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Hey, I can make it this year - finally! My first time ever.
It's on my calendar, will request a day off.
Any other SF2G alums coming?
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+1. Vacation requested!
This year should be amazing. I hope we still have wildflowers by then.
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Mark your calendars, and submit that vacation day request NOW!
Bike to work day is May 11 this year. That means May 10 is Mount Ham Way Day!
I'll also be doing my traditional YawyabNoomFlah on the way home for anyone interested.
From last year's ride call:
We will be targeting the Dublin/Pleasanton train that arrives at 0608. Departure times from SF:
Glen Park — 051224th Mission — 0515 (this is where I'll be boarding)16th Mission — 0517
After BART, we’ll be stopping at the Noah’s / Starbucks on Santa Rita Rd. to fuel up.
I anticipate we’ll hit the Junction at around 0945.
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(but really, probably not; the low-geared one might work for the climb but I shudder at the thought of it on all those flat road segments)
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All the results say may 11, though the boxy thingie says 19 for no good reason.
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Looking forward to Hamway on Wednesday! The road closure just means there's a detour on the way down, right?
Okay, I think that I have successfully fended off meetings for Wednesday, so I'm seriously considering this. This is a bit further than my usual rides, so I was thinking a bit about preparation.
I read thru the Mt Ham Way calls from previous years, but had a few questions:
- What do folks bring? Two water bottles, I assume. And lots of food? Do folks bring backpacks with extra food/water/layers, or just stash everything in pockets?
- It looks, from previous strava tracks, that it's about 96 miles to mountain view or 82 miles to San Jose. But the elapsed times were all over the map. Any idea of when we'd probably arrive back to civilization?
PS. Perhaps it would be good to add these items (+ route map) to the 'template' for Mt Ham Way ride call for next year ...
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Yeah the times have varied a lot due to mechanicals as well. Last year Dave Borowitz had a flat on his Brompton and didn't really have all the right tools to fix it, so it took a while to get that sorted.So, when you ask what to bring: make sure you have tools and spares and stuff!
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Okay, I think that I have successfully fended off meetings for Wednesday, so I'm seriously considering this. This is a bit further than my usual rides, so I was thinking a bit about preparation.
I read thru the Mt Ham Way calls from previous years, but had a few questions:
- What do folks bring? Two water bottles, I assume. And lots of food? Do folks bring backpacks with extra food/water/layers, or just stash everything in pockets?Two water bottles and food is usually fine. There is water at the fire station by the junction and at the top of the mountain. I might bring a camelback just in case it gets too hot again.- It looks, from previous strava tracks, that it's about 96 miles to mountain view or 82 miles to San Jose. But the elapsed times were all over the map. Any idea of when we'd probably arrive back to civilization?Depends wildly on the group and pace we're setting.
PS. Perhaps it would be good to add these items (+ route map) to the 'template' for Mt Ham Way ride call for next year ...
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Bring dollar bills for the coke machine at the top of Mt. Ham!
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Yeah the times have varied a lot due to mechanicals as well. Last year Dave Borowitz had a flat on his Brompton and didn't really have all the right tools to fix it, so it took a while to get that sorted.So, when you ask what to bring: make sure you have tools and spares and stuff!
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On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:45 PM, George Lumpkin <george....@gmail.com> wrote:
Okay, I think that I have successfully fended off meetings for Wednesday, so I'm seriously considering this. This is a bit further than my usual rides, so I was thinking a bit about preparation.
I read thru the Mt Ham Way calls from previous years, but had a few questions:
- What do folks bring? Two water bottles, I assume. And lots of food? Do folks bring backpacks with extra food/water/layers, or just stash everything in pockets?Two water bottles and food is usually fine. There is water at the fire station by the junction and at the top of the mountain. I might bring a camelback just in case it gets too hot again.- It looks, from previous strava tracks, that it's about 96 miles to mountain view or 82 miles to San Jose. But the elapsed times were all over the map. Any idea of when we'd probably arrive back to civilization?Depends wildly on the group and pace we're setting.
