Re: Aether -- its properties & equations
Y.Porat
> For subject reference only:
>
> <http://tinyurl.com/post-REL-cGHh-Theories>
>
> <http://tinyurl.com/Aether-Properties-Equations>
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Hanson my friend
all what they dohere is
FIDDLING EXPERIMENTAL DATA
TO MATHEMATICAL FORMULA!
nothing more
they have no idea why it is so
wahtis the physical entity behind it
how and why it works
--
aether cannot be a constant entity
because our universe is expanding
Aether cannot be filling all universe
because there must be complete Vacuum
locations or else no movement can be done!
soit cannot be a universal constant
as long as they dont know (and never will know)
how many kilograms of Aether are there in a cubic meter of space -
IF AT ALL IT IS AN UNKNOWN VARIABLE !
and you cant base a theory on unknown
constants
they canot tell you a fuck about
structure of matter of particles etc etc
in short
wasting human resources and time
so
even the crippled current theory does it better
ATB
Y.Porat
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hanson
>
"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
For subject reference only:
<http://tinyurl.com/post-REL-cGHh-Theories>
<http://tinyurl.com/Aether-Properties-Equations>
>
Hanson my friend, all what they do here is
FIDDLING EXPERIMENTAL DATA
TO MATHEMATICAL FORMULA!
waht is the physical entity behind it
how and why it works
>
True, that's the nature of science. Einstein's
own comment on this, in the few instances when
he was not lying or grand-standing, was:
||AE"|| "If we knew what it was we were doing,
||AE"|| it would not be called research, would it?"
>
Yehi wrote:
aether cannot be a constant entity because
our universe is expanding
>
expanding... schmexpanding.. ahaha... and
if so then the aether makes it expand...ahaha...
>
Yehi wrote:
Aether cannot be filling all universe
because there must be complete Vacuum
locations or else no movement can be done!
>
... ahahahahaha... Well, then make a theory that
proves it. Your new theory here will undoubtedly
run afoul with Cavedon's mpc755 theory. You 2
guys should straighten out these differences cuz,
carnally at least, you both live in the same universe.
>
Yehi wrote:
so Aether cannot be a universal constant
>
hanson wrote:
... ahahahaha.. That's also a new one by you
Yehi. I have never heard of Aether as being
a constant. Most refer to aether as a "state"
>
Yehi wrote:
as long as they dont know (and never will know)
how many kilograms of Aether are there in a
cubic meter of space -
>
Repeating for you, Yehi. I answered that on 2-Nov-2010
>
"It's H*hbar / (4/3 pi* R^3*c^2). You run the numbers"
Well, let me pencil it out for you, Yehi.
It's equivalent to a mass of 1.9*10^-151 kg/m^3,
(a magnitude of a power of negative hundred fifty-one)
>
Now "go figure" & tell me when we'll have technology
to measure mass amounts of (-151) magnitudes,
and I add here, Yehi: You, me, anybody can assert
(behaupten) anything you, me, a/he wishes, in any
theory, just like YOU do in your own Porat-theories.
That's why they are called Theories.
>
Yehi wrote:
IF AT ALL IT IS AN UNKNOWN VARIABLE !
and you cant base a theory on unknown constants
they canot tell you a fuck about structure of matter
of particles etc etc in short wasting human resources
and time so even the crippled current theory does
>
hanson wrote:
I wouldn't say that it is a waste of time and human'
resources. Theories a essentially human tools to
convey one generation's perception of nature to
the next one: "Daddy's telling kiddo how things are"
BUT make no mistake, and you are right, Yehi:
All theories are crippled attempts to describe nature.
>
Take care, my dear old haver,
hanson
Y.Porat
>
> hanson wrote:
>
> ... ahahahahaha... Well, then make a theory that
> proves it. Your new theory here will undoubtedly
> run afoul with Cavedon's mpc755 theory. You 2
> guys should straighten out these differences cuz,
> carnally at least, you both live in the same universe.
>
> Yehi wrote:
>
> so Aether cannot be a universal constant
>
> hanson wrote:
>
> ... ahahahaha.. That's also a new one by you
> Yehi. I have never heard of Aether as being
> a constant. Most refer to aether as a "state"
>
> Yehi wrote:
>
> as long as they dont know (and never will know)
> how many kilograms of Aether are there in a
> cubic meter of space -
>
> hanson wrote:
>
> Repeating for you, Yehi. I answered that on 2-Nov-2010
>
> "It's H*hbar / (4/3 pi* R^3*c^2). You run the numbers"
> Well, let me pencil it out for you, Yehi.
