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May 25, 2006, 8:06:08 AM5/25/06
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http://www.oswirus.krakow.pl/cat_14/gyroscope/

A symmetric harnessed gyroscope accelerated to a given spinning
frequency takes different time periods to stop, depending on the
direction of previous spins. For repeated alternating, anticlockwise
and clockwise spinning, the rotation period in both directions
significantly increases, which is not the case when the gyroscope is
repeatedly rotated in the same direction. Using the measurements it was
observed, that the time of gyroscope's rotation was significantly
lengthened or shortened, what indicates that it either increased or
decreased the movement resistance of the gyroscope. The presented
experimental results suggest the existence of anomalous movement
resistance and demonstrate that a fixed spinning gyroscope displays
unusual history-dependent movement resistance effects. The effect is
real, large, reproducible and does not follow from experimental errors.

The manuscript was reviewed thrice, according to the publishing
procedure in "Physical Review Letters" within two year. The remarks of
all the reviewers were taken into account during its correction.
Because the publishing procedure for our manuscript in "Physical Review
Letters" finished, we decided to publish it in Journal of Technical
Physics, J.Tech. Phys., 46, 2, 107-115, 2005.

Dirk Van de moortel

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May 25, 2006, 8:27:38 AM5/25/06
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<to...@gazeta.pl> wrote in message news:1148558768.2...@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

When polishing a surface, do we always rub in the same direction,
or do we alternate the rubbing directions as much as we can?
It seems to me that the latter approach gives a much better result,
i.e. a smoother surface, which in turn gives less friction.

Dirk Vdm


Greg Neill

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May 25, 2006, 8:21:20 AM5/25/06
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> http://www.oswirus.krakow.pl/cat_14/gyroscope/

[snip]

You're becoming awfully repetitive. Why are you beating
the same dead horse over and over here?


donsto...@hotmail.com

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May 25, 2006, 4:13:35 PM5/25/06
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Must be for the same reason Valev and Conrad do it. Improper toilet
training? A desire to noncooperatively waste as much of the Earth's
resources as possible, ulimately toppling modern civilization? Anal
warts? God only knows.

to...@gazeta.pl

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May 26, 2006, 11:48:47 AM5/26/06
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Those effects strongly depend on material
(substance) of the rotor's disk, for example they are
great for the rotor's disk made in teflon and small one
for the rotor's disk made in plexiglas.

Dirk Van de moortel

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May 26, 2006, 12:22:22 PM5/26/06
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<to...@gazeta.pl> wrote in message news:1148658527.6...@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Teflon is denser and thus heavier than plexiglass, so Teflon
gives a better polish, so that might give a stronger effect,
so that doesn't explain much.
Did you investigate the influence of mixing "Unmemorized"
with "Memorized" rotors with ditto spindles and ditto bearings?
As far as I can see you have only tested UUU and MMM.
Testing the other 6 combinations might help you find out
which part is actually doing the "memorizing" :-)

Dirk Vdm

ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com

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May 26, 2006, 12:55:02 PM5/26/06
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> Dirk Vdm

Teflon has rather piss-poor structural characteristics, e.g. it is
quick to flow under pressure.

I haven't a clue how you would polish teflon or expect it to stay that
way.

--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

Dirk Van de moortel

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May 26, 2006, 1:15:42 PM5/26/06
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<ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message news:vvnjk3-...@mail.specsol.com...

Not the rotor, but the spindle and the bearings get "polished"
by and under the rotation and the weight of the teflon rotor.

Dirk Vdm


The Sorcerer

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May 26, 2006, 1:55:38 PM5/26/06
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[anip]

(can't even snip).

hahahha.... HAHAHAHA... hahahaha...

Androcles Vdm.

to...@gazeta.pl

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May 27, 2006, 8:43:20 AM5/27/06
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it is "memory" effects in disk's material!

Dirk Van de moortel

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May 27, 2006, 9:12:12 AM5/27/06
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<to...@gazeta.pl> wrote in message news:1148733800.6...@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> it is "memory" effects in disk's material!

How do you know that if you have not investigated the


influence of mixing "Unmemorized" with "Memorized"

disk material (rotors) with ditto spindles and ditto bearings?
Apart from the tested combinations UUU and MMM,
there are 6 others.

Dirk Vdm


to...@gazeta.pl

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Jun 2, 2006, 2:43:54 PM6/2/06
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"We cannot establish the cause of this phenomenon. We have discovered
the effect and now theorists are trying to get their head round it. But
this may change thinking about basic mechanics. We have run this
experiment for a few years on different gyroscopes and we have achieved
the same effect. " - says Mazur.

Dirk Van de moortel

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Jun 2, 2006, 2:51:03 PM6/2/06
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<to...@gazeta.pl> wrote in message news:1149273834.8...@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

So the influence of mixing "Unmemorized" with "Memorized"
rotors with ditto spindles and ditto bearings was not tested.
Tell Mazur that as long as no one is interested in finding out
which part of the gyroscopes is actually doing the "memorizing",
no theorist will try to get his head round it.

Dirk Vdm


The Sorcerer

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Jun 2, 2006, 5:12:46 PM6/2/06
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http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fumbleindex.htm
Androcles Vdm.

to...@gazeta.pl

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Jun 6, 2006, 3:35:34 PM6/6/06
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We made measurements for different settings of rotor, for example the
spindle of the rotor was laid horizontally. The effect always exists
and is large. For the same bearings and the same dimensions of rotor
we have observed different size of the effects. The effect is small if
the disk of the rotor is made of plexiglas, and very large if the disk
of the rotor is made of teflon.

Dirk Van de moortel

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Jun 6, 2006, 3:41:48 PM6/6/06
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<to...@gazeta.pl> wrote in message news:1149622534.8...@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...

So the influence of mixing "Unmemorized" with "Memorized"
rotors with ditto spindles and ditto bearings was not tested,
and therefore you don't know which part is actually doing
the "memorizing".

Dirk Vdm


to...@gazeta.pl

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Jun 6, 2006, 4:04:40 PM6/6/06
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The disk of the rotor has the biggest influence on these effects.

Dirk Van de moortel

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Jun 6, 2006, 4:14:02 PM6/6/06
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<to...@gazeta.pl> wrote in message news:1149624280....@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

> The disk of the rotor has the biggest influence on these effects.

The influence of mixing "Unmemorized" with "Memorized"

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