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Archimedes Plutonium

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Newsgroups: sci.physics
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 16:49:22 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: NK + China, crossed Trump's red-line-- "ICBMs- it will never happen",
well it happened and Trump is weak weak weak weak weak
From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com>
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Trump, the balsa wood presidency

NK with ICBMs, Trump says-- it will never happen

But then, no-one knew Trump was just a powder puff talker with the strength of balsa wood

Is the Trump tower also made out of balsa wood just like its boss?

A real president, not a powder puff alzheimer stand in-- would annouce today::

No more imports of anything that is made in China, none, zero, zip imports

And announce to the world-- any NK launch

YOU LAUNCH, WE LAUNCH

This is how you keep the world safe from nuclear world war 3.

You always actively stop and prevent

AP

Newsgroups: sci.physics
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 19:18:12 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Donald Trump, the balsa wood president, who could not -- CUT ALL
IMPORT TRADE WITH CHINA
From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com>
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Donald Trump, the balsa wood president, who could not -- CUT ALL IMPORT TRADE WITH CHINA

Hey Trump, Donald Trump, the US President

Your red line with North Korea has been crossed, they have a ICBM, you said would never happen

It has happened,,...

Even Obama had more strength than you, Donald, for Obama did something about it-- ship the chemicals

While you, Donald does nothing about NK, except, yappity yap New York style yappity yap

Donald spends more time tweeting against Rosie O'Donnel then Donald spends on "being president"

What is so dam difficult about Ending all Imports from China

Why not say, Donald, -- No more imports from China

Let China marry NK, and stop making the West such laughable fools

At Least Obama did something when his red line was crossed

But Donald is so pathetically weak, miserably weak, that he cannot say the words "Cut all import trade with China"

What is so hard about that Donald

Cut all Import Trade with China

Cut all Import Trade with China

Cut all Import Trade with China

Donald, do you think your Alzheimers mind can remember that

Or, be the Balsa Wood President, Donald Trump

Show the world, how the USA has devolved into babbling infantile Alzheimer blubbering

What is your next tweet there Donald? That Rosie is fat, that Hillary is crook, that Jared is nice and sweet?

Be the Balsa Wood President, the president who saw a tin badge country of North Korea get the better of him, couldn't even get the better of North Korea, that is what the history books will say of Donald

Obvious to anyone outside the White House-- Cut all Import trade with China

Cut all Import Trade with China

Cut all Import Trade with China

Cut all Import Trade with China

AP


Newsgroups: sci.math
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 04:35:18 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: when you do not plan for maximum averting of nuclear WW3, do not be
surprised when it comes quickly
From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com>
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when you do not plan for maximum averting of nuclear WW3, do not be surprised when it comes quickly

Try to picture alien civilizations, all of them more advanced than we are, that survived.

They to had a time period in which they discovered nuclear weapons, built them. Some had nuclear war and they either perished or eventually came out of it.

But all of them went through a time period in which a few countries had nuclear weapons and the vast majority of countries did not have nuclear weapons. The ones that did, tried to keep the have-nots from acquiring.

Some alien planets never had a nuclear war, and are flourishing.

My thesis, is that those who never had nuclear war, treaded a logical fine line in their history, to avoid a nuclear war.

They realized the have-nots would want the weapons.

All of them would have gone through a MAD period, mutual assured destruction, for which many came out of MAD without a war, and then the new period of when every little tin buck two country wants nuclear weapons.

When a lot of countries have nuclear, the chances of nuclear war are that much more increased.

So to diminish the chance of nuclear war, we need to have as few of countries with nukes as possible.

There has to be a disincentive built into the social structure to make countries not go nuclear. What that disincentive is::

a) no trading with them
b) they launch, we launch to knock out theirs

Troubles in our System, at the moment, which increases the likelihood of nuclear war

A) we foolishly trade with foes, making our enemy more rich, in order to better attack us in the end
B) we do not make it clear to anyone striving to attain nukes, that you launch, we launch

A Pearl Harbor type of surprise attack in WW2, would by 2017 and beyond, be a nuclear tipped missile on the USA.

And what have we done to prevent that? Nothing but a crazy trade sanctions applied sporadically. That is the sum total of what we have done to prevent a nuclear war.

And it is obvious of how crazy we have been in stopping a WW3, because weekly now NK is testing ICBMs. And I heard some days ago that Iran is sending up a ICBM for a satellite (another excuse).

At this rate, humanity and Earth can anticipate a nuclear world war, almost guaranteed.

What is the Minimum Strategy to avert WW3?

It is this, as far as I can reckon::

1) keep MAD in tact
2) separate out all foes, and never import anything of theirs, the last thing you want to do is enrich your enemy, if this had been practiced by 1950, China would still be a backward nation having fights and disputes with Russia. But because of crazy capitalists in the West backed by crazy Nobel Economics prizes saying "free trade, free trade" we have enriched our biggest enemy and having a Second Korean War only nuclear this time.

3) Along with MAD, is a concept of You Launch, We Launch. NK or Iran test fires, then we launch to knock it out of the sky, along with destroying the missile site.

What Earth and humanity is doing now, is on a course of World War 3 Nuclear, we are lurching ever more quickly to a WW3.

We have treated nuclear weapons without any future well thought out gameplan of averting war.

