Wed 1/17 6:15 CR Royale s3

[Alexandre Passos]

Yup, another s3 royale. Does anyone else want to be at their desk by 9am and still have an easy ride into work?

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[Jason Ally]

+1

[Ben Leisure]

+1

[Matt Cooper]

+0.9

On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 4:31:01 PM UTC-8, Ben Leisure wrote:

+1

[R Samuel Klatchko]

+.5

I've never done a Royale. Are they social at all or are they just a paceline the whole way?

[Alexandre Passos]

I'm happy to make this social

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 7:04 PM, R Samuel Klatchko <r.samuel...@gmail.com> wrote:

+.5

I've never done a Royale. Are they social at all or are they just a paceline the whole way?

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[Jason Ally]

I’m fine with social, too. In my experience the hardest part of a Royale is keeping the group together to the top of Mission + the descent through Daly City and Colma. If we stick together through that then the rest is pretty friendly.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 7:05 PM Alexandre Passos <alexan...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm happy to make this social

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 7:04 PM, R Samuel Klatchko <r.samuel...@gmail.com> wrote:

+.5

I've never done a Royale. Are they social at all or are they just a paceline the whole way?

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[Hyan Park]

+something

[Alexandre Passos]

Exactly. We'll regroup at the top of the hill, regroup colma-ish, and then try to make the same set of lights.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Hyan Park <hyan...@gmail.com> wrote:

+something

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:10 PM Jason Ally <jason...@gmail.com> wrote:

I’m fine with social, too. In my experience the hardest part of a Royale is keeping the group together to the top of Mission + the descent through Daly City and Colma. If we stick together through that then the rest is pretty friendly.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 7:05 PM Alexandre Passos <alexan...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm happy to make this social

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 7:04 PM, R Samuel Klatchko <r.samuel...@gmail.com> wrote:

+.5

I've never done a Royale. Are they social at all or are they just a paceline the whole way?

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[Chris Merrill]

+1 for fun

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:29 PM Alexandre Passos <alexan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Exactly. We'll regroup at the top of the hill, regroup colma-ish, and then try to make the same set of lights.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Hyan Park <hyan...@gmail.com> wrote:

+something

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:10 PM Jason Ally <jason...@gmail.com> wrote:

I’m fine with social, too. In my experience the hardest part of a Royale is keeping the group together to the top of Mission + the descent through Daly City and Colma. If we stick together through that then the rest is pretty friendly.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 7:05 PM Alexandre Passos <alexan...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm happy to make this social

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 7:04 PM, R Samuel Klatchko <r.samuel...@gmail.com> wrote:

+.5

I've never done a Royale. Are they social at all or are they just a paceline the whole way?

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[Andrew Stadler]

+1, if I can make it to Cafeto by 6:15.

For me, what will make it an s3 ride is if we drop people at lights or wait for them. I've seen, a few too many times, a group of riders accelerate through a yellow, leaving the one person who fell just a little behind to wait at a long signal. Once they're dropped, and held back by cross traffic, it's pretty hard for them to catch up.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:25 PM, Chris Merrill <ch...@notspelledright.com> wrote:

+1 for fun

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:29 PM Alexandre Passos <alexan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Exactly. We'll regroup at the top of the hill, regroup colma-ish, and then try to make the same set of lights.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Hyan Park <hyan...@gmail.com> wrote:

+something

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:10 PM Jason Ally <jason...@gmail.com> wrote:

I’m fine with social, too. In my experience the hardest part of a Royale is keeping the group together to the top of Mission + the descent through Daly City and Colma. If we stick together through that then the rest is pretty friendly.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 7:05 PM Alexandre Passos <alexan...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm happy to make this social

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 7:04 PM, R Samuel Klatchko <r.samuel...@gmail.com> wrote:

+.5

I've never done a Royale. Are they social at all or are they just a paceline the whole way?

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[Dan Padgett]

+1

[Jason Ally]

Thanks again for the ride call, Alex. Glad we were able to keep everyone together all the way to Palo Alto!

On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 6:05:26 AM UTC-8, Dan Padgett wrote:

+1

[Patrick Kitto]

A social Royale?!? what is this world coming to?

What happened to our forefather's (SCrosby) Royale vision of constant pain and anguish? gut wrenching, leg searing nearly style zero assault on common sense?

The kind that set full Royale KOMs and had you at breakfast in PA by 7:30?

The tandem Royale was truly a morning of greatness.And pain.

[Alexandre Passos]

One day I'll be in good enough shape to do that. Until then I'll do the occasional social royale when I have early meetings :-)

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[Patrick Kitto]

you get faster by doing it. not not-doing it.

If you call it, the fitness will come. It might even precipitate a Chang sighting.

Maybe I'll call a Royale comeback some day I don't need to go into the office. See if we can get a Chang and/or Colijny pain train going. My track bike is starting to feel neglected.

[Justin!]

Alex, I think this is a great call and I hope to join next time!

[Patrick Kitto]

Have we also lost on-list heckling?

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:19 AM, Justin! <roja...@gmail.com> wrote:

Alex, I think this is a great call and I hope to join next time!

[Alexandre Passos]

Maybe when I get faster I'll get better at heckling...

(the on-list sandbagging is fine)

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[David Goldsmith]

The folks here probably don't recognize your name, since it's never associated with actual bike rides.

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[Patrick Kitto]

now THAT is some quality heckling.

Cheers to DGo for bringing back the OG flavor!

[Christine Ryan]

+1 to that!!

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:31 PM Patrick Kitto <patric...@gmail.com> wrote:

now THAT is some quality heckling.

Cheers to DGo for bringing back the OG flavor!

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:27 PM, David Goldsmith <d...@dgolds.com> wrote:

The folks here probably don't recognize your name, since it's never associated with actual bike rides.

On 1/17/18 11:25 AM, Patrick Kitto wrote:

Have we also lost on-list heckling?

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:19 AM, Justin! <roja...@gmail.com> wrote:

Alex, I think this is a great call and I hope to join next time!

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[Matthew Kenaston]

damn. mid-day entertainment value is high on this thread

[Andrew Stadler]

Speaking of old-timers, and also relevant to today's social pace, we even had time for a brief discussion of donut shops along the way.

For those of you who were part of the conversation, search the archives for "bakeway", there were at least a couple of them.

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[Matt Redmond]

Has the list ever considered a super-early team time trial Royale to set the KOM?

[Patrick Kitto]

I fully an attack on the leader board. Start your interval training now., attack in the summer when school is out and you have less morning traffic.

The Tandem Royale had a 21.5 mph average speed. with a 75% quartile of 25.3 mph and didnt take the KOM. Four tandems driving the train with a half dozen bikes attacking off every stoplight.

Marcello and whoever AP is (that doesn't appear to strava anymore) have the KOM a couple of months before, and Rob Manchester is third riding solo on a saturday morning. Fourth and Fifth are Macieck and I, and we sandbanged the start to cherry pick the KOM on the tandem royale. We hung out at Cafeto an extra 30 seconds then caught up before the daly city climb.

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[Cordelia Link]

Why is the segment only to Belmont?

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[R Samuel Klatchko]

There's also a segment to Arastradero. 

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[Patrick Kitto]

Because I made it, and often times only Royale'd to San Carlos. Top of the hill in Belmont is where I would peel off and wind down. 

Wouldn't be too hard to make a full royal segment with an end point wherever is decided is 'full'. Id suggest the Palo Alto city limit sign to stick with race-ride sprint line tradition.

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[Jeffrey Skokan]

Yeah!  I remember the Tandem Royale.  I got dropped before we even reached Daly City.  It was both FAST and PAINFUL!

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