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The Starmaker

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Apr 17, 2018, 1:01:13 PM4/17/18
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"Half the results published in peer-reviewed scientific journals are probably wrong.
John Ioannidis, now a professor of medicine at Stanford, made headlines with that claim in 2005.
Since then, researchers have confirmed his skepticism by trying—and often failing—to reproduce many influential journal articles.
Slowly, scientists are internalizing the lessons of this irreproducibility crisis."

Edward Prochak

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Apr 17, 2018, 1:50:11 PM4/17/18
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Don't know where you are quoting from, but the crisis is in
medical research, not physics.

from
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical-science/308269/

"Much of what medical researchers conclude in their studies is
misleading, exaggerated, or flat-out wrong. So why are doctors—to
a striking extent—still drawing upon misinformation in their
everyday practice? Dr. John Ioannidis has spent his career
challenging his peers by exposing their bad science."

Dr. Ioannidis is a good example of how to operate as a contrarian
in a scientific discipline. He actually does the research to test
the results of others. he has uncovered incompetence and fraud.

His approach is a welcome contrast to the claims of many
in this group who fail to research and understand the topics
that they proclaim as wrong.

Thankfully Physics usually is tested and retested.
Much harder to hide fraud in physics.

Enjoy.
Ed

The Starmaker

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Apr 17, 2018, 2:03:43 PM4/17/18
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Thomas Heger

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Apr 18, 2018, 10:39:49 AM4/18/18
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Am 17.04.2018 um 19:01 schrieb The Starmaker:
> "Half the results published in peer-reviewed scientific journals are probably wrong.

The problem is: they don't know which half....


TH

Edward Prochak

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Apr 18, 2018, 11:26:55 AM4/18/18
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On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 2:03:43 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
>
> https://www.nas.org/projects/irreproducibility_report

"A reproducibility crisis afflicts a wide range of scientific and social-scientific disciplines, from epidemiology to social psychology."

Not Physics.

The Starmaker

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Apr 18, 2018, 1:31:57 PM4/18/18
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you have to write it in a way...that the person reading it doesn't
understand it.


All you have to do is throw in a lot of numbers and the reader...

Thomas Heger

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Apr 19, 2018, 12:46:20 PM4/19/18
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Am 18.04.2018 um 19:31 schrieb The Starmaker:

>>> "Half the results published in peer-reviewed scientific journals are probably wrong.
>>
>> The problem is: they don't know which half....
>>
>> TH
>
>
>
> you have to write it in a way...that the person reading it doesn't
> understand it.
>
>
> All you have to do is throw in a lot of numbers and the reader...
>

Well, there are many ways possible, if your intention is to disturb the
readers mind.

First you need dogmas, that are blatantly wrong, but absolutely
untouchable.

E.g. I'm a proponent of the so called 'Growing Earth' hypothesis. I have
actually spent years on that subject and have written hundreds of
messages to various forums. But my arguments are always rejected, since
'it cannot be true, because it violates the laws'.

To question the 'laws' itself is prohibited and once a professional
does, he will almost certainly loose his job.

Other 'law' is 'the universal speed limit of c'.

Someone found, that neutrinos travel faster than c (and subsequently got
fired).

We have also the Russian Podclednov, who found certain gravitational
effects from spinning super-conductive rings (got banned and fired).

(This goes on and on and on...)


TH


Edward Prochak

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Apr 19, 2018, 5:14:12 PM4/19/18
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On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 12:46:20 PM UTC-4, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 18.04.2018 um 19:31 schrieb The Starmaker:
>
> >>> "Half the results published in peer-reviewed scientific journals are probably wrong.
> >>
> >> The problem is: they don't know which half....
> >>
> >> TH
> >
> >
> >
> > you have to write it in a way...that the person reading it doesn't
> > understand it.
> >
> >
> > All you have to do is throw in a lot of numbers and the reader...
> >
>
> Well, there are many ways possible, if your intention is to disturb the
> readers mind.
>
> First you need dogmas, that are blatantly wrong, but absolutely
> untouchable.
>
> E.g. I'm a proponent of the so called 'Growing Earth' hypothesis. I have
> actually spent years on that subject and have written hundreds of
> messages to various forums. But my arguments are always rejected, since
> 'it cannot be true, because it violates the laws'.

