OT: tire recycling

[Peter Colijn]

I used to take my dead tires to SB for recycling. Tried today and was told they don't do that any more. Does anyone know anywhere else that takes 'em?

[Zak Jarvis]

This is relevant to my interests.

On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 6:37 PM Peter Colijn <caff...@colijn.ca> wrote:

I used to take my dead tires to SB for recycling. Tried today and was told they don't do that any more. Does anyone know anywhere else that takes 'em?

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[Robert Griesmeyer]

what's SB? 

[djconnel]

Sports Basement

[Nathan Dushman]

Performance Bicycle has a blue bin for tire and tube recycling. The one I know of in SF is on Brannan between 5th and 6th in SOMA. The bin is up front near the registers.

Nathan

[Chris Ryan]

Thanks!! Oh, also, although SB on Bryant no longer has a tire/tube bin down in the garage, the guy on duty down there told me the other day that they still accept tires up in the bike dept...I was on my way out, so haven't yet had a chance to confirm...

> On Aug 13, 2017, at 7:53 AM, Nathan Dushman <n...@abtech.org> wrote:
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> Performance Bicycle has a blue bin for tire and tube recycling. The one I know of in SF is on Brannan between 5th and 6th in SOMA. The bin is up front near the registers.
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> Nathan
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[Justin!]

SB in berkeley definitely won't take them

[Jason Ally]

I know Mike's Bikes recycles inner tubes: http://mikesbikes.com/articles/we-recycle-inner-tubes-pg1857.htm

There's a blue bin in the maintenance side of the SF store (1233 Howard Street). I'm not sure if they take tires for recycling, but as it turns out I've got a bunch of inner tubes I was planning to recycle at Mike's this afternoon. I'll ask about tire recycling and post an update.

[Peter Colijn]

Yeah my experience last time was the dude in the parking lot said they took them but the dude in the bike department wouldn't actually take them...

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[Peter Chang]

Le lundi 14 août 2017 14:57:30 UTC-7, Peter Colijn a écrit :

Yeah my experience last time was the dude in the parking lot said they took them but the dude in the bike department wouldn't actually take them...

cue 'some dude may be out of date' meme...

[Jason Ally]

And the update: Mike's doesn't take tires for recycling. They just throw them out. :(

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[Peter Colijn]

Update: swung by performance bike last weekend and they were happy to take my stash of dead tires. I don't know if they actually dispose of them responsibly, but they will take them cheerfully at least.

Thanks, Nathan!

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[Peter Colijn]

Rolled up to performance bike with another stash of dead tires today and they're in the midst of a closing down sale, and don't have the tire recycling bin any more (not that it would matter, since today is their last day I think).

Anyone know anywhere else to recycle bike tires or do I have start sending them to the dump?

Peter

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017, 22:29 Peter Colijn <caff...@colijn.ca wrote:

Update: swung by performance bike last weekend and they were happy to take my stash of dead tires. I don't know if they actually dispose of them responsibly, but they will take them cheerfully at least.

Thanks, Nathan!

On 14 Aug 2017 18:18, "Jason Ally" <jason...@gmail.com> wrote:

And the update: Mike's doesn't take tires for recycling. They just throw them out. :(

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 4:22 PM 'Peter Chang' via SF2G <sf...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Le lundi 14 août 2017 14:57:30 UTC-7, Peter Colijn a écrit :

Yeah my experience last time was the dude in the parking lot said they took them but the dude in the bike department wouldn't actually take them...

cue 'some dude may be out of date' meme...

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[Luke Scholefield]

Vaguely relevant: you can get old bike tires upcycled into belts in Australia. If anyone has cool colors to donate I could drop them off on my next trip.

https://www.buckitbelts.com

They are surprisingly comfortable.

[Peter Colijn]

Definitely a cool idea to make belts (and other stuff) out of tires. Unfortunately, all the ones I'm aware of want cool colours and my tires are all boring black...

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[Jason Ally]

A few months ago I asked a tech at Bike Connection if they recycled tires. He told me they didn't, but he did say Recology will find tires in the landfill stream and properly dispose of them.

Recology's WhatBin tool says the same thing -- you can put tires in the landfill bin. But you be the judge on whether or not Recology actually follows through. I'd like to think Recology is one of the better waste management companies, but who knows.

As an aside, recycling has become quite the can of worms in recent years.

