International Space Agency
Victoria
This post is to set the record straight, and to correct the great deal
of incorrect and extremely old & outdated information which is
displayed on this sci.space.policy news group when the search term
"International Space Agency" is entered into the google search box, for
google news groups. Much of these posts which are displayed when
"International Space Agency" is entered in Google Search, is as old as
1990??!!, and also posts which have absolutely nothing what so ever to
do with "International Space Agency". This incorrect and outdated
information is being routinely displayed in the top listings in both
the "Sorted by relevance" and "Sort by date" when the term
"International Space Agency" is entered into Google Search Box.
As this is now doing great damage to the International Space Agency
(ISA) Organization, Trademarked & Copyrighted (1986-2005) Name & Public
Identity, and is causing great confusion to the general public who are
searching for the "International Space Agency" on google, and then
getting this incorrect, outdated, and at times, plagiarized information
and materials.
Also, this false, outdated, and incorrect information is being used by
propaganda professionals, antagonists, and anarchists, who have been
routinely and systematically using this information to deceive the
unsuspecting public, and to slander the good name of the International
Space Agency (ISA) Organization.
Please see this updated and correct information about the International
Space Agency (ISA) Organization, Thanks.
This is the present International Space Agency (ISA) Organization,
Google News Group:
http://groups.google.com/group/International-Space-Agency-ISA
http://www.international-space-agency.net/mb_national_space_agencies_400w.jpg
This is the official International Space Agency (ISA) Organization, Web
Gate:
http://www.international-space-agency.org
http://www.international-space-agency.net/mb_national_space_agencies_400w.jpg
Ad-Astra! "To The Stars!"
In Peace For All Humanity! So Say We All!
Sincerely, Best Regards,
Mrs. Victoria Scott, Ph.D.
Public Affairs Officer
International Space Agency, I.S.A.
International Space Administration
http://www.international-space-agency.org
http://www.international-space-agency.net/mb_national_space_agencies_400w.jpg
http://www.international-space-agency.net/mb_isa_emblem_250w_250h.jpg
International Space Agency, I.S.A.
Diplomatic Offices - Washington, D.C.
Website: http://www.isa-hq.org
Phone: (202) 917-0209
International Space Agency, I.S.A.
Administrative Offices - Omaha, Nebraska
Website: http://www.isa-hq.net
Phone: (402) 299-2799
Derek Lyons
>Dear sci.space.history
Dear Victoria;
You are not an agency - you are private corporation/foundation
misrepresenting yourself. If anyone is deceiving the unsuspecting
public - it is you.
D.
--
Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.
-Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
Oct 5th, 2004 JDL
OM
wrote:
>International Space Agency, I.S.A.
>Diplomatic Offices - Washington, D.C.
>Website: http://www.isa-hq.org
>Phone: (202) 917-0209
...Boy, talk about a load of bullshit. Not only is the link in her
.sig pointed to a website with two images that are broken, most of
what she says is LaToilet-class bitchy PMS rhetoric. And from what I
read on the ISA site that works, the Lions and Elks and Kiwanis
probably have a better chance of banding together and advancing space
exploration.
Please, keep the crap on .policy. That's what it exists for.
OM
--
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m
his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb bastard die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society
- General George S. Patton, Jr
Victoria
Derek Lyons - Aug 26 2005 - 1:30 pm
------------------------------------------------------
Dear Victoria;
You are not an agency - you are private corporation /
foundation misrepresenting yourself. If anyone is deceiving
the unsuspecting public - it is you.
Derek Lyons ( D. )
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.
Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
************************************************************************
Derek Lyons, Like I said!
"Also, this false, outdated, and incorrect information is being used by
propaganda professionals, antagonists, and anarchists, who have been
routinely and systematically using this information to deceive the
unsuspecting public, and to slander the good name of the International
Space Agency (ISA) Organization."
For those seeking the truth, and not propaganda and lies, please see
this info:
Jeff Findley
"Derek Lyons" <fair...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:430f58de...@supernews.seanet.com...
> "Victoria" <victori...@isa-hq.com> wrote:
>
> >Dear sci.space.history
>
> Dear Victoria;
>
> You are not an agency - you are private corporation/foundation
> misrepresenting yourself. If anyone is deceiving the unsuspecting
> public - it is you.
No kidding.
The first thing you notice is that the web site is very badly done. All of
the graphics look like they were done in MS Paint, or something equally
primitive.
