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The Starmaker

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Feb 8, 2015, 4:44:24 PM2/8/15
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Where is the center of the universe?



Where?

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medital

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Feb 8, 2015, 5:27:17 PM2/8/15
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On 2/8/2015 3:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Where is the center of the universe?
>
>
>
> Where?

where the most gravity is. just let your self go.

Virgil

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Feb 8, 2015, 5:45:34 PM2/8/15
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In article <mb8nrv$5j6$2...@speranza.aioe.org>,
Actually, at the center of the universe gravitational pulls should be
equal in all directions, thus cancel out entirely!

But, unfortunately, such a point need not be unique.
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David Staup

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Feb 8, 2015, 6:26:34 PM2/8/15
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On 2/8/2015 3:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
in your head

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn

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Feb 8, 2015, 7:20:11 PM2/8/15
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The Starmaker wrote:

> Where is the center of the universe?

According to the current standard model of cosmology, everywhere.

This might be helpful: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EilZ4VY5Vs#t=495>

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Sam Wormley

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Feb 8, 2015, 7:48:07 PM2/8/15
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HVAC

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Feb 9, 2015, 5:51:03 AM2/9/15
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On 2/8/2015 4:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Where is the center of the universe?
>
>
>
> Where?


The center of the universe is EXACTLY where I am sitting right now.
And I mean EXACTLY.




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Sam Wormley

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Feb 9, 2015, 9:20:30 AM2/9/15
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On 2/9/15 4:51 AM, HVAC wrote:
> The center of the universe is EXACTLY where I am sitting right now.
> And I mean EXACTLY.

And you would be right, Harlow. However, the center of the universe
is EXACTLY where I am standing right now. Herb is probably going to
claim the same this... IF he is clever enough.

medital

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Feb 9, 2015, 9:39:49 AM2/9/15
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On 2/8/2015 4:45 PM, Virgil wrote:
> In article <mb8nrv$5j6$2...@speranza.aioe.org>,
> medital <inv...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/8/2015 3:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Where is the center of the universe?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Where?
>>
>> where the most gravity is. just let your self go.
>
> Actually, at the center of the universe gravitational pulls should be
> equal in all directions, thus cancel out entirely!
>
> But, unfortunately, such a point need not be unique.
>


for earth, surface is strongest gravity, 0 in the center, and about 1/3
about 1000 miles from center. so if one fell down a stright hole to the
center, ignoring heat and radiation, they may not get there.

Assuming such a Hole was constructed, and no heat or radiation effects,
how long would it take something dropped down it to get to the center,
as g is a variable from surface to center ? Air friction? take into
account, and ignore it.

ignoring air resistance, what is the period of oscillation ?

benj

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Feb 9, 2015, 10:13:51 AM2/9/15
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On 02/08/2015 05:45 PM, Virgil wrote:
> In article <mb8nrv$5j6$2...@speranza.aioe.org>,
> medital <inv...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/8/2015 3:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Where is the center of the universe?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Where?
>>
>> where the most gravity is. just let your self go.
>
> Actually, at the center of the universe gravitational pulls should be
> equal in all directions, thus cancel out entirely!
>
> But, unfortunately, such a point need not be unique.

Every place in the universe is it's center. Just ask Sam Wormley.

And the interesting thing is that supposedly this occurs in only 3
dimensions which is patent insanity.



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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn

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Feb 9, 2015, 12:18:34 PM2/9/15
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medital wrote:

> for earth, surface is strongest gravity, 0 in the center, and about 1/3
> about 1000 miles from center. so if one fell down a stright hole to the
> center, ignoring heat and radiation, they may not get there.

No, also assuming a non-rotating Earth, the free-faller will certainly get
there. And they should hope that the tunnel continues to the opposite side
of the Earth. You are ignoring the speed/velocity the free-faller already
has gained while falling.

> Assuming such a Hole was constructed, and no heat or radiation effects,
> how long would it take something dropped down it to get to the center,
> as g is a variable from surface to center ? Air friction? take into
> account, and ignore it.
>
> ignoring air resistance, what is the period of oscillation ?

Do your own homework.

Also:

- Get a real name.
- Get a real address.
- Do not crosspost across alt.ALL and the Big 8.
- Do not crosspost without Followup-To.
- Avoid the troll-infested aioe.org.

HVAC

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Feb 9, 2015, 1:11:07 PM2/9/15
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On 2/9/2015 10:13 AM, benj wrote:
>
>
> Every place in the universe is it's center. Just ask Sam Wormley.
>
> And the interesting thing is that supposedly this occurs in only 3
> dimensions which is patent insanity.


The simple-minded always have trouble with this concept. Ironic it is
that it's is so simple a child can understand it.

HVAC

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Feb 9, 2015, 1:12:58 PM2/9/15
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On 2/9/2015 11:25 AM, G=EMC^2TreBert wrote:
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>
> Sam I relate this and posted years ago. Just like we are in the center of a blinding snow storm.It looks the same in every direction.Humankind's ego will claim its our center. Why not? TreBert


Bert is another simple-minded fool like BJ who cannot grasp this concept.

HINT: Your snowstorm analogy is 100% wrong.

The Starmaker

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Feb 9, 2015, 2:23:50 PM2/9/15
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The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Where is the center of the universe?
>
> Where?

Look, I understand
that yous been told
the center of the
universe is
everywhere...

are you going
to sit around
and wait for
them to tell
yous
'they thought wrong'?


It's very simple..

i take a match
light a
fireworks fuse..
it explodes
it goes bang

the center of the
explosion
is where the bang
occured..

where the fuse is..
where i lit the fuse..
That is Where the center is.

Somewhere in the universe
there are remenants
of the little pieces
of the cherry bomb,
fireworks canister..
maybe even some of the fuse is
somewhere in the universe...
it would have to be at the center.
You cannot have an explosion, a big bang
without..a center.

Regardless of what they tell you...

The center of the universe is located...Where?

Maybe the Earth is the center of the universe...it
is the only part of the universe that doesn't look like
everything thing else.

The Starmaker

HVAC

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Feb 9, 2015, 2:45:59 PM2/9/15
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On 2/9/2015 2:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>
> It's very simple..
>
> i take a match
> light a
> fireworks fuse..
> it explodes
> it goes bang
>
> the center of the
> explosion
> is where the bang
> occured..
>
> where the fuse is..
> where i lit the fuse..
> That is Where the center is.
>
> Somewhere in the universe
> there are remenants
> of the little pieces
> of the cherry bomb,
> fireworks canister..
> maybe even some of the fuse is
> somewhere in the universe...
> it would have to be at the center.
> You cannot have an explosion, a big bang
> without..a center.