AP

Newsgroups: sci.math
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:24:00 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: what was the title of that French movie, depiction of post nuke war
Re: when you do not plan for maximum averting of nuclear WW3, do not be
surprised when it comes quickly
From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com>
Injection-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 22:24:00 +0000


what was the title of that French movie, depiction of post nuke war Re: when you do not plan for maximum averting of nuclear WW3, do not be surprised when it comes quickly

I called it Physics-Economics, because the trouble with economics as a science, before 2017, is that they never factored in the most obvious looming disaster into the theories of economics-- nuclear war. And in fact, old economics, the stuff that won Nobel Economics prizes, is largely to blame for a nuclear war, should it go off. Pre-2017 economics theory was aiding, facilitating a nuclear war to come about, with its nonsense of --free trade -- globalization. Those crappy false notions brings the world ever more closer to a nuclear war starting. Economics, math, and physics played a large role in the birth of nuclear weapons and the spread of nuclear weapons, and god forbid it, in the start of a nuclear war. Anyone of a logical mind would think that instead of Free trade, it is better to have Trade Only with Friends, never import from foes. For when you import from foes, you make your enemies stronger, so that some day, your enemies kill you.

Economists of the past, accelerated the day that a nuclear war comes.


I realize most of my readers are far far younger than me. Most never saw the movies and TV shows about a Nuclear War. Even though, there were very very few of them, and then, all of a sudden, no-one it seemed produced any more movies or TV shows depicting the aftermath of a Nuclear War.

The last two I remember seeing was about 1970s, the depiction on TV of a Kansas farm where a nuclear war had ended civilization as we know it, and the program was all about that Kansas farm and a quiet suffering-- children saying-- I will never experience love or a family.

Then around 1990s, I watched a French movie, which I never will forget, where men in gangs lived in the upper floors of tall buildings and would go out daily to kill other humans and drag their corpses up into the tall building to eat. (The French like to embellish the aftermath of a Nuclear War, more so, than the sedate USAers with their Kansas farm).

Then, it seemed to stop, that no-one was making Nuclear War movies, not TV, not movies. Perhaps sales on such movies are low revenue-- for who wants to see a depressing -- end of world horror story.

So, I think I ought to fill in some gaps here, so as to remind people that this Iran or this North Korea can mushroom into. We naturally want to block out of sight, out of mind, a horror, and the worst horror of this world-- nuclear world war 3.

So, let me wax and wane on what I think would happen in a Nuclear World War 3 once ended.

1. If you are still alive, after a nuclear world war 3, there is not much to cheer about, except, perhaps if you are off on some remote island never dependent on civilization in the first place. That life goes on pretty much as before, except that the fish or food are irradiated and you end up with cancer at a young age.

2. If alive after a nuke war, you will wish you are dead, instead of alive. And, many people will take their own life.

3. Biology talks about extinction of species, and we see it commonplace these days, the tigers, hippos, elephants, rhinos, giraffes, all going extinct. And we know why-- humans are extincting them. But we never focus on the idea that wastes can extinct a species. That is what is so vastly stark about a extinction due to waste, whether nuclear waste or just plain ordinary garbage waste. In historical time, whenever a civilization was drowning in waste, they up and moved elsewhere, where it is cleaner. After a nuke war, trouble is, you cannot see the waste, it is everywhere, no place to move to cleanliness. Life, after a nuke war, is like humanity living in a sewer pit. And like in the French movie, not knowing if the guy nearby wants to kill you for food.

More later,,,,,,,,,,,  this stuff is gruesome,,,,,,,,,

AP

Archimedes Plutonium

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On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 5:32:53 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:

>
> Then around 1990s, I watched a French movie, which I never will forget, where men in gangs lived in the upper floors of tall buildings and would go out daily to kill other humans and drag their corpses up into the tall building to eat. (The French like to embellish the aftermath of a Nuclear War, more so, than the sedate USAers with their Kansas farm).
>

Arindam thinks the French movie was called Arachne, but somehow the letter "R" sticks in my mind as the first letter of this movie. Anyone remember?

Arindam Banerjee
7:26 PM (4 hours ago)


That will be giving that lying cowardly no-name cretin a real name that he
richly deserves. For his sedulous distortions, lies, and malevolence.

The creep has been trying to foist my identity upon someone else!

Archimedes Plutonium

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Which is better:: the way we go now-- globalization, free trade // or, trade only with friends, never import from enemies

What the world has to answer now, to keep it safe from nuclear war, is whether we should continue to do what we do-- free trade, globalization, and sanctions only when a country really is far out of line like Russia, North Korea, Iran.

Or, do we do this-- which I recommend--

Trade only with friends, export to enemies, but never import from enemies. This keeps the world divided between us and our friends, Europe, Japan, Canada, Australia where we trade only among ourselves and let our enemies alone, with only occasional exports to them, never imports

This also would mean the UN dissolved and a UN of Friendlies Only, that better ties and bonds the Friendlies together even more, and cuts out this nonsense of trying to get Russia and China aboard on every major decision. Current UN is a "useless body", and to make it a powerful meaningful body, establish the UN as the UN of Friendlies Only.