> It's equivalent to a mass of 1.9*10^-151 kg/m^3,
(:-)
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> (a magnitude of a power of negative hundred fifty-one)
>
> Now "go figure" & tell me when we'll have technology
> to measure mass amounts of (-151) magnitudes,
> and I add here, Yehi: You, me, anybody can assert
> (behaupten) anything you, me, a/he wishes, in any
> theory, just like YOU do in your own Porat-theories.
> That's why they are called Theories.
>
> Yehi wrote:
>
> IF AT ALL IT IS AN UNKNOWN VARIABLE !
> and you cant base a theory on unknown constants
> they canot tell you a fuck about structure of matter
> of particles etc etc in short wasting human resources
> and time so even the crippled current theory does
> it better.
>
> hanson wrote:
>
> I wouldn't say that it is a waste of time and human'
> resources. Theories a essentially human tools to
> convey one generation's perception of nature to
> the next one: "Daddy's telling kiddo how things are"
> BUT make no mistake, and you are right, Yehi:
> All theories are crippled attempts to describe nature.
>
> Take care, my dear old haver,
> hanson
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Hanson my friend
you still didnt got my points:
you ddint understand
1
that without completely empty space
THERE CANNOT BE ANY MOVEMENT
is it so difficult to understand ??
2
if there are empty spaces
AND YOU DONT KNOW HOW MUCH
AND HOW BIG and where THEY ARE
YOU CANT MAKE ANY CALCULATION
FOR A SPECIFIC DENSITY OF AETHER -
*IN A SPECIFIC LOCATION!!*
so your theory based on a statistical
density (which i doubt even that
no to mention that it was never found and measured experimentally !!)
so
IS NOT GOOD FOR SPECIFIC CASES!!
you have too much unknowns
in your equations
iow
your equations are undefined
it is your problem not mine
ATB
Y.Porat
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rasterspace
nowadays say, seen in the uncertainty principle
of Heisenberg. but, Pascal did not know this, or
the concept of "partial pressures,"
when he experimentally found his Plenum.
scrolling ye palimpsest:
sound like the gist of it is that,
it was not "global" warming, in the sense
of an unpremeditated use of Ahrrenius' metaphor
of a glass house -- not at any particular lattitude,
alas.
that was a good conspiracy, as far as I got with it, and
it almost answers the question,
What is earth's largest conspiracy, by etymology?... however,
Three Mile Island is a total non-issue, just
as is Chernobyl, which Beloruss is repopulating,
after twenty years of media hype & demoralization
of its former inhabitants.
in other word, hormesis.
multiverse drove the author to suicide, apparently because
it was an incredibly parsimonious way to grok the Copanhagenschool
and its mysical reification of the math of probabilites,
a.k.a. Fuzzee Logeek ... and they would have rather that
it remain a mystery.
also, depends upon if universe is finite; eh?
I am not refuting it, just noting that
you got from a source that'll publish any God-am thing
-- Gnude Scientist --
as long as it safely does not court any real controversy
with the Standard Model (of what ever, "global" warming e.g.).
yeah, a silly spot in a God-am electronic device; or,
as in Young's two-pinhole experiment,
a bueatiful moire pattern.
Young totally "shot down" Newton's untheory of corpuscles,
and it would be completely buried, if it were not a part
of some sort of history -- other than that
of the Second Church of England, seculartarian.
Young, along with every one else's experiments,
up to that 100-year post-Newton interval, and
beyond til approx. 1:32pm Pacific Time.
rasterspace
about the uncertainy principle,
i'm not going to make you googol it -- and
i sure as heck will not!
hanson
"Y.Porat" <y.y....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
hanson wrote:
What is it that you are crying and railing about now?
You asked me:
Yehi ::: " how many kilograms of Aether are
Yehi ::: there in a cubic meter of space?
and I told you:
"It's H*hbar / (4/3 pi* R^3*c^2). It's equivalent to
a mass of 1.9*10^-151 kg/m^3, (a magnitude of
a power of negative hundred fifty-one)".
>
But then you come back and belly ache that the
theory is statistical and wrong and that according
to you, there must be somewhere a tiny space,
somwwhere, that is totally empty... hahahaha...
>
Now tell me, Yehi, who is ever going to know and
measure the difference between your "Nothing"
and the 1.9*10^-151 kg/m^3 sitting in an empty
space of your Nothing.... ???.... ahahahaha...
>
These are all Gedanken farts, of which, no matter
how many the whole universe contains, they will not
buy you a single cup of coffee... No matter whether
I understand you or not...***It doesn't matter, Yehi***
Take care, Yehi, you old haver,
don't whup yourself into a lather.
