Harassment of James Harris: A necessary rebuke to those who mocked his veterans status.
andy
This is Dr. Andrew Beckwith. I am spaking to you after having had
people from another forum tell me that James Harris's patriotism has
been questioned.
I urged James not to react to baiting. Now, after I have said this, I
am going to respond to you in this forum.
I am also a fellow veteran. A disabled veteran who is legally nearly
stone deaf . Many of my ilk have looked in abject horror at the
presidential elections where both Kerry and Bush have thrown
accusations at each other about who is unpatriotic and who has the
mojo with respect to the military.
This is despicable, and I urge you, in this forum , not to harass
another military veterans mainly, James Harris.
Those who have served and who have suffered for it know the
uncalculatable pain of permanent severance of health and of life of
those who have been in harms way. Those who have served also respect
the rights of veterans in the United States to entertain their own
points of view and to question authority.
You should respect James Harris's right to question authority and to
entertain unpopular points of view. This is what we should allow ALL
Americans.
If you honor our own democratic heritage, you should value that
dispensation and to never, NEVER penalize a person , especially a
MILITARY person, for having their own view point.
I am a mathematical physics PhD. I may return in due course to this
forum to discuss professional issues with you all in this discussion
group. A pre requisite for me returning though will be a cessation of
attacks upon James and at least a modicum of respect for his veterans
status. Especially on the part of sunshine patriots who have never had
the gumption to be potentially or actually in the line of fire.
Andrew Beckwith, PhD.
Daniel Ryan
Dr. Beckwith is correct. The military trains you to respond to words with
specific actions, and reserves certain other words - words which are used
lightly by civilians - to point out serious misconduct or sometimes worse.
You cannot "play general" to a veteran. You don't even know what the words
mean.
I tried to broach this issue earlier, but not having served as an adult in
the military, I lacked the necessary "fire in the belly" to get the point
across. Dr. Beckwith has that fire.
Are you going to listen to him?
- Daniel M. Ryan
Mensanator
>his veterans status.
>From: rwil...@hotmail.com (andy)
>Date: 9/10/04 10:02 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <7b4d50db.04091...@posting.google.com>
>
>Gentlemen,
Who, me?
>
>This is Dr. Andrew Beckwith. I am spaking to you after having had
>people from another forum tell me that James Harris's patriotism has
>been questioned.
And did you make any effort to verify this, or are you just responding
to hearsay?
>
>I urged James not to react to baiting.
Other people have urged James to behave properly to no avail.
Why did you think he'd listen to you?
>Now, after I have said this, I am going to respond to you in this forum.
In other words, he won't listen to you either. So you plan to solve
the problem by dealing with the symptoms rather than the cause.
Have you ever heard the phrase "putting a band-aid on a brain tumor"?
>
>I am also a fellow veteran. A disabled veteran who is legally nearly
>stone deaf . Many of my ilk have looked in abject horror at the
>presidential elections where both Kerry and Bush have thrown
>accusations at each other about who is unpatriotic and who has the
>mojo with respect to the military.
Patriotic? I thought the issue was who served versus who got his daddy
to pull strings and get him into the National Guard. The issue has
nothing to do with patriotism, it's about who's the coward.
>
>This is despicable, and I urge you, in this forum , not to harass
>another military veterans mainly, James Harris.
Do you consider Bush a veteran? I consider him a spoiled rich-kid
draft dodger. As for Harris, I have no information on his service.
>
>Those who have served and who have suffered for it know the
>uncalculatable pain of permanent severance of health and of life of
>those who have been in harms way.
Maybe you know. Did Harris suffer from his service?
>Those who have served also respect the rights of veterans
>in the United States to entertain their own points of view
>and to question authority.
And to spew anti-American rhetoric while we are at war?
>
>You should respect James Harris's right to question authority and to
>entertain unpopular points of view. This is what we should allow ALL
>Americans.
>
>If you honor our own democratic heritage, you should value that
>dispensation and to never, NEVER penalize a person , especially a
>MILITARY person, for having their own view point.
Here's a little something you are probably not aware of. It's the
Oath of Office of the President of the United States:
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of
President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve,
protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Note that the president doesn't swear to protect the country or its
people. He swears to PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION. You do
know that the President is the Commander In Chief of the
Armed Forces? For ANY MILITARY person to advocate the
abrogation of the Constitution is TREASON!
>
>I am a mathematical physics PhD. I may return in due course to this
>forum to discuss professional issues with you all in this discussion
>group. A pre requisite for me returning though will be a cessation of
>attacks upon James
Keep dreaming. When Harris learns to behave the forum will
follow suit.
>and at least a modicum of respect for his veterans status.
Sorry. Veterans who turn traitor don't get no respect. When Harris
shows sympathy for the future veterans who are suffering in Iraq
instead of sympathy for terrorists, then maybe he'll get some
respect.
>Especially on the part of sunshine patriots who have never had
>the gumption to be potentially or actually in the line of fire.
