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Pentcho Valev

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Apr 30, 2016, 5:21:43 AM4/30/16
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"Our new website includes the Flat Earth Society forums (a thriving online community since 2004) as well as..."

The Flat Earth Society is a natural opposition in Einstein schizophrenic world, less insane than the science establishment. For instance, the flat-Earth idea sounds much less idiotic than this:

http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~djmorin/chap11.pdf
Introduction to Classical Mechanics With Problems and Solutions, David Morin, Chapter 11, p. 14: "Twin A stays on the earth, while twin B flies quickly to a distant star and back. (...) For the entire outward and return parts of the trip, B does observe A's clock running slow, but enough strangeness occurs during the turning-around period to make A end up older. Note, however, that a discussion of acceleration is not required to quantitatively understand the paradox..."

In moments of mental aberration, Einsteinians do admit that their world is schizophrenic:

https://edge.org/response-detail/11356
John Baez: "One of the big problems in physics - perhaps the biggest! - is figuring out how our two current best theories fit together. On the one hand we have the Standard Model, which tries to explain all the forces except gravity, and takes quantum mechanics into account. On the other hand we have General Relativity, which tries to explain gravity, and does not take quantum mechanics into account. Both theories seem to be more or less on the right track - but until we somehow fit them together, or completely discard one or both, our picture of the world will be deeply schizophrenic."

http://lecercle.lesechos.fr/economie-societe/recherche-innovation/recherche/221160264/physique-est-schizophrene
Marc Lachièze-Rey: "La physique est schizophrène (...) ...relativiste le matin, quantique le soir... mais schizophrène lorsqu'il tente de concilier les deux visions. C'est là que réside le problème fondamental de la physique d'aujourd'hui."

Pentcho Valev

Sam Wormley

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Apr 30, 2016, 10:08:40 AM4/30/16
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On 4/30/16 4:21 AM, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> The Flat Earth Society


Ref: >
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/cms/index.php/about-the-society/history-and-mission

> Mission Statement
>
> The mission of the Flat Earth Society is to promote and initiate
> discussion of Flat Earth theory as well as archive Flat Earth
> literature. Our forums act as a venue to encourage free thinking and
> debate.
>
>
>
> History of the Flat Earth Society
>
> The modern age of the Flat Earth Society dates back to the early
> 1800s, when it was founded by Samuel Birley Rowbotham, an English
> inventor. Samuel Rowbotham's Flat Earth views were based largely on
> literal interpretation of Bible passages. His system, called Zetetic
> Astronomy, held that the earth is a flat disk centered at the North
> Pole and bounded along its 'southern' edge by a wall of ice, with the
> sun, moon, planets, and stars only a few hundred miles above the
> surface of the earth. After Rowbotham's death in 1884, followers of
> his Zetetic Astronomy founded the Universal Zetetic Society.
>
> Flat Earth theory spread to the United States, largely in the town of
> Zion, Illinois where Christian Catholic Apostolic Church founder John
> Alexander Dowie and later Wilbur Glenn Voliva promoted Flat Earth
> theory. Voliva died in 1942 and the church quickly disintegrated.
> Flat Earthism remained in Zion, gradually becoming less popular into
> the 1950s.
>
> The International Flat Earth Society was formally founded in 1956 by
> Samuel Shenton, a Fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society and the
> Royal Geographic Society. Shenton died in 1971 and Charles K. Johnson
> became president of the International Flat Earth Society. Johnson
> actively and charistmatically promoted the Society and, over time,
> its membership increased to over 3,000. His wife Marjory took an
> active role in the Society as well, often contributing articles to
> the Flat Earth Society Newsletter.
>
> In 1995, a fire destroyed the Johnson's home as well as all of the
> Flat Earth Society's library, archives and membership lists.
> Following a long period of poor health, Charles K. Johnson's wife
> Marjory Johnson passed away in 1996. He vowed to rebuild the society.
> Sadly, Charles K. Johnson passed away in 2001 at the age of 76,
> leaving the Society's future uncertain.
>
> After several years of inactivity, the Flat Earth Society was
> resurrected in 2004 and remains active today at
> theflatearthsociety.org. The Society officially reopened to new
> members on 30th October 2009.