If you poke around on the web site a bit more, you'll find that the Director
(Chairman of the board & chief executive officer & founder) is Mr. Rick R.
Dobson, Jr. Keep looking and you'll find copies of "letters" they've sent
to NASA, ESA, etc. On the letter to ESA, you'll find the "private/unlisted"
phone for Mr. Rick R. Dobson, Jr. If you do a reverse lookup on that number
(minus the extension), you'll find that it belongs to this company:
http://www.cjseng.com/SSE/index.html
It seems that his "private/unlisted" number would seem to be that of his
"day job" at a structural engineering company that seems to build buildings
(nothing aerospace).
But if you want, there is a page where you can send in donations to this
private corporation that claims to be an international space agency (located
in Omaha, Nebraska):
http://www.international-space-agency.org/pages/5/index.htm
I personally wouldn't send them a dime. They seem to be doing everything
they can to get their web site to show up in Google searches, likely because
someone just might start taking them seriously and actually send them some
money. :-P
Jeff
--
Remove icky phrase from email address to get a valid address.
ad...@isa-hq.com
Dear Victoria;
You are not an agency - you are private corporation/foundation
misrepresenting yourself. If anyone is deceiving the unsuspecting
public - it is you.
D.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.
Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
****************************************************************************
Like I said!
"Also, this false, outdated, and incorrect information is being used by
propaganda professionals, antagonists, and anarchists, who have been
routinely and systematically using this information to deceive the
unsuspecting public, and to slander the good name of the International
Space Agency (ISA) Organization."
For those seeking the truth, and not propaganda & lies, please use this
info:
Please see this updated and correct information about the International
Space Agency (ISA) Organization, Thanks.
This is the present International Space Agency (ISA) Organization,
Google News Group:
http://groups.google.com/group/International-Space-Agency-ISA
http://www.international-space-agency.net/mb_national_space_agencies_400w.jpg
This is the official International Space Agency (ISA) Organization, Web
Gate:
http://www.international-space-agency.org
http://www.international-space-agency.net/mb_national_space_agencies_400w.jpg
Ad-Astra! "To The Stars!"
In Peace For All Humanity! So Say We All!
Sincerely, Best Regards,
Mrs. Victoria Scott, Ph.D.
Public Affairs Officer
International Space Agency, I.S.A.
International Space Administration
http://www.international-space-agency.org
http://www.international-space-agency.net/mb_national_space_agencies_...
http://www.international-space-agency.net/mb_isa_emblem_250w_250h.jpg
OM
,,Oh, lookie! The bimbo changed her e-mail address.
<RE-PLONK>
>For those seeking the truth, and not propaganda and lies, please see
>this info:
...What are you going to do? Add all that bullshit at the bottom of
every post? Don't waste our bandwidth, you ditz.
Derek Lyons
>************************************************************************
>Derek Lyons - Aug 26 2005 - 1:30 pm
>------------------------------------------------------
>
>Dear Victoria;
>
>You are not an agency - you are private corporation /
>foundation misrepresenting yourself. If anyone is deceiving
>the unsuspecting public - it is you.
>
>
>Derek Lyons ( D. )
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.
>Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
>************************************************************************
>
>Derek Lyons, Like I said!
>
>"Also, this false, outdated, and incorrect information is being used by
>propaganda professionals, antagonists, and anarchists, who have been
>routinely and systematically using this information to deceive the
>unsuspecting public, and to slander the good name of the International
>Space Agency (ISA) Organization."
Repeating your misrepresentations does not make them truth.
I also wish to place into the official redord that you have edited my
message rather than quoting it.
D.
--
Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.
-Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
Oct 5th, 2004 JDL
Jeff Findley
"OM" <om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_research_facility.org> wrote
in message news:m6qug1t4f6q238vh3...@4ax.com...
> On 26 Aug 2005 11:50:24 -0700, "Victoria" <ad...@isa-hq.com> wrote:
>
> ,,Oh, lookie! The bimbo changed her e-mail address.
>
> <RE-PLONK>
>
> >For those seeking the truth, and not propaganda and lies, please see
> >this info:
>
> ...What are you going to do? Add all that bullshit at the bottom of
> every post? Don't waste our bandwidth, you ditz.
She's doing that to get their web site at the top of Google searches. If
you poke around, you'll even find "message boards" with one, single post
that directs you to their web site, like this one:
http://p201.ezboard.com/finternationalspaceagencyfrm76
It's clear that this "International Space Agency" isn't what it seems to be.