See, it even rhymes... ahahaha... ahahahanson
>
PS:
I am getting **off** this subject with you mow.
But here is a lady here whom you may answer
to with your empty space:
<http://tinyurl.com/Porat-Okina-asks-for-your-help>
>
mpc755
Enjoy your ignorance.
'Ether and the Theory of Relativity - Albert Einstein'
http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html
"Since according to our present conceptions the elementary particles
of matter are also, in their essence, nothing else than condensations
of the electromagnetic field"
The electromagnetic field is a state of aether.
Matter is condensations of aether.
DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' A.
EINSTEIN
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."
The mass of the body does diminish; however, the matter which no
longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists,
as aether.
Matter evaporates into aether.
As matter converts to aether it expands in three dimensional space.
The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring aether and
matter is energy.
Mass is conserved. Energy is conserved.
A change in state of that which has mass is energy.
Not only does Aether Displacement describe the relationship between
mass and energy it also describes what occurs physically in nature to
cause gravity and describes what occurs physically in nature in a
double slit experiment.
Aether has mass.
Aether is displaced by matter.
Aether is not at rest when displaced.
Displaced aether exerts force towards matter.
Force exerted towards matter by aether displaced by matter is gravity.
A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels a single path and enters
and exits a single slit. It is the associated aether displacement wave
which enters and exits multiple slits. The associated aether
displacement wave creates interference which alters the direction the
particle travels. Detecting the particle causes a loss of coherence
between the particle and its associated aether displacement wave and
there is no interference.
Aether Displacement is a unified theory.
Y.Porat
> the vacuum is only relative, as they would
> nowadays say, seen in the uncertainty principle
> of Heisenberg. but, Pascal did not know this, or
> the concept of "partial pressures,"
> when he experimentally found his Plenum.
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it is surprising to see how
such a simple logic a physical fact
ie
if there is no COMPLETELY
AGAIN - COMPLETELY --
empty space ---
---NO MOTION CAN BE DONE !!
a child should understand it
and Yet physicists cannot get it !!??
if there is even the most unknown entity
some where at empty space
IF THAT SOMETHING X ENTITY
WILL FILL IT COMPLETELY ..--
THAT X ENTITY WILL BE UNABLE TO MOVE !
NO PHYSICAL ENTITY CAN MOVE INTO ANOTHER THING LIKE ITSELF!!
it is basic logic of defining anything
including defining that x entity itself !!
if Pauli got a Nobel for his exclusion rule
it seems that i deserve** two* Nobles
even just for explaining my trivial above rule to so many
'intelligent ' people
for explaining my above rule
to so many people that could not see it-- themselves !!!
ATB
Y.Porat
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Y.Porat
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you get of --for 'respectful retreat ?? (:-)
we are on science
we ar e not on an
'come what come -by hook or by crook
'we are against Einstein'' ...
science is not about prejudicial political personal agenda ...
any way Hanson
we keep on honesty in science before politics ....
**and lets leave it** and remain friends
ATB
Y.Porat
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Byron Forbes
@v16g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>, y.y....@gmail.com says...
> 1
> that without completely empty space
> THERE CANNOT BE ANY MOVEMENT
> is it so difficult to understand ??
Consider this -
I have a 6 inch thick iron pole and I bend it into a circular shape
so I know have a 6 inch thick ring. I now take another such object that
is 1 inch thick, say, and shorter so that I can now bend it around the
other (like a loose ring on a finger) and arrange it like a handcuff and
snap it over the larger ring.
I can attach this handcuff to an arm concentric and co planer with
the larger ring so that the smaller ring is on the ring finger without
touching it and I can now swing the arm so that the small ring travels
around and over the large ring (perpendicular to it) without ever
touching it.
So then the small ring is like a construct of molecules and the
large ring, ever passing thru it, is like aether.
This means that the molecule is passing through a dense volume
(cylinder) of space without being slowed.
Y.Porat
> In article <274eb607-d388-4324-922b-4f88f1fb8fe6
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BTW
how old are you ?
i am abut 73
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you play chess with yourself !!
and refuse to see the complete situation and picture?
once you enter you rod no matter circular or straigth
you can put it inonwe certain location becuse ??
guess and tell me why ??
because the air in that location is repelled and nove to some other
place
now WAHT HAPPENED IN THAT
'SOME OTHER PLACE??
just supose that the air in that other place
'refuses to move to still another place
will your 'first bunch of air' will be able to replace
the second bunch of air ??
etc etc etc
any movement of a physical entity
is possible only if there is empty spAce
OF ANYTHING
again ** ANYTHING *
TO LET THAT ENTITY TO COME INSLEAD OF THAT MOVING OBJECT
DOES ONE NEED THE BE A GENIUS IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND IT ??