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reber g=emc^2

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Apr 30, 2016, 4:35:49 PM4/30/16
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Their low wits,and never go up.TreBert

hanson

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Apr 30, 2016, 5:28:17 PM4/30/16
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<herbert...@gmail.com> "reber" whose "g=emc^2" is
short for "Glazier Exhibits Micro Cephalic Cretinism" (Zika),
wrote that:
>"TreBert's slow shits never go up", which is seen as soon as
>
<herbert...@gmail.com> Glazier, the loud mouth
the Jewish Jailbird, the Hatemonger, Liar, schizoid mental
cripple, Pervert Face-Shitter, criminal Graveyard vandal,
Bigot, Racist, War-monger & Communist in the persona of
:B::ert Glazier introduces himself with/as....
>
:B:: "I am a proud Jew with a Superiority complex &
:B:: an IQ of 122", & "I do know how everything works,.."
:B:: "My Grandfathers had tails". -- Trebert
:B:: "Being Jewish I know this is so very true" -- Bert.
:B:: "I'm a non-bible(torra) Jew. I'm the only Jew that
:B:: got 2 form letters from two Popes". Bert
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
>
:B:: "I'll be sitting on Benj's, Saul Levi's & HVAC's face
:B:: to take a shit & say: "Open your mouth wide".
:B:: "Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And laugh".
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
>
:B:: "I'm M&M's Clueless Fuck-faced turd".Bert.
:B:: I'm "Siegman Fraud", "Bert, the Bowel Movement".
:B:: "I gave G=EMC^2 (wrong & stolen) to the world"
:B:: "Israel will drop its first H-bomb 'David' ". TreBert
:B:: __"I'm glad when war breaks out"__ Bert
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
>
:B:: "Even the FBI has me as a trouble maker and
:B:: the FBI blocks my phone from calling them. "....
:B:: cuz "I was mixing sulfur, carbon & iron together
:B:: to make gun powder" ... & "while I was in custody
:B:: of Osceola Sheriff Bob Hansel, for thieving, his
:B:: deputies beat the shit out of me. So I bought a
:B:: 357 magnum for death threats by Sheriff Bob.
:B:: __** "Why am I not loved by all?" --- Bert **__.
>
about which ....
Moderator General "HVAC" <Mr....@gmail.com> aka
"Richard A." aka Harlow Campbell wrote:
>
"Bert, your opinion doesn't count"
"a trained cockroach is smarter than Bert"
"Bert, you are a clueless cocksucker"....
"Bert you are senile, dazed & confused"
"Bert, you are Fucked in the head.
>
"Bert is a racist. (And he's stupid too)"
"TreBert, you are one stupid cocksucker".
"Bert, Seriously. You are the stupidest cocksucking
moron who ever came down the Mass Pike."
"Bert, does your stupidity know no bounds?"
>
"Bert, you really are a pathetic excuse for a human
fucking being". "Bert you are an idiot."
"Bert, are the stupidest cocksucker on the planet."
"Spin THIS, Glazier, you fucking idiot." "Bert get
some spelling lessons, you feeble-minded fuck".
>
"Bert, you should be arrested"
"Bert, I will call the police and tell them that your
van seems to be a center for drug activity in the
Wal-Mart parking lot"... .... .... about which....
>
Glazier's ex-tutor Sam Wormley <swor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
"Glazier, do not post in a science newsgroup."
"Glazier, quit posting __ your Gutter Science__."
"Glazier, exit USENET. -- IOW Glazier, beat it!."
>
"Glazier, your science is far worse than the man's on the street."
"Glazier, your postings are old man's garbage."
"Glazier, your brain is entangled with a used garbage can."
>
"reber, take your 'you know it all thinking' to your grave" .
"reber, your horseshit gets old. Say hi to Allah for me.:
"reber, you don't believe in science."
>
Jim Pennino ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Glazier, you are a spamming piece of shit...
Your Cocaine usage explains a lot of your posts.
You are drunk again. Give up and kill yourself.
>
Astrophysicist "Saul Levy" <saul...@cox.net> wrote:
GLAZIER YOU ARE A LAMEbrain PIECE OF SHIT!
Saul Levy
>
Rocket Scientist Virdy "Mahipal" <mahip...@gmail.com> wrote:
I know, you reber are an idiot. Glazier, you are babbling
desperately. Is it sympathy or pity you're grasping for?
Stop it, either way.
>
benj" <nob...@gmail.com> wrote:
One only has to read Glazier's posts to see when Bert was lobotomized.
But Herb found poster "Double-A" who likes to be like Glazier,
but "Alkie-Alkie" is another kook who is as dumb as Bert is!
