Historic Incompetence: Trump Agrees to Summit with Kim Without Even Telling His Sec of State

[Jonathan]

To do such a thing without telling anyone
at all in his administration first, without
seeking any advice whatsoever, is the
penultimate example of shear ignorance,
irresponsibility and arrogance.

We can easily see what is going to happen.
Trump is desperate for a win, of any kind.

So Trump will give away the farm and only
receive a trivial concession from Kim, while
crowing like a rooster what a great job
he did. Just like with his China visit.

Or, Trump will call Kim all sorts of nasty
names, Kim will walk away and Trump will
be forced to...attack N Korea to save face.

Either way it'll be a fucking nightmare of
a disaster for America.

But Trump doesn't care about that, he cares
about making himself look good enough to
make everyone forget about his now countless
scandals.

Gotta hand it to Trump though, he's found
a way around the law and ethics. By breaking
so many laws and rules of ethics in such
a short time no one could possible investigate
and prosecute even a fraction of them.








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the sun; the moon; and the truth. ‬

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[Lee]

Jonathan wrote:

>
> To do such a thing without telling anyone
> at all in his administration first, without
> seeking any advice whatsoever, is the
> penultimate example of shear ignorance,
> irresponsibility and arrogance.

"I am the only one who matters" Trump
actually believes he knows more than everyone
about everything, that only his opinion matters,
and that he is always right.

Such men always destroyed by their own
arrogance. The tragedy is those innocents
who are destroyed along with them.

[Fred J. McCall]

Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Fri, 9 Mar 2018 22:11:16
-0500:

>
>To do such a thing without telling anyone
>at all in his administration first, without
>seeking any advice whatsoever, is the
>penultimate example of shear ignorance,
>irresponsibility and arrogance.
>

You complain because he's antagonizing the NORKS. You complain when
he agrees to not do that and actually talk to them. The Secretary of
State works for the President, not the other way around. Don't look
now but your TDS is showing (again).

<snip Jonthy fantasy>


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only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine

[ZZyXX]

following trumps policy of changing his mind on any subject at least
three times and then capping it with some sort of denial, I somehow
doubt he will meet Kim, unless it's to gather intelligence on how to run
a country

[a425couple]

On 3/9/2018 7:11 PM, Jonathan wrote:

> We can easily see what is going to happen.
> Trump is desperate for a win, of any kind.
> So Trump will give away the farm and only
> receive a trivial concession from Kim, while
> crowing like a rooster what a great job
> he did. Just like with his China visit.

And how can that be any worse than POTUS Obama did?

[Siri Cruise]

In article <p82b6...@news7.newsguy.com>, a425couple <a425c...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Shall I compare Don to a rotting donkey carcass?
Let me count the ways.

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[G]

a425couple wrote

A typical case of Obama derangement syndrome. Rightists always pivot to
Obama or Hillary when they have no way to defend Trump. It's the first
sign of defeat.

[Jonathan]

On 3/10/2018 1:52 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
> Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Fri, 9 Mar 2018 22:11:16
> -0500:
>
>>
>> To do such a thing without telling anyone
>> at all in his administration first, without
>> seeking any advice whatsoever, is the
>> penultimate example of shear ignorance,
>> irresponsibility and arrogance.
>>
>
> You complain because he's antagonizing the NORKS. You complain when
> he agrees to not do that and actually talk to them. The Secretary of
> State works for the President, not the other way around.

Ya, who needs the State Dept with diplomacy, who
needs the FBI with law enforcement, who needs
the Pentagon with war plans.

Trump, the stable genius, can take care of it all
by his lonesome, and without any advice at all
oh except for Judge Jeanine and Jared.

You're hero is running America into the ground Fred.

Don't look
> now but your TDS is showing (again).
>
> <snip Jonthy fantasy>
>
>


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[Jonathan]

Trump just said N Korea wants to denuclearize.
And fairies wear boots~

He's desperate for a win to deflect from the
investigations. Hope Hicks, his closest confidant
resigns on Feb 28th, the next day Trump launches
his trade war.

[ZZyXX]

[george152]

Jonathon conveniently 'forgets' that no other US president has forced
the little fatty with the weird haircut to the table...

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[Fred J. McCall]

G <georg...@yahoo.com> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 05:41:12 -0000
(UTC):

Trump hardly needs to be 'defended' from the delusional content of
Jonthy's ravings. Given that there is not a single fact anywhere in
Jonathan's masturbatory imaginings, 'defense' is neither necessary nor
possible (other than by getting Jonathan into treatment for his mental
issues).