NOW SUPPOSE YOU SAY THAT THERE IS AETHER IN THAT PLACE tha the oblect
is moving:
inorder to let thart object move
your Aether must move to another place
now supose that in that other place aether
has no other place to move because all empty space
**is already filled with your Aether**
are you able to thing two or more steps ahead ??
or you need me to do it for you ??
or may be your addiction to your theory
drives you blind ??and uncapable of thionking
something against it??
let me tell you a secrete about how i make a theory:
first i allow my creative immagination go wild
as possible
step two
i change my first personality
and persent myself as the biggest opposer of myself! to look for any
slight hole in it
etc etc
so i recommend it to you as well
ATB
Y.Porat
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Byron Forbes
233095...@n11g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>, y.y....@gmail.com says...
> NOW SUPPOSE YOU SAY THAT THERE IS AETHER IN THAT PLACE tha the oblect
> is moving:
> inorder to let thart object move
> your Aether must move to another place
> now supose that in that other place aether
> has no other place to move because all empty space
> **is already filled with your Aether**
>
There is no interaction between the aether and matter and so there
is no need for aether displacement. Aether is not effected by the 5
forces of matter.
See my other post and my new 1st Law of Aether-Matter Interaction.
LOL.
mpc755
> In article <ad4b0692-8788-4b17-9ce4-
> 23309581c...@n11g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>, y.y.po...@gmail.com says...
>
> > NOW SUPPOSE YOU SAY THAT THERE IS AETHER IN THAT PLACE tha the oblect
> > is moving:
> > inorder to let thart object move
> > your Aether must move to another place
> > now supose that in that other place aether
> > has no other place to move because all empty space
> > **is already filled with your Aether**
>
> There is no interaction between the aether and matter and so there
> is no need for aether displacement. Aether is not effected by the 5
> forces of matter.
>
> See my other post and my new 1st Law of Aether-Matter Interaction.
> LOL.
Aether has mass.
rasterspace
in the sense that one cannot actually measure
any absolute vacuum & exclude "every last molecule"
within a box or magnetic cnfinement or what ever,
viz the uncertainty principle -- and
you don't appear to know about that, because
you are hellbent on your teeny-tiny, new unmath.
(mathematica is four subjects,
not mere calculations.)
rasterspace
with the advent of a reasonable comprehension
of "electromagnetism" by Weber et al
in the 19th cce. there's no vacuum. although
Pascal thought that it was absolute,
there, in the barometer.
mpc755
> therwe is no need for aether at all,
Then explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity.
Then explain what occurs physically in nature in a double slit
experiment.
Then explain the relationship between mass and energy.
You can't.
You simply insist on being ignorant because you are unable or
unwilling to understand what is postulated as dark matter is aether.
There is no such thing as dark matter traveling with matter. Matter
moves through the aether.
BURT
The time aether flow over light is as important as matterial time
flow.
Mitch Raemsch
rasterspace
could not have known much about aelectromagnetism,
period ... although it was certainly in the air,
through which electromagnetism seems
to propagate without much difficulty.
mpc755
> the people who came-up with aether,
> could not have known much about aelectromagnetism,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether
"Aether (mythology) originally was the personification of the "upper
sky", space and heaven, in Greek mythology."
I'm fairly confident the Greeks did not have a good understanding of
electromagnetism, not to say modern 'mainstream' physics does since it
seems to be in denial to understanding electromagnetism is a change in
state of the aether.
> period ... although it was certainly in the air,
> through which electromagnetism seems
> to propagate without much difficulty.
Physics had a better understanding of what occurs physically in nature
in the time of Maxwell and Michelson than it does today.
Quote from Albert A Michelson's lecture circa 1899.
http://home.netcom.com/~sbyers11/
"Suppose that an aether strain corresponds to an electric charge, an
aether displacement to the electric current..."
'Maxwell and Displacement Current'
http://www.math.colostate.edu/~yzhou/course/math750_fall2009/MaxwellN...
"Maxwell sought a theory based on the mechanical properties of a
medium surrounding electrical systems. Eventually this medium was to
be identified with the luminiferous ether."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether
"Luminiferous aether, in early physics considered to be the medium
through which light propagates"
The aether is, or behaves similar to, a frictionless superfluid.
What is postulated as dark matter is aether. There is no such thing as
dark matter traveling with matter. Matter moves through the aether.