Now, the big question which I have no science data to decide which is better is the question of Friendly trade only or, whether our current free trade and globalization except in misbehavior such as Russia, NK, Iran.

Which is better to avert a Nuclear World War? I believe it is Friendly trade ONLY makes the world safer from a nuclear holocaust apocalypse.

I am guessing Friendly Trade is better because, Free Trade only makes the enemies stronger, and stronger to do their evil deed of killing you. I believe countries and nations can be scientifically reduced to the actions of single individual humans. So let us say USA is me and Russia is you and China is him over there. Let us say that Russia and China were your enemies a few years ago and now you trade with them. By trading, you are enriching them, are you not, for China was a backward country until the USA allowed China poor quality items flood the USA markets. Sure, China is happy, but then, when asked to stop North Korea, missiles, China is back to being its old time enemy again, as if trading with China did absolutely nothing but make them rich off the backs of the West.

This is why I say, we are pell mell accelerating towards a nuclear world war, for the West has never sat down and said-- these items are what we must do to avert the Nuke War.
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Anyone seen a French Movie circa 1995 or thereabouts. It was a movie about France where the people ended up living in the upper floors of tall buildings and where they would go out of their nest to hunt and kill humans in the street below and drag their corpse up into their nest.

Yes, it was about a Nuke War and what happens afterwards.

AP

Archimedes Plutonium

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THEMROC was the movie, trying to remember // trade only with friends, never import from enemies

On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 8:31:55 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
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> >
> > Then around 1990s, I watched a French movie, which I never will forget, where men in gangs lived in the upper floors of tall buildings and would go out daily to kill other humans and drag their corpses up into the tall building to eat. (The French like to embellish the aftermath of a Nuclear War, more so, than the sedate USAers with their Kansas farm).
> >
> > Then, it seemed to stop, that no-one was making Nuclear War movies, not TV, not movies. Perhaps sales on such movies are low revenue-- for who wants to see a depressing -- end of world horror story.
> >

Are you in anyway like me when I forget something. And what I forget is really not at all important in the grand scheme of things. I mean I could easily just-- let it go--. But no, not me, I seem to want to know that forgotten item and will spend enormous time in digging up the forgotten data. Just my personality that I do not want gaps of thoughts of my mind.

So I did the sensible thing first by asking if anyone saw such a film.

Then I went to Google to search under Advanced Search but it turns out that Google no longer is doing newsgroup searches. Those used to be extremely helpful and time saving.

So, the last resort, go to my archive and try to figure the year and month that I wrote this stuff before. Luckily I picked the correct year and luckily it was early in the year.

I used the search term just "French" for I did not know if I used "movie" or "film" but would have used French.

And this came up in early 1996::


From: Archimedes...@dartmouth.edu (Archimedes Plutonium)
Newsgroups: alt.sci.physics.plutonium,rec.arts.movies.current films,sci.bio.ethology
Subject: Looking for the name of a French movie seen 1976
Date: 14 Feb 1996 02:03:06 GMT
Organization: Plutonium College
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Message-ID: (4frfsq$u...@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>

  On Sunday Feb.11, 1996 I saw two French movies. SHOOT THE PIANO
PLAYER and WEEKEND. I was interested in the WEEKEND, directed by
Jean-Luc Godard, 1967.
The Dartmouth Film Society theme for this quarter's movie is
"auteur"--"one which stamps itself on every film they make, marking
them as the author".

  If this theme has much weight or has any weight. Then I would think
that I or others should pick out another Godard film. But I doubt that
the movie which I had seen in Melbourne Australia at Monash in 1976 was
a Godard movie, yet it resembled WEEKEND for the most part. Since I
have forgotten the title, I am hoping that someone had seen it and
recognizes it. If someone can post the title, both in French and
English, I would recognize it instantly.

 
  I remember it started with a male main character and he was walking
back and forth in what appeared to be a corporation. I remember the
scene of a sexy secretary whose legs were visible under the table and
the main character walked past her several times. Then his animal
instincts overtook him and he just crawled under the table, .... the
camera just showed the secretary's face and she going ooooh, oohh
ooooo,  aawww.

  Much transpires and the characters become more and more animalistic.
Then it approaches the end, and I can hardly believe that I am watching
a total breakdown of society where the main character is living on
rooftops in a French city and he is living off of human flesh. If
memory serves me, he goes out and clubs a female and drags her up to
his rooftop home and animalistically sexs her. Then he hunts for human
flesh in the streets of France....

  Does the above movie sound familiar to anyone? What is the title in
French and English. I remember it was French titled.

Note: I included sci.bio.ethology because human cannibalism is an
interesting French movie behavior which I would like to learn about.

Hi Archimedes!
I never saw that movie, but from what you describe, it must be THEMROC
with Michel Piccoli. There was a cafe named THEMROC here in M½nster
run by "anarchists"...
--- end of quoted material ---
Thank you very kindly, I thought I would remember the title instantly, no, it took about 20 minutes to say to myself, yes that was the movie.

AP

Archimedes Plutonium

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Now there needs to be a postulate or rule in economic theory that says, basically, the behavior of an entire country is similar to the behavior of a single individual.

Such a rule is required if we are going to answer the question of whether free trade and globalization is best equiped to thwart a nuclear war, or whether the policy of trade only among friends, to weaken the enemies.