[Fred J. McCall]

Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 08:44:05
-0400:

>On 3/10/2018 1:52 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Fri, 9 Mar 2018 22:11:16
>> -0500:
>>
>>>
>>> To do such a thing without telling anyone
>>> at all in his administration first, without
>>> seeking any advice whatsoever, is the
>>> penultimate example of shear ignorance,
>>> irresponsibility and arrogance.
>>>
>>
>> You complain because he's antagonizing the NORKS. You complain when
>> he agrees to not do that and actually talk to them. The Secretary of
>> State works for the President, not the other way around.
>>
>
>Ya, who needs the State Dept with diplomacy, who
>needs the FBI with law enforcement, who needs
>the Pentagon with war plans.
>

Ask yourself how the Berlin Wall came down, Jonthy. Hint: It wasn't
the US State Department.

>
>You're hero is running America into the ground Fred.
>

Yeah, sure, Jonthy. You know, you'd think if Trump was my 'hero' I'd
have voted for him. I didn't. As for "running America into the
ground", that's you TDS ANTIFA fuckers, not Trump.

[Fred J. McCall]

Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 09:00:32
-0400:

>
>Trump just said N Korea wants to denuclearize.
>And fairies wear boots~
>

Well, you probably do.

>
>He's desperate for a win ...
>

So you keep saying, based on nothing other than your masturbatory
fantasies.

>
>... to deflect from the
>investigations. Hope Hicks, his closest confidant ...
>

Nope. She wasn't. And so far the Mueller fishing expedition has come
nowhere near Trump, the Russians, and only peripherally to election
interference.

>
>... resigns on Feb 28th, the next day Trump launches
>his trade war.
>

Only if 'day' approximates 'week'.

As usual, Jonthy plays fast a loose with the few facts he tries to
drag kicking and screaming into his TDS tirades.

[Rudy Canoza]

On 3/11/2018 12:49 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
> Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 08:44:05
> -0400:
>
>> On 3/10/2018 1:52 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>> Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Fri, 9 Mar 2018 22:11:16
>>> -0500:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> To do such a thing without telling anyone
>>>> at all in his administration first, without
>>>> seeking any advice whatsoever, is the
>>>> penultimate example of shear ignorance,
>>>> irresponsibility and arrogance.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You complain because he's antagonizing the NORKS. You complain when
>>> he agrees to not do that and actually talk to them. The Secretary of
>>> State works for the President, not the other way around.
>>>
>>
>> Ya, who needs the State Dept with diplomacy, who
>> needs the FBI with law enforcement, who needs
>> the Pentagon with war plans.
>>
>
> Ask yourself how the Berlin Wall came down, Jonthy. Hint: It wasn't
> the US State Department.
>
>>
>> You're hero is running America into the ground Fred.
>>
>
> Yeah, sure, Jonthy. You know, you'd think if Trump was my 'hero' I'd
> have voted for him. I didn't.

Yeah, sure you didn't, Fergie.

[Jonathan]

On 3/11/2018 3:49 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
> Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 08:44:05
> -0400:
>
>> On 3/10/2018 1:52 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>> Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Fri, 9 Mar 2018 22:11:16
>>> -0500:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> To do such a thing without telling anyone
>>>> at all in his administration first, without
>>>> seeking any advice whatsoever, is the
>>>> penultimate example of shear ignorance,
>>>> irresponsibility and arrogance.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You complain because he's antagonizing the NORKS. You complain when
>>> he agrees to not do that and actually talk to them. The Secretary of
>>> State works for the President, not the other way around.
>>>
>>
>> Ya, who needs the State Dept with diplomacy, who
>> needs the FBI with law enforcement, who needs
>> the Pentagon with war plans.
>>
>
> Ask yourself how the Berlin Wall came down, Jonthy. Hint: It wasn't
> the US State Department.
>

Donald Trump is no Ronald Reagan. But I'm not surprised
you think so.

And if Trump agrees to a deal with N Korea without
checking with his staff first? Do you think Reagan
would do such a thing?

>>
>> You're hero is running America into the ground Fred.
>>
>
> Yeah, sure, Jonthy. You know, you'd think if Trump was my 'hero' I'd
> have voted for him. I didn't.

You support Trump like Trump supports Putin, by
only saying positive things about him while
at the same time saying he's a bad man.

That's called, and I'm putting it nicely, hypocrisy.

You make your feelings clear about Trump in many
ways and for you to claim otherwise is just plain
being dishonest.