Aether has mass.
Force exerted towards matter by aether displaced by matter is gravity.
A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.
Aether and matter have mass. As far as we know, there is no space, nor
any part of three dimensional space, devoid of mass.
A change in state of that which has mass is energy.
Aether Displacement is a unified theory.
rasterspace
of comprehension of electromagnetism, and
of the nature of the atoms by which it propagates,
including in "free space," in which there can
be no absolute vacuum, viz Heisenberg et al.
BURT
> On Feb 12, 12:45 pm, rasterspace <Space...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > the people who came-up with aether,
> > could not have known much about aelectromagnetism,
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether
>
> "Aether (mythology) originally was the personification of the "upper
> sky", space and heaven, in Greek mythology."
>
> I'm fairly confident the Greeks did not have a good understanding of
> electromagnetism, not to say modern 'mainstream' physics does since it
> seems to be in denial to understanding electromagnetism is a change in
> state of the aether.
>
> > period ... although it was certainly in the air,
> > through which electromagnetism seems
> > to propagate without much difficulty.
>
> Physics had a better understanding of what occurs physically in nature
> in the time of Maxwell and Michelson than it does today.
>
>
> "Suppose that an aether strain corresponds to an electric charge, an
> aether displacement to the electric current..."
>
> 'Maxwell and Displacement Current'http://www.math.colostate.edu/~yzhou/course/math750_fall2009/MaxwellN...
>
> "Maxwell sought a theory based on the mechanical properties of a
> medium surrounding electrical systems. Eventually this medium was to
> be identified with the luminiferous ether."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether
>
> "Luminiferous aether, in early physics considered to be the medium
> through which light propagates"
>
> The aether is, or behaves similar to, a frictionless superfluid.
>
> What is postulated as dark matter is aether. There is no such thing as
> dark matter traveling with matter. Matter moves through the aether.
> Aether has mass.
>
> Force exerted towards matter by aether displaced by matter is gravity.
>
> A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.
>
> Aether and matter have mass. As far as we know, there is no space, nor
> any part of three dimensional space, devoid of mass.
>
> A change in state of that which has mass is energy.
>
> Aether Displacement is a unified theory.
Luminiferous aether is flow over light waves as they flow through
dimension and its aether.
If Einstein would have been more objective he would have seen that all
theories are incomplete.
You may have a Unified theory but completion hasn't happened. It is
unreasonable to believe it
could when science is only 400 years old. But some people will retain
hubris and their lack objectivity.
How can wrong science ego feel right without Unification and
completion and all those neat
things Einstein introduced us to?
Mitch Raemsch
Salmon Egg
<d1865c5e-f488-4b7b...@q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
rasterspace <Spac...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I am beginning to think that aether is to electromagnetism as
homeopathic remedies are to pharmacology.
Bill
--
An old man would be better off never having been born.
mpc755
What is postulated as dark matter is aether. There is no such thing as
dark matter traveling with matter. Matter moves through the aether.
Aether has mass. If you choose to remain ignorant of understanding
aether has mass then that is your choice.
If you choose to remain ignorant to understanding Aether Displacement
explains why the Milky Way's displaced aether is the shape of a
squished beach ball then that is your choice.
'Dark Halo Around Our Galaxy Looks Like Squished Beach Ball'
http://www.space.com/7746-dark-halo-galaxy-squished-beach-ball.html
"Dark matter seems to shroud the remaining visible matter in giant
spheres called haloes."
The Milky Way's halo is displaced aether.
"But the new study found that the Milky Way's halo isn't exactly
spherical, but squished. In fact, its beach-ball form is flattened in
a surprising direction — perpendicular to the galaxy's visible,
pancake-shaped spiral disk."
All of the aether displaced by the matter exerts force towards the
matter. The force exerted towards the matter by the aether displaced
perpendicular to the plane of the galaxy's spiral disk offset. It is
the aether which is displaced outward relative to the plane of the
spiral disk which exerts force towards the center of the galaxy. This
forces the matter closer together which results in the displaced
aether looking like a squished beach ball.
If you choose to remain ignorant to understanding what occurs
physically in nature in a double slit experiment then that is your
choice.
In a double slit experiment the particle travels a single path and
enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated aether
displacement wave which enters and exits multiple slits. The aether
displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits. It is
this interference which alters the direction the particle travels.
Detecting the particle causes a loss of coherence between the particle
and its associated aether displacement wave and there is no
interference.
If you choose to remain ignorant to understanding what occurs
physically in nature to cause gravity then that is your choice.
Aether has mass.