AP

Archimedes Plutonium

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On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 3:43:02 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> Now there needs to be a postulate or rule in economic theory that says, basically, the behavior of an entire country is similar to the behavior of a single individual.
>
> Such a rule is required if we are going to answer the question of whether free trade and globalization is best equiped to thwart a nuclear war, or whether the policy of trade only among friends, to weaken the enemies.
>
>

Now it is extremely important to figure out if free trade & globalization is superior in averting a nuclear world war three, or whether the policy of Import trade only with Friendly countries is the superior means of averting nuclear war.

The trouble we find ourselves in by 2017 is that free trade allowed China to grow astronomically powerful in a matter of 30 years and now with its North Korea ally is threatening nuclear war. China grew off the awful practice of exporting their low quality items all over the world, rarely if ever importing. The USA lost most of its manufacturing in the last 30 years to China. So here we have a crazy economics of enriching our enemy for the past 30 years, for what, so that they can rain their nuclear missiles upon the USA.

Now Economics for the past 30 years with its silly Nobel prizes in economics, that was barren of logical thought and barren of science thoughts, helped to make China a powerhouse and leaving the USA in the dust.

Now there was an era of McCarthyism in USA congress where they put people on trial for suspected being Communists. The shame of that, is the real culprits that should have been on trial was the Nobel winners in economics, for not only leading the USA astray, leading the USA to be ruined and nuclear war.

So, what is this RULE for Economics science? The rule is that we need some measuring rod of deciding which path to move forward for the future. Ignorants of economics banter free trade, only because they are pathetic ignorants of science and they love "free" attached to everything, free love, free money, why not free trade. They are utopian ignoramuses.

When you import as a country, you are nearly always enriching the export country, nearly always. And the extreme case example of that is China from 1970 to 2017. Here we made a backward country be the #1 economic country in the world at present. All because we listened to worthless idiots like Nixon and the Nobel Economic laureates, like Milton Friedman.

Never before in the history of nations has a nation that was backwards-- China was fighting with Russia over borders and then the fool Nixon starts to make China, ranked 20th in might in 1970, starts to make China become #1 by 2017.

So, what is in Science, that can tell us, if free trade and globalization keeps us safe from nuclear war better, or whether Import Trade Only with Friendlies is the best policy?

Individual humans each as a country, tend to do business only with people they like and are friendly with, when they do business with people that are opposed to them in any way shape or form, the people avoid them and isolate them or even, move away from them, for they feel the endgame is harmful for them. So there is a INDIVIDUAL as a country parameter to gauge economic policy.

Then there is a second gauge, that of the biology domain where we look to behavior in biology, evolved behavior. And where that takes us with animals, herd animals, bird flocks, fish schools, behavior there is always, go with friendlies, avoid any animal that can harm.

So, what I advise the USA today, is tell China and the world, as of tomorrow, we cut all import trade with China, and only at some time in which we see their behavior is friendly, do we ever, or will we ever import trade with them.

Also, throw out the UN of old, and erect a new UN, where only Friendly nations of the USA are members.

This is the very best way of averting a nuclear world war three. Is the Friendlies all bunch together like one herd, like one school, like one flock. And if the outsiders, the enemies start being friendly, they can be on a path to joining the existing friendlies.

So this nonsense today, where Russia has economic sanctions due to its behavior on Ukraine, or North Korea and Iran sanctions for nuclear missile testing. Well, we should have Economic SANCTIONS all over our enemies, and not just when they are behaving extra badly.

So, problem with North Korea-- simple announce tomorrow all China exports are cut to zero. Watch how fast China stops North Korea.

And, watch how fast, jobs come to life back in the USA, once again.

AP

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More to say because intensifying saber rattling.

Archimedes Plutonium

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On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 5:58:07 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> More to say because intensifying saber rattling.

So today was news the USA president Trump said North Korea would receive "fire and fury" if it dare launch on Guam, citing it has a missile tipped with nuclear weapons. North Korea is increasing threatening.

Now I agree with the idea of You Launch, We Launch, not only if the missile is going to Guam but even if it is a "test launch". This will stop all countries from having a home grown nuclear missile industry, because, they, any testing means the end of their country.

But, what troubles me, is that USA should tell China, since it has not stopped North Korea, tell China, all there export trade to USA is cut to zero as of tomorrow.

To make the world safe from nuclear war, we have got to learn, before it is too late, that we never import trade with our enemies, never import their stuff, until they are deemed "friendly".

Tell me, when in the past 50 years, have you seen China be a friendly towards the USA? When, one can count the times China has actually been friendly to the US, on one hand.

So, our real problem is not just North Korea, but is China also, and to stop this crazy march towards a nuclear world war 3, we have to apply the Policy-- No Import trade with any country that is not friendly to the USA, and ask all our Allies to do the same.

We cannot have a policy of stopping trade only when the country makes hostile actions, like Russia in Ukraine, or North Korea, or Iran. We must stop this trade only when hostile, for we must not trade to any unfriendly country. Trading with China only enriches our enemies which they then use to destroy the USA.

So, I hope the USA, does not flatten North Korea, and leave China doing what China is doing right now, unscathed. Before the USA flattens NK, I hope the USA tells China, -- all imports cut to zero.