PS. Perhaps it would be good to add these items (+ route map) to the 'template' for Mt Ham Way ride call for next year ...
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On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Beckett Madden-Woods <bec...@beckettmw.com> wrote:
Bring dollar bills for the coke machine at the top of Mt. Ham!
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:49 PM Peter Colijn <caff...@colijn.ca> wrote:
Yeah the times have varied a lot due to mechanicals as well. Last year Dave Borowitz had a flat on his Brompton and didn't really have all the right tools to fix it, so it took a while to get that sorted.So, when you ask what to bring: make sure you have tools and spares and stuff!
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On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:45 PM, George Lumpkin <george....@gmail.com> wrote:
Okay, I think that I have successfully fended off meetings for Wednesday, so I'm seriously considering this. This is a bit further than my usual rides, so I was thinking a bit about preparation.
I read thru the Mt Ham Way calls from previous years, but had a few questions:
- What do folks bring? Two water bottles, I assume. And lots of food? Do folks bring backpacks with extra food/water/layers, or just stash everything in pockets?Two water bottles and food is usually fine. There is water at the fire station by the junction and at the top of the mountain. I might bring a camelback just in case it gets too hot again.- It looks, from previous strava tracks, that it's about 96 miles to mountain view or 82 miles to San Jose. But the elapsed times were all over the map. Any idea of when we'd probably arrive back to civilization?Depends wildly on the group and pace we're setting.
PS. Perhaps it would be good to add these items (+ route map) to the 'template' for Mt Ham Way ride call for next year ...
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1. Bail to Caltrain in SJ - approx 80 miles total
2. Bail to BART (ride North from Great Mall to Warm Springs) - approx 92 miles
Interesting...
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After the initial Starbucks, is it right to figure there will be no more places to buy food so we should bring enough foods/bars/gels to last about 9 hours?
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Wish I could join, but sadly it's not an option for me this year.
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On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 11:26:41 AM UTC-7, Peter Colijn wrote:Mark your calendars, and submit that vacation day request NOW!Bike to work day is May 11 this year. That means May 10 is Mount Ham Way Day!I'll also be doing my traditional YawyabNoomFlah on the way home for anyone interested.From last year's ride call:We will be targeting the Dublin/Pleasanton train that arrives at 0608. Departure times from SF:Glen Park — 051224th Mission — 0515 (this is where I'll be boarding)16th Mission — 0517After BART, we’ll be stopping at the Noah’s / Starbucks on Santa Rita Rd. to fuel up.I anticipate we’ll hit the Junction at around 0945.
Don't forget that from San Jose Diridon you can also catch Amtrak to Oakland and Berkeley, with a bicycle, although on a less frequent schedule than Caltrain.
Wish I could join, but sadly it's not an option for me this year.
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Oops... I totally blew past Quimby. I guess it's at the bottom of the 2nd climb not the top! Road is open all the way to Alum Rock. Ping me if you guys head/ed down Quimby and I'll try to intercept. Otherwise I'll chill at 130/Alum Rock to see if anyone else shows up.
Oops... I totally blew past Quimby. I guess it's at the bottom of the 2nd climb not the top! Road is open all the way to Alum Rock. Ping me if you guys head/ed down Quimby and I'll try to intercept. Otherwise I'll chill at 130/Alum Rock to see if anyone else shows up.
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Damn, Nathan...it's our chance to do the ride in under-90-degree conditions! :)We'll miss you!
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Wish I could join, but sadly it's not an option for me this year.
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Ok I'll be at White/Alum Rock... pls advise if better intercept spot. Sorry!
We took quimby. I went ahead thinking you were ahead. I'm at quimby and Ruby right now.