But lying is Trump's middle name, so his followers
believe lying is a good thing too.

As for "running America into the
> ground", that's you TDS ANTIFA fuckers, not Trump.
>
>

No one heard of ANTIFA, the anti fascist group, before
Trump and his neo-fascist agenda you so love and admire
came into town.

[Fred J. McCall]

Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 13:00:23
-0700:

I didn't see any difference between the two candidates other than some
showmanship and a tiny penis, so no, I didn't. But I guess I'm not
surprised that you choose to live in your own delusional reality.

[Jonathan]

On 3/11/2018 3:58 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
> Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 09:00:32
> -0400:
>
>>
>> Trump just said N Korea wants to denuclearize.
>> And fairies wear boots~
>>
>
> Well, you probably do.
>
>>
>> He's desperate for a win ...
>>
>
> So you keep saying, based on nothing other than your masturbatory
> fantasies.
>

He says he trusts Kim, that's just plain an act
of desperation, if not shear ignorance.


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account
@realDonaldTrump
Mar 10

North Korea has not conducted a Missile Test since
November 28, 2017 and has promised not to do so
through our meetings. I believe they will honor
that commitment!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/972542173030879233

>>
>> ... to deflect from the
>> investigations. Hope Hicks, his closest confidant ...
>>
>
> Nope. She wasn't. And so far the Mueller fishing expedition has come
> nowhere near Trump, the Russians, and only peripherally to election
> interference.
>

I didn't realize you have the Mueller report, care to share
his findings with the world?

>>
>> ... resigns on Feb 28th, the next day Trump launches
>> his trade war.
>>
>
> Only if 'day' approximates 'week'.
>

Hope Hicks resigns from White House
BY JORDAN FABIAN AND AVERY ANAPOL -
02/28/18 04:31 PM EST
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376108-hope-hicks-resigns-from-white-house



Trump announces steel and aluminum tariffs Thursday over
objections from advisers and Republicans
By David J. Lynch and Damian Paletta
March 1
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/03/01/white-house-planning-major-announcement-thursday-on-steel-and-aluminum-imports/?utm_term=.7ec7d9dfa358

> As usual, Jonthy plays fast a loose with the few facts he tries to
> drag kicking and screaming into his TDS tirades.
>
>


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[Jonathan]

On 3/11/2018 3:30 PM, george152 wrote:
> On 3/11/2018 5:35 PM, a425couple wrote:
>> On 3/9/2018 7:11 PM, Jonathan wrote:
>>
>>> We can easily see what is going to happen.
>>> Trump is desperate for a win, of any kind.
>>> So Trump will give away the farm and only
>>> receive a trivial concession from Kim, while
>>> crowing like a rooster what a great job
>>> he did. Just like with his China visit.
>>
>> And how can that be any worse than POTUS Obama did?
>
> Jonathon conveniently 'forgets' that no other US president has forced
> the little fatty with the weird haircut to the table...
>

N Korea has been trying to get a face to face with
America for decades, Trump is the first President
to agree without preconditions.

That's a concession by Trump, a big one. He's
legitimized Kim and given him the world stage
and standing he covets.

If Kim walks away, he wins. Trump is so desperate
for a win, not to mention grossly incompetent, he'll
give away the farm or get us into the biggest war
since 1950.

A war that will cause a world wide depression and
cost us all our homes and savings, like George W
did as he left office.

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[Rudy Canoza]

Sure thing, Fergie. That's why you reflexively defend everything the
vulgar blowhard says and does.

You're a Trumpswab, Fergie. Wear it.

[Siri Cruise]

In article <so1bad1v55n7v8mfq...@4ax.com>,

Fred J. McCall <fjmc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ask yourself how the Berlin Wall came down, Jonthy. Hint: It wasn't
> the US State Department.

The State Department helped keep the peace between its erection and collapse.

[Fred J. McCall]

Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 19:34:27
-0400:

>On 3/11/2018 3:49 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 08:44:05
>> -0400:
>>
>>> On 3/10/2018 1:52 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>> Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Fri, 9 Mar 2018 22:11:16
>>>> -0500:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To do such a thing without telling anyone
>>>>> at all in his administration first, without
>>>>> seeking any advice whatsoever, is the
>>>>> penultimate example of shear ignorance,
>>>>> irresponsibility and arrogance.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You complain because he's antagonizing the NORKS. You complain when
>>>> he agrees to not do that and actually talk to them. The Secretary of
>>>> State works for the President, not the other way around.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ya, who needs the State Dept with diplomacy, who
>>> needs the FBI with law enforcement, who needs
>>> the Pentagon with war plans.
>>>
>>
>> Ask yourself how the Berlin Wall came down, Jonthy. Hint: It wasn't
>> the US State Department.
>>
>
>Donald Trump is no Ronald Reagan. But I'm not surprised
>you think so.
>

Where did I say I thought he was, Jonathan? You know, you'd sound at
least a little more sane if you only responded to things that actually
occurred. I merely offered a counter-example to your raving about
"who needs the State Department", as if everyone did.