If all imports of China were cut to zero, tomorrow, watch how lightning fast China will put an end to North Korea missiles and bluster. Watch how fast China straightens up.

AP

Archimedes Plutonium

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Based on wildlife animal behavior and on modeling of individual humans as entire countries behavior. We are headed unfortunately for a nuclear war. Simply because, the averting of nuclear war has to be the ultimate policy behavior. Our behavior has to be such, that it does not facilitate a nuclear war. Our behavior has to be such that it does not foster or bring on a nuclear war. Otherwise, we encourage a nuclear war to arise.

When we import trade with China and other unfriendly countries, we enrich our enemies, and that only fosters the arrival of a nuclear war.

If China imports were never allowed some 40 years ago, if never there was a Open Door Policy with China (Nixon) then, China would be mostly what it was 40 years ago-- backward, fighting with Russia over its northern border. The gravest error of the USA in the 20rh century was not Vietnam, but was Open Door with China, for now, China is the worlds largest economy and is building islands to antagonize the USA, building islands to plant military.

So, what I am saying-- do you want to avert nuclear war at all cost? If yes, then, by all means, trade only with friendlies, never with enemies. In that way, you encourage our enemies to become friendly.

Look at Cuba, we never traded with them once Castro was in. And Cuba was never any threat thereafter for it was economically poor. But if we had free trade with Cuba, who knows, the island now may have been another North Korea building missiles.

When a country hates another country, it is just like individual humans, and we do not enrich the hating other person (country). By enriching the enemy, only speeds up the process of them attacking and destroying you.

So, not only announce "fire and fury" but announce == China-- end the NK missiles immediately-- or, tomorrow all China imports goes to zero.

Stop this idiotic talk talk negotiations crap that has done nothing for the past 30 years and will only lead to a nuclear war.

AP

Archimedes Plutonium

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On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 4:36:57 PM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> Based on wildlife animal behavior and on modeling of individual humans as entire countries behavior. We are headed unfortunately for a nuclear war. Simply because, the averting of nuclear war has to be the ultimate policy behavior. Our behavior has to be such, that it does not facilitate a nuclear war. Our behavior has to be such that it does not foster or bring on a nuclear war. Otherwise, we encourage a nuclear war to arise.
>
> When we import trade with China and other unfriendly countries, we enrich our enemies, and that only fosters the arrival of a nuclear war.
>

Shame the USA has been a fool, absolute fool to China for the past 30 years, never recognizing that North Korea is China, but only dumb Westerners see them as separate. China has played the USA as a fool ever since the Korean War, and China's greatest coup over USA was the hideous Nixon Open Door policy with China. What that was -- was -- enemy -- please let the USA enrich you so much that in 50 years you can easily destroy the USA. Easily.


> If China imports were never allowed some 40 years ago, if never there was a Open Door Policy with China (Nixon) then, China would be mostly what it was 40 years ago-- backward, fighting with Russia over its northern border. The gravest error of the USA in the 20rh century was not Vietnam, but was Open Door with China, for now, China is the worlds largest economy and is building islands to antagonize the USA, building islands to plant military.
>
> So, what I am saying-- do you want to avert nuclear war at all cost? If yes, then, by all means, trade only with friendlies, never with enemies. In that way, you encourage our enemies to become friendly.
>

The news outlets in the USA have been duped, duped for 30 years and are dupers themselves-- for their little minds can only think of diplomacy and economic sanctions on just North Korea, never understanding in their little minds that China-North Korea, are just one entity.

And, what China is saving North Korea for, is the instance that USA is all focused on NK missiles, that is the instant China unleashes its nuclear missiles that come raining down on the USA. So while USA is a duped little boy focused on North Korea, here comes the nuclear war on mainland USA by China.

The pundits, the journalists have been preaching diplomacy and sanctions for 30 years and never once has that crap worked, because, they are the most duped of the duped, the kings of duping.


> Look at Cuba, we never traded with them once Castro was in. And Cuba was never any threat thereafter for it was economically poor. But if we had free trade with Cuba, who knows, the island now may have been another North Korea building missiles.
>
> When a country hates another country, it is just like individual humans, and we do not enrich the hating other person (country). By enriching the enemy, only speeds up the process of them attacking and destroying you.
>

So, last week, what Trump should have said on Monday, is not "Fire and Fury" but rather have said

"Stop all China Imports as of today"

Watch, watch how at the speed of sound, the Chinese stomp out North Korea weapons, stomp out NK government.

Just as fast as the USA says-- Stop all Chinese Imports, is as fast as North Korea is no longer a problem of the USA.


> So, not only announce "fire and fury" but announce == China-- end the NK missiles immediately-- or, tomorrow all China imports goes to zero.
>
> Stop this idiotic talk talk negotiations crap that has done nothing for the past 30 years and will only lead to a nuclear war.
>
>

What bothers me, is the ever forward accelerated motion towards a Nuclear World War three, all because politicians cannot think LOGICALLY and Clear enough to make the utmost in prevention.

To thwart a Nuclear War,-- we never import trade with any enemy, we never enrich them

They test missiles, then we tell them You Launch, We Launch, meaning that we shot out of the sky and the base of any missile that is not supposed to be in the sky.

This is how you keep the world-- the safest, the best thwarting the best averting of a nuclear war.