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Oops... I totally blew past Quimby. I guess it's at the bottom of the 2nd climb not the top! Road is open all the way to Alum Rock. Ping me if you guys head/ed down Quimby and I'll try to intercept. Otherwise I'll chill at 130/Alum Rock to see if anyone else shows up.
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Damn, Nathan...it's our chance to do the ride in under-90-degree conditions! :)We'll miss you!
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Wish I could join, but sadly it's not an option for me this year.
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Ok I'll be at White/Alum Rock... pls advise if better intercept spot. Sorry!
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We took quimby. I went ahead thinking you were ahead. I'm at quimby and Ruby right now.
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Oops... I totally blew past Quimby. I guess it's at the bottom of the 2nd climb not the top! Road is open all the way to Alum Rock. Ping me if you guys head/ed down Quimby and I'll try to intercept. Otherwise I'll chill at 130/Alum Rock to see if anyone else shows up.
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Wish I could join, but sadly it's not an option for me this year.
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I'm at White/Alum Rock. There's a Starbucks. Seems to be on the mapmyride route. Shall aim to intercept here. Ping if you gonna different way and advise of a different intercept if necessary? Thanks and sorry!
We're hanging out here at quimby and Ruby waiting for folks, at the moment.
On May 10, 2017 1:54 PM, "Beckett Madden-Woods" <bec...@beckettmw.com> wrote:
Ok I'll be at White/Alum Rock... pls advise if better intercept spot. Sorry!
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We took quimby. I went ahead thinking you were ahead. I'm at quimby and Ruby right now.
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Oops... I totally blew past Quimby. I guess it's at the bottom of the 2nd climb not the top! Road is open all the way to Alum Rock. Ping me if you guys head/ed down Quimby and I'll try to intercept. Otherwise I'll chill at 130/Alum Rock to see if anyone else shows up.
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Damn, Nathan...it's our chance to do the ride in under-90-degree conditions! :)We'll miss you!
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Don't forget that from San Jose Diridon you can also catch Amtrak to Oakland and Berkeley, with a bicycle, although on a less frequent schedule than Caltrain.
Wish I could join, but sadly it's not an option for me this year.
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Safely on BART! Great ride! Thanks!
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I successfully put the V in SF2G, did maybe 20 minutes of work, and had the most satisfying Coke ever (because <attached>).Thanks for calling, Peter!
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Success!
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Thanks for the pictures, Marcelo! And thanks everyone for such an awesome ride. Is it fair to say we've earned our chill BTWD ride tomorrow?
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Success!
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A staple in my rear tire at mile 79 caused a flat, which I tired to deal with by pumping the tube because "only three miles out." Shoulda just changed it but I after seeing how weirdly the staple was lodged in the tire, I'm not sure that I would have been able to get it out (and not sure if I would have been as macha as Chris to boot it). It slow leaked the rest of the day. Oh, well. Just picked up two (needed) new tires and should be good to go for tomorrow.
After listening to you guys talk about "cokes at the top" all day, I downed an ice-cold Mexican coke as soon as I got home. Maybe not as good as "showercoke" though.
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Success!
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As a non-follower of shower{beer,coke} I honestly don't understand how (1) warm shower water makes beverages better or (2) how y'all manage to shower so neatly there isn't shower water everywhere...
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A staple in my rear tire at mile 79 caused a flat, which I tired to deal with by pumping the tube because "only three miles out." Shoulda just changed it but I after seeing how weirdly the staple was lodged in the tire, I'm not sure that I would have been able to get it out (and not sure if I would have been as macha as Chris to boot it). It slow leaked the rest of the day. Oh, well. Just picked up two (needed) new tires and should be good to go for tomorrow.
After listening to you guys talk about "cokes at the top" all day, I downed an ice-cold Mexican coke as soon as I got home. Maybe not as good as "showercoke" though.
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Success!
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Safely on BART! Great ride! Thanks!