No, to say that "it violates the laws" is to say that the theory
would not produce predictions that match known experimental results.
That's all it means.

>
> To question the 'laws' itself is prohibited and once a professional
> does, he will almost certainly loose his job.

Another falsehood. Look up Robert Oldershaw and his fractal
universe theory. He continues to work in the field though
the chance of his theory making progress is small.

>
> Other 'law' is 'the universal speed limit of c'.
>
> Someone found, that neutrinos travel faster than c (and subsequently got
> fired).

NO, the team went back to analyze their data again and found their error.
Stop spreading false history. No one fired.

>
> We have also the Russian Podclednov, who found certain gravitational
> effects from spinning super-conductive rings (got banned and fired).
>
Seems that he is now working elsewhere.

> (This goes on and on and on...)
>
>
> TH

It goes on and on only in conspiracy circles.

Ed

The Starmaker

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Apr 20, 2018, 2:45:21 AM4/20/18
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according to Albert Einstein...'in his own words' he said:

'If you oppose my theories, you're an anti-semitic.'


http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3/
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3/ocr/
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3.pdf

""Why were men of science opposed
to your theory when you first made it
known ?"
"No men of science," he replied, em
phasizing the last'word, "were against
the theory."
"But there was some opposition?"
"Yes," was the quiet reply, "but that
was purely political. Even the physi
cists who opposed my theory did so for
political reasons?in my opinion, o'
course."
"What do you mean when you say
the opposition was political?"
"Anti-Semitism," was the scientist's
answer. "Because I am a Jew." ""

Thomas Heger

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Apr 20, 2018, 11:54:27 AM4/20/18
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Am 20.04.2018 um 08:45 schrieb The Starmaker:

> ""Why were men of science opposed
> to your theory when you first made it
> known ?"
> "No men of science," he replied, em
> phasizing the last'word, "were against
> the theory."
> "But there was some opposition?"
> "Yes," was the quiet reply, "but that
> was purely political. Even the physi
> cists who opposed my theory did so for
> political reasons?in my opinion, o'
> course."
> "What do you mean when you say
> the opposition was political?"
> "Anti-Semitism," was the scientist's
> answer. "Because I am a Jew." ""
>
Einstein was a promoter of Zionism and a Jew, but not a Semite.

Einstein was a German and born in Ulm.

'Semites' are people, that live in the middle east. You could (somehow)
translate this terms with 'Arabs' (what Einstein wasn't).

Zionism is also not predominately Jewish, since Judaism is a religion
and Zionism a political movement.

Main supporters of this movement have not been Jews (or Semites). E.g.
Winston Churchill was a supporter of Zionism and he was not particularly
religious.

The connection between ethnic groups, political movement and religion is
actually more difficult than you think.

In a way Islam, Christianity and Judaism belong actually the same
believe system called 'monotheism'.

A German historian named Karl Heinz Ohlig had found out, that the early
Islam was a variant of the 'per-Nicean' Syrian Christianity, called
'Arianism'.

The Arabs adopted this believe after they conquered the city Merv in the
empire of the Sassanides. The Arians had kind of Messias (prophet), who
belonged to the Jewish sect of the Essenes, who live in Qumran at the
Dead Sea.

This prophet had the Aramaic title 'Mahmed', which means 'the one to be
praised'.

That guy got later the Greek name 'Iesos', which later morphed into 'Jesus'.

The Arabs translated the Qumran scripts into Arabic around 830 and
changed 'Mahmed' to 'Mohammed' (and added a few centuries).

So all these religions are in fact only one, but had been altered in
many ways by the rulers in the various Empires involved.

The Romans fused they local pantheon into the early Christian believe,
which in the beginning was a variant of Judaism. Out came what we call
'Catholicism'.

Against the early Christians ('Arians') revolted and were therefore
prosecuted by the Romans.

They fled from Syria along the Silk Road to the Empire of the Sassanides
and settled in Merv, which was then the largest city in the World.


TH


Sergio

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Apr 24, 2018, 11:33:48 AM4/24/18
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very true

>
> In a way Islam, Christianity and Judaism belong actually the same
> believe system called 'monotheism'.

Islam got rid of 3 gods in 1 that the Christians have, major selling
point of islam is it has one god.