>
>And if Trump agrees to a deal with N Korea without
>checking with his staff first? Do you think Reagan
>would do such a thing?
>

You might want to look at some of the meetings with the Russians over
nuclear arms that Reagan attended, Jonathan.

>
>>
>>>
>>> You're hero is running America into the ground Fred.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, sure, Jonthy. You know, you'd think if Trump was my 'hero' I'd
>> have voted for him. I didn't.
>>
>
>You support Trump like Trump supports Putin, by
>only saying positive things about him while
>at the same time saying he's a bad man.
>

See my advice above about only responding to things that actually
occurred, Jonathan.

>
>That's called, and I'm putting it nicely, hypocrisy.
>

That's called, and I'm putting it accurately, delusional.

>
>You make your feelings clear about Trump in many
>ways and for you to claim otherwise is just plain
>being dishonest.
>

Again, see my advice above about only responding to things that
actually occurred, Jonathan.

>
>But lying is Trump's middle name, so his followers
>believe lying is a good thing too.
>

So you're a follower of Trump now?

>
>>
>>As for "running America into the
>> ground", that's you TDS ANTIFA fuckers, not Trump.
>>
>
>No one heard of ANTIFA, the anti fascist group, before

>Trump ...
>

Because the inmates were running the asylum. Trump won the election
and all you dipshits were apparently permanently deranged.

>
>... and his neo-fascist agenda you so love and admire
>came into town.
>

Liar.


--
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What you do
When it counts.

[Fred J. McCall]

Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 19:49:38
-0400:

>On 3/11/2018 3:58 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 09:00:32
>> -0400:
>>
>>>
>>> Trump just said N Korea wants to denuclearize.
>>> And fairies wear boots~
>>>
>>
>> Well, you probably do.
>>
>>>
>>> He's desperate for a win ...
>>>
>>
>> So you keep saying, based on nothing other than your masturbatory
>> fantasies.
>>
>
>He says he trusts Kim, that's just plain an act
>of desperation, if not shear ignorance.
>

That's not what he said. It's nice of you to include your 'proof' so
that it's obvious to anyone not deranged that that is not what he
said.

>
>Donald J. Trump
>?Verified account

> @realDonaldTrump
> Mar 10
>
>North Korea has not conducted a Missile Test since
>November 28, 2017 and has promised not to do so
>through our meetings. I believe they will honor
>that commitment!
>https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/972542173030879233
>

I think they probably will, too. Not because I trust them but because
they are playing a game.

>
>>
>>>
>>> ... to deflect from the
>>> investigations. Hope Hicks, his closest confidant ...
>>>
>>
>> Nope. She wasn't. And so far the Mueller fishing expedition has come
>> nowhere near Trump, the Russians, and only peripherally to election
>> interference.
>>
>
>I didn't realize you have the Mueller report, care to share
>his findings with the world?
>

You really don't follow the news, do you? Mueller's latest fish?
Investigating *UAE* attempts to 'influence the US government'.

>
>>
>>>
>>> ... resigns on Feb 28th, the next day Trump launches
>>> his trade war.
>>>
>>
>> Only if 'day' approximates 'week'.
>>
>
>Hope Hicks resigns from White House
>BY JORDAN FABIAN AND AVERY ANAPOL -
>02/28/18 04:31 PM EST
>http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376108-hope-hicks-resigns-from-white-house
>
>Trump announces steel and aluminum tariffs Thursday over
>objections from advisers and Republicans
>By David J. Lynch and Damian Paletta
>March 1
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/03/01/white-house-planning-major-announcement-thursday-on-steel-and-aluminum-imports/?utm_term=.7ec7d9dfa358
>

Nope. 'Planning an announcement' is not an announcement. Tariffs
weren't authorized until 8 March. Are you really stupid enough to
believe that Trump just pulled this out of his ass overnight? Well,
perhaps YOU are but it's an idea that they've been discussing for over
a year.