Now they party and frolic!...still waiting "to be loved by all"...
>
hanson wrote:
So Glazier, given your Jewish Superiority complex and
your IQ of 122 and you knowing how how everything works,
... how come ended up shitting into a bucket in a 25 year
old Minnie Mouse van that you use as your residence
on Wal-Mart's Parking Lot? ..... .... What went wrong, Glazier?
>
"What are they gonna say when Swine Glazier dies? Are
they gonna say he was a kind man? He was a wise man?
He had plans? He has wisdom? .... BULLSHIT, MAN!"...
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TAixFYnDh4> [D]
BULLSHIT,... because Swine Glazier DOES have plans
which Glazier, the Full-Swine, announced and posted at
the ripe age of eighty (80) when Glazier became a criminal
Graveyard Vandal who wrote:
>
(1)
On 25Mar2008 Swine Glazier wrote in:
https://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/3ffe7b2257cf8a9a
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/sci.physics/uYtpFTRnW4k/morPVyJ7_j8J
Hanson, I will piss on your grave. And have a good laugh
when it seeps down on your face. -- Bert.
>
Glazier's geriatric decay worsened, along with Glazier's chronic
alcoholism and Glazier, the Olde Kacker, became a Coprophile
IOW Glazier became a filthy Face Shitter at his age of 86, which
Glazier proudly announced & posted...
>
(2)
On 06Dec2014, when the Christian-Hater, Jew-Swine Glazier
said to "benj" <nob...@gmail.com>: Reality is you always
post under me for you are an ass kisser.
For Christmas I'll shit on your kisser.
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
Benj, you can thank me in advance. - TreBert. ... after
which...
>
Glazier, the Criminal Graveyard Vandal & Face Shitter got even
worse over the next year and at Glazier's age of 87, Glazier
widened his piggish Face-shitting habit, as seen when Glazier
threatened...
>
(3)
On 07Feb 2015 & on 08Feb2015, as Swine Glazier wrote:
Harlow HVAC, Mr....@gmail.com, Saul Levy <saul...@cox.net
& Jacoby Benj, <nob...@gmail.com>:
"I'll be sitting on your face to take a shit & say: "Open wide".
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
after...
>
(4)
The Criminal Swine Glazier refused to stop his practices & rejected
to be taken down, because Glazier at his age of 87+, Swine Glazier
labeled himself as "Siegman Fraud" which is synonym with "Bowel-
movement, actually saying that __ "Glazier is a piece of shit"__.
who, to boot, also announced that Glazier is a Transvestite who dons
female dresses and a Sarah Palin mask, saying that he has "nice
legs"...
>
hanson wrote:
Now Glazier, since you are a curse and an embarrassment, day-in
and day-out, to every Jew everywhere, has it dawned on you
sorry, geriatric Transie-Swine, that as soon as you have been
"put away and under" Google will remove ALL YOUR posts from
the USENET and the only thing that will remain and show your
legacy, is because:
>
Glazier the Swine fortunately posted:
.... "hanson made me famous"....
>
hanson wrote
So, Glazier you Swine, you should be grateful to me & not wish
me ill like you did above, in your sick hate mongering, since
it is only because of hanson, that Web searches show for:
>
--- Swine Glazier G=EMC^2 Cretin ---- 27'833 hits & rising
--- reber g=emc^2 Face-shitter & Vandal ---- 27'953 hits & rising
>
which is why the mental cripple <http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier>
badly needs to be administered to with
<http://tinyurl.com/G-EMC2-Recall-Therapy> ...
>
Now Glazier, you filthy Swine, "you will never be loved by all"
but incredibly, Glazier you have a few groupies who love you,
like:
>
"AA" <doub...@hush.com> Abner Afterduft", the "Alcoholic Addict"
alias <nob...@home.invalid> "Anon E. Mouse" the Yiddle pig,
plus restroom attendant kike Bodaisky, etc., including
>
Halbmutt Wabnigger, <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> who said:
"Jews are a residue of failed evolution"
>
& Islamist Mehram Maleki <clutterfre...@gmail.com>
who said: " 'Jews' lineage and law must be accounted as filth."
>
All of those are personal slaves of Faceshitter Glazier, who
demonstrate their worship & their devotion to their master
Glazier, by lying under & literally shit-eating Glazier's turd:
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
>
This bizarre perversion is well documented as seen here in:
<http://tinyurl.com/magnum-opus-the-rectal-jew>
<https://theendofzion.com/the-fecal-fixation-of-the-chosen-ones/>
<https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=jewish+cop

