On 24/04/2018 12:19, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 3:00:04 AM UTC-6, Keith Stein wrote:
>>
>> On 23/04/2018 13:40, Gary Harnagel wrote:
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 2:59:35 AM UTC-6, Keith Stein wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is very much the same evidence as for the Big Bang, Mr.Harnagel.
>>>> Either theory can explain the Hubble red-shifts, and the CMBR. The
>>>> advantage of the light slowing explanation is that there is no need to
>>>> invoke the additional, and highly speculative, theories of 'inflation'
>>>> and 'dark energy'.
>>
>>> I'm neither an inflation nor a FLRW fan myself.
>>
>> Well there's something we agree on Mr.Harnagel, although to be honest
>> i've no idea what "FLRW" is eh!
>
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedmann%E2%80%93Lema%C3%AEtre%E2%80%93Robertson%E2%80%93Walker_metric
> If you are ignorant of the presently-accepted model, why are you even
> babbling about something else?
I'm not entirely ignorant of the Big Bang model, Mr.Harnagel, and i do
understand how it came about by interpreting the Hubble red-shifts as
Doppler shifts. Indeed a very understandable misinterpretation since
astronomers regularly measured velocities by means of Doppler shifts eh!
What a red shift from a distant galaxy actually proves, Mr.Harnagel, is
that it takes longer for light from a distant galaxy to reach Earth
today than it did yesterday. Now there are at least two, and probably
only two, reasons why this could be Mr.Harnagel. It could indeed be that
because the galaxy is moving away from the Earth the light has further
to travel today than it did yesterday. This would be your FLRW model eh!
The alternative is that the speed of light is slowing down, and this
would be my model eh!
>>> So to address your question. If the speed of light were faster in the
>>> past, many processes would be different. Just think of all the equations
>>> describing physical values that have c in them, such as the fine-structure
>>> constant:
>>
>>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-structure_constant#Is_the_fine-structure_constant_actually_constant?
>>
>> I do thank you for providing that relevant and thought provoking link,
>> Mr.Harnagel. I was struck by the following little extract:-
>>
>> "......were α to change by 4%, stellar fusion would not produce
>> carbon, so that carbon-based life would be impossible. If α were greater
>> than 0.1, stellar fusion would be impossible and no place in the
>> universe would be warm enough for life as we know it."
>>
>> From which i take you would imply that if the speed of light in
>> intergalactic space were to change by 4% then .you and i would not be
>> here to discuss it Mr.Harnagel. Well i think there is strong evidence
>> that the speed of light has indeed changed by much more than 4%, and yet
>> here we are eh! Also since the universe and therefore the intergalactic
>> medium are clearly evolving, what else could one expect.
>
> I don't see that "evidence."
>
>>> "Webb et al. found that their spectra were consistent with a slight increase
>>> in α over the last 10–12 billion years." Specifically, 5.7x10^-6 parts per
>>> ~10 billion years.
>>>
>>>> Well if you really want comments, i would suggest it is rather brief
>>>> (for a magnum opus eh!),
>>>
>>> I don't cast me pearls before swine :-)
I do, all the time eh!
>>>> and also so far as i am aware there is no
>>>> evidence for that.
>>
>>> Actually, the same evidence as for the big bang.
>>>
>>>
https://everything2.com/title/ekpyrotic+universe
>>
>> "The Ekpyrotic model relies on the universe consisting of a five
>> dimensional space-time, that is bounded by two (3+1)-dimensional
>> surfaces (3-branes) which are separated by a finite gap. This
>> corresponds to the 11 dimension universe we live in now,...."
>>
>> Your problem Mr.Harnagel is you can't recognize Bull Shit when you see
>> it eh!
>>
>> keith stein
>
> Your problem, Mr. Stein, is that you see bullshit everywhere except for what
> you produce yourself.
>
Too true Mr.Harnagel. Too true eh!
keith stein