>
>>
>> As usual, Jonthy plays fast a loose with the few facts he tries to
>> drag kicking and screaming into his TDS tirades.
>>
>

As I said...


--
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
-- Mark Twain

[Fred J. McCall]

Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 19:54:02
-0400:

>On 3/11/2018 3:30 PM, george152 wrote:
>> On 3/11/2018 5:35 PM, a425couple wrote:
>>> On 3/9/2018 7:11 PM, Jonathan wrote:
>>>
>>>> We can easily see what is going to happen.
>>>> Trump is desperate for a win, of any kind.
>>>> So Trump will give away the farm and only
>>>> receive a trivial concession from Kim, while
>>>> crowing like a rooster what a great job
>>>> he did. Just like with his China visit.
>>>
>>> And how can that be any worse than POTUS Obama did?
>>
>> Jonathon conveniently 'forgets' that no other US president has forced
>> the little fatty with the weird haircut to the table...
>>
>
>N Korea has been trying to get a face to face with
>America for decades, Trump is the first President
>to agree without preconditions.
>

Yes, that's because Trump is the first President to be OFFERED a
meeting without preconditions that the US must meet.

<Jonathan Delusional Discourse Dumped>

[Fred J. McCall]

Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 17:58:38
-0700:

No, but the preceding is why you're a liar.

>
>You're a Trumpswab, Fergie. Wear it.
>

Looks like it may be time to clean out the waxy buildup again...

[Fred J. McCall]

Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 18:16:44
-0800:

>In article <so1bad1v55n7v8mfq...@4ax.com>,
> Fred J. McCall <fjmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ask yourself how the Berlin Wall came down, Jonthy. Hint: It wasn't
>> the US State Department.
>
>The State Department helped keep the peace between its erection and collapse.
>

Well, not so much. And it didn't 'collapse'. It was torn down. Does
the phrase "Mr Gorbachov, tear down this wall" ring any bells for you?


--
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territory."
--G. Behn

[Rudy Canoza]

Sorry, Fergie, but it's *YES, but* with you.

[Governor Swill]

On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 12:49:08 -0700, Fred J. McCall
<fjmc...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 08:44:05
>-0400:
>
>>On 3/10/2018 1:52 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>> Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Fri, 9 Mar 2018 22:11:16
>>> -0500:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> To do such a thing without telling anyone
>>>> at all in his administration first, without
>>>> seeking any advice whatsoever, is the
>>>> penultimate example of shear ignorance,
>>>> irresponsibility and arrogance.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You complain because he's antagonizing the NORKS. You complain when
>>> he agrees to not do that and actually talk to them. The Secretary of
>>> State works for the President, not the other way around.
>>>
>>
>>Ya, who needs the State Dept with diplomacy, who
>>needs the FBI with law enforcement, who needs
>>the Pentagon with war plans.
>>
>
>Ask yourself how the Berlin Wall came down, Jonthy. Hint: It wasn't
>the US State Department.

Nope. Was forty some years of Democrats in Congress.

>>You're hero is running America into the ground Fred.
>>
>
>Yeah, sure, Jonthy. You know, you'd think if Trump was my 'hero' I'd
>have voted for him. I didn't. As for "running America into the
>ground", that's you TDS ANTIFA fuckers, not Trump.

"Damn! Hershey bars went up again?"

Swill
All that this country desires is to see the neighboring
countries stable, orderly, and prosperous. Any country whose
people conduct themselves well can count upon our hearty
friendship. If a nation shows that it knows how to act with
reasonable efficiency and decency in social and political
matters, if it keeps order and pays its obligations, it
need fear no interference from the United States. Chronic
wrongdoing, or an impotence which results in a general
loosening of the ties of civilized society, may in America,
as elsewhere, ultimately require intervention by some
civilized nation, and in the Western Hemisphere the
adherence of the United States to the Monroe Doctrine may
force the United States, however reluctantly, in flagrant
cases of such wrongdoing or impotence, to the exercise of
an international police power. - The Roosevelt Corollary

[Governor Swill]

I notice some of your guys are getting weak. Not arguing with the
vociferousness of old. Too many mornings slapping your forehead and
moaning, "How can this be happening?"