Aether is displaced by matter.
Aether is not at rest when displaced.
Displaced aether exerts force towards matter.
mpc755
Please stop responding to my posts.
mpc755
> In article
> <d1865c5e-f488-4b7b-a483-79b2f4cf7...@q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
>
> rasterspace <Space...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > these quotes are only indicative of a lack
> > of comprehension of electromagnetism, and
> > of the nature of the atoms by which it propagates,
> > including in "free space," in which there can
> > be no absolute vacuum, viz Heisenberg et al.
>
> I am beginning to think that aether is to electromagnetism as
> homeopathic remedies are to pharmacology.
>
> Bill
>
> --
> An old man would be better off never having been born.
What is postulated as dark matter is aether. There is no such thing as
dark matter traveling with matter. Matter moves through the aether.
Aether has mass. If you choose to remain ignorant of understanding
aether has mass then that is your choice.
If you choose to remain ignorant to understanding Aether Displacement
explains why the Milky Way's displaced aether is the shape of a
squished beach ball then that is your choice.
'Dark Halo Around Our Galaxy Looks Like Squished Beach Ball'
http://www.space.com/7746-dark-halo-galaxy-squished-beach-ball.html
"Dark matter seems to shroud the remaining visible matter in giant
spheres called haloes."
The Milky Way's halo is displaced aether.
"But the new study found that the Milky Way's halo isn't exactly
spherical, but squished. In fact, its beach-ball form is flattened in
a surprising direction — perpendicular to the galaxy's visible,
pancake-shaped spiral disk."
All of the aether displaced by the matter exerts force towards the
matter. The force exerted towards the matter by the aether displaced
perpendicular to the plane of the galaxy's spiral disk offset. It is
the aether which is displaced outward relative to the plane of the
spiral disk which exerts force towards the center of the galaxy. This
forces the matter closer together which results in the displaced
aether looking like a squished beach ball.
If you choose to remain ignorant to understanding what occurs
physically in nature in a double slit experiment then that is your
choice.
In a double slit experiment the particle travels a single path and
enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated aether
displacement wave which enters and exits multiple slits. The aether
displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits. It is
this interference which alters the direction the particle travels.
Detecting the particle causes a loss of coherence between the particle
and its associated aether displacement wave and there is no
interference.
If you choose to remain ignorant to understanding what occurs
physically in nature to cause gravity then that is your choice.
Aether has mass.
Aether is displaced by matter.
Aether is not at rest when displaced.
Displaced aether exerts force towards matter.
rasterspace
as for homeopathy, the principle is perfectly valid, and
there is quite a lot of science to support it, viz:
http://larouchepub.com/other/2011/3806non_particle_view_life.html
mpc755
It is only vague due to your insistence on remaining ignorant.
'Offset between dark matter and ordinary matter: evidence from a
sample of 38 lensing clusters of galaxies'
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111...6739.x/abstract
"We compile a sample of 38 galaxy clusters which have both X-ray and
strong lensing observations, and study for each cluster the projected
offset between the dominant component of baryonic matter centre
(measured by X-rays) and the gravitational centre (measured by strong
lensing). Among the total sample, 45 per cent clusters have offsets
>10 arcsec. The >10 arcsec separations are significant, considering
the arcsecond precision in the measurement of the lensing/X-ray
centres. This suggests that it might be a common phenomenon in
unrelaxed galaxy clusters that gravitational field is separated
spatially from the dominant component of baryonic matter. It also has
consequences for lensing models of unrelaxed clusters since the gas
mass distribution may differ from the dark matter distribution and
give perturbations to the modelling. Such offsets can be used as a
statistical tool for comparison with the results of Lambda cold dark
matter (ËCDM) simulations and to test the modified dynamics."
The offset is due to matter moving through the aether. What is
postulated as dark matter is aether. Dark matter does not travel with
matter. Matter moves through the aether. Aether has mass.
'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory
Louis de BROGLIE'
http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf
(link has been down for a while)
"This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present
theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave
where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite
natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always
be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is
located."
de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical
moving particle having an associated physical wave. The particle
occupies a very small region of the wave.
"I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the
wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case
of an external field acting on the particle."
The external field acting on the particle is the aether.
"I think that when this interpretation is further elaborated,
extended, and eventually modified in some of its aspects, it will lead
to a better understanding of the true coexistence of waves and
particles about which actual Quantum mechanics only gives statistical
information, often correct, but in my opinion incomplete."
The following further elaborates, extends, and modifies in some of its
aspects de Broglie's correct understanding of wave-particle duality.