Pentcho Valev

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Jun 6, 2016, 3:54:35 AM6/6/16
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http://www.cnet.com/news/neil-degrasse-tyson-says-bad-education-creates-flat-earthers/
"Neil DeGrasse Tyson says bad education creates Flat-Earthers. Real people can frustrate scientists. Some real people believe that the Earth is a mere 6,000 years old. Some, including rapper B.O.B., believe that it's possible to fall off the end of the Earth because it's flat. Pointing to a globe doesn't seem to help. In a conversation with the Huffington Post, astrophysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson knows whom to blame for this parlous situation. "I blame the education system that can graduate someone into adulthood who cannot tell the difference between what is and is not true about this world," he said."

Correct. People naturally adopt the flat-earth idea because it is much less idiotic than what the educational system teaches:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2s1-RHuljo
Neil deGrasse Tyson: "As you travel faster (...) time ticks more slowly for you than it does for other people who are not."

http://www.bourbaphy.fr/damourtemps.pdf
Thibault Damour: "The paradigm of the special relativistic upheaval of the usual concept of time is the twin paradox. Let us emphasize that this striking example of time dilation proves that time travel (towards the future) is possible. As a gedanken experiment (if we neglect practicalities such as the technology needed for reaching velocities comparable to the velocity of light, the cost of the fuel and the capacity of the traveller to sustain high accelerations), it shows that a sentient being can jump, "within a minute" (of his experienced time) arbitrarily far in the future, say sixty million years ahead, and see, and be part of, what (will) happen then on Earth. This is a clear way of realizing that the future "already exists" (as we can experience it "in a minute")."

In other words, if one is to choose between the flat-earth idea and the idea of "a cosmic conspiracy of the highest order", the former is less detrimental to the human mind:

https://www.amazon.com/Death-Black-Hole-Cosmic-Quandaries/dp/039335038X
Neil deGrasse Tyson, Death by Black Hole: And Other Cosmic Quandaries, pp. 123-124: "If everyone, everywhere and at all times, is to measure the same speed for the beam from your imaginary spacecraft, a number of things have to happen. First of all, as the speed of your spacecraft increases, the length of everything - you, your measuring devices, your spacecraft - shortens in the direction of motion, as seen by everyone else. Furthermore, your own time slows down exactly enough so that when you haul out your newly shortened yardstick, you are guaranteed to be duped into measuring the same old constant value for the speed of light. What we have here is a cosmic conspiracy of the highest order."

https://plus.maths.org/content/einstein-relativity
David Tong: "Special relativity is where the famous equation E=mc^2 comes from. The central idea of the theory is that there is a speed limit in our Universe. The laws of physics conspire so that nothing can ever travel faster than the speed of light."

http://www.redorbit.com/news/space/1113378923/cosmic-yarns-science-fiction-and-the-cosmic-speed-limit-042715/
Robert Scherrer: "In fact, the laws for adding and subtracting speeds have to conspire to keep the speed of the light the same no matter how fast or in what direction an observer is moving. The only way to make this happen is for space and time to expand or contact as objects move."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc3-29dguFs
Brian Greene: "Einstein proposed a truly stunning idea - that space and time could work together, constantly adjusting by exactly the right amount so that no matter how fast you might be moving, when you measure the speed of light it always comes out to be 671000000 miles per hour."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/special-relativity-nutshell.html
Brian Greene: "If space and time did not behave this way, the speed of light would not be constant and would depend on the observer's state of motion. But it is constant; space and time do behave this way. Space and time adjust themselves in an exactly compensating manner so that observations of light's speed yield the same result, regardless of the observer's velocity."