Richard Kaszeta
> This is the official International Space Agency (ISA) Organization, Web
> Gate:
> http://www.international-space-agency.org
I usually don't expect respected 'agencies' to have a .wav file ripped
from the movie "Air Force One" playing.
> Ad-Astra! "To The Stars!"
> In Peace For All Humanity! So Say We All!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Isn't that Battlestar Galactica?
--
Richard W Kaszeta
ri...@kaszeta.org
http://www.kaszeta.org/rich
Herb Schaltegger
(in article <y6xmzn4...@pomme.me.umn.edu>):
> In Peace For All Humanity! So Say We All!
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Isn't that Battlestar Galactica?
Yep. Sure sign of netkook-dom.
--
"Fame may be fleeting but obscurity is forever." ~Anonymous
"I believe as little as possible and know as much as I can."
~Todd Stuart Phillips
<www.angryherb.net>
OM
wrote:
>> So Say We All!
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Isn't that Battlestar Galactica?
...Yeah, it is. And to be honest, I'm really surprised that there's no
links to Hoagland's bullshit sites, or anything else to do with the
MUFON morons. This skank's posting have a 110% true ring to that sort
of nonsense, and I suspect what this "ISA" is all about is nothing
more than two nutballs who, in lieu of having sex with one another,
spread bullshit, lies and insane theories in hopes of somehow
collecting money to further their "cause".
...Egads. "Veronica" comes across like LaToilet, "Bombarmentfarce"
comes across as CT. When's the Cnhy Znkfba clone going to show up and
threaten to get the local police and the FBI on my ass?
Derek Lyons
>She's doing that to get their web site at the top of Google searches. If
>you poke around, you'll even find "message boards" with one, single post
>that directs you to their web site, like this one:
>
>http://p201.ezboard.com/finternationalspaceagencyfrm76
>
>It's clear that this "International Space Agency" isn't what it seems to be.
Yah. An 'international agency' that relies on Google groups and
ezboard for it's 'official' boards? Sounds like a scam to me.
Further signs of being kooks can be found in the claims on the website
above to wit: "This has truly been a war of wills and ideals!
However, in the end, the International Space Agency (ISA) Organization
will prevail over its adversaries and enemies;" LOL.
Here's another good one from that board; "This combined with
cooperation and support from Commercial & Private Enterprises from
people like that of Mr. Burt Rutan "Space Ship One & White Night", and
others like him around the World." They can't even get the bloody
name right! (SpaceShipOne or SpaceShip One and White Knight is what it
*should be*.)
Furthermore the what posts there are on the board consist almost
exclusively of posts by this 'Victoria' person... The bulk of the
forums are empty .
Victoria, you are a loon - and your own boards and posts show you to
be such.
john....@gmail.com
>
> When's the Cnhy Znkfba clone going to show up and
> threaten to get the local police and the FBI on my ass?
You're an embarrassment to Texas.
Challenger's Ghost
Andrew Gray
>
> If you poke around on the web site a bit more, you'll find that the Director
> (Chairman of the board & chief executive officer & founder) is Mr. Rick R.
> Dobson, Jr. Keep looking and you'll find copies of "letters" they've sent
> to NASA, ESA, etc. On the letter to ESA, you'll find the "private/unlisted"
> phone for Mr. Rick R. Dobson, Jr. If you do a reverse lookup on that number
> (minus the extension), you'll find that it belongs to this company:
Digging around on their phone number also finds this:
http://space-generation.net/forums/viewtopic.php?id=551
Oh, how I laughed.
Looking further, one of the Nebraska numbers turns out to go to this
chap: http://www.cjseng.com/ResumeofJeraldA.SchneiderPESE_000.htm -
a "managing partner". It looks like a small group at that company; note
Rose and our friend Rick as well.
If it wasn't so ineptly done, and if I could see a reason, I'd call it
an astroturfing organisation...
--
-Andrew Gray
andre...@dunelm.org.uk
Andrew Gray
>
> If it wasn't so ineptly done, and if I could see a reason, I'd call it
> an astroturfing organisation...
Browsing, I also found this gem:
http://groups.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.sightings/browse_frm/thread/25f9e4a74c965b6a/
--
-Andrew Gray
andre...@dunelm.org.uk
Andrew Gray
> an astroturfing organisation...
The trademark "International Space Agency", incidentally, was filed on
October 7 2002, claiming first use 1982... by a New York corporation.
http://www.international-space-agency.org/pages/1/index.htm tells us
they were founded in NY as a nonprofit.