In my opinion, the rate we are going, is that a nuclear war is 90% coming, for, we fail horribly in all safeguards.

The only safeguard we have in place right now is MAD, Mutually Assured Destruction, however, that safeguard is almost outdated because it was created when there was only US versus Russia, and now with China, MAD is in a precarious position, for when missiles start flying, we have an almost schizophrenic decision to make in only minutes of time, having Russia, China, USA, and probably India Pakistan and some of Europe in the mix.

So, it is not helpful for Trump to say "fire and fury" or "lock and load".

What is helpful is for Trump to say "All China Imports are halted as of today" And halted until we can see some sort of friendliness by China. Muffle NK, and stop this crazy island military building.

AP

Archimedes Plutonium

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Pentcho Valev
12:58 PM (4 minutes ago)

if you wanted to see what the Earth will be like a million years from now,,,,,

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Hey Pentcho, Pentcho Valev, I don't want to imagine what the world looks like after a nuclear world war 3.

How Economists fooled the world ever since 1950 and bringing us closer to nuclear world war 3.

Economists of the past 70 years were so stupid-- How stupid were they? So stupid as to encourage FREE TRADE, which only means-- enrich our enemies and bring on WW3 at an accelerated pace.


         ,,,
       ($ $)
-ooO-(_)-Ooo-
economists only have dollar signs in eyes, not wisdom

Archimedes Plutonium

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benj
Aug 15 (5 hours ago)


Great concept AP. I think each of Maxwell's equations need no more than
ONE term! This will make all EM calculations so simple even people here
can do them.

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Say Benj there, Benj of UK, I am rusty on my Civics, where trade is concerned. Being a Brit you probably know the answer. If Trump wanted to stop all imports from China, tomorrow, could he do it under executive action, or, does it take a vote from Congress to do that?

In the case of war, the President can initiate action, but war has to be declared by Congress. Given that, it seems likely that since the President can initiate war, that he can stop all imports from China tomorrow.

Now, the same question about UK government. Say for some reason, UK wanted to stop all imports from China, can your Prime Minister announce it and action done, or does she need to go through Parliament there in UK to embark on no imports from China.

What say you Benj,,,,,,

AP

Archimedes Plutonium

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So, Benj, is the Prime Minister of UK able to halt all imports from China tomorrow, or does that have to go through Parliament?

reber G=emc^2

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Walmart and China are the power and the glory.The GOPer Mafia had Bush,and he gave tax breaks to our factories that moved to China.In realityit goes back to Nixon,Annenberg and kissinger.Trump is scary,because he is crazy. Trebert

hanson

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<http://tinyurl.com/Loudmouth-Glazier-8Feb2017> the Liar,
Bigot & Hypochondriac is drunk, full of meds & crack, brags
to be the face-shitting _ Glazier, the Turd-man of Anaheim_,
& being <http://tinyurl.com/The-Chosen-Graveyard-Vandal>.
>
Glazier you Swine, all you ever post in your senile Glazierola
is to pimp, peddle & PRAISE YOURSELF with #1 your racism,
#2 your hatemongering, #3 your age, #4 your diseases, #5
your MSP (Morally Sick Perversions) & #6 your kiddy-toy
gyro, #7 that Jewish shit don't stink, & topping that with you
saying that "you know how everything works", only to follow
up with phony questions that are even more stupid then your
self-pimping. All of that does not belong into s.p. but into
your <http://tinyurl.com/Blog-of-2-fecal-kikes-Mar2017> while
you wait for <http://tinyurl.com/Swine-Glazier-s-Undertaker>
who has a gruesome end in store for you, Glazier. "It's a pity".
>
PS:
However, you will no longer be reminded with posts like above
if you accept <http://tinyurl.com/Herbert-Glazier-s-Reprieve>.

benj

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Lucky we got you and your imaginary friend "TREEB" to bring us all back
to sanity. Hey, Kissinger was a Jew and has a Nobel for his "ending" of
the war in Viet Nam. How many do you and banjo have?

benj

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Aug 16, 2017, 5:02:39 PM8/16/17
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So ArchiePoo can Trump halt all imports of Muslims from "terrorist
source countries" or does it have to go through the courts?

In the Yoo Kay Brexit changes everything.

Archimedes Plutonium

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On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 4:02:39 PM UTC-5, benj wrote:

>
>
> So ArchiePoo can Trump halt all imports of Muslims from "terrorist
> source countries" or does it have to go through the courts?
>
> In the Yoo Kay Brexit changes everything.

But can Prime Minister May, out of her own volition declare -- Stop All imports from China, tomorrow? Can she do that

Archimedes Plutonium

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Aug 17, 2017, 4:32:45 PM8/17/17
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Was looking into the divisions of power in USA system and it appears the Constitution gave Congress the power over Trading, not the President. But one has to wonder if that means signing treaties and imposing tariffs.

Whether that means the President has full power to simply stop trade. So that tomorrow, President Trump could simply say

STOP, and HALT all imports from China to the USA.

STOP ALL IMPORTS OF CHINA, today.

As chief executive, I see nothing in the Constitution that the president is prevented from doing that. In fact the President should have such power, because what if China was to deliberately place toxic stuff in their imports, that we need a nimble acting president to stop that toxic stuff from reaching our shores. We could not waste time in having Congress mess around.