Another simple-minded viewpoint. The big bang was NOT an explosion.

How is it that my children understood this concept at age 9-10?

Sam Wormley

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Feb 9, 2015, 2:49:19 PM2/9/15
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On 2/9/15 1:23 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> i take a match light a fireworks fuse.. it explodes it goes bang
>
> the center of the explosion is where the bang occured..


Poor analogy -- the big bang is an expansion of space, not an
explosion in space. :-o

The Starmaker

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Feb 9, 2015, 5:16:25 PM2/9/15
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/big%20bang

Definition of BIG BANG
: the cosmic explosion that marked the beginning of the universe
according to the big bang theory



When my neighbors ask, "What was that big bang???'


They are talking about a large noise they heard caused by an explosion.



In other words, there was a sudden loud noise...

caused by when I lit the fuse of the cherry bomb.



"expansion" is completly something else...



I'm talking about a big noise, coming from the big explosion...a big
bang!

Bast

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Feb 9, 2015, 5:43:42 PM2/9/15
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If you want to go with either the big bang, or inflation theories.
The center is everywhere.
Since everythng including space itself started fron a single point /
singularity.


Of course if you go with the theory of an infinitely old and large universe
that was always there.
......The center is two two steps to your right, and six inches forward.


And then again you could believe in the bible and that it was all made in a
week, 2000 years ago.
Then,...the center is up your ass.




Bast

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Feb 9, 2015, 5:48:13 PM2/9/15
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Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 2/9/15 4:51 AM, HVAC wrote:
>> The center of the universe is EXACTLY where I am sitting right now.
>> And I mean EXACTLY.




Nope,...no narcissism there.
Go back to emailing yourself valentines letters.

reber g=emc^2

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Feb 9, 2015, 6:46:34 PM2/9/15
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Center of universe is right under my nose. Oooops Treb just jumped in with. It is your nose?? Come to think of it BB smells like rotten eggs.Was sulfur one of the first elements? I'm so clever I know where to look for the universes center.If we find a direction space micro waves are stronger that would help.Center of all objects can tell you alot. Nature hides its centers.Imperial thinkers has Earth's center running a generator.That has to tell you something TreBert

Sam Wormley

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Feb 9, 2015, 7:24:35 PM2/9/15
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On 2/9/15 4:16 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Definition of BIG BANG
> : the cosmic explosion that marked the beginning of the universe
> according to the big bang theory

Try: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

> The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological model for the
> birth of the universe.[1][2][3] It states that at some moment all of
> space was contained in a single point from which the Universe has
> been expanding ever since. Modern measurements place this moment at
> approximately 13.8 billion years ago, which is thus considered the
> age of the universe.[4] After the initial expansion, the Universe
> cooled sufficiently to allow the formation of subatomic particles,
> and later simple atoms. Giant clouds of these primordial elements
> later coalesced through gravity to form stars and galaxies. The Big
> Bang theory does not provide any explanation for the initial
> conditions of the Universe; rather, it describes and explains the
> general evolution of the Universe going forward from that point on.



The Starmaker

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Feb 9, 2015, 7:39:51 PM2/9/15
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Bast wrote:
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> The Starmaker wrote:
> > Where is the center of the universe?
> >
> >
> >
> > Where?
> >
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> If you want to go with either the big bang, or inflation theories.
> The center is everywhere.

Where is...everywhere?

Sam Wormley

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Feb 9, 2015, 8:10:47 PM2/9/15
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Every point, every observer in an expanding universe looks to be the
center. It's just geometry of expanding space.

William December Starr

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Feb 9, 2015, 8:44:13 PM2/9/15
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In article <mba3dg$dro$1...@dont-email.me>,
HVAC <Mr....@gmail.com> said:

> The center of the universe is EXACTLY where I am sitting right now.
> And I mean EXACTLY.

Left butt-cheek or right?

-- wds

Rock Brentwood

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Feb 9, 2015, 8:47:02 PM2/9/15
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On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 3:44:24 PM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> Where is the center of the universe?

Actually, the basic assumptions that go into the model for the Big Bang are:
(1) isotropy: all directions are equal
(2) homogeneity: all points are equal -- which is the exact opposite to your question's premise!

benj

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Feb 9, 2015, 8:47:34 PM2/9/15
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Sammy, you never disappoint! You still haven't noticed that in
accepting the "no center" theory you must ALSO accept the "Universe has
more dimensions than three not including time" theory as well.

You really could use a science education.

Say did I ever tell you about my BBB theory? I'm very clever. Get the
picture?

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The Starmaker

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Feb 9, 2015, 8:49:38 PM2/9/15
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Most people trust a merriam-webster dictionary more than they would a user-edited website like wikipedia.


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/big%20bang

Definition of BIG BANG
: the cosmic explosion that marked the beginning of the universe
according to the big bang theory



And why would anyone trust
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang


when the original editor hides his last ip with 3 xxx???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/129.128.137.xxx


cause it's garbage information.

The Starmaker

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Feb 9, 2015, 8:52:38 PM2/9/15
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Sam Wormley wrote:
>
> On 2/9/15 6:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Bast wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> Where is the center of the universe?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Where?
> >>>
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> >> If you want to go with either the big bang, or inflation theories.
> >> The center is everywhere.
> >
> > Where is...everywhere?
> >
>
> Every point,

To say that the center is everywhere is like saying God is everywhere.

benj

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Feb 9, 2015, 9:19:36 PM2/9/15
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Sam you need to understand my BBB theory. I am very clever. That is a
given.

benj

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Feb 9, 2015, 9:20:10 PM2/9/15
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Certainly you have heard of chickenman?

Bast

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Feb 9, 2015, 10:18:16 PM2/9/15
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Not really.
As there is another theory that says everything is just a hologram on the
edge of the universe, and projected inside.

Wouldn't it be a bitch if we ever found out that all we were was a computer
program on a Supreme Being's hard disk drive.
And that all your thoughts and actions were not your own, but just the
result of that Being, moving a joystick.


The Starmaker

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Feb 10, 2015, 4:11:11 AM2/10/15
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hologram universe is based on string theory..and string theory is based
on math, not science..
and math is not hidden in any form in the unverse, so hologram uinverse
doesn' exist.


People say God is everywhere just so that don't have to indicate his
location...saying
the center ofthe universe is everywhere is just a ..cop out to hide the
fact they have no
idea where the center is at.

The center of the universe reveals God's location. The place where he
created the heavens and the earth; of
course, their goal is to erase God, so they erase the center.


