Saudi Arabia. "Luma" says: "It's normal: all
our life we have lived with Isis and its thoughts, its schools and its
curriculum."

Evidence of the similarity between Wahhabism and Isis is that in the
third of Syria seized by Isis, it is plagiarising Saudi textbooks for
use in schools. A few Saudis think there is poetic justice in the
threat facing their country, one person calling himself "Aqil Hur"
(Free Mind) saying simply "magic rebounds on the magician" or, in
other words, the tables have turned.

Education and religious policy � and the Wahhabi clergy � are widely
blamed for spreading extremism. Souad al-Shimmary replies to his own
question "Where did Daesh come from?" saying "it's our product
returned to us". Rajah al-Jihni puts the blame squarely on the
education system in Saudi. He says, "your schools are the ones that
produce Daesh � what are you waiting for when you seek this
educational policy?"

There are interesting critical comments about the case of Faisal
Shaman al-Anizy, a Saudi doctor who joined Isis in Iraq. Many condemn
him for taking part in fighting against innocent people and blame
Wahhabi preachers for turning him into a suicide bomber. Abdullah
al-Kwalit tweets "you [the Saudi government] should punish these
snakes [preachers] � Allah dam[n] them". And Halimah asks what was it
that turned "a doctor who treats patients into a killer who bombed the
bodies of innocent people".

The Wahhabi clergy are not given to self-criticism, but Adil
al-Kalbani, a Wahhabi shaikh, who has for many years led prayers as an
Imam of the Holy Shrine in Mecca, says that "Isis is a Salafi
[fundamentalist] offshoot � a reality we should confront with
transparency". Commenting on this admission, Abu Hamza al-Masa'ary
says that IS is the fruit of "the tree of Wah[h]abi preaching".

But it is the Saudi education system that critics return to again and
again. Wael al-Qaim says "they did not teach me that one day what we
are learning will be implanted by Daesh and its offshoots". Somebody
else suggests the Saudi state borrow a curriculum from neighbouring
Oman which teaches "tolerance and religious pluralism" in order to
eliminate Isis ideology. A more radical commentator, "Arabic Batman",
says changing the education curriculum is not enough and instead calls
for "kicking the al-Saud out of the country".

Tweeters from Saudi Arabia's Shia minority say that they feel excluded
and discriminated against. One recent issue is a Saudi Ministry of
Education order to withdraw a book designed for elementary schools
that accidentally showed a Shia religious man on the front cover. Naji
al-Zayed says that "the good thing about this incident is that it
revealed the hypocrisy of [the claim there is] equality among [Saudi]
citizens and the reality of sectarian discrimination". To this, Nidhal
Mom writes, "as a Shia � they were fair to me, as they taught me that
I am an infidel, libertine and it's their obligation to fight me".

There are signs that in the past few months the Saudi state has become
even more rigorous in enforcing Islamic law � sharia � and clamping
down on non-Muslim religious practice, possibly to show that it is no
less committed to sharia than Isis. In August some 22 people were
beheaded, including one man who was accused of "sorcery" and another
who had been diagnosed as mentally ill, compared with 79 last year. On
5 September, Saudi police raided a house in Khafji, near Kuwait,
charging 27 Asian Christians with holding a church service. Many Saudi
tweeters were outraged by this, Shadyah Kazandar asking "will we
tolerate raids on our mosques, which are located in every corner of
the globe".

Dr Khadem says the significance of the Twitter discussion is that "the
extremist trend within Saudi society" is still very active. But
liberal and moderate Saudis are increasingly confident enough to make
their voices heard.