He, the president, is prevented from going into a treaty of trade and prevented from tariffs and the money involved in trade. But nothing to prevent him from STOPPING ALL CHINESE IMPORTS.

So, be bold Mr. Trump, stop all trade of Chinese imports. If you want a massive huge amount of jobs in the USA, watch as the USA grows terrifically, while China and its North Korea shrivel.

Now on a different note:: This summer was another Drought year for we had no rain in this summer until yesterday, Wedn. 16 August, we had 2 inches where I live. All through the summer was miserable for me to have to spend every day with a watering program, especially the lilac and hazels. But now with that 2inches, 5 cm rainfall, I can roll up the hoses and store for winter, since it is late in August and the plants can make it through the remainder of year.

This reminded me of going back to my posts in the past for what year was it that we had the horrible drought of 4 months with no rainfall at all. It was the year 2012 here in South Dakota, and my posts were mostly about Solar Flares and Sunspots for I believed, and still do believe, that much of our weather is affected by Solar activity.

It was 2012 we had that horrible drought and funny that in 2011 we had the Missouri River flood, where the Army Corp of Engineers had to release water from the dams in order to save the dams, even though it meant flooding of houses and homes along the river.

So it is good that my memory can always be refreshed by looking back through my posts.

P.S. President Trump:: please announce soon, Stop All Import Trade of China, in one fell swoop, you correct the behavior of North Korea, correct the behavior of China, and you create a resurgence of economy in the USA, a huge resurgence and revival of Made in USA.

AP

benj

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Aug 17, 2017, 6:18:32 PM8/17/17
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Archiepoo, The president can't stop all trade with a country. It's not
even decided yet if he can temporarily halt import of people from a
country just to study a problem. Stopping trade is normally done by
Congress and is not done with a ban, but by raising import duties so
high nobody will import anything. This is often termed a "trade war"
that you hear people talking about now. However, Nixon in a dispute with
Mexico did manage to stop all fruit imports for a while to get them give
in to some matter. He just had customs agents slow down all the imports
to a crawl by excessive bureaucracy and run around at the border without
fooling with tarrifs. Mexico caved.

Archimedes Plutonium

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On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 5:18:32 PM UTC-5, benj wrote:

> >
> Archiepoo, The president can't stop all trade with a country. It's not
> even decided yet if he can temporarily halt import of people from a
> country just to study a problem. Stopping trade is normally done by
> Congress and is not done with a ban, but by raising import duties so
> high nobody will import anything. This is often termed a "trade war"
> that you hear people talking about now. However, Nixon in a dispute with
> Mexico did manage to stop all fruit imports for a while to get them give
> in to some matter. He just had customs agents slow down all the imports
> to a crawl by excessive bureaucracy and run around at the border without
> fooling with tarrifs. Mexico caved.

Yes, so, let us say some food imports from China is found to have toxic chemicals. It would not be up to Congress to sort things out. It would be the president to halt all food from China. And then just say, halt all imports from China.

So Congress can make any trade deal it wants, but the President, tasked to execute the law, can just undermine the execution and thus effectively scuttling the Congress law.

So, Benj, if you were Trump, how would you Stop all China Imports tomorrow, how would you go about doing that, and do it in a way, that opponents would be hard pressed to overturn.

AP

Archimedes Plutonium

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Now it was Dr. Henry Kissinger on the Charlie Rose show last night talking about a way to solve the North Korea problem. I turned the tv set off, for I could not stomach one of the main architects of our present day dilemma-- free trade with China, with Nixon open door to China.

What Kissinger set in motion with his service in politics, was set in motion that the world helps enemies get strong and stronger until the point is reached where our enemies-- China+ North Korea can destroy the USA.

What Kissinger should have done, in the 1950s onward was to set up a policy that NO IMPORTS from any enemy country.

The last thing on Earth, you want to do, is enrich your enemy. And those, here in the West have been absolute and utter fools by making China a world powerhouse. North Korea is the same as China, and here in the West, our leaders have been so foolish that they never realized China and North Korea are one and the same.

It is not too late. It is not too late to say NO IMPORTS FROM CHINA, so as to weaken China so they stop their belligerence.

Kissinger is not worth listening to, for he is a prime cause in our present predicament.

AP

burs...@gmail.com

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AP brain farto, sucks at math and physics,
hence he posts other nonsense.

Archimedes Plutonium

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Now, here is a perfect reason for President Trump to stop and halt all IMPORT trade with China over the issue that their goods have lead, mercury and carcinogens.

Recently I had these California warning labels on goods-- this product contains chemicals known by California to cause cancer or birth defects. All of the products were made in China.

So, simple, simple as apple or cherry pie, STOP ALL CHINA IMPORTS for they are just plain toxic and dangerous.

Watch how fast there no longer is a North Korea problem.

Watch how fast there is a economic boom in the USA where factories are tooled up to produce "made in USA" again.

It was crazy from Nixon onwards, to be enriching our enemies-- to enrich China with its axis of North Korea. To enrich them for what? So that by 2020 the USA is a nuclear wasteland, all because back in 1970s Nixon wanted cheap Chinese junk sold in Walmart so that USA only pays $1. for a hammer made in China and manufacturing move to China so that 50 years later the USA is a nuclear war wasteland.