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Huh--I picked up a staple too! Just across from Levi's Stadium, so I'm blaming them. (Thanks again for the tube and CO2, Trung!)Glad you made it home okay, David!
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A staple in my rear tire at mile 79 caused a flat, which I tired to deal with by pumping the tube because "only three miles out." Shoulda just changed it but I after seeing how weirdly the staple was lodged in the tire, I'm not sure that I would have been able to get it out (and not sure if I would have been as macha as Chris to boot it). It slow leaked the rest of the day. Oh, well. Just picked up two (needed) new tires and should be good to go for tomorrow.
After listening to you guys talk about "cokes at the top" all day, I downed an ice-cold Mexican coke as soon as I got home. Maybe not as good as "showercoke" though.
On 5/10/17 6:13 PM, Christine Ryan wrote:
(You'll notice that despite the wide array of beverages, there was no Coke...but Showercoke awaits!!!)
Thanks for calling, Peter, and for towing us across the South Bay! Oh, and the cookies, of course!)
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Success!
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Safely on BART! Great ride! Thanks!
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Damn. Next year! Next year I will have this year's TBC under my belt and thus in shape to do this ride.
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:21 PM Christine Ryan <crya...@gmail.com> wrote:
Huh--I picked up a staple too! Just across from Levi's Stadium, so I'm blaming them. (Thanks again for the tube and CO2, Trung!)Glad you made it home okay, David!
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A staple in my rear tire at mile 79 caused a flat, which I tired to deal with by pumping the tube because "only three miles out." Shoulda just changed it but I after seeing how weirdly the staple was lodged in the tire, I'm not sure that I would have been able to get it out (and not sure if I would have been as macha as Chris to boot it). It slow leaked the rest of the day. Oh, well. Just picked up two (needed) new tires and should be good to go for tomorrow.
After listening to you guys talk about "cokes at the top" all day, I downed an ice-cold Mexican coke as soon as I got home. Maybe not as good as "showercoke" though.
On 5/10/17 6:13 PM, Christine Ryan wrote:
(You'll notice that despite the wide array of beverages, there was no Coke...but Showercoke awaits!!!)
Thanks for calling, Peter, and for towing us across the South Bay! Oh, and the cookies, of course!)
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Success!
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Safely on BART! Great ride! Thanks!
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Success #2! Thanks everyone for coming!
On 10 May 2017 20:03, "Zak Jarvis" <voidm...@gmail.com> wrote:
Damn. Next year! Next year I will have this year's TBC under my belt and thus in shape to do this ride.
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:21 PM Christine Ryan <crya...@gmail.com> wrote:
Huh--I picked up a staple too! Just across from Levi's Stadium, so I'm blaming them. (Thanks again for the tube and CO2, Trung!)Glad you made it home okay, David!
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:04 PM David Goldsmith <d...@dgolds.com> wrote:
A staple in my rear tire at mile 79 caused a flat, which I tired to deal with by pumping the tube because "only three miles out." Shoulda just changed it but I after seeing how weirdly the staple was lodged in the tire, I'm not sure that I would have been able to get it out (and not sure if I would have been as macha as Chris to boot it). It slow leaked the rest of the day. Oh, well. Just picked up two (needed) new tires and should be good to go for tomorrow.
After listening to you guys talk about "cokes at the top" all day, I downed an ice-cold Mexican coke as soon as I got home. Maybe not as good as "showercoke" though.
On 5/10/17 6:13 PM, Christine Ryan wrote:
(You'll notice that despite the wide array of beverages, there was no Coke...but Showercoke awaits!!!)
Thanks for calling, Peter, and for towing us across the South Bay! Oh, and the cookies, of course!)
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Success!
On 10 May 2017 15:32, "Justin!" <roja...@gmail.com> wrote:
Safely on BART! Great ride! Thanks!
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Hurray!
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Success #2! Thanks everyone for coming!