The New York Department of State doesn't seem to have a record of them,
but it has one for a Space Agency Corp. Filed March 30 1999, inactive.
Don't think this is them; it seems to be a for-profit.
But look at the bottom of that page again. Who's this United Space
Federation? *They're* a NY nonprofit. And they incorporated in 1990, an
are active... so that much checks out with the stuff here:
http://www.international-space-agency.net/coi.html
Aha... they changed their name in May 2003, about when they started
showing up on the web. They look legit. Really pretty damn insane, but
legit; so not a weird astroturf organisation.
...a bunch of *freelance* kooks, instead.
--
-Andrew Gray
andre...@dunelm.org.uk
Herb Schaltegger
(in article <slrndgvdm3.db...@compsoc.dur.ac.uk>):
> . Really pretty damn insane, but
> legit; so not a weird astroturf organisation.
>
> ...a bunch of *freelance* kooks, instead.
Check out the Founder's Bio page and tell me there's not a little bit
of paranoia, narcissism and megalomania going on.
OM
<herb.sch...@NOSPAMgmail.com.INVALID> wrote:
>On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 19:41:39 -0500, Andrew Gray wrote
>(in article <slrndgvdm3.db...@compsoc.dur.ac.uk>):
>
>> . Really pretty damn insane, but
>> legit; so not a weird astroturf organisation.
>>
>> ...a bunch of *freelance* kooks, instead.
>
>Check out the Founder's Bio page and tell me there's not a little bit
>of paranoia, narcissism and megalomania going on.
...Or excessive drug abuse, natch.
gb
"OM" <om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_research_facility.org> wrote
in message news:m6qug1t4f6q238vh3...@4ax.com...
>
>
>>For those seeking the truth, and not propaganda and lies, please see
>>this info:
>
> ...What are you going to do? Add all that bullshit at the bottom of
> every post? Don't waste our bandwidth, you ditz.
>
> OM
>
Here I though that ISA was owned by Twentieth Century Fox (Planet of the
Apes series) ... in fact did not the Mark Walberg / Tim Burton remake use
the same designation -- sounds like rightful ownership to me.
Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation and Fox have more attorneys.
gb
Pat Flannery
Richard Kaszeta wrote:
>>Ad-Astra! "To The Stars!"
>>In Peace For All Humanity! So Say We All!
>>
>>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Isn't that Battlestar Galactica?
>
>
I think the motto should be "To Infinity- And Beyond!" :-)
Never give up! Never Surrender!
Pat
Neil Gerace
"Pat Flannery" <fla...@daktel.com> wrote in message
news:11h03v8...@corp.supernews.com...
Nunc est bibendum! And iacta alea est, too!
Dale
>Nunc est bibendum! And iacta alea est, too!
Dominus vobiscum et aloha oe :)
Dale
Rand Simberg
Findley" <jeff.f...@ugs.nojunk.com> made the phosphor on my monitor
glow in such a way as to indicate that:
>http://p201.ezboard.com/finternationalspaceagencyfrm76
>
>It's clear that this "International Space Agency" isn't what it seems to be.
Actually, it's exactly what it seems to be (which is to say, a weird
scam). What it's not is what they want us to think it is...
Brian Thorn
wrote:
>> Ad-Astra! "To The Stars!"
>> In Peace For All Humanity! So Say We All!
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Isn't that Battlestar Galactica?
At least they went a little more obscure than "Live long and prosper!"
Brian
Rémy MERCIER
Victoria Wrote:
>
> International Space Agency, I.S.A.
> Diplomatic Offices - Washington, D.C.
> Website: http://www.isa-hq.org
> Phone: (202) 917-0209
I suspect the CIA to secretly assist this delirious sect...
Because this is the best way to kill this great idea (I.S.A.) and keep
it under control. The Great Inquisitor (USA) need to kill this idea and
to keep his "leadership"... The concept is "vampirism".
Rémy
--
Rémy MERCIER
Rémy MERCIER
OM
<Rmy.MERCI...@spacebanter.com> wrote:
>I suspect the CIA to secretly assist this delirious sect...
...Funny, it looks to me to be more of a plot by the French excuse for
a "government".
Rémy MERCIER
> I suspect the CIA to secretly assist this delirious sect...-
>
> ....Funny, it looks to me to be more of a plot by the French excuse
> for
> a "government".