[Governor Swill]

On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 19:34:27 -0400, Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On 3/11/2018 3:49 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 08:44:05
>> -0400:
>>
>>> On 3/10/2018 1:52 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>> Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Fri, 9 Mar 2018 22:11:16
>>>> -0500:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To do such a thing without telling anyone
>>>>> at all in his administration first, without
>>>>> seeking any advice whatsoever, is the
>>>>> penultimate example of shear ignorance,
>>>>> irresponsibility and arrogance.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You complain because he's antagonizing the NORKS. You complain when
>>>> he agrees to not do that and actually talk to them. The Secretary of
>>>> State works for the President, not the other way around.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ya, who needs the State Dept with diplomacy, who
>>> needs the FBI with law enforcement, who needs
>>> the Pentagon with war plans.
>>>
>>
>> Ask yourself how the Berlin Wall came down, Jonthy. Hint: It wasn't
>> the US State Department.
>>
>
>
>Donald Trump is no Ronald Reagan.

I'm sure Nancy and Ronnie just breathed a sigh of relief.

>But I'm not surprised
>you think so.
>
>And if Trump agrees to a deal with N Korea without
>checking with his staff first? Do you think Reagan
>would do such a thing?

You think he's actually _going_?

>>> You're hero is running America into the ground Fred.

>> Yeah, sure, Jonthy. You know, you'd think if Trump was my 'hero' I'd
>> have voted for him. I didn't.

>You support Trump like Trump supports Putin, by
>only saying positive things about him while
>at the same time saying he's a bad man.

The only, _ONLY_ world leader Trump doesn't badmouth is Vladimir
Putin.

>That's called, and I'm putting it nicely, hypocrisy.
>
>You make your feelings clear about Trump in many
>ways and for you to claim otherwise is just plain
>being dishonest.
>
>But lying is Trump's middle name, so his followers
>believe lying is a good thing too.

>As for "running America into the
>> ground", that's you TDS ANTIFA fuckers, not Trump.

>No one heard of ANTIFA, the anti fascist group, before
>Trump and his neo-fascist agenda you so love and admire
>came into town.

The browning of the globe is inevitable if white people don't start
making more babies?

[Governor Swill]

On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 20:25:31 -0700, Fred J. McCall
<fjmc...@gmail.com> wrote:

Why don't you guys get a room?

Swill

[Governor Swill]

On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 20:39:24 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>Siri Cruise wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 18:16:44
>-0800:

>> Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>> Ask yourself how the Berlin Wall came down, Jonthy. Hint: It wasn't
>>> the US State Department.
>>The State Department helped keep the peace between its erection and collapse.
>Well, not so much. And it didn't 'collapse'. It was torn down. Does
>the phrase "Mr Gorbachov, tear down this wall" ring any bells for you?

"Ich bin ein Berliner."

Longstanding policy.

Swill

[Governor Swill]

You must be a Trump supporter. You ignored the actual issues being
discussed and went straight to profane insults. You have no message.

You know what would happen to you if you tried that shit in a working
guys bar on a hot Saturday night?

[Governor Swill]

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 08:30:42 +1300, george152 <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:

>On 3/11/2018 5:35 PM, a425couple wrote:
>> On 3/9/2018 7:11 PM, Jonathan wrote:
>>
>>> We can easily see what is going to happen.
>>> Trump is desperate for a win, of any kind.
>>> So Trump will give away the farm and only
>>> receive a trivial concession from Kim, while
>>> crowing like a rooster what a great job
>>> he did. Just like with his China visit.
>>
>> And how can that be any worse than POTUS Obama did?
>
>Jonathon conveniently 'forgets' that no other US president has forced
>the little fatty with the weird haircut to the table...

Oh. You think that's how it happened?

SK bucked Trump's belligerence. While he was tweeting threats, SK
went visibly to work to make peace with Kim. Talked the IOC into
letting NK athletes into the games, even.

Trump is buddying up with Kim now because they've turned his
buffoonish foreign policy on its head.

[Governor Swill]

On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 19:54:02 -0400, Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On 3/11/2018 3:30 PM, george152 wrote:
>> On 3/11/2018 5:35 PM, a425couple wrote:
>>> On 3/9/2018 7:11 PM, Jonathan wrote:
>>>
>>>> We can easily see what is going to happen.
>>>> Trump is desperate for a win, of any kind.
>>>> So Trump will give away the farm and only
>>>> receive a trivial concession from Kim, while
>>>> crowing like a rooster what a great job
>>>> he did. Just like with his China visit.
>>>
>>> And how can that be any worse than POTUS Obama did?
>>
>> Jonathon conveniently 'forgets' that no other US president has forced
>> the little fatty with the weird haircut to the table...
>>
>
>
>
>N Korea has been trying to get a face to face with
>America for decades, Trump is the first President
>to agree without preconditions.