Einsteinians do admit that their world is schizophrenic and science is dying - then why should the flat-earth idea be attacked?

http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/09/05/perimeter-institute-and-the-crisis-in-modern-physics/
Neil Turok: "It's the ultimate catastrophe: that theoretical physics has led to this crazy situation where the physicists are utterly confused and seem not to have any predictions at all."

http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=7266
Peter Woit: "As far as this stuff goes, we're now not only at John Horgan's "End of Science", but gone past it already and deep into something different."

http://archipope.over-blog.com/article-12278372.html
"Nous nous trouvons dans une période de mutation extrêmement profonde. Nous sommes en effet à la fin de la science telle que l'Occident l'a connue », tel est constat actuel que dresse Jean-Marc Lévy-Leblond, physicien théoricien, épistémologue et directeur des collections scientifiques des Editions du Seuil."

https://edge.org/response-detail/11356
John Baez: "One of the big problems in physics - perhaps the biggest! - is figuring out how our two current best theories fit together. On the one hand we have the Standard Model, which tries to explain all the forces except gravity, and takes quantum mechanics into account. On the other hand we have General Relativity, which tries to explain gravity, and does not take quantum mechanics into account. Both theories seem to be more or less on the right track - but until we somehow fit them together, or completely discard one or both, our picture of the world will be deeply schizophrenic." x

http://lecercle.lesechos.fr/economie-societe/recherche-innovation/recherche/221160264/physique-est-schizophrene
Marc Lachièze-Rey: "La physique est schizophrène (...) ...relativiste le matin, quantique le soir... mais schizophrène lorsqu'il tente de concilier les deux visions. C'est là que réside le problème fondamental de la physique d'aujourd'hui." x

http://negrjp.fotoblog.uol.com.br/images/photo20150819051851.jpg

Pentcho Valev

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Pentcho Valev wrote:

> http://www.cnet.com/news/neil-degrasse-tyson-says-bad-education-creates-
flat-earthers/
> "Neil DeGrasse Tyson says bad education creates Flat-Earthers. Real
> people can frustrate scientists. Some real people believe that the
> Earth is a mere 6,000 years old. Some, including rapper B.O.B., believe
> that it's possible to fall off the end of the Earth because it's flat.
> Pointing to a globe doesn't seem to help. In a conversation with the
> Huffington Post, astrophysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson knows whom to blame
> for this parlous situation. "I blame the education system that can
> graduate someone into adulthood who cannot tell the difference between
> what is and is not true about this world," he said."

Excellent post, hahahahaaaa. They don't know because hey dont know shit on
what is true. Funds and money making thats real.

http://yournewswire.com/vaccine-victims-sue-government-for-3-billion/
http://yournewswire.com/cern-debunks-climate-change-theory/

Tank you Pentcho, you are indispensable in Physics.

green

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Jun 6, 2016, 8:44:25 AM6/6/16
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Gary Harnagel wrote:

> On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 3:04:43 AM UTC-6, link wrote:
>>
>> Pentcho Valev wrote:
>> >
>> > [The usual regurgitated stuff]
>>
>> Excellent post, hahahahaaaa. They don't know because hey dont know shit
>> on what is true. Funds and money making thats real.
>>
>> http://yournewswire.com/vaccine-victims-sue-government-for-3-billion/
>> http://yournewswire.com/cern-debunks-climate-change-theory/
>>
>> Tank you Pentcho, you are indispensable in Physics.
>
> No, he isn't. He is a cancer on this group. But YOU are indispensable
> to dispensing information about global warming pseudo-science. But here
> is a more mainstream link:
>
> http://cloud.web.cern.ch/cloud
>
> "Atmospheric aerosols and their effect on clouds are poorly understood
> and yet important for climate. Indeed, they are recognised by the
> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC 2013(link is external))
> as the largest source of uncertainty in present radiative forcing and in
> climate projections over the 21st century."

And who is spreading that poisonous aerosols in the sky, mister Gary?
Thanks, you are indispensable likewise, by making the point clearer. Which
is that Modern Science is nothing but capitalist for profit. The cynical
profiteers, Gary. There is no scince in Modern Science. If you want
science you must go back in time before ancient Greece, when they built
the pyramids in Egypt and other places under the sea. Thanks, you are
great.

Sam Wormley

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Jun 6, 2016, 9:08:31 AM6/6/16
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On 6/6/16 2:54 AM, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> Some real people believe that the Earth is a mere 6,000 years old.


Yup, and the evidence that the earth (and solar system) is about 4.566
billion years old. Science is about the evidence from observation and
experiment.
http://www.amazon.com/Age-Earth-G-Brent-Dalrymple/dp/0804723311

jay moseley

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Jun 6, 2016, 9:39:25 AM6/6/16
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Pentcho Valev wrote about flat earth society...

