Torus Palatinus Removal
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in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
How painful is this surgery?
How painful is it after the surgery during recovery period?
What is the normal duration of this type of surgery?
How long will I need to wear the splint?
How long will it take to heal from the surgery.
How long will the pain from surgery & healing process last?
Will I be able to eat? Or just drink liquids?
What else should I know?
I'm not looking forward to this procedure at all.
Joel M. Eichen
what I hear, its no huge problem.
How large is the torus palatinus?
Joel M. Eichen DDS
Steve Bornfeld
What is the splint for? I wouldn't associate the splint with the torus
removal.
Usually the reason for a torus removal is that it is so large that it
will interfere with placement of a denture. I've only seen a couple of
these in person. It is preferable (and sometimes possible) to get the
tissue closed over the removed palatal bone. However, the tissue tends
to be very thin and I understand it sometimes breaks down.
I hope Dave will check in--he's the surgeon around here. In any case,
most of the pain will be related to the soft tissue. I'm sure you'll
want to be on a soft diet for a few days.
Preferably, you'd ask these very legitimate questions of your surgeon,
who of course understands your situation better than I do.
Steve
W_B
The 'splint' is really a *stent* and is used to help prevent hematoma formation.
It doesn't cover the occlusals of the teeth, just the palate.
Makes it easier for the patient to eat during the healing phase.
YMMV
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Steven Bornfeld
Thanks George, I suspected it might be (though I haven't seen one used
for this application).
Steve
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Dave King
I only use em' for very large tori. These procedures can be painful
and every little bit helps.
Dave
Gypsy W via MedKB.com
my throat is about 1 inch long. Both protrusions are about 1/2 inch thick.
Joel M. Eichen wrote:
>Hard to say, every one responds differently ....... from
>what I hear, its no huge problem.
>
>How large is the torus palatinus?
>
>Joel M. Eichen DDS
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>>I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
>>in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
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>>I'm not looking forward to this procedure at all.
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in place after the surgery. I think the surgeon said he would be drilling
into my upper jawbone to hold it in place.
Steven Bornfeld wrote:
>>>>I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
>>>>in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
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>> YMMV
>
> Thanks George, I suspected it might be (though I haven't seen one used
>for this application).
>
>Steve
>
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>> W_B
>> Take out the G'RBAGE
>> wubbab...@RBAGEyahoo.com
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Gypsy W via MedKB.com
I don't do pain very well so this procedure really has me nervous.
The tori are very aggrevating and the rear one is already painful a good
portion of the time as it is.
Dave King wrote:
>>>>>I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
>>>>>in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
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>>Steve
>
>I only use em' for very large tori. These procedures can be painful
>and every little bit helps.
>
>Dave
>
>>> --
>>>
>>> W_B
>>> Take out the G'RBAGE
>>> wubbab...@RBAGEyahoo.com
Gypsy W via MedKB.com
denture is in a horeshoe shape to avoid the torus but they broke & are
superglued together so I am getting a new set. I went to a few dentists for
opinions until I was able to find a surgeon. One dentist told me it would be
about a 6 week recovery.
Steve Bornfeld wrote:
>> I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
>> in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
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>> I'm not looking forward to this procedure at all.
>
> What is the splint for? I wouldn't associate the splint with the torus
>removal.
> Usually the reason for a torus removal is that it is so large that it
>will interfere with placement of a denture. I've only seen a couple of
>these in person. It is preferable (and sometimes possible) to get the
>tissue closed over the removed palatal bone. However, the tissue tends
>to be very thin and I understand it sometimes breaks down.
> I hope Dave will check in--he's the surgeon around here. In any case,
>most of the pain will be related to the soft tissue. I'm sure you'll
>want to be on a soft diet for a few days.
> Preferably, you'd ask these very legitimate questions of your surgeon,
>who of course understands your situation better than I do.
>
>Steve
Gypsy W via MedKB.com
during surgery. Well duh, I would hope not. But afterwards? Ieeeeeeeeee
Steve Bornfeld wrote:
>> I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
>> in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
>[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>
>> I'm not looking forward to this procedure at all.
>
> What is the splint for? I wouldn't associate the splint with the torus
>removal.
> Usually the reason for a torus removal is that it is so large that it
>will interfere with placement of a denture. I've only seen a couple of
>these in person. It is preferable (and sometimes possible) to get the
>tissue closed over the removed palatal bone. However, the tissue tends
>to be very thin and I understand it sometimes breaks down.