>
> OM
>
> --
>
> his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
>
> - General George S. Patton, Jr
Nonsense. Because this "ISA" is a gag (a joke) and, as a result,
your exclusive leadership (USA) is not threatened. Only when the World
Space Agency will be a serious organization then you will think that
the smart Froggies (like me, not you) are involved. But this time you
can think that your CIA is happy with this pseudo-ISA, Washingtown,
D.C.
Rémy
--
Rémy MERCIER
Herb Schaltegger
(in article <Rmy.MERCI...@spacebanter.com>):
> Nonsense. Because this "ISA" is a gag (a joke) and, as a result,
> your exclusive leadership (USA) is not threatened. Only when the World
>
> Space Agency will be a serious organization then you will think that
> the smart Froggies (like me, not you) are involved. But this time you
> can think that your CIA is happy with this pseudo-ISA, Washingtown,
> D.C.
> Rémy
Quit changing your email address, you nym-hopping Euro-troll.
<PLONK>
(For at least the fourth time, I'll note)
Ami Silberman
Commander Wack, Space Commander!
http://www.otistwelve.com/twelvemp3/masters/wackmp3/
http://www.otistwelve.com/twelvemp3/radio/wack/
OM
wrote:
...Bah. I'd sooner donate money for a NASSA revival than give one drop
of sweat off Andre's frog nuts to ISA.
OM
--
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m
his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb bastard die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society
Andre Lieven
OM (om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_research_facility.org) writes:
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:27:10 -0400, "Ami Silberman" <sil...@mitre.org>
> wrote:
>
>>For a much funnier Space Agency located in Omaha Nebraska, check out Space
>>Commander Wack, Space Commander!
>>http://www.otistwelve.com/twelvemp3/masters/wackmp3/
>>http://www.otistwelve.com/twelvemp3/radio/wack/
>
> ...Bah. I'd sooner donate money for a NASSA revival than give one drop
> of sweat off Andre's frog nuts to ISA.
It would be nice if you could ever get my ethnicity right.
Andre
--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
The Man Prayer, Red Green.
Ami Silberman
"OM" <om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_research_facility.org> wrote
in message news:f6p6h1tgiva359m93...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:27:10 -0400, "Ami Silberman" <sil...@mitre.org>
> wrote:
>
>>For a much funnier Space Agency located in Omaha Nebraska, check out Space
>>Commander Wack, Space Commander!
>>http://www.otistwelve.com/twelvemp3/masters/wackmp3/
>>http://www.otistwelve.com/twelvemp3/radio/wack/
>
> ...Bah. I'd sooner donate money for a NASSA revival than give one drop
> of sweat off Andre's frog nuts to ISA.
>
> OM
What? The only relationship between Space Commander Wack and the ISA is that
they are both from Omaha. (Space Commander Wack is a parody of old radio
serials and was put on by a radio station in Omaha.)
OM
wrote:
>It would be nice if you could ever get my ethnicity right.
...It would be nice if you pulled that Mountie out of your ass, too.
Andre Lieven
OM (om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_research_facility.org) writes:
> On 29 Aug 2005 20:24:47 GMT, dg...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andre Lieven)
> wrote:
>
>>It would be nice if you could ever get my ethnicity right.
>
> ...It would be nice if you pulled that Mountie out of your ass, too.
<Projection>
Scott Hedrick
"Andre Lieven" <dg...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
news:df0k71$gji$1...@theodyn.ncf.ca...
>
> OM (om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_research_facility.org)
> writes:
>> On 29 Aug 2005 20:24:47 GMT, dg...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Andre Lieven)
>> wrote:
>>
>>>It would be nice if you could ever get my ethnicity right.
>>
>> ...It would be nice if you pulled that Mountie out of your ass, too.
>
> <Projection>
Well, a full-grown Mountie up the ass would probably project at least a
little bit.
Andrew Gray
>>
>> ...a bunch of *freelance* kooks, instead.
>
> Check out the Founder's Bio page and tell me there's not a little bit
> of paranoia, narcissism and megalomania going on.
I was too busy giggling. I don't much deny they're mad; I just don't
think they're a front for anything, which surprises me a bit.
--
-Andrew Gray
andre...@dunelm.org.uk
Pat Flannery
Scott Hedrick wrote:
>>>...It would be nice if you pulled that Mountie out of your ass, too.
>>>
>>>
>><Projection>
>>
>>
>
>Well, a full-grown Mountie up the ass would probably project at least a
>little bit.
>
"And Martin Short stars as Francois, a mounted policeman with a
difference....and _what_ a difference!" :-)
Pat