>
> A German historian named Karl Heinz Ohlig had found out, that the early
> Islam was a variant of the 'per-Nicean' Syrian Christianity, called
> 'Arianism'.
>
> The Arabs adopted this believe after they conquered the city Merv in the
> empire of the Sassanides. The Arians had kind of Messias (prophet), who
> belonged to the Jewish sect of the Essenes, who live in Qumran at the
> Dead Sea.
>
> This prophet had the Aramaic title 'Mahmed', which means 'the one to be
> praised'.
>
> That guy got later the Greek name 'Iesos', which later morphed into
> 'Jesus'.
>
> The Arabs translated the Qumran scripts into Arabic around 830 and
> changed 'Mahmed' to 'Mohammed' (and added a few centuries).
>
> So all these religions are in fact only one, but had been altered in
> many ways by the rulers in the various Empires involved.

not so, Cathloics comes from the old and new "Bible",
Islam from the "Koran", and they are completely different.

but go back to Zoroastrianism, many of the beliefs the 3 above, started
with them

The Starmaker

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Apr 24, 2018, 12:01:15 PM4/24/18
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Thomas Heger wrote:
>
> Am 20.04.2018 um 08:45 schrieb The Starmaker:
>
> > ""Why were men of science opposed
> > to your theory when you first made it
> > known ?"
> > "No men of science," he replied, em
> > phasizing the last'word, "were against
> > the theory."
> > "But there was some opposition?"
> > "Yes," was the quiet reply, "but that
> > was purely political. Even the physi
> > cists who opposed my theory did so for
> > political reasons?in my opinion, o'
> > course."
> > "What do you mean when you say
> > the opposition was political?"
> > "Anti-Semitism," was the scientist's
> > answer. "Because I am a Jew." ""
> >
> Einstein was a promoter of Zionism and a Jew, but not a Semite.


As I see it, it's the opposite:
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=31LfWoqtD4WytQW456XwAQ&q=einstein+against+zionism+letter&oq=einstein+against+zionism+letter&gs_l=psy-ab.12...752.12120.0.13828.30.28.0.0.0.0.830.1094.2-1j6-1.2.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..28.2.1092...0j0i131k1j0i131i46k1j46i131k1.0.e-bOEIFVpb4


Einstein was against...zionism. Where do you get your info from?

Thomas Heger

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Apr 24, 2018, 12:39:15 PM4/24/18
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Am 24.04.2018 um 18:01 schrieb The Starmaker:
...
>> Einstein was a promoter of Zionism and a Jew, but not a Semite.
>
>
> As I see it, it's the opposite:
...

>
>
> Einstein was against...zionism. Where do you get your info from?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein>
Quote:

"
[quote from Einstein:]
Long before the emergence of Hitler I made the cause of Zionism mine
because through it I saw a means of correcting a flagrant wrong....The
Jewish people alone has for centuries been in the anomalous position of
being victimized and hounded as a people, though bereft of all the
rights and protections which even the smallest people normally
has...Zionism offered the means of ending this discrimination. Through
the return to the land to which they were bound by close historic
ties...Jews sought to abolish their pariah status among peoples..."
...

"His speeches and lectures about Zionism were published in 1931 by The
Macmillan Company[21] and eleven of these essays were collected in a
1933 book entitled Mein Weltbild and translated into English as The
World as I See It; Einstein's foreword dedicates the collection "to the
Jews of Germany" "



TH

The Starmaker

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Apr 24, 2018, 12:50:33 PM4/24/18
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wikipedia is a user edited website...which means it's filled with
propaganda.

If you view the history original source of the person who first posted
it on wikipedia...


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Thomas Heger

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Apr 25, 2018, 8:26:59 AM4/25/18
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Am 24.04.2018 um 18:50 schrieb The Starmaker:
But YOU have actually posted this link:

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1921-04-03/ed-1/seq-3/

It is New-York tribune., April 03, 1921, Page 3, Image 3

The article you quoted has the title:

"Zionists greet Einstein, here for Palestine"

So, IOW, to deny Einstein the status as a Zionist is like claiming, the
pope would be a Muslim.

Einstein was actually in the very middle of the Zionist mainstream.
Israel actually offered him the position as a president.

BTW Zionism is not exactly Jewish, since 'Zion' is the name of the
temple mount in Jerusalem. The Zionists wanted the Jews to go there,
even if God (Allah, YHW) told them to go away from there.


TH


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