There is another cult very similar to that of flat earthers.
They believe that the earth does not rotate on its axis
and cite the Michaelson Morley experiment as proof of
their divine beliefs.
Calling this imaginary non rotating earth, an "inertial
frame". This cult, called relativists, claim that their prophet
Albert dictated this truth in his religious tract called
Special Relativity.

link

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Jun 7, 2016, 9:32:02 AM6/7/16
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Gary Harnagel wrote:

> On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 6:44:23 AM UTC-6, green wrote:
>>
>> Gary Harnagel wrote:
>> >
>> > "Atmospheric aerosols and their effect on clouds are poorly
>> > understood and yet important for climate. Indeed, they are recognised
>> > by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC 2013(link is
>> > external)) as the largest source of uncertainty in present radiative
>> > forcing and in climate projections over the 21st century."
>>
>> And who is spreading that poisonous aerosols in the sky, mister Gary?
>
> Pine trees, imbecile.

And who is the biggest imbecile in this group, gary, not known the basics
in real physics, that the poisonous chemtrails spread by aeroplanes are
AEROSOLS. HAHAHAHAH, unfortunately for me I hit the village idiot in here.

You have lots to learn in mathematics and physics, young boy. You are so
fucking stupid.

link

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Jun 7, 2016, 10:15:23 AM6/7/16
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Why this is marked as abuse? It has been marked as abuse.
Report not abuse
Gary Harnagel wrote:

> "If you can't be interesting without profanity, then let's face it:
> You're not that interesting." -- Michael Hyatt

How about now?
http://yournewswire.com/body-of-doctor-who-linked-vaccines-to-autism-found-floating-in-river/
http://yournewswire.com/human-pig-hybrids-growing-in-us-labs/

still no? I mean, you must have an opinion, something, an argument.

Pentcho Valev

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Jun 8, 2016, 2:57:09 AM6/8/16
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Einsteinians are not just brainwashing the gullible world - they are mercilessly destroying any remnants of rationality that could some day become dangerous for their cult:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2016/06/07/escape-from-a-black-hole-not-in-this-universe/
Ethan Siegel: "So why, then, did Stephen Hawking announce that it might be possible to escape from a black hole? Why did he announce, on stage at Harvard:

"They are not the eternal prisons they were once thought. If you feel you are trapped in a black hole, don’t give up. There is a way out."

Because he wasn’t talking about you. He was talking about the information that makes you up at the moment you fell in: when you crossed the event horizon. When objects fall into a black hole, they possess all sorts of information: was it matter or antimatter that fell in; baryons or leptons; electrons or muons; neutrinos or neutrons. Was the book that fell in The Grapes Of Wrath or The Count Of Monte Cristo? And what of the human who fell in; who was it and what were they like? [...] What Hawking’s latest paper actually says is much less fantastic than escape from a black hole; it says that whenever a new particle falls into the black hole, it changes the information encoded on the black hole’s surface. And since a black hole surface (and surface area, for that matter) is dependent on the mass/energy inside of it, as it decays, that information should make it out, scrambled but encoded in the outgoing Hawking radiation. Just as a burned book contains the information in the pages (albeit in a not-very-useful format), the outgoing Hawking radiation might encode the information about what fell in after all." [end of quotation]

Ethan Siegel:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSvjJp-VEAAXmsg.jpg

Pentcho Valev

reber g=emc^2

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Jun 8, 2016, 3:40:51 PM6/8/16
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GOPers control all USA thinking.Those that go with flat Earth are the 1,000 GOPers that are spending LIGO's $450,000,000 Thats a given. TreBert

Sam Wormley

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Jun 8, 2016, 3:50:36 PM6/8/16
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On 6/8/16 2:40 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> Those that go with flat Earth are the 1,000 GOPers that are spending LIGO's $450,000,000 Thats a given.