On 10 May 2017 20:03, "Zak Jarvis" <voidm...@gmail.com> wrote:
Damn. Next year! Next year I will have this year's TBC under my belt and thus in shape to do this ride.
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Huh--I picked up a staple too! Just across from Levi's Stadium, so I'm blaming them. (Thanks again for the tube and CO2, Trung!)Glad you made it home okay, David!
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:04 PM David Goldsmith <d...@dgolds.com> wrote:
A staple in my rear tire at mile 79 caused a flat, which I tired to deal with by pumping the tube because "only three miles out." Shoulda just changed it but I after seeing how weirdly the staple was lodged in the tire, I'm not sure that I would have been able to get it out (and not sure if I would have been as macha as Chris to boot it). It slow leaked the rest of the day. Oh, well. Just picked up two (needed) new tires and should be good to go for tomorrow.
After listening to you guys talk about "cokes at the top" all day, I downed an ice-cold Mexican coke as soon as I got home. Maybe not as good as "showercoke" though.
On 5/10/17 6:13 PM, Christine Ryan wrote:
(You'll notice that despite the wide array of beverages, there was no Coke...but Showercoke awaits!!!)
Thanks for calling, Peter, and for towing us across the South Bay! Oh, and the cookies, of course!)
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Success!
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Safely on BART! Great ride! Thanks!
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Thinking about today's ToC stage reminded me to look up what was actually mined near Mines Road...found this: http://www.elivermore.com/photos/Hist_lvr_tesla.htm
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Peter Colijn <caff...@colijn.ca> wrote:
"""The technical descent down Quimby Road"""you don't say...
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Christine Ryan <crya...@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh, and on the topic of the Tour of California (that "bike event" we kept seeing signs for), yes, this year there will be a four-day women's race, whic starts TODAY in South Lake Tahoe. The men's race starts in Sacramento on Sunday. Then on Monday they tackle Mount Hamilton: http://www.amgentourofcalifornia.com/stage2
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:40 PM, Christine Ryan <crya...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hurray!
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:35 PM Peter Colijn <caff...@colijn.ca> wrote:
Success #2! Thanks everyone for coming!
On 10 May 2017 20:03, "Zak Jarvis" <voidm...@gmail.com> wrote:
Damn. Next year! Next year I will have this year's TBC under my belt and thus in shape to do this ride.
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:21 PM Christine Ryan <crya...@gmail.com> wrote:
Huh--I picked up a staple too! Just across from Levi's Stadium, so I'm blaming them. (Thanks again for the tube and CO2, Trung!)Glad you made it home okay, David!
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 7:04 PM David Goldsmith <d...@dgolds.com> wrote:
A staple in my rear tire at mile 79 caused a flat, which I tired to deal with by pumping the tube because "only three miles out." Shoulda just changed it but I after seeing how weirdly the staple was lodged in the tire, I'm not sure that I would have been able to get it out (and not sure if I would have been as macha as Chris to boot it). It slow leaked the rest of the day. Oh, well. Just picked up two (needed) new tires and should be good to go for tomorrow.
After listening to you guys talk about "cokes at the top" all day, I downed an ice-cold Mexican coke as soon as I got home. Maybe not as good as "showercoke" though.
On 5/10/17 6:13 PM, Christine Ryan wrote:
(You'll notice that despite the wide array of beverages, there was no Coke...but Showercoke awaits!!!)
Thanks for calling, Peter, and for towing us across the South Bay! Oh, and the cookies, of course!)
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 4:33 PM Peter Colijn <caff...@colijn.ca> wrote:
Success!
On 10 May 2017 15:32, "Justin!" <roja...@gmail.com> wrote:
Safely on BART! Great ride! Thanks!
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On May 15, 2017, at 9:16 AM, Christine Ryan <crya...@gmail.com> wrote:Thinking about today's ToC stage reminded me to look up what was actually mined near Mines Road...found this: http://www.elivermore.com/photos/Hist_lvr_tesla.htm