The galaxy clusters in the following article are not traveling with
dark matter. The galaxy clusters are moving through the aether. The
galaxy clusters displace aether.
'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html
"Astronomers using NASA's Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark mater, which is
somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
water."
The 'pond' consists of aether.
The moving 'particles' are the galaxy clusters.
The 'ripple' is an aether displacement wave.
The above is physical evidence of a moving 'particle' having an
associated aether displacement wave.
In a double slit experiment the particle travels a single path and
enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated aether
displacement wave which enters and exits multiple slits. The aether
displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits. It is
this interference which alters the direction the particle travels.
Detecting the particle causes a loss of coherence between the particle
and its associated aether displacement wave and there is no
interference.
Einstein understood Aether Displacement.
Einstein's 'First Paper'
http://www.worldscibooks.com/etextbook/4454/4454_chap1.pdf
"The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the
elastic forces which cause [its] propagation, and inversely
proportional to the mass of the aether moved by these forces."
... and inversely proportional to the mass of the aether displaced by
these forces.
Einstein removed from the ether of Lorentz its immobility.
'Ether and the Theory of Relativity - Albert Einstein'
http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html
"It may be added that the whole change in the conception of the ether
which the special theory of relativity brought about, consisted in
taking away from the ether its last mechanical quality, namely, its
immobility."
Einstein's definition of motion as applied to the ether is defined
throughout the article as the ether does not consist of individual
particles which can be separately tracked through time.
<begin quotes>
"Think of waves on the surface of water. Here we can describe two
entirely different things. Either we may observe how the undulatory
surface forming the boundary between water and air alters in the
course of time; or else-with the help of small floats, for instance we
can observe how the position of the separate particles of water alters
in the course of time. If the existence of such floats for tracking
the motion of the particles of a fluid were a fundamental
impossibility in physics - if, in fact nothing else whatever were
observable than the shape of the space occupied by the water as it
varies in time, we should have no ground for the assumption that water
consists of movable particles. But all the same we could characterise
it as a medium."
"There may be supposed to be extended physical objects to which the
idea of motion cannot be applied. They may not be thought of as
consisting of particles which allow themselves to be separately
tracked through time."
"The special theory of relativity forbids us to assume the ether to
consist of particles observable through time, but the hypothesis of
ether in itself is not in conflict with the special theory of
relativity."
"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is
unthinkable;...But this ether may not be thought of as endowed with
the quality characteristic of ponderable media, as consisting of parts
which may be tracked through time. The idea of motion may not be
applied to it."
<end quotes>
If you replace water with ether you will understand Einstein's concept
of ether:
if, in fact nothing else whatever were observable than the shape of
the space occupied by the [ether] as it varies in time, we should have
no ground for the assumption that [ether] consists of movable
particles. But all the same we could characterise it as a medium.
What Einstein is referring to throughout the article is the aether's
state of displacement.
"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ...
disregarding the causes which condition its state."
The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
aether's state of displacement. The cause which conditions its state
is its displacement by matter.
Aether Displacement explains why the shape of the Milky Way's 'dark
matter' is in the shape of a squished beach ball.
'Dark Halo Around Our Galaxy Looks Like Squished Beach Ball'
http://www.space.com/7746-dark-halo-galaxy-squished-beach-ball.html
"Dark matter seems to shroud the remaining visible matter in giant
spheres called haloes."
The Milky Way's halo is displaced aether.
"But the new study found that the Milky Way's halo isn't exactly
spherical, but squished. In fact, its beach-ball form is flattened in
a surprising direction — perpendicular to the galaxy's visible,
pancake-shaped spiral disk."
All of the aether displaced by the matter exerts force towards the
matter. The force exerted towards the matter by the aether displaced
perpendicular to the plane of the galaxy's spiral disk offset. It is
the aether which is displaced outward relative to the plane of the
spiral disk which exerts force towards the center of the galaxy. This
forces the matter closer together which results in the displaced
aether looking like a squished beach ball.
Aether has mass.
Aether is displaced by matter.
Displaced aether is not at rest.
Displaced aether exerts force towards matter.
Force exerted towards matter by aether displaced by matter is gravity.
'Ether and the Theory of Relativity - Albert Einstein'
http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html
"Since according to our present conceptions the elementary particles
of matter are also, in their essence, nothing else than condensations
of the electromagnetic field"
The electromagnetic field is a state of aether.
Matter is condensations of aether.
DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' A.
EINSTEIN
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."
The mass of the body does diminish; however, the matter which no
longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists,
as aether.
Matter evaporates into aether.
As matter converts to aether it expands in three dimensional space.