If you ask God where is the center of the universe, he'll say..."It's
right over there!"


What came first, the earth or the light? And then there was light..

The Earth is the center of the universe...

HVAC

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Feb 10, 2015, 5:57:14 AM2/10/15
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Correct.

HVAC

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Feb 10, 2015, 5:58:22 AM2/10/15
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On 2/9/2015 5:52 PM, Sjouke Burry wrote:
>
>> Another simple-minded viewpoint. The big bang was NOT an explosion.
>>
>> How is it that my children understood this concept at age 9-10?
>>
>>
>>
> You picked a smart mom for them?


Correct! You win a cupie doll!

HVAC

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Feb 10, 2015, 6:02:36 AM2/10/15
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On 2/9/2015 8:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>
> Most people trust a merriam-webster dictionary more than they would a user-edited website like wikipedia.
>
>
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/big%20bang
>
> Definition of BIG BANG
> : the cosmic explosion that marked the beginning of the universe
> according to the big bang theory


The dictionary definitions presented here, along with most of you
people, are wrong. Just listen to ME....Then accept my definition as if
it came from the mouth of god almighty himself.

HVAC

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Feb 10, 2015, 6:04:14 AM2/10/15
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On 2/9/2015 3:30 PM, G=EMC^2TreBert wrote:
>
>
> Sam I know you are thinking of leaving when we have to contend with these low wit hate mongers. Please don't because if you do I will too.


Really?

Sam, please leave these groups ASAP.

HVAC

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Feb 10, 2015, 6:11:11 AM2/10/15
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On 2/9/2015 8:10 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>
> Every point, every observer in an expanding universe looks to be the
> center. It's just geometry of expanding space.


When my children struggled with this concept, as many of the denizens of
this group seem to be (cept my kids were 10 at the time), I used a
simple analogy. I asked where the center was on an infinitely long piece
of string. In a second I saw the lights going on in their 10 year old
heads. Still, many on this group are so firmly entrenched in their
stoic view of physics that education is out of the question.

Jeff-Relf.Me

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Feb 10, 2015, 8:06:18 AM2/10/15
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The anonymous coward known as @The·Starmaker wrote:
> > Definition of BIG BANG:
> > the cosmic explosion that marked the beginning of the universe
> > according to the big bang theory

Quoting https://www.google.com/search?q=define:big+bang <<
Big Bang:

The rapid expansion of matter from a state of
extremely high density and temperature that,
according to current cosmological theories,
marked the origin of the [known] universe. >>

As matter expands, so too does space·time;
because space·time is matter and vice versa.

The Universe is consuming "eXergy" ( energy that can do work ),
same as you, me, and everyone/everything else.

As it does so, entropy increases --
i.e. everything smooths out, becoming less lumpy.

The start of the known Universe, the start of the Big Bang,
is merely our (subjective) cosmic horizon.

There/Then the redshift ( z ) is infinite --
i.e. from our point of view, clocks there/then aren't ticking
and the good ol' yardstick is infinitely long,
so that everything there/then appears to have zero length.

From our point of view.
Locally, it's a different story, of course.

Justin Thyme

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Feb 10, 2015, 8:40:16 AM2/10/15
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Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

> As matter expands, so too does space·time;
> because space·time is matter and vice versa.

I know that it used to be thought be some that "stuff" was just
space-time tightly curved. I.e., the answer to the question arena or
everything? was everything. Are such ideas still entertained?

--
Sorrow in all lands, and grievous omens.
Great anger in the dragon of the hills,
And silent now the earth's green oracles
That will not speak again of innocence.
David Sutton -- Geomancies

benj

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Feb 10, 2015, 10:12:24 AM2/10/15
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On 02/10/2015 06:11 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 2/9/2015 8:10 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>
>>
>> Every point, every observer in an expanding universe looks to be the
>> center. It's just geometry of expanding space.
>
>
> When my children struggled with this concept, as many of the denizens of
> this group seem to be (cept my kids were 10 at the time), I used a
> simple analogy. I asked where the center was on an infinitely long piece
> of string. In a second I saw the lights going on in their 10 year old
> heads. Still, many on this group are so firmly entrenched in their
> stoic view of physics that education is out of the question.

And of course since all math is fantasy and "infinite" things do not
exist (except for human stupidity, natch, no offense) all you managed to
do is screw up your kid's heads with your disingenuous tradecraft.

Figures.

The idea of the center of the universe being everywhere has nothing to
do with it being infinite. Has to do with it being a multi-dimensional
manifold (which oddly Sammy denies...he's such a denier!).

I pity your kids hardblow. What a handicap they mus live with.

benj

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Feb 10, 2015, 10:42:10 AM2/10/15
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No it isn't because the center is said to be "everywhere".

JRStern

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Feb 10, 2015, 10:56:12 AM2/10/15
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 13:40:11 +0000, Justin Thyme
<Justi...@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>
>> As matter expands, so too does space·time;
>> because space·time is matter and vice versa.
>
>I know that it used to be thought be some that "stuff" was just
>space-time tightly curved. I.e., the answer to the question arena or
>everything? was everything. Are such ideas still entertained?

That's new to me, and I like it!

J.

JRStern

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Feb 10, 2015, 10:56:23 AM2/10/15
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 05:06:15 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:

>The anonymous coward known as @The·Starmaker wrote:
>> > Definition of BIG BANG:
>> > the cosmic explosion that marked the beginning of the universe
>> > according to the big bang theory
>
>Quoting https://www.google.com/search?q=define:big+bang ??
> Big Bang:
>
> The rapid expansion of matter from a state of
> extremely high density and temperature that,
> according to current cosmological theories,
> marked the origin of the [known] universe. ??
>
>As matter expands, so too does space·time;
>because space·time is matter and vice versa.
>
>The Universe is consuming "eXergy" ( energy that can do work ),
>same as you, me, and everyone/everything else.
>
>As it does so, entropy increases --
>i.e. everything smooths out, becoming less lumpy.

Well, but everything? I mean, stars, planets, you and me, appear to
be more "lumpy" than an expanding, cooling cloud, not less lumpy.

Is this still just waved at as a statistical oddity, we are all black
swans, and globally entropy is increasing so we should just accept it?

Or can we blame it on "dark matter"?

J.

HVAC

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Feb 10, 2015, 11:10:00 AM2/10/15
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On 2/10/2015 10:12 AM, benj wrote:
>
> And of course since all math is fantasy and "infinite" things do not
> exist (except for human stupidity, natch, no offense) all you managed to
> do is screw up your kid's heads with your disingenuous tradecraft.


Well then BJ, riddle me this. As a god believer, when did your god come
into existence? How long ago?