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hanson

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Jun 8, 2016, 3:58:41 PM6/8/16
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<herbert...@gmail.com> "reber g=emc^2" Glazier, the
loud mouthing low wit Twit, wrote:
GOP is "Glazier ON Pills". Thats a given.... which can be
seen as soon as...
>
<herbert...@gmail.com> Glazier, the loud mouth,
but incredibly, Glazier, you have a few groupies who love you,
and haved become, voluntarily, your personal slaves of
Faceshitter Glazier, who demonstrate their worship & their
devotion to their master Glazier, by lying under & literally
shit-eating Glazier's turds:
<http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8MGOU-CQAEaZw4.jpg>
such as:
>
=1=
"AA" <doub...@hush.com> "Abner Afterduft" & "Alcoholic Addict"
alias <nob...@home.invalid> "Anon E. Mouse" the Yiddle pig,
who si a Dumpster-diver, but comes to Glazier's help 24/7.
>
=2=
Halbmutt Wabnigger, <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> who said:
"Jews are a residue of failed evolution"
>
=3=
Islamist Mehram Maleki <clutterfre...@gmail.com>
the Gay Iranian who said: " 'Jews' lineage and law must be
accounted as filth." , but who is an active Slave recruiter
for his guru Glazier.
>
=4=
Jeff-Relf.Me <@.>, the "Rectal Vacuumist (Seattle) who not
only eats Glazier's turds, but greedily sucks then out of Glazier's
sphincter, especially when they Methamphetamine preloaded.
>
=5=
and even earlier, ironically, signed up was kike "Bodaisky",
who lied and claimed to be "Bo Dai" from China, but swas
in fact Fabian Russell" <ro...@localhost.localdomain> aka
"Fagie Bodaisky", who lives off the tips he gets from being
a rest-room attendant in a NY Bath house for gay Jews.

Pentcho Valev

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Jun 9, 2016, 2:05:08 AM6/9/16
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Einsteinians end up in complete madness but carry the world along with them:

http://www.catholic.org/news/technology/story.php?id=69335
"Michio Kaku believes he has found evidence for God in his work. Kaku is a well respected scientist, who has helped pioneer String Theory of the universe, the idea that the universe is formed by many different dimensions of space and time. String Theory is very complex and requires a significant background in physics to explain, but it is favored by many scientists because it succinctly answers many of the questions they have about the universe. [...] While working on String Theory, Kaku, discovered what he sees as evidence that the universe is created by an intelligence, rather than merely formed by random forces. He suggests he can explain it by what he calls, "primitive semi-radius tachyons." We do not yet have a succinct explanation of this idea from Kaku, other than he's referring to tachyons, which are theoretical particles that unbind particles from one another. Without getting into physics itself, Kaku concludes that we live in a Matrix-style universe, created by an intelligence. "I have concluded that we are in a world made by rules created by an intelligence", he said. "Believe me, everything that we call chance today won't make sense anymore. To me it is clear that we exists in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuxFXHircaI
Michio Kaku, Brian Cox, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Brian Greene, Lisa Randall: "Now, listen carefully. The faster you move, the heavier you get. Light travels at the same speed no matter how you look at it. No matter how I move relative to you light travels at the same speed. No matter who is doing the measurement and no matter what direction you are moving the speed of light is the same. The speed of light is the same no matter what direction or how fast... As you travel faster time slows down. Everything slows down. Everything slows down. Time slows down when you move. Time passes at a different rate. Clocks run slow. It's a monumental shift in how we see the world. It's a beautiful piece of science. It's a beautifully elegant theory. It's a beautiful piece of science. It's a beautiful piece..."

Pentcho Valev

Sam Wormley

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Jun 9, 2016, 10:54:57 AM6/9/16
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On 6/9/16 1:05 AM, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> Michio Kaku, Brian Cox, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Brian Greene, Lisa Randall: "Now, listen carefully. The faster you move, the heavier you get.


Of Course, Pentcho, relativistic mass increase is observed everyday in
particle accelerators.

reber g=emc^2

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Jun 10, 2016, 2:08:48 PM6/10/16
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Just think its not done with the use of waves Gravity force creates weight,and time.So does acceleration.Think inertia and gravity linked.That is exactly what Einstein and I talked about in 1952 on the deck I built for Erma Ring in Newton. I had my G=EMC^2 in 1946.I always loved gravity.I was always ahead in science I think over imperial thinkers heads,and always will.Even when I'm dead my thoughts will live on.Treb has been a big help O Ya TreBert

Sam Wormley

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Jun 10, 2016, 2:13:53 PM6/10/16
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On 6/10/16 1:08 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
>
> Just think its not done with the use of waves Gravity force creates weight,and time.So does acceleration.Think inertia and gravity linked.That is exactly what Einstein and I talked about in 1952 on the deck I built for Erma Ring in Newton. I had my G=EMC^2 in 1946.I always loved gravity.I was always ahead in science I think over imperial thinkers heads,and always will.Even when I'm dead my thoughts will live on.Treb has been a big help O Ya TreBert
>


When you RIP, so will every idea you ever had. O ya.