The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring aether and
matter is energy.
Mass is conserved. Energy is conserved.
A change in state of that which has mass is energy.
holog
> Aether has mass.
what is your definition of mass?
holog
mpc755
Please stop responding to my posts.
holog
are YOU sure?
a closed mind is of no use
holog
mpc755
I have an open mind. I realize you are not interested in having, or
attempting, a conversation.
holog
electromagnetism is a most curious event , it seems to be the
underlying construct of nature.
holog
Salmon Egg
<0a00ec4d-e7b5-495d...@y35g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
rasterspace <Spac...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Consider yourself calibrated.
Salmon Egg
<ce838b68-089b-41f1...@y26g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
holog <ho...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Only of chemistry, biology, physics, and other such crap. Ebven then,
only if you throw in ridiculous quantizations.
rasterspace
I'll learn how to killfile, because you are about the most boring
... which is to say,
you don't actually try to participate in an exchange
of ideas, or whatever.
> read more »
mpc755
How am I supposed to participate in an exchange of ideas with you when
you are incapable of understanding dark matter is aether? How am I
supposed to participate in an exchange of ideas with your when you are
incapable of understanding dark matter does not travel with matter;
matter moves through the aether?
How am I supposed to participate in an exchange of ideas with you when
you are incapable of understanding aether has mass?
How am I supposed to participate in an exchange of ideas with you when
you insist on believing in magic instead of understanding what occurs
physically in nature?
How am I supposed to participate in an exchange of ideas with you when
you are unable or unwilling to understand the following?
How am I supposed to participate in an exchange of ideas with you when
you are incapable of understanding the following?
rasterspace
since this is my last reply to you, I can say what,
I really mean. I mean,
there is no apparent connection between your sarcastic
prefatory nano-essay, and the abstracts that you cut, and
paste, and other things ... doctor Readmore.
> read more »
mpc755
I am simply explaining to you that what is presently postulated as
dark matter is aether. I am simply explaining to you that there is no
such thing as dark matter which travels with matter. I am simply
explaining to you matter moves through the aether. I am simply
explaining to you aether has mass.
If you do not want to understand what occurs physically in nature then
that is your choice.
Aether has mass.
Aether is displaced by matter.
Aether is not at rest when displaced.
Displaced aether exerts force towards matter.
Force exerted towards matter by aether displaced by matter is gravity.
The galaxy clusters in the following article are not traveling with
dark matter. The galaxy clusters in the following article are moving
through the aether. The galaxy clusters displace the aether.
'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html
"Astronomers using NASA's Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark mater, which is
somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
water."
The 'pond' consists of aether.
The moving 'particles' are the galaxy clusters.
The 'ripple' is an aether displacement wave.
The above is physical evidence of a moving 'particle' having an
associated aether displacement wave.
Aether displacement explains why the Milky Way's 'dark matter' is in
rasterspace
mpc755
> yeah; goood for me & good for you.
>
> > aether looking like a squished beach ball.
Do you now understand what is postulated as dark matter is aether;
that there is no such thing as dark matter traveling with matter? Do
you now understand matter moves through the aether; aether has mass;
and aether is displaced by matter?
With the simple understanding aether has mass the following is self-
evident:
Aether is displaced by matter.
Aether is not at rest when displaced.
Displaced aether exerts force towards matter.
Force exerted towards matter by aether displaced by matter is gravity.
In a double slit experiment the moving particle has an associated
aether displacement wave. The particle travels a single path and
enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated aether
displacement wave which enters and exits multiple slits. The aether
displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits. When
the particle exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered
by this interference. Detecting the particle causes there to be a loss
of coherence between the particle and the associated aether
displacement wave and there is no interference.
Once you understand the above we can discuss the relationship between
mass and energy.
rasterspace
other than a way to reifiy gravitational theories
of galactic motion & black holes etc., when
universe is mostly "in the nines" thought to be plasmic.
mpc755
What is postulated as dark matter is aether.
Aether has mass.
Aether is displaced by matter.
Aether is not at rest when displaced.
Displaced aether exerts force towards matter.
Force exerted towards matter by aether displaced by matter is
gravity.
Aether Displacement explains what occurs physically in nature to cause
gravity.
Once you understand the above and understand matter/plasma is
condensations of aether you have a correct base upon which to build a
plasma theory.
rasterspace
I tap my heels together three times & make it so,
Number Two!
mpc755
> yeah, that certaintly answers thematter. now,
> I tap my heels together three times & make it so,
> Number Two!
>
Matter/plasma and aether are different states of the same material.