BJ's answer: "God is outside of our universe and therefore doesn't count".

HVAC's reply: "Oh".


> The idea of the center of the universe being everywhere has nothing to
> do with it being infinite. Has to do with it being a multi-dimensional
> manifold (which oddly Sammy denies...he's such a denier!).
>
> I pity your kids hardblow. What a handicap they mus live with.


My children are all out on their own. Each has completed college. My
oldest daughter has her doctorate. Obviously they have overcome this
horrible handicap. You proud of them?'

benj

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Feb 10, 2015, 12:01:53 PM2/10/15
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On 02/10/2015 11:09 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 2/10/2015 10:12 AM, benj wrote:
>>
>> And of course since all math is fantasy and "infinite" things do not
>> exist (except for human stupidity, natch, no offense) all you managed to
>> do is screw up your kid's heads with your disingenuous tradecraft.
>
>
> Well then BJ, riddle me this. As a god believer, when did your god come
> into existence? How long ago?
>
> BJ's answer: "God is outside of our universe and therefore doesn't count".
>
> HVAC's reply: "Oh".

As an ignorant atheist spawn of Satan, Harlow obviously can't handle
thinking about this or even reading what I said.

I said the Universe is defined as "God" but God has no beginning or end
and therefore is outside of TIME, you dummy. Not "the universe". God is
outside of itself? And you atheists wonder why people laugh at your
"logic".

For some odd reason people DEMAND that everything have a beginning and
end because their lives do. But it does not follow that everything must
be like you. (Whew! Was that a scary thought or what?)

Did you ever hear of my BBB theory? (big bang is bullshit) It's quite
well received. That is a given.

>> The idea of the center of the universe being everywhere has nothing to
>> do with it being infinite. Has to do with it being a multi-dimensional
>> manifold (which oddly Sammy denies...he's such a denier!).
>>
>> I pity your kids hardblow. What a handicap they must live with.
>
>
> My children are all out on their own. Each has completed college. My
> oldest daughter has her doctorate. Obviously they have overcome this
> horrible handicap. You proud of them?'

Doctorate? Holy shit! Now she REALLY has a Handicap! I can only hope
she has what it takes to rise above it!

Osher

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On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 4:44:24 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> Where is the center of the universe?
>
>

According to one of the first posts, UCLA seems to believe (along with most physicists and astrophysicists - UCLA tends to imitate the majority) that the Universe has no center. While I do not claim that there is necessarily a center, the fact that UCLA believes that there is none tempts me to think that there may be one. The University of California, which I think is now 10 campuses including the "famous" U.C. Berkeley (more renowned for antiwar demonstrations than for physics, although there has been little ingenious about either in recent years), is worth several billion dollars (from investing tuition funds and donations in various markets in "safe" stocks or bonds or funds such as electricity (I was tempted to say mouthwash). The only very creative or very inventive branch is U.C. San Diego, although U.C. Santa Barbara arguably is stuffed with funds from its Kavli Institute (it is a marvellous resort town somewhat analogous to resorts on Russia's or Ukraine's Black Sea) and once in a while issues a wise paper in arxiv.

Osher Doctorow

Sam Wormley

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On 2/9/15 7:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Sam Wormley wrote:
>>
>> On 2/9/15 4:16 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Definition of BIG BANG
>>> : the cosmic explosion that marked the beginning of the universe
>>> according to the big bang theory
>>
>> Try: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
>>
>>> The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological model for the
>>> birth of the universe.[1][2][3] It states that at some moment all of
>>> space was contained in a single point from which the Universe has
>>> been expanding ever since. Modern measurements place this moment at
>>> approximately 13.8 billion years ago, which is thus considered the
>>> age of the universe.[4] After the initial expansion, the Universe
>>> cooled sufficiently to allow the formation of subatomic particles,
>>> and later simple atoms. Giant clouds of these primordial elements
>>> later coalesced through gravity to form stars and galaxies. The Big
>>> Bang theory does not provide any explanation for the initial
>>> conditions of the Universe; rather, it describes and explains the
>>> general evolution of the Universe going forward from that point on.
>
>
>
> Most people trust a merriam-webster dictionary more than they would a user-edited website like wikipedia.
>
>

Astronomers rely on observational evidence and testable (falsifiable)
mathematical models.

Sam Wormley

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On 2/10/15 7:06 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> As matter expands, so too does space·time;
> because space·time is matter and vice versa.

Matter is not expanding and is held by the strong and electromagnetic
forces. Space is expanding from the conservation of momentum and
Dark Energy.


Sam Wormley

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Feb 10, 2015, 1:25:31 PM2/10/15
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Not really.
Some religions imply a gods and omnipresence, but that's just some
religions.

Bast

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Feb 10, 2015, 1:26:15 PM2/10/15
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Are you actually beliving hvac about anything ?
I'll bet if he has kids , his hope is that someday they proudly can
say,....do you want that supersized ?
..And be the envy of the whole family.


Sam Wormley

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Feb 10, 2015, 1:27:09 PM2/10/15
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On 2/10/15 5:11 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 2/9/2015 8:10 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>
>>
>> Every point, every observer in an expanding universe looks to be the
>> center. It's just geometry of expanding space.
>
>
> When my children struggled with this concept, as many of the denizens of
> this group seem to be (cept my kids were 10 at the time), I used a
> simple analogy. I asked where the center was on an infinitely long piece
> of string. In a second I saw the lights going on in their 10 year old
> heads. Still, many on this group are so firmly entrenched in their
> stoic view of physics that education is out of the question.
>

I like the argument you made with your kids.



Sam Wormley

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Feb 10, 2015, 1:30:51 PM2/10/15
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On 2/10/15 5:04 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 2/9/2015 3:30 PM, G=EMC^2TreBert wrote:
>>
>>
>> Sam I know you are thinking of leaving when we have to contend with
>> these low wit hate mongers. Please don't because if you do I will too.
>
>
> Really?
>
> Sam, please leave these groups ASAP.
>

I took a break to pursue some online courses, but Herb didn't leave,
so I doubt that he will now. Anyway, Herb, is mostly harmless. And we
are friends.





Sam Wormley

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The Starmaker

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Feb 10, 2015, 1:54:39 PM2/10/15
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HVAC wrote:
>
> On 2/9/2015 8:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Most people trust a merriam-webster dictionary more than they would a user-edited website like wikipedia.
> >
> >
> > http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/big%20bang
> >
> > Definition of BIG BANG
> > : the cosmic explosion that marked the beginning of the universe
> > according to the big bang theory
>
> The dictionary definitions presented here, along with most of you
> people, are wrong. Just listen to ME....Then accept my definition as if
> it came from the mouth of god almighty himself.
>

there are too many gods almighties among yous...

