Evidence of the medium of space
mpc755
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html
"Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
water."
The ripple will eventually reach the Earth and this is evidence dark
matter exists from the galaxy cluster to the Earth. This is evidence
dark matter is the medium of space in which light waves propagate.
BURT
> 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...
>
> "Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
> water."
>
> The ripple will eventually reach the Earth and this is evidence dark
> matter exists from the galaxy cluster to the Earth. This is evidence
> dark matter is the medium of space in which light waves propagate.
Space is an dimension and aether geometry combination. Time shares the
geometry supplied by the gravity in space that pushes.
Mitch Raemsch
mpc755
BURT
> 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...
>
> "Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
> water."
>
> The ripple will eventually reach the Earth and this is evidence dark
> matter exists from the galaxy cluster to the Earth. This is evidence
> dark matter is the medium of space in which light waves propagate.
Dark matter does not exist. If it is most of the universe it ought to
be found in the solar system but it has never been. Your Dark matter
ferry would leave it on Earth too. I think you have gone insane.
What principles are you using in science?
How long are you going to use science against itself?
If you do not believe it you ought not use it.
The idea of winning is only temporary when you are using something you
don't believe to disprove itself. The idea of winning is to be a
corrective force not a bully. But you can't win if you have nothing
that is true.
And that is the state of Einsteinian science for a little while
longer.
Mitch Raemsch
mpc755
Does the ripple reach the Earth?
'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html
BURT
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Science is a collection of mistakes. Modern science says that about
the past but it hasn't yet went beyond that. Modern science has turned
away from its most objective representative Albert Einstein. Science
had a need to judge him. But now he will be found by science to be
right and them wrong.
Mitch Raemsch
mpc755
mpc755
> 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...
>
> "Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
> water."
>
> The ripple will eventually reach the Earth and this is evidence dark
> matter exists from the galaxy cluster to the Earth. This is evidence
> dark matter is the medium of space in which light waves propagate.
Part of the caption below reads, "the result of two waves colliding"
http://www.clarklittlephotography.com/images/news/articles/ng_article_marlin-combo_880.jpg
The analogy for the galaxy clusters collision is the collision between
two boats. The bow waves associated with the boats collide and create
a ripple. This is what occurred between the galaxy clusters. The
displaced dark matter associated with each of the galaxy clusters
forms a ripple when the galaxy clusters collide.
The ripple is evidence of gravity waves.
The ripple is evidence of the medium of space.
Unified_Perspective
> On Jul 29, 8:53 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...
>
> > "Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
> > water."
>
> > The ripple will eventually reach the Earth and this is evidence dark
> > matter exists from the galaxy cluster to the Earth. This is evidence
> > dark matter is the medium of space in which light waves propagate.
>
> Part of the caption below reads, "the result of two waves colliding"
>
>
> The analogy for the galaxy clusters collision is the collision between
> two boats. The bow waves associated with the boats collide and create
> a ripple. This is what occurred between the galaxy clusters. The
> displaced dark matter associated with each of the galaxy clusters
> forms a ripple when the galaxy clusters collide.
>
> The ripple is evidence of gravity waves.
> The ripple is evidence of the medium of space.
Dark matter was originally proposed as a hypothetical way of
explaining the manner in which the universe is expanding. There is a
mass deficit in the current mean mass-energy density in relation to
the long ago mean mass-energy density necessary to account for the
rate at which we presently measure the universe to be expanding.
A far more reasonable explanation of the observed data is that some
(i.e. the invisible part) of the mean mass-energy density of the past
universe was collected into black holes and dissipated through Hawking
radiation, also known as heat....
While it may seem reasonable to some to imagine a new form of matter
completely unlike any known matter and to find "evidence" for this
matter in quantum mechanical equations and celestial signs and
portents, this is actually the opposite of the scientific method which
is to collect data and to derive from the data relations that show
broad applicability to other known observable data. Relativity is a
very very good example of a group of individuals using data to develop
a mathematical and theoretical explanation of many type of data, most
of which were known at the time of the break through in understanding,
but many of which were not. The newly discovered data that matches the
now well established theory is often referred to as predictive
validation. The "discovery" of yet more data that supports an
established theory.