Those economists with their Nobel prizes preaching Free Trade, were really preaching-- enrich your enemies so they can drop nuclear weapons on your head, that much quicker.

AP

Archimedes Plutonium

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Aug 20, 2017, 7:26:43 PM8/20/17
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I was blessed by God with a logical mind that is superior to most minds-- as per logic.

So I feel obligated, and my duty to share these thoughts with you and the world.

To share the thoughts of what should be World Policy to keep the world safe from a Nuclear War.

It is not looking good, although we had no nuclear war from WW2 onwards. We did use nuclear weapons on Nagasaki Japan, but luckily never since.

We had a close scrape with Cuba Crisis in October 1962, fortunately it went away.

We have had nuclear electric power station disasters, Three Mile Island USA, Chernobyl Russia, Fukushima Japan.

We have had MAD, Mutual Assured Destruction keep the peace since 1950 to 2017 with silent submarines armed with nuclear missiles.

However, the way I read the future, we are headed for a Nuclear all out war, because our Economics is heading us into this war, along with human overpopulation.

If trends continue, I see no escape from a Nuclear World Wide War.

What needs to happen, very fast, is a Economic policy of NO IMPORTS from enemy countries.

We need, here in the West, to stop this China imports. For just in 30 years time, China has become the #1 in economics.

Not only was China our enemy throughout 1950 and onwards, but here in the West, we went crazy by Opening the Door to China-- Nixon, and thus enriching our enemy.

For what, so that we pay a $1 for hammers at Walmart, made in China, so that China levels the USA with nuclear war in 2030

Everyday we hear about North Korea saber rattling, but the fools in the West want to ignore that it is China+North Korea doing the sabre rattling. In China, they laugh, they laugh every day and every night of what pathetic fools the West has. Every day the West buys the cheap China crap, enriches China, so that every day comes closer and closer that nuclear weapons fall unto USA making it a wasteland.

What should have happened in 1950, is a realization that Economics was going to play a major role in whether Earth has a Nuclear War. Economics is going to have a huge say-- will there be nuclear war or not.

And so, the West, if wise, should have drawn up plans-- what POLICY is best to keep the world from a Nuclear War.

And the answer is quite simple-- Never any IMPORT TRADE with enemies. Keep your enemies poor, never enrich them. For by enriching them, they only come around and kill you that much faster.

Biology says this umpteen times-- do not help your predators, for by helping them, you only get eaten faster.

But the human mind is often foolish, and when it comes to a nation of human minds, they are often swayed by greed of making a dollar rather than wisdom-- of what is coming down the road.

The course we are on-- IMPORTS from CHINA, spells nothing but 90% chance that USA is leveled by nuclear war. We have enriched China, so that they can level us.

In a world of Nuclear War threats, MAD worked wonders with two actors on the stage-- US and USSR, but now there are 3 actors, with China. MAD needs help, and the West has lost its mind on economics.

The West has been idiotic on trade, enriching China. For what? So that we have access to cheap junk in stores, all so that in 2030, our country is leveled by nuclear waste.

It is not too late, here in the West. Tomorrow, announce STOPPING all IMPORTS from China. No more Chinese imports. Get China back to its state where its people have to worry about growing food, not building islands in the Pacific to militarize, not supplying North Korea with new missile technology.

And once in the West, we have no more China imports, watch how jobs and manufacturing in the USA takes off, and we again see Made in USA.

I am a scientist, with a logical mind-- I see these things-- far more clearer than most people.

I see we are not doing everything possible to avert a Nuclear World War 3, but rather, we are racing into one,,,,,


AP

Archimedes Plutonium

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off-spin of Stop All Import Trade is cut all incoming WEB posts from our enemies Re: STOP ALL IMPORT TRADE WITH CHINA TOMORROW Re: Economic Science Postulate/Rule
Now there is a beautiful Lemma to Stop All Import Trade

LEMMA:: once the world is split into Friends (Allies) and Foes such as Russia+ China+ North Korea + Iran + etc

That the Lemma is not only Stop all Import Trade from enemies, but do not allow them to post on the World Wide Web. They can look at it but cannot post into it.

As recently as a few days ago we had a terrorism attack in NYC of some Uzebekestan (spelling) driving into a bicycle lane killing 8. Now if we had a Ban on All Enemies being able to post on WWW, then no radicalization of this terrorist.

You see, the world is bifurcated anyway into those that are friendly and those that mean harm. Trouble is at present-- we do not acknowledge the rift and pretend as if All are Friendly-- all are deserving of Imports and all are deserving of posting to the Internet.

AP

hanson

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Wrong!... <snipped APe's sorry "Arse Plotiums">
>
Lewdi, what's eating you now in your upwelling of hatred?...
>
No matter how furiously & how many times Neo-Nazi APe
Lewdi Poehl <plutonium....@gmail.com>, posts,
it will not hide the fact that "AP is the Cranio-rectally
inverted village idiot Lewdi Poehl", who never does any
physics & when he thinks he does it is always, at best,
just <http://tinyurl.com/APe-Archie-Plutonium-s-crap> which
is why Archimedley Plutosium's APe-shit is funny. --- LOL
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