The Starmaker

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Feb 10, 2015, 2:06:32 PM2/10/15
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I understand...
that you all were
given information
that is incorrect..

Maybe I asked the wrong question..

How about if I change the question to...


Is there a center of the universe?


The answer either has to be Yes or No.


In other words, does a "center" exist in the universe?


If you answer No, then you cannot have a center everywhere if no cneter
exist...if there is no center.

If you answer Yes, then there can only be one center...and any other
center you see is illusionary.


Of course the answer is Yes, there is a center....only one center.


But for some reason I cannot explain, yous have been told the answer is
No!


And the explanations given to yous....are Wrong.


I can explain why the answer is Yes...(and I also need to burn all your
textbooks)


The Starmaker

R Kym Horsell

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Feb 10, 2015, 2:10:26 PM2/10/15
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But it is all a big lie!! Scientists have fiddled with the data just to make it
*look* infinite and/or a piece of string and/or HVAC has kids!

--
[U]nlike the land surface, the atmosphere has shown no warming trend, either
over land or over ocean -- according to satellites and independent data from
weather balloons.
-- S Fred Singer

[However:]
<http://images.remss.com/msu/msu_time_series.html>
<http://images.remss.com/figures/measurements%5Cupper-air-temperature%
5Cvalidation/rss_radiosonde_ts_compare_mears.png>
<http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Satellite_Temperatures.png>
<http://graphs.kymhorsell.com/uah-lower-trop/>

[From UAH's own lower trop dataset 1978-2012:]
Year Mo Globe Land Ocean NH Land Ocean SH Land Ocean Trpcs Land Ocean
NoExt Land Ocean SoExt Land Ocean NoPol Land Ocean SoPol Land Ocean USA48
Trend 0.13 0.17 0.11 0.19 0.23 0.16 0.08 0.07 0.08 0.07 0.09 0.05
0.26 0.27 0.25 0.08 0.05 0.09 0.47 0.44 0.53 -0.04 -0.04 -0.04 0.23

Sam Wormley

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Feb 10, 2015, 2:11:23 PM2/10/15
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On 2/10/15 1:06 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Is there a center of the universe?

There is no center.

Sam Wormley

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On 2/10/15 1:10 PM, R Kym Horsell wrote:
> In sci.physics Sam Wormley <swor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2/10/15 5:11 AM, HVAC wrote:
>>> On 2/9/2015 8:10 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>>> Every point, every observer in an expanding universe looks to be the
>>>> center. It's just geometry of expanding space.
>>> When my children struggled with this concept, as many of the denizens of
>>> this group seem to be (cept my kids were 10 at the time), I used a
>>> simple analogy. I asked where the center was on an infinitely long piece
>>> of string. In a second I saw the lights going on in their 10 year old
>>> heads. Still, many on this group are so firmly entrenched in their
>>> stoic view of physics that education is out of the question.
>> I like the argument you made with your kids.
>
> But it is all a big lie!! Scientists have fiddled with the data just to make it
> *look* infinite and/or a piece of string and/or HVAC has kids!
>

<smiling>

hanson

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Feb 10, 2015, 4:18:46 PM2/10/15
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"Sam Wormley" <swor...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3Zednc0UgJXw0UfJ...@giganews.com...
>
> Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>> As matter expands, so too does space·time;
>> because space·time is matter and vice versa.
>
"Sam Wormley" wrote:
> Matter is not expanding and is held by the strong and electromagnetic
> forces. Space is expanding from the conservation of momentum and Dark
> Energy.
>
hanson wrote:
Now, that you guys have done your **vocal-yokel**
physics by trumpeting your buzzwords, gimme a
few equations that quantitatively & dimensionally
describe what you've proselytized for.



--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ne...@netfront.net ---

HVAC

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Feb 10, 2015, 5:18:18 PM2/10/15
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On 2/10/2015 12:01 PM, benj wrote:
>
>> Well then BJ, riddle me this. As a god believer, when did your god come
>> into existence? How long ago?
>>
>> BJ's answer: "God is outside of our universe and therefore doesn't
>> count".
>>
>> HVAC's reply: "Oh".
>
> As an ignorant atheist spawn of Satan, Harlow obviously can't handle
> thinking about this or even reading what I said.
>
> I said the Universe is defined as "God" but God has no beginning or end
> and therefore is outside of TIME, you dummy. Not "the universe". God is
> outside of itself? And you atheists wonder why people laugh at your
> "logic".


So I misparsed some of your words, big fucking deal.
My point was correct. Your 'mind' is stuck on stupid bc of your
absolutely preposterous idea of some mystical creature for which you
have zero evidence.


>>> The idea of the center of the universe being everywhere has nothing to
>>> do with it being infinite. Has to do with it being a multi-dimensional
>>> manifold (which oddly Sammy denies...he's such a denier!).


Again, your predilection towards the preposterous blinds you.
In short, you're a kook. No offense ofc

That is a given.

HVAC

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Feb 10, 2015, 5:21:37 PM2/10/15
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On 2/10/2015 2:10 PM, R Kym Horsell wrote:
>
>
> But it is all a big lie!! Scientists have fiddled with the data just to make it
> *look* infinite and/or a piece of string and/or HVAC has kids!


Always remember...There is no spoon.

HVAC

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Feb 10, 2015, 5:31:03 PM2/10/15
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On 2/10/2015 3:18 PM, Double-A wrote:
>
>
> The center of the universe must be located somewhere on its axis of rotation. Don't think it's rotating? Why not? Everything else is!


I've blow this foolishness out of the water before.
Rotating with what as a frame of reference? It's bullshit plain and simple.

HVAC

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Feb 10, 2015, 5:33:45 PM2/10/15
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Great! He's homeless right now and looking for a place to stay...

Jeff-Relf.Me

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Speaking Herb, anonymous coward @HVAC wrote:
> He's homeless right now and looking for a place to stay...

treBert/Herb and Double·A can't endure housemates.

Both can afford to rent a room in a "rooming house"
( where the bathrooms, kitchen, etc. are shared ).

treBert actually rents a room, but he won't sleep there.

Bast

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hanson wrote:
> "Sam Wormley" <swor...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3Zednc0UgJXw0UfJ...@giganews.com...
>>
>> Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>> As matter expands, so too does space·time;
>>> because space·time is matter and vice versa.
>>
> "Sam Wormley" wrote:
>> Matter is not expanding and is held by the strong and electromagnetic
>> forces. Space is expanding from the conservation of momentum and Dark
>> Energy.
>>
> hanson wrote:
> Now, that you guys have done your **vocal-yokel**
> physics by trumpeting your buzzwords, gimme a
> few equations that quantitatively & dimensionally
> describe what you've proselytized for.