The theory of dark matter does explain the mass deficit data but other
theories do so in less imaginative ways. The theory of dark matter
does not to my knowledge explain any other data and so it is weak in
it foundation and fails in predictive validation, at least, that is my
opinion at this time.
As to the new "evidence" you sight. "Image right: This Hubble Space
Telescope composite image shows a ghostly "ring" of dark matter in the
galaxy cluster Cl 0024+17. The ring-like structure is evident in the
blue map of the cluster's dark matter distribution." from;
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html
Well, first off it is a composite image, as in photo shop imagery.
Secondly, there is a distinct peak in the center of the blue image as
well as the blue halo. This same distribution can be readily observed
in the common 'cow pie', readily found in most livestock holding
areas, and for substantially the same reasons.
If you project a 3 dimensional explosive event onto a two dimensional
plane a cow pie pattern is what you often get. Meteor craters and a
host of other phenomena also fit this pattern. I only chose the cow
pie example because of the close correlation between cow pies and dark
matter theory...
Sincerely,
Mr. Gee
Androcles
"Unified_Perspective" <agal...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 31, 10:24 am, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 29, 8:53 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark
> > Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...
>
> > "Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
> > water."
>
> > The ripple will eventually reach the Earth and this is evidence dark
> > matter exists from the galaxy cluster to the Earth. This is evidence
> > dark matter is the medium of space in which light waves propagate.
>
> Part of the caption below reads, "the result of two waves colliding"
>
> http://www.clarklittlephotography.com/images/news/articles/ng_article...
>
> The analogy for the galaxy clusters collision is the collision between
> two boats. The bow waves associated with the boats collide and create
> a ripple. This is what occurred between the galaxy clusters. The
> displaced dark matter associated with each of the galaxy clusters
> forms a ripple when the galaxy clusters collide.
>
> The ripple is evidence of gravity waves.
> The ripple is evidence of the medium of space.
Dark matter was originally proposed as a hypothetical way of
explaining the manner in which the universe is expanding.
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Bullshit.
Dork matter was originally proposed by dorks as a hypothetical way
of explaining the manner in which the galaxies APPEAR to rotate
too rapidly.
mpc755
wrote:
> "Unified_Perspective" <agall...@gmail.com> wrote in message
So, if dark matter does not exist, what ripples?
'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html
mpc755
>
> Well, first off it is a composite image, as in photo shop imagery.
> Secondly, there is a distinct peak in the center of the blue image as
> well as the blue halo. This same distribution can be readily observed
> in the common 'cow pie', readily found in most livestock holding
> areas, and for substantially the same reasons.
>
> If you project a 3 dimensional explosive event onto a two dimensional
> plane a cow pie pattern is what you often get. Meteor craters and a
> host of other phenomena also fit this pattern. I only chose the cow
> pie example because of the close correlation between cow pies and dark
> matter theory...
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Mr. Gee
The peak in the center of the blue image is the dark matter falling
back towards the point of the collision. Similar to the point where
the rock enters the water.
http://thoughtsfromthecouch.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/ripple-crop.jpg
'Mysterious Cosmic 'Dark Flow' Tracked Deeper into Universe'
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/releases/2010/10-023.html
'The clusters appear to be moving along a line extending from our
solar system toward Centaurus/Hydra, but the direction of this motion
is less certain. Evidence indicates that the clusters are headed
outward along this path, away from Earth, but the team cannot yet rule
out the opposite flow. "We detect motion along this axis, but right
now our data cannot state as strongly as we'd like whether the
clusters are coming or going," Kashlinsky said.'
The clusters are headed along this path because the Universe is, or
the local Universe we exist in is, a jet stream. Analogous to the jet
stream of a black hole.
The following is an image of a jet stream:
http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
The reason for the expansion of the universe is the continual emission
of dark matter. In the image above, '1st Stars' is where the
conditions enable dark matter to be compressed into matter.
BURT
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The space medium of aether has a round geometry generated by gravity.
The curve starts at the center and radiates to the end of range
determined by mass.