Trump messed up. Now he has to do something to get US power firmed
back up over there or has to effectively cede SK to the Chinese sphere
in the long term.

>That's a concession by Trump, a big one. He's
>legitimized Kim and given him the world stage
>and standing he covets.

The next day, Sarah said the US had "made no concessions" and added
that the North Koreans would have to make concessions. Trump started
backing out the very next day.

>If Kim walks away, he wins. Trump is so desperate
>for a win, not to mention grossly incompetent, he'll
>give away the farm or get us into the biggest war
>since 1950.

Dunno about war, exactly, unless you mean cyberspace.

>A war that will cause a world wide depression and
>cost us all our homes and savings, like George W
>did as he left office.

Yeah. A good cyberwar would do that.

[Governor Swill]

On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 20:36:58 -0700, Fred J. McCall
<fjmc...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 19:54:02
>-0400:
>
>>On 3/11/2018 3:30 PM, george152 wrote:
>>> On 3/11/2018 5:35 PM, a425couple wrote:
>>>> On 3/9/2018 7:11 PM, Jonathan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We can easily see what is going to happen.
>>>>> Trump is desperate for a win, of any kind.
>>>>> So Trump will give away the farm and only
>>>>> receive a trivial concession from Kim, while
>>>>> crowing like a rooster what a great job
>>>>> he did. Just like with his China visit.
>>>>
>>>> And how can that be any worse than POTUS Obama did?
>>>
>>> Jonathon conveniently 'forgets' that no other US president has forced
>>> the little fatty with the weird haircut to the table...
>>>
>>
>>N Korea has been trying to get a face to face with
>>America for decades, Trump is the first President
>>to agree without preconditions.
>>
>
>Yes, that's because Trump is the first President to be OFFERED a
>meeting without preconditions that the US must meet.

Leading from behind? 'Cause SK, China, Europe and, well, most
everybody else had already warmed towards NK.

Trump is late to the party and having a bad hair day.

[Fred J. McCall]

Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote on Mon, 12 Mar 2018
22:37:52 -0400:

>On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 12:49:08 -0700, Fred J. McCall
><fjmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 08:44:05
>>-0400:
>>
>>>On 3/10/2018 1:52 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>> Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Fri, 9 Mar 2018 22:11:16
>>>> -0500:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To do such a thing without telling anyone
>>>>> at all in his administration first, without
>>>>> seeking any advice whatsoever, is the
>>>>> penultimate example of shear ignorance,
>>>>> irresponsibility and arrogance.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You complain because he's antagonizing the NORKS. You complain when
>>>> he agrees to not do that and actually talk to them. The Secretary of
>>>> State works for the President, not the other way around.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Ya, who needs the State Dept with diplomacy, who
>>>needs the FBI with law enforcement, who needs
>>>the Pentagon with war plans.
>>>
>>
>>Ask yourself how the Berlin Wall came down, Jonthy. Hint: It wasn't
>>the US State Department.
>>
>
>Nope. Was forty some years of Democrats in Congress.
>

Oh, I see. You're just insane.

[Siri Cruise]

In article <kleead94tcd5ggvp5...@4ax.com>,

Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >Donald Trump is no Ronald Reagan.
>
> I'm sure Nancy and Ronnie just breathed a sigh of relief.

He's a secret plan to make every other Republican politician look like decent
human. Nobody's going to think about Nixon when criminal president is mentionned.

[John Carlson]

On 3/12/2018 7:37 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 12:49:08 -0700, Fred J. McCall
> <fjmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Sun, 11 Mar 2018 08:44:05
>> -0400:
>>
>>> On 3/10/2018 1:52 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>>> Jonathan <WriteI...@gmail.com> wrote on Fri, 9 Mar 2018 22:11:16
>>>> -0500:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To do such a thing without telling anyone
>>>>> at all in his administration first, without
>>>>> seeking any advice whatsoever, is the
>>>>> penultimate example of shear ignorance,
>>>>> irresponsibility and arrogance.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You complain because he's antagonizing the NORKS. You complain when
>>>> he agrees to not do that and actually talk to them. The Secretary of
>>>> State works for the President, not the other way around.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ya, who needs the State Dept with diplomacy, who
>>> needs the FBI with law enforcement, who needs
>>> the Pentagon with war plans.
>>>
>>
>> Ask yourself how the Berlin Wall came down, Jonthy. Hint: It wasn't
>> the US State Department.
>
> Nope. Was forty some years of Democrats in Congress.