Here you go. Pick your favorite
http://pixgood.com/complex-math-equation-on-chalkboard.html






benj

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Feb 10, 2015, 8:41:47 PM2/10/15
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On 02/10/2015 05:33 PM, HVAC wrote:
> On 2/10/2015 1:30 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 2/10/15 5:04 AM, HVAC wrote:
>>> On 2/9/2015 3:30 PM, G=EMC^2TreBert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sam I know you are thinking of leaving when we have to contend with
>>>> these low wit hate mongers. Please don't because if you do I will too.
>>>
>>>
>>> Really?
>>>
>>> Sam, please leave these groups ASAP.
>>>
>>
>> I took a break to pursue some online courses, but Herb didn't leave,
>> so I doubt that he will now. Anyway, Herb, is mostly harmless. And we
>> are friends.
>
>
> Great! He's homeless right now and looking for a place to stay...

Once "global warming" gets rid of the snow in Iowa Sam can let him park
his van in his front yard. Hopefully down wind.

benj

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Feb 10, 2015, 8:45:50 PM2/10/15
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On 02/10/2015 05:31 PM, HVAC wrote:
> On 2/10/2015 3:18 PM, Double-A wrote:
>>
>>
>> The center of the universe must be located somewhere on its axis of
>> rotation. Don't think it's rotating? Why not? Everything else is!
>
>
> I've blow this foolishness out of the water before.
> Rotating with what as a frame of reference? It's bullshit plain and simple.

Christ, Harlow. Double A is dense. Even *I* remember you trying to get
him to say what frame of reference the universe is measured against and
all we got was <crickets>.

hanson

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"Bast" <fake...@nomail.invalid> wrote>
in message news:mbe7id$qe2$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> hanson wrote:
>> "Sam Wormley" <swor...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:3Zednc0UgJXw0UfJ...@giganews.com...
>>>
>>> Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>>> As matter expands, so too does space·time;
>>>> because space·time is matter and vice versa.
>>>
>> "Sam Wormley" wrote:
>>> Matter is not expanding and is held by the strong and electromagnetic
>>> forces. Space is expanding from the conservation of momentum and Dark
>>> Energy.
>>>
>> hanson wrote:
>> Now, that you guys have done your **vocal-yokel**
>> physics by trumpeting your buzzwords, gimme a
>> few equations that quantitatively & dimensionally
>> describe what you've proselytized for.
>
Sebastian wrote:
> Here you go. Pick your favorite
> http://pixgood.com/complex-math-equation-on-chalkboard.html
>
hanson wrote:
Sebastian, you are showing by you link only your nightmare.
Pity.
>
To boot it will only discombobulate the 2 addressees,
and give them cause to get off the hook, you silly Bastard.
>
BTW, are you one of those mental patients who are
posting from rec.arts.sf.written, and use s.p. as therapy?


The Starmaker

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Now, the center of the universe is where the big bang occured.

(that was simple, wasn't it?)

But I'll explain what happen after the first two seconds when the big bang
occured so that you can understand what you see today, which appears
to have no center...

Two seconds after the big bang, the big bang created...clones of itself.

Sort of little big bangs...all around the center of the big bang.

Each clone of the big bang appears to look like The Big Bang.


So each clone big bang has it's owns stars...

all the clones appear simlliar..with just a touch of differences..


So, it appears that the big bang occured everywhere, but it didn't...
the big bang made carbon copies of itself through out the universe...but
there is only One Big Bang and only one Center..Only one universe.

No baby universes..just baby big bangs.


The Starmaker

HVAC

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Feb 11, 2015, 4:33:39 AM2/11/15
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On 2/10/2015 8:45 PM, benj wrote:
>
>>>
>>> The center of the universe must be located somewhere on its axis of
>>> rotation. Don't think it's rotating? Why not? Everything else is!
>>
>>
>> I've blow this foolishness out of the water before.
>> Rotating with what as a frame of reference? It's bullshit plain and
>> simple.
>
> Christ, Harlow. Double A is dense. Even *I* remember you trying to get
> him to say what frame of reference the universe is measured against and
> all we got was <crickets>.


I grow tired of being right all the time. Maybe I'll join you woo-woos.

I mean, even Alice vowed to believe six impossible things before breakfast.

Sam Wormley

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On 2/11/15 1:44 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Now, the center of the universe is where the big bang occured.

And the big bang occurred everywhere--no exceptions.

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn

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hanson wrote:

> "Sam Wormley" […] wrote […]:
>> Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>> As matter expands, so too does space·time;
>>> because space·time is matter and vice versa.
>>
> "Sam Wormley" wrote:
>> Matter is not expanding and is held by the strong and electromagnetic
>> forces. Space is expanding from the conservation of momentum and Dark
>> Energy.

ACK.

> Now, that you guys have done your **vocal-yokel**
> physics by trumpeting your buzzwords, gimme a
> few equations that quantitatively & dimensionally
> describe what you've proselytized for.

You would not understand them, therefore not accept them, so what’s the
point?

F'up2 sci.physics

--
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn

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benj wrote:

> On 02/09/2015 08:10 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 2/9/15 6:40 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Bast wrote:
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Where is the center of the universe?
>>>>>
>>>>> Where?
>>>>> […]
>>>>
>>>> If you want to go with either the big bang, or inflation theories.
>>>> The center is everywhere.
>>>
>>> Where is...everywhere?
>>
>> Every point, every observer in an expanding universe looks to be the
>> center. It's just geometry of expanding space.
>>
>> […]
>
> Sammy, you never disappoint! You still haven't noticed that in
> accepting the "no center" theory you must ALSO accept the "Universe has
> more dimensions than three not including time" theory as well.

Nonsense. The first document listed under ”No Center” (one of many others)
shows it can be confirmed even with only *two* spatial dimensions.

> You really could use a science education.