God creates this gravity whole; round space flowing inward programming
time rate.
Mitch Raemsch
mpc755
Does the ripple reach the Earth?
'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html
glird
>
> "Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the water."
The ripple will eventually reach the Earth and this is evidence dark
matter exists from the galaxy cluster to the Earth. This is evidence
dark matter is the medium of space in which light waves propagate.
A different kind of ripple already reached us, as proved by NASA's
Hubble Telescope.
It is called "light". And yes, MPC, as written in a 1965 book "The
Nature of Matter and Energy", a non-particulate luminiferous material
now called "dark matter" exists from the galaxy cluster to the Earth
and is the space-filling compressible medium in which light waves
propagate. It is called "dark" because it transmits pressure-density
waves without reflection, thus is invisible per se.
This one kind of material is what all particles are made of,
including atoms and smaller bits and pieces. It has a few basic
properties; one is that it exerts an expansive pressure ("sorce")
outwardly from any point of it; and another is that its resistance to
further compression increases non-linearly as it is compressed.
When compressed, its density increases, and a density gradient (grad
d) thus exists.
a local equilibrium exists when the density has increased exactly
enough to cancel what had been a sorce-pressure gradient (grad s); ie.
when grad d is steep enough that grad s = 0.
THAT is the cause of the force called gravity to arise in any
embedded particle.
glird
BURT
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How can jet streams get out of a black hole?
Mitch Raemsch
mpc755
Wrong thread for that question. See my response in the thread titled,
"The Universe is, or the local Universe we exist in is, a jet stream".
Does the ripple reach the Earth?
'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html
BURT
If black holes are part of the medium of space then you need to have
an answer.
I address what you say as a whole. You believe in black holes. I
don't.
Please show how your jet streams get out of something that can never
be escaped.
Going somewhere else to prove my point is rediculous.
Mitch Raemsch
mpc755
This thread is discussing dark matter as the medium of space. This
thread is specifically discussing the ripple associated with the
galaxy cluster collision. This thread asks a very simple question
which for some reason is unanswerable by 'mainstream' physics.
Does the ripple eventually reach the Earth?
'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html
BURT
What about the dark matter of the jet stream as part of that?
>
> Does the ripple eventually reach the Earth?
>
> 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...
>
> "Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a
>
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mpc755
Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material.
Dark matter and matter have mass.
Dark matter is displaced by matter.
Dark matter is not at rest when displaced.
Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter.
The pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is
gravity.
The ripple is displaced dark matter.
'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html
"Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
mpc755
'Mainstream' physics mistakes dark energy for dark matter. Because of
the absurd nonsense of the 'Big Bang' there has to be a mysterious
energy which is able to cause the observed expansion. Dark matter is
emitted into the jet stream the Universe is, or the local Universe we
exist in is. This continual emission of dark matter causes the
Observed behaviors.
For example:
'Mysterious Cosmic 'Dark Flow' Tracked Deeper into Universe'
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/releases/2010/10-023.html
'The clusters appear to be moving along a line extending from our
solar system toward Centaurus/Hydra, but the direction of this motion
is less certain. Evidence indicates that the clusters are headed
outward along this path, away from Earth, but the team cannot yet rule
out the opposite flow. "We detect motion along this axis, but right
now our data cannot state as strongly as we'd like whether the
clusters are coming or going," Kashlinsky said.'
The clusters are headed along this path because the Universe is, or
the local Universe we exist in is, a jet stream. Analogous to the jet
stream of a black hole.
The following is an image of a jet stream:
http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html
The reason for the expansion of the universe is the continual emission
of dark matter. In the image above, '1st Stars' is where the
conditions enable dark matter to be compressed into matter.
This thread is focused on the following:
Does the ripple reach the Earth?
'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html
mpc755
Does the ripple eventually reach the Earth? If not then why not.
Dark matter is displaced by matter.
Dark matter is not at rest when displaced.
Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter.
Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is energy.
Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity.
mpc755
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html
"Astronomers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
water."
If space is a void then what ripples?
Space is not a void.
Does the ripple eventually reach the Earth? If not then why not?