> I hope Dave will check in--he's the surgeon around here. In any case,
>most of the pain will be related to the soft tissue. I'm sure you'll
>want to be on a soft diet for a few days.
> Preferably, you'd ask these very legitimate questions of your surgeon,
>who of course understands your situation better than I do.
>
>Steve
Joel M. Eichen
<fo...@MedKB.com> wrote:
>The first torus is about 3/4 inch long, the second torus which is closer to
>my throat is about 1 inch long. Both protrusions are about 1/2 inch thick.
>
It should be located at the deepest part of the palate ...... and
should exhibit a bilateral symmetry.
Joel
Steven Bornfeld
Gypsy W via MedKB.com wrote:
> The surgeon really didn't say a whole lot other than...you wont feel a thing
> during surgery. Well duh, I would hope not. But afterwards? Ieeeeeeeeee
Any surgeon worth his (her) salt will make sure you have adequate pain
control meds. Having the surgical site covered should also help a lot.
Steve
>
> Steve Bornfeld wrote:
>
>>>I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
>>>in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
>>
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>>>I'm not looking forward to this procedure at all.
>>
>> What is the splint for? I wouldn't associate the splint with the torus
>>removal.
>> Usually the reason for a torus removal is that it is so large that it
>>will interfere with placement of a denture. I've only seen a couple of
>>these in person. It is preferable (and sometimes possible) to get the
>>tissue closed over the removed palatal bone. However, the tissue tends
>>to be very thin and I understand it sometimes breaks down.
>> I hope Dave will check in--he's the surgeon around here. In any case,
>>most of the pain will be related to the soft tissue. I'm sure you'll
>>want to be on a soft diet for a few days.
>> Preferably, you'd ask these very legitimate questions of your surgeon,
>>who of course understands your situation better than I do.
>>
>>Steve
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Gypsy W via MedKB.com
went thru 2 years of dental hell.
It was very difficult getting the dentist to double up on the coediene which
barely killed the pain. I guess after that experience I'm a bit paranoid
regarding mouth work.
Steven Bornfeld wrote:
>> The surgeon really didn't say a whole lot other than...you wont feel a thing
>> during surgery. Well duh, I would hope not. But afterwards? Ieeeeeeeeee
>
> Any surgeon worth his (her) salt will make sure you have adequate pain
>control meds. Having the surgical site covered should also help a lot.
>
>Steve
>
>>>>I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
>>>>in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
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Gypsy W via MedKB.com
central part then that is correct.
First one appears at the front directly behind where my teeth would be if I
had any & the second one begins about a 1/2 inch behind that towards the back
of my mouth or what I previously referred to as the throat area. Its like a
very bumpy roller coaster & quite annoying.
Joel M. Eichen wrote:
>>The first torus is about 3/4 inch long, the second torus which is closer to
>>my throat is about 1 inch long. Both protrusions are about 1/2 inch thick.
>
>It should be located at the deepest part of the palate ...... and
>should exhibit a bilateral symmetry.
>
>Joel
>
>>>Hard to say, every one responds differently ....... from
>>>what I hear, its no huge problem.
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>>>>I'm not looking forward to this procedure at all.
Joel M. Eichen
Gypsy W via MedKB.com
>>>>>I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm going
>>>>>in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
>>
>
>I only use em' for very large tori. These procedures can be painful
>and every little bit helps.
>
>Dave
>
>>> --
>>>
>>> W_B
>>> Take out the G'RBAGE
>>> wubbab...@RBAGEyahoo.com
So what is the actual procedure for this? How much pain are we talking about?
I assume you mean pain after the surgery & not during. Will I be "knocked-
out" during this procedure or will I be aware of all the gruesome stuff
involved with this procedure? I want to know as much as I can about all this.
Tim Dixon
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> Dave King wrote:
>>>>>>I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm
>>>>>>going
>>>>>>in for impressions for an oral splint in 2 weeks. My questions are"
>>[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>>>
>>>Steve
>>
>>I only use em' for very large tori. These procedures can be painful
>>and every little bit helps.
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> W_B
>>>> Take out the G'RBAGE
>>>> wubbab...@RBAGEyahoo.com
>
>
> So what is the actual procedure for this? How much pain are we talking
> about?
> I assume you mean pain after the surgery & not during. Will I be "knocked-
> out" during this procedure or will I be aware of all the gruesome stuff
> involved with this procedure? I want to know as much as I can about all
> this.
How come your surgeon hasn't informed you better?
Gypsy W via MedKB.com
share much information even when I ask questions. They pretty much treat
everything like its no big deal. And living in a small community I don't have
many options of going elsewhere.