You could.

hanson

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Arschloch "Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn" <Point...@web.de> wrote in message
news:1637971.N...@PointedEars.de...
> hanson wrote:
>
>> "Sam Wormley" […] wrote […]:
>>> Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>>> As matter expands, so too does space·time;
>>>> because space·time is matter and vice versa.
>>>
>> "Sam Wormley" wrote:
>>> Matter is not expanding and is held by the strong and electromagnetic
>>> forces. Space is expanding from the conservation of momentum and Dark
>>> Energy.
>
> ACK.
>
>> Now, that you guys have done your **vocal-yokel**
>> physics by trumpeting your buzzwords, gimme a
>> few equations that quantitatively & dimensionally
>> describe what you've proselytized for.
>
ThomArschloch wrote
> You would not understand them, therefore not accept them,
so what’s the point?
>
hanson wrote:
Hey, du geisteskrankes Schwein, the point is that
YOU should explain what I asked Sam to do,
instead of you posting your besoffener dreck...
>
Do it now, bring on the Gleichungen, you Trottel.
Till, then thanks for the laugh, Du Sueffel....
ahahahaha... ahahahahanson

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn

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Feb 11, 2015, 12:28:28 PM2/11/15
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hanson wrote:

> Hey, du geisteskrankes Schwein, the point is that
> YOU should explain what I asked Sam to do,
> instead of you posting your besoffener dreck...
>>
> Do it now, bring on the Gleichungen, you Trottel.
> Till, then thanks for the laugh, Du Sueffel....
> ahahahaha... ahahahahanson

Hmmm. Whatever you do while posting, you should not do it.

Yousuf Khan

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Feb 11, 2015, 12:37:31 PM2/11/15
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On 08/02/2015 4:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Where is the center of the universe?
>
>
>
> Where?

In the past, at the Big Bang.

Yousuf Khan

Maciej Woźniak

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Użytkownik "Sam Wormley" napisał w wiadomości grup
dyskusyjnych:cIKdnaBlVpjo9UbJ...@giganews.com...

> Now, the center of the universe is where the big bang occured.
| And the big bang occurred everywhere--no exceptions.

Fortunately, as even some smarter physicists have to admit,
that there is no proof for this shit, nobody have to believe it.

Sam Wormley

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On 2/11/15 12:27 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Fortunately, as even some smarter physicists have to admit,
> that there is no proof for this shit, nobody have to believe it.

Nobody has to believe anything.
Also see Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html

WMAP: Foundations of the Big Bang theory
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html

WMAP: Tests of Big Bang Cosmology
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html

Jeff-Relf.Me

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Feb 11, 2015, 1:39:43 PM2/11/15
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Yousuf·Khan,  

The start of the known Universe ( the Big Bang ) is subjective;
it depends on who's doing the observing, when and where.

Everything rotates, including our Universe;
so the true center is unknown/unknowable.

Dorothy J Heydt

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In article <Jeff-R...@Feb.11{10.39A.Seattle.2015}>,
Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
><PRE><big><big> 
Considering that (AFAIK) the universe is larger than the part of
it we're able to see, the center of the universe is wherever the
observer is.

HVAC

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Feb 11, 2015, 2:15:47 PM2/11/15
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Really? Please list the names of these frauds.

hanson

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Arschloch "Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn" <Point...@web.de> wrote in message
news:7144034.K...@PointedEars.de...
>
> hanson wrote:
>> Hey, du geisteskrankes Schwein, the point is that
>> YOU should explain what I asked Sam to do,
>> instead of you posting your besoffener dreck...
>>>
>> Do it now, bring on the Gleichungen, you Trottel.
>> Till, then thanks for the laugh, Du Sueffel....
>> ahahahaha... ahahahahanson
>
"Arschloch "Thomas" wrote:
> Hmmm. Whatever you do while posting, you should not do it.
>
hanson wrote:
Thomarsch, is your social-advice 1-liner above,
your Equation, which I have asked Relf & Wormley
for?... or are you too fucking loaded and/or stupid
that "you would not even understand" the question.
Stop, meddling into affairs that are beyond your horizon.
>
So, here is the repeat for Relf & Wormely's benefit who
hopefully understand more then "Arschloch "Thomas":
> ---------------------

> Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>> As matter expands, so too does space·time;
>> because space·time is matter and vice versa.
>
"Sam Wormley" wrote:
> Matter is not expanding and is held by the strong and electromagnetic
> forces. Space is expanding from the conservation of momentum and Dark
> Energy.
>
hanson wrote:
Now, that you guys have done your **vocal-yokel**
physics by trumpeting your buzzwords, gimme a
few equations that quantitatively & dimensionally
describe what you've proselytized for.




benj

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Feb 11, 2015, 2:54:39 PM2/11/15
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Sam, my BBB theory is quite well accepted. I may give a lecture on it at
MIT. It's Nobel level thinking.

Bast

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Feb 11, 2015, 5:05:03 PM2/11/15
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Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> Uzytkownik "Sam Wormley" napisal w wiadomosci grup
> dyskusyjnych:cIKdnaBlVpjo9UbJ...@giganews.com...
>
>> Now, the center of the universe is where the big bang occured.
>> And the big bang occurred everywhere--no exceptions.
>
> Fortunately, as even some smarter physicists have to admit,
> that there is no proof for this shit, nobody have to believe it.




That's why it's called the, Big Bang THEORY.
And while it's the best (?) one (theory) on the table so far.
It may someday be regarded as laughable, and in the same category that the
Earth is the center of the Universe, and that everything else circles around
it mounted to crystalline spheres.


Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn

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Feb 11, 2015, 8:32:49 PM2/11/15
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hanson wrote:

> Arschloch "Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn" <Point...@web.de> wrote in
> message news:7144034.K...@PointedEars.de...
>>
>> hanson wrote:
>>> Hey, du geisteskrankes Schwein, the point is that
>>> YOU should explain what I asked Sam to do,
>>> instead of you posting your besoffener dreck...
>>>>
>>> Do it now, bring on the Gleichungen, you Trottel.
>>> Till, then thanks for the laugh, Du Sueffel....
>>> ahahahaha... ahahahahanson
>>
> "Arschloch "Thomas" wrote:
>> Hmmm. Whatever you do while posting, you should not do it.
>>
> hanson wrote:
> Thomarsch, is your social-advice 1-liner above, […]

Why do you think such talk would effect any serious response? Or is it
actually not a serious response, not knowledge, that you are seeking here?

And when will you learn to quote, let alone post? (Hint: Not you are
supposed to add the attribution line for your text, those who follow-up to
your postings are; this is automated by their software. See above.)

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn

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Feb 11, 2015, 8:39:45 PM2/11/15
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benj wrote:

> Sam, my BBB theory is quite well accepted. I may give a lecture on it at
> MIT. It's Nobel level thinking.

It explodes in your face upon closer examination?

Mahipal

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Feb 11, 2015, 9:04:19 PM2/11/15
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Thomas "PointedEars" my friend, relax, lay back.
You are not familiar with the history here at s.p. and it's misfiring on you.
Benj and hanson are surfing on their well earned DoubleSpeakIshQ.
Sam's a hired by money well paid Idiot idiot IDIOT.