Nope. Was 20 years of Republicans holding the presidency.

[Thomas Argo]

Perhaps the New SOS was briefed...

[dott.Piergiorgio]

On 11/03/2018 20:49, Fred J. McCall wrote:

> Yeah, sure, Jonthy. You know, you'd think if Trump was my 'hero' I'd

> have voted for him. I didn't. As for "running America into the

> ground", that's you TDS ANTIFA fuckers, not Trump.

fred, do you get that I have actually passed last month (aside more than
a full quarter of century...) fighting ACTUAL fascisti ?

perplexed regards from Italy (where the fascisti originally came...)
dott. Piergiorgio.

[Governor Swill]

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 22:44:39 -0700, Fred J. McCall
<fjmc...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>Ask yourself how the Berlin Wall came down, Jonthy. Hint: It wasn't
>>>the US State Department.
>>>
>>
>>Nope. Was forty some years of Democrats in Congress.
>>
>
>Oh, I see. You're just insane.

From the start of the Cold War in 1947 until the Wall came down in
1989 was 42 years. The Democrats controlled the Congress for 38 of
those 42 years having a filibuster proof Senate for ten of them. In
fairness, he GOP had the House for 6 years. The Presidency was split,
but it was Dems who ran the US government from just after the Great
Depression and got to win WW II and shepherd the United States to the
most exaltedl place any nation ever attained.

And you still vote Republican.

[Governor Swill]

On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 07:41:26 -0700, John Carlson <j_ca...@gmx.com>
wrote:

Republicans were soft on communism. Kennedy labeled Nixon weak and
took hawk votes in 1960. Nixon and Ford both used taxpayer dollars to
subsidize grain to the Soviets in the seventies.

Wars aren't won by guns alone.

[PaxPerPoten]

Wrong... That was a fixed election with the Unions being brought into
line for Kennedy. It still was a loss until a whole bunch of Dead
Democrats antied up and voted for Kennedy. Kennedy in turn double
crossed the mob.. Then had a little accident in Dallas in Nov 1963.

Nixon and Ford both used taxpayer dollars to
> subsidize grain to the Soviets in the seventies.

Your damned right they did..You fucking idiot... It was necessary to
shore up the farmers prices. Some of us suck up bread and veggies and
are not shitty dick slurpers like you. You are aware that the Democrats
not only suggested this but backed it wholeheartedly.


You're a shitty dick sucking idiot. Nixon and Cohen were Wisconsin's
Senator Chicken Joe McCarthys's right and left hand men during the
Communist purges in Government and Hollywierd.

>
> Wars aren't won by guns alone.
>
> Swill
> All that this country desires is to see the neighboring
> countries stable, orderly, and prosperous. Any country whose
> people conduct themselves well can count upon our hearty
> friendship. If a nation shows that it knows how to act with
> reasonable efficiency and decency in social and political
> matters, if it keeps order and pays its obligations, it
> need fear no interference from the United States. Chronic
> wrongdoing, or an impotence which results in a general
> loosening of the ties of civilized society, may in America,
> as elsewhere, ultimately require intervention by some
> civilized nation, and in the Western Hemisphere the
> adherence of the United States to the Monroe Doctrine may
> force the United States, however reluctantly, in flagrant
> cases of such wrongdoing or impotence, to the exercise of
> an international police power. - The Roosevelt Corollary

Bullshit! The mostly Democrat War Profiteers would never allow that!
Every modern war has been instigated by the Democrats...Every damned one!
>


--
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard
the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all
ages who mean to govern well, but *They mean to govern*. They promise to
be good masters, *but they mean to be masters*. Daniel Webster

[PaxPerPoten]

In such case..Please post mailing address and expect a COD package of
smelly Jonthy from Sacramento, Calfornia-USA.
You can have him stuffed and added to your collection. ;-)

[Gronk]

george152 wrote:
> On 3/11/2018 5:35 PM, a425couple wrote:
>> On 3/9/2018 7:11 PM, Jonathan wrote:
>>
>>> We can easily see what is going to happen.
>>> Trump is desperate for a win, of any kind.
>>> So Trump will give away the farm and only
>>> receive a trivial concession from Kim, while
>>> crowing like a rooster what a great job
>>> he did. Just like with his China visit.
>>
>> And how can that be any worse than POTUS Obama did?
>
> Jonathon conveniently 'forgets' that no other US president has forced the
> little fatty with the weird haircut to the table...

NK wasn't forced. They're playing Pres Dennison like
a cheap violin.