Tim Dixon wrote:
>>>>>>>I have tori palatinus which is scheduled to be removed very soon. I'm
>>>>>>>going
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>> involved with this procedure? I want to know as much as I can about all
>> this.
>
>How come your surgeon hasn't informed you better?
Tim Dixon
should be the one to inform you of the risks vs. benefits, how the procedure
will be done, pain issues etc.
I would get an appt. with the surgeon to specifically discuss the issues of
the procedure. I would write down all my questions and concerns and bring
them with me to ask during the visit. Only then can you truly make an
informed decision, and believe me the surgeon is going to give you an
informed consent release to sign, so you need to be sure you know what you
are signing for.
Best of luck and keep us posted.
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I should have the procedure though otherwise I put up with these annoying
lumps forever. I tried finding info beforehand on the internet so I'd learn
a little more but wasnt too successful. I just recently found this wonderful
forum. I guess I also don't know what the risks are but the benefits of
having a normal mouth again seems appealing to me, guess I'll loose a lot of
excess weight too since I don't think I'll be eating much during the recovery.
Tim Dixon wrote:
>I'm certainly not suggesting you did anything wrong, but the surgeon really
>should be the one to inform you of the risks vs. benefits, how the procedure
>will be done, pain issues etc.
>
>I would get an appt. with the surgeon to specifically discuss the issues of
>the procedure. I would write down all my questions and concerns and bring
>them with me to ask during the visit. Only then can you truly make an
>informed decision, and believe me the surgeon is going to give you an
>informed consent release to sign, so you need to be sure you know what you
>are signing for.
>
>Best of luck and keep us posted.
>
>>I can't answer that Tim. Most of the doctors & dentists in my town don't
>> share much information even when I ask questions. They pretty much treat
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W_B
>>> Preferably, you'd ask these very legitimate questions of your surgeon,
>>>who of course understands your situation better than I do.
>>>
>>>Steve
>>>
>>
>>
>> The 'splint' is really a *stent* and is used to help prevent hematoma formation.
>> It doesn't cover the occlusals of the teeth, just the palate.
>> Makes it easier for the patient to eat during the healing phase.
>>
>> YMMV
>
> Thanks George, I suspected it might be (though I haven't seen one used
>for this application).
>
>Steve
Unfortunately I have been the patient, perio/endo surgery #8.
Eventually lost tooth, now have an implant.
W_B
>
>
>Gypsy W via MedKB.com wrote:
>> The surgeon really didn't say a whole lot other than...you wont feel a thing
>> during surgery. Well duh, I would hope not. But afterwards? Ieeeeeeeeee
>
> Any surgeon worth his (her) salt will make sure you have adequate pain
>control meds. Having the surgical site covered should also help a lot.
>
>Steve
agreed
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Steven Bornfeld
>
> Hi how are you after removing your torus palatinus? did your doctor get biopsy check on it? is it cancerous or non cancerous? hope you can reply cause it makes me scared, usually doctors will say its cancerous and need for chemo or radiation. hope you can answer me thank you.
>
Tori are so common, and the appearance so hard to confuse with anything
else, that I'd bet the majority of these don't get biopsied. You're
really supposed to biopsy anything removed from the body, but unless
there is something in the appearance that looks suspicious, there is no
need. In fact, unless they are causing a problem, most dentists would
not routinely recommend having them removed. Generally the only problem
at all commonly encountered with tori is that they can get in the way of
making a denture if they're really big. I also know of one case in
which a patient claimed it was interfering with her speech so she had
them removed.
Steve
cnag...@gmail.com
Unable to put stent back in, feels very tight and is painful. Is this normal?
How long is the average recovery? I have read anywhere from two to six weeks.
Thank You, my return visit with my Surgeon is 09/05/19.
Steven Bornfeld
to the torus removal. It is possible that the surgeon used more
pressure in seating the stent at the time of surgery. If there is
swelling of the tissue that could be responsible for the pain.
I'm afraid I can't be specific about healing time--for one, I'm not an
oral surgeon and haven't done any removals myself. But it's pretty safe
to say healing time will depend on the size of the torus, which can
vary; and also other individual factors such as smoking, diabetes etc.
Your surgeon can probably give you better insight when you see him/her
on Thursday.
The stent both holds the flap in place and protects the area for
comfort. I'm guessing (but cannot know) that if the surgeon told you to
remove the stent after 3 days that the thinking is you're not going to
damage the flap with the stent out--it would be safer to call the office
and ask, but it sounds like the risk is minimal for leaving it out.
Steve