-- Mahipal "Get The Picture!"

hanson

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Feb 11, 2015, 9:18:13 PM2/11/15
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hanson wrote:
Hey, "dumb-Thom-arschloch Lamer", where are your
equations? ... Bring'em on! ... This is your chance!....
>
If you can't do it, then just stay away from the issue,
instead of you repeatedly showing the world what
an Arschloch you are and in the process depriving
Relf and Wormley their chance to answer......
>
"Thomas 'PointLESS ' Lamer" <Point...@web.de>
gave again his pointless social advice, <snipped to save
him embarrassment> since he is just an Aschloch mit
Ohren, that cranked itself for being unable to post the
equations for this issue:

The Starmaker

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Feb 12, 2015, 3:35:22 AM2/12/15
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Each galaxy is a result of it's own big bang..

While the real big bang was busy exploding...space, it gave birth to baby...big bangs.

The baby big bangs manufactured the stars...


The real big bang was too busy gettin more room for it's babies...


So, to re-cap...
The Big Bang manufactured space, gave birth to baby bangs, and the galaxies were manufactured the little bangs.


It how stars were born.



The Starmaker


And that's that.

Maciej Woźniak

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Feb 12, 2015, 12:04:34 PM2/12/15
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Użytkownik "Sam Wormley" napisał w wiadomości grup
dyskusyjnych:AIednSQCcYNfPUbJ...@giganews.com...

On 2/11/15 12:27 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> Fortunately, as even some smarter physicists have to admit,
> that there is no proof for this shit, nobody have to believe it.

| Nobody has to believe anything.

And particularly - nobody has to believe any piece
of shit presented here by You and Your fellow
idiots.
I'm glad we agree about that.

Mahipal

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Feb 13, 2015, 1:18:42 AM2/13/15
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On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 3:35:22 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > I understand...
> > > that you all were
> > > given information
> > > that is incorrect..
> > >
> > > Maybe I asked the wrong question..
> > >
> > > How about if I change the question to...
> > >
> > > Is there a center of the universe?

How about you JUST STFU since your painful short sentences?!

> > > The answer either has to be Yes or No.

No no NO, it doesn't.

> > > In other words, does a "center" exist in the universe?

Let's just cut to, fast forward to, the chase...
The Chase... Actually I am Ok with posters responding to themselves.
How else would they have any one to call friends, to converse with?!
From StrawFart to StarFart to StarFart to ...youKNow... youGetSomeIdea.

> Each galaxy is a result of it's own big bang..

It's its, StrawBrain.

> While the real big bang was busy exploding...space, it gave birth to
> baby...big bangs.

So space is some vacuous female in your dreams.

> The baby big bangs manufactured the stars...

Leave the Children children CHILDREN alone you StrawPervert!

> The real big bang was too busy gettin more room for it's babies...

It's its you StrawBagOfBunk!

> So, to re-cap...

The Universe was holding its breath, please let this be your last re-word.

> The Big Bang manufactured space, gave birth to baby bangs, and the
> galaxies were manufactured the little bangs.

You have no No NO idea what the English Language is @#StrawTwitterErr.

> It how stars were born.

It's not It this 1==0! time Time TIME you its StrawBigOnceOddBanged!

> The Starmaker
>
> And that's that.

-- Mahipal 'And that's the way it is, repeated Walter Chronicles Chronkite'

Look StrawSackOfCrap, I so dislike SamWarmLies, who daily repeatedly
Cuts&Pastes&Plagiarizes a brazillion different bra+nd's spanking smell(y)
new threads per day, everyday; I #dislike @you only slightly less, StrawBoob.

hanson

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Feb 13, 2015, 3:41:57 AM2/13/15
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AHAHAHAHA..... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... Good one!....
"Virdy "Mahipal" <mahip...@gmail.com> was on a roll
when he wrote to
kike Sternmacher aka The Starmaker who wrote to:
>> The Starmaker who wrote to:
hanson wrote:
ahahaha... Good one!, Virdy. Listen, you got way over
Stermacher's StrawBrain when you told him that "1==0!".
>
He regarded the "!" as being an exclamation sign and
convinced himself that your are wrong.... ahahaha...
>
Different strokes for different folks, Virdy.
It's been good talking to you. Take care, old pal,
and thanks for the laughs.... hahahahahahanson

Sam Wormley

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Feb 13, 2015, 9:32:03 AM2/13/15
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On 2/12/15 2:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Each galaxy is a result of it's own big bang.

Frayed knot

HVAC

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Feb 13, 2015, 10:03:18 AM2/13/15
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Sam. Stop being such a hater.

Sam Wormley

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Feb 13, 2015, 10:09:17 AM2/13/15
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On 2/13/15 9:03 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 2/13/2015 9:31 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 2/12/15 2:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Each galaxy is a result of it's own big bang.
>>
>> Frayed knot
>
>
> Sam. Stop being such a hater.

Don't you just hate math an physics illiteracy?


HVAC

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Feb 13, 2015, 10:38:58 AM2/13/15
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No. Personally *I* don't hate Bert.

benj

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Feb 13, 2015, 12:47:15 PM2/13/15
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Sam, have you heard my BBB theory? It's quiet well accepted and Nobel
level thinking. It explains starmaker's theory too!



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benj

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Feb 13, 2015, 12:50:15 PM2/13/15
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On 02/13/2015 10:03 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 2/13/2015 9:31 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
>> On 2/12/15 2:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Each galaxy is a result of it's own big bang.
>>
>> Frayed knot
>
>
> Sam. Stop being such a hater.

:-)

Aren't you establishment promoters supposed to stick together?

I know. You couldn't help yourself. I understand.

The Starmaker

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Feb 13, 2015, 2:32:09 PM2/13/15
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benj wrote:
>
> On 02/13/2015 09:31 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > On 2/12/15 2:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> Each galaxy is a result of it's own big bang.
> >
> > Frayed knot
>
> Sam, have you heard my BBB theory? It's quiet well accepted and Nobel
> level thinking. It explains starmaker's theory too!


I don't make theories...


"Each galaxy is a result of it's own big bang." is not a theory, it's a fact.


It is 'how it works', not how it is 'thought to work'.

HVAC

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Feb 13, 2015, 3:27:44 PM2/13/15
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On 2/13/2015 2:55 PM, Arc Michael wrote:
>
>
> the libtards blame Fox news cons for starting such big bangs, so yes the US is full of tards.


If there was no USA there would be no 'free world'.

Love it, hate it...It's just the way it is.
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