[Hyper]

 I assume bike and car tires basicly end up at the same place to be recycled as car tires.  For car tires you pay a fee in advance when you buy tires to have them recycled since it's a costly process, the rubbers contain nasty chemicals,  and no one wants them.  (they pay people to take the scraps or law requires them  be used  in rubberized asphalt for repaving).  Since they have have negative value, bike shops are unlikely able to afford to pay to dispose of them given how low their margins are.  Best is probably take them to a place that takes car tires to see if they will send them to the recycler for you.  Since they are such a detriment to the environment best solution is to reduce your consumption of tires by getting maximum mileage out of them (eg tire rotation).  Replace car trips with bike trips is also a great way to reduce amount of toxic waste rubber you generate (but you already knew that).

[Johan Beisser]

Have you tried Sports Basement?

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On Jan 29, 2019, at 10:30, Hyper <terry....@gmail.com> wrote:

 I assume bike and car tires basicly end up at the same place to be recycled as car tires.  For car tires you pay a fee in advance when you buy tires to have them recycled since it's a costly process, the rubbers contain nasty chemicals,  and no one wants them.  (they pay people to take the scraps or law requires them  be used  in rubberized asphalt for repaving).  Since they have have negative value, bike shops are unlikely able to afford to pay to dispose of them given how low their margins are.  Best is probably take them to a place that takes car tires to see if they will send them to the recycler for you.  Since they are such a detriment to the environment best solution is to reduce your consumption of tires by getting maximum mileage out of them (eg tire rotation).  Replace car trips with bike trips is also a great way to reduce amount of toxic waste rubber you generate (but you already knew that).

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[Ken MacInnis]

Tire rotation can be pretty dangerous. If it's too bare to grip in the rear, it's going to wash out in the front. I've found replacing the rears twice as often seems to work as well, rather than replacing them as a set as a policy.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 5:30 AM Hyper <terry....@gmail.com> wrote:

 I assume bike and car tires basicly end up at the same place to be recycled as car tires.  For car tires you pay a fee in advance when you buy tires to have them recycled since it's a costly process, the rubbers contain nasty chemicals,  and no one wants them.  (they pay people to take the scraps or law requires them  be used  in rubberized asphalt for repaving).  Since they have have negative value, bike shops are unlikely able to afford to pay to dispose of them given how low their margins are.  Best is probably take them to a place that takes car tires to see if they will send them to the recycler for you.  Since they are such a detriment to the environment best solution is to reduce your consumption of tires by getting maximum mileage out of them (eg tire rotation).  Replace car trips with bike trips is also a great way to reduce amount of toxic waste rubber you generate (but you already knew that).

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[Johan Beisser]

I rotate the front to rear when the rear wears out, and replace the front. But, only for my commuter bike.

[Max Nachury]

I agree with Ken

[Peter Colijn]

Yep, I was going to sports basement before performance bike...

To be honest, I don't know if either place really successfully recycled the tires. But they claimed to, so I figured it was probably a higher probability of not ending up in a landfill than if I put them in my trash bin at home...

[djconnel]

How does grip on a front tire decrease? If anything it might get better because less rubber is more supple. Front rubber doesn’t wear much anyway unless you skid stop.

[Alexandre Passos]

I find I don't feel as comfortable on corners when my front tire is squared off, which is what happens as it wears you. Y'all are more comfortable on corners than I am though so this likely doesn't matter to you.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 7:02 AM djconnel <djco...@gmail.com> wrote:

How does grip on a front tire decrease?  If anything it might get better because less rubber is more supple.   Front rubber doesn’t wear much anyway unless you skid stop.

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[John French]

The rationale given for the Sheldon Brown method of moving the front tire to the rear when the rear one wears, and replacing the front with a new tire, isn’t about grip, but rather blowout risk. Better to have the worn tire on the rear to make a front blowout less likely. (https://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-rotation.html)

On Jan 30, 2019, at 07:02, djconnel <djco...@gmail.com> wrote:

How does grip on a front tire decrease?  If anything it might get better because less rubber is more supple.   Front rubber doesn’t wear much anyway unless you skid stop.

[Maxence Nachury]

I would also think that getting the freshest rubber in front maximizes braking traction where you want it the most. I’m OK with a rear wheel skidding, but not the front.

[Patrick Ryan]

I agree with this rotation approach (new -> front -> rear - [TBD waste stream]).

Venturing further off-topic: Remember that when replacing car tires, put the newest tires on the back! This seems counter-intuitive. However, at the limit, understeer is easier to mitigate than oversteer.

https://m.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=52

[Johan Beisser]

Re: car tires. That really depends on the car. Front wheel drive cars don’t benefit by having more tread on the back as power comes from in front, and weight is over the front wheels. Mid engine may benefit from this, if they’re rear wheel drive. 

AWD should get all 4 tires replaced at the same time. Rotation is front to back. Back to front, same side. 

TL; DR: consult the owner’s manual.