Double-A

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Jun 10, 2016, 2:59:42 PM6/10/16
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On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 7:54:57 AM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > On 6/9/16 1:05 AM, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> > > Michio Kaku, Brian Cox, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Brian Greene, Lisa Randall: "Now, listen carefully. The faster you move, the heavier you get.
> >
> >
> > Of Course, Pentcho, relativistic mass increase is observed everyday in
> > particle accelerators.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
> > to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
> > community, and physics-related social issues.
>
> Just think its not done with the use of waves Gravity force creates weight,and time.So does acceleration.Think inertia and gravity linked.That is exactly what Einstein and I talked about in 1952 on the deck I built for Erma Ring in Newton.


You talked to Einstein in Newton? How ironic!


> I had my G=EMC^2 in 1946.I always loved gravity.I was always ahead in science I think over imperial thinkers heads,and always will.Even when I'm dead my thoughts will live on.Treb has been a big help O Ya TreBert


Write it all down in a book, Bert. Publish or perish!

Double-A

Sam Wormley

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Jun 10, 2016, 4:54:58 PM6/10/16
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Bert will Perish.

reber g=emc^2

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Jun 10, 2016, 5:22:33 PM6/10/16
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AA With 23 years of posting 28,000 posts I think a book could be made.I wrote only two novels and they never got published(so far) I will see Spielberg soon on my sci-fiction kids short novels.Sandy thinks they are good. I'm not dead yet. Keep in mind I'm only 19minutes to Hollywoid.However my becoming Fullerton mayor is #1 TreBert

Sam Wormley

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Jun 10, 2016, 5:29:55 PM6/10/16
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On 6/10/16 4:22 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote:
> AA With 23 years of posting 28,000 posts I think a book could be made.I wrote only two novels and they never got published(so far) I will see Spielberg soon on my sci-fiction kids short novels.Sandy thinks they are good. I'm not dead yet. Keep in mind I'm only 19minutes to Hollywoid.However my becoming Fullerton mayor is #1 TreBert

No reber, you are dropping dead in October.

Double-A

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Jun 11, 2016, 3:44:39 PM6/11/16
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Have you considered vanity publishing? It might be the only way. Remember, even Newton would have never gotten his Principia published if Halley (Halley's Comet) hadn't paid for it!

Double-A

olli...@gmail.com

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Jun 24, 2020, 8:42:38 AM6/24/20
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On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 8:08:31 AM UTC-5, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 6/6/16 2:54 AM, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> > Some real people believe that the Earth is a mere 6,000 years old.
>
>
> Yup, and the evidence that the earth (and solar system) is about 4.566
> billion years old. Science is about the evidence from observation and
> experiment.
> http://www.amazon.com/Age-Earth-G-Brent-Dalrymple/dp/0804723311
>
>

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olli...@gmail.com

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On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 2:44:39 PM UTC-5, Double-A wrote:

>
> Have you considered vanity publishing? It might be the only way. Remember, even Newton would have never gotten his Principia published if Halley (Halley's Comet) hadn't paid for it!
>
> Double-A

Speaking of publishing, Double-A

Book: The Age of the Earth
https://www.amazon.com/Age-Earth-G-Brent-Dalrymple/dp/0804723311

Quote--

This is a definitive, masterly history and synthesis of all that has been said (by theologians and scientists) and is known (to science) about the question, How old is the Earth? It explains in a simple and straightforward way the evidence and logic that have led scientists to conclude that the Earth and the other parts of the Solar System are not several thousand years old, as some today would have it, but four and one-half billion years old.

It is a fascinating story, but not so simple as single measurement. Our universe is a large, old, and complicated place. Earth and other bodies have endured a long and sometimes violent history, the events of which have frequently obscured the record that we seek to decipher. Although in detail the journey into Earth's past requires considerable scientific skill, knowledge, and imagination, the story is not so complicated that it cannot be explained to someone who wants to know and understand the basic evidence. This book, then, has been written for people with some modest background in science, but at a level that will allow the material to be useful and accessible to those without a deep knowledge of geology or physics or mathematics.

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Title: The Age of the Earth
ISBN-13: 9780804715690
ISBN-10: 0804715696
Author: G. Brent Dalrymple
Edition: 1
Binding: Hardcover
Publisher: Stanford University Press
Published: July 1991
List Price: $95.00

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Jun 24, 2020, 11:01:35 AM6/24/20
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olli...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 2:44:39 PM UTC-5, Double-A wrote:

Responding to 4 year old posts, senile ass hat?


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