On September 1 we started paying to the City hourly rental fees for
our time at King pool. We are a "public benefit" group now, on a
discounted rate. Nonetheless, at current attendance rates, our
fees/player have gone up.
Payment is in advance, thanks to our saving scheme we were able to pay
all fees until November 30 ($2500!).
As we explained earlier we will change the way we charge for practice
time. Good news now: we reduced the fees from what we have said in
May. If attendance continues good and people sign up to these plans as
we expect these fees should be enough. The options are:
Members:
-$45/month for unlimited practices
-$21/month for $6 per practice
Non-members:
-$13 for dropping in
Members monthly fees are payable 3 months at a time at the beggining
of each calendar quarter (Jan 1, April 1, July 1, Oct 1).
We lowered the drop in fee to make it more affordable to out of town
players and visitors. The drop in fee is not meant for San Francisco
players. There is no explicit rule against someone local using it
occasionally (e.g. someone that plays hockey 4 times a year or less,
you know who you are), but please don't use for a once/twice monthly
scheme. As much as possible, please sign up for the $45 unlimited
plan. We really want to minimize the hassle of collecting money at the
pool.
Payment is conveniently done with PayPal online, so you can use your
credit card or bank account. PayPal will pay your dues automatically
every 3 months. You can easily stop it at any time.
You can pat at this link: sfuwh.org/club/pay
Please help us jump-start the new system: Don't wait until October 1.
Click on the link now and make your payment. Thanks!!
For general questions email the list, for issues concerning your
personal situation write to us.
Cheers,
Tom, Roxanne, Gus
PS: Sign up for PCCs! Dates: 11/11 to 11/13. Fill the form here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?hl=en_US&formkey=dGhuc3BuVHFnZWwzRTlMTFBsWGxMV0E6MQ#gid=0
PS II: We will have a glove making gathering at Tom's place or nearby
on October 1, 10:30 to 2 pm. More info to come.
I was at the meeting in May. People were very concerned then about the drop-in rate and it is still high. You dropped the rate quite a bit for the regular attendees, but I think you are going to lose a lot of drop-ins. Probably us.
Happy Hockey,
Karen
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From: Gustavo Pesce <gpe...@gmail.com>
To: San Francisco Underwater Hockey google group <sf...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [sfuwh] New payment system starts-Please pay dues
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:08:11 -0700
Hi Sea Lions � Please go to sfuwh.org/club/pay and sign up to pay our
new monthly rate.
Cheers,
Tom, Roxanne, Gus
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We realize that the $13 option seems more convenient under some
schemes. That happened because we lowered it from $15. Again, the $13
drop in is not an option for regulars, so comparing it with the
members rate is a non-issue.
We are paying more than 2-fold more in rental now than in May. We pay
rental regardless of attendance, so we are translating that to the new
payment system.
Gus
Basically you are forcing people to pay $45 a month to play hockey no mater how frequently they play, or $21 bucks a month to just stay a member and not play at all (as you must commit in 3 month segements).
4 practices at $13 each for the drop-in rate = $52 = $13/practice*
* How do you determine who is eligible for this? If we are forced into one of the other programs, then definitely count us out. I would maybe consider showing up occassionaly for this price, but not often. I'm defintely not going to pay $21/month just to be a member when I know there are several months were I can not show up at all.
2 practices 21+6+6 = $33 = $17/practice
4 practices 21+6+6+6+6 = $45 = $11/practice
4 practices @$45 = $11/practice
7-8 practices @$45 =is approximately $6/practice (less than half of the other price). Regular players pay much less than everyone else (they should get some discount, but this a bit much).
That's great. I hope if works out. As I mentioned, it doesn't favor players that want to play 1-4 times a month. That's fine. Maybe you don't want those type of players. My guess is your not going to get part-time players with this scheme.
Speaking only for ourselves - We are only intersteded in playing part-time and we are not willing to pay your rate. If we can't use the drop-in rate, then we will just drop-in at San Mateo or some other local pool.
I hope I'm wrong. Maybe it will encourage everyone to show up 8 times a month and participation at hockey in San Francisco will grow.
This is my last repsonse on this issue. I have a busy week next week.
I hope you can get a lot of people to pay $45/month and that you have enough people show up to play a games 2 nights a week.
Best Wishes,
Karen
Gus
>>> message is unclear). � I'm just finishing my busy time (my big conference is
>>> this coming week) and was looking forward to coming back an playing some,
>>> but we will probably not pay $13 bucks a pratice, $26 for 2 people. �I have
>>> a lot of vacation and work travel coming up so realistcally we are only
>>> going to make a few times a month until the new year.
>>>
>>> I was at the meeting in May. �People were very concerned then about the
>>> drop-in rate and it is still high. �You dropped the rate quite a bit for the
>>> regular attendees, but I think you are going to lose a lot of drop-ins.
>>> �Probably us.
I think I have learned one of two things from this email exchange.
1st option: remove myself from this update format, this is inane.
2nd option: place as much as possible with San Jose group.
Best,
John Pollard
SF Garage Co
5 12 Construction
1760 Mission St
SF, CA 94103
PH 415-826-0606
I cannot thank enough everyone who donates time to insure we have a place
to play at a really nice pool to boot:)
Best,
PS, the link to make payments is extremely easy and I enjoy the ease of
making payments online.
John Pollard
S.F. Garage Co.
5.12 Construction, Inc.
1760 Mission St.
San Francisco, CA 94103
O: 415-826-0606
F: 415-276-4515
E: jo...@sfgarageco.com
I do get it.
Best Wishes,
Karen
Gus
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Attendance has been good lately, boosted by the league.
Also, posting this link again, it is a spreadsheet we used to
calculate revenue under different payment options:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Asclbd2LQ8WBdFYxeUtianZLVXFTMmFvLUFXX284WEE#gid=4
Gus
PS: Sign up for PCCs! Dates: 11/11 to 11/13. Fill the form here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?hl=en_US&formkey=dGhuc3BuVHFnZWwzRTlMTFBsWGxMV0E6MQ#gid=0
PS II: We will have a glove making gathering at Tom's place or nearby