Look pal, I didn't have a rich daddy to get me into the National
Guard. I avoided Vietnam the hard way: I won the draft lottery.
>
>Andrew Beckwith, PhD.
--
Mensanator
Ace of Clubs
Mensanator
>mocked his veterans status.
>From: "Daniel Ryan" danie...@sprint.ca
>Date: 9/10/04 10:36 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <Wou0d.3640$H23....@newscontent-01.sprint.ca>
No.
>
>
>- Daniel M. Ryan
Richard Henry
"andy" <rwil...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7b4d50db.04091...@posting.google.com...
> Gentlemen,
>
> This is Dr. Andrew Beckwith. I am spaking to you after having had
> people from another forum tell me that James Harris's patriotism has
> been questioned.
What forum?
> I urged James not to react to baiting. Now, after I have said this, I
> am going to respond to you in this forum.
>
> I am also a fellow veteran. A disabled veteran who is legally nearly
> stone deaf . Many of my ilk have looked in abject horror at the
> presidential elections where both Kerry and Bush have thrown
> accusations at each other about who is unpatriotic and who has the
> mojo with respect to the military.
>
> This is despicable, and I urge you, in this forum , not to harass
> another military veterans mainly, James Harris.
>
> Those who have served and who have suffered for it know the
> uncalculatable pain of permanent severance of health and of life of
> those who have been in harms way. Those who have served also respect
> the rights of veterans in the United States to entertain their own
> points of view and to question authority.
>
> You should respect James Harris's right to question authority and to
> entertain unpopular points of view. This is what we should allow ALL
> Americans.
Unfortunately, mathematics is not a social game. Some points of view are of
less value than others.
> If you honor our own democratic heritage, you should value that
> dispensation and to never, NEVER penalize a person , especially a
> MILITARY person, for having their own view point.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
> I am a mathematical physics PhD. I may return in due course to this
> forum to discuss professional issues with you all in this discussion
> group. A pre requisite for me returning though will be a cessation of
> attacks upon James and at least a modicum of respect for his veterans
> status. Especially on the part of sunshine patriots who have never had
> the gumption to be potentially or actually in the line of fire.
DLTDHYITAOTWO*
And who are you calling a "sunshine patriot", Doctor?
*Don't let the door hit you... etc.
Jesse F. Hughes
You're an idiot and he's a troll.
James's service, admirable as that may be, has nothing at all to do
with his or his respondents conduct here.
But if you want to look to a man that posts mostly in alt.flame and
alt.usenet.kooks for moral leadership, be my guest. The rest of us
will respond to James on the basis of what he says here.
--
Jesse F. Hughes
"Love songs suck and losing you ain't worth a damn."
-- The poetry of Bad Livers
Van Jacques
another name. I have a hard time believing he really has
got someone to come over here and stick up for him.
Van
Russell E. Rierson
> I am a mathematical physics PhD. I may return in due course to this
> forum to discuss professional issues with you all in this discussion
> group. A pre requisite for me returning though will be a cessation of
> attacks upon James and at least a modicum of respect for his veterans
> status. Especially on the part of sunshine patriots who have never had
> the gumption to be potentially or actually in the line of fire.
>
> Andrew Beckwith, PhD.
Hello Dr. Beckwith ;)
TOE:
The expansion of the universe starting from an extremely curved
initial state i.e. the "big bang", must be described by the marriage
of GR and QFT ...of course.
Split the full action of a physical system into a harmonic action with
unknown frequency - which is the variational parameter, and the
interaction, which is the difference between the full potential and
the harmonic potential. Expand the interaction into a Taylor series,
then calculate the elements as harmonic meanvalues, approximating the
euclidean path integrals to an arbitrary degree.
The quantization of Einstein's field equation is not renormalizable
but there is also the "string" approach. The other avenue is taken by
Wheeler and De Witt, and gives the quantum cosmological analogue for
the Schroedinger equation. The solution of the Wheeler-DeWitt equation
is a functional in all locally defined spacetime metrics and is of
infinite dimension. The parameter space spanned by all quantum fields
and geometrical parameters, defines what is known as the
"superspace". Generalize the tunneling Hamiltonian - in which
tunneling between states are represented as wave functionals of the
scalar quantum field.
In GR, there is a formulation called configuration space, which is the
the superspace, of the geometrodynamics formulation, where the
wavefunctions will be functions over the abstract spaces that "define"
space itself. The spaces are generally covariant and "coordinate
spaces" are just a convienient modeling tool. There is an independence
of coordinate systems; the classical geometrodynamics constitutes an
wavefunction/algorithm for constructing a leaf history of foliations
through superspace in an interlocking of three geometries.
If my interpretation is correct, since it is not possible to determine
the exact functionals satisfying the Wheeler-DeWitt functional
equation, one must simplify the proceedure via the assumption that
all geometrical degrees of freedom cumulate into one scalar quantity -
the radius of the universe. Thus the associated superspace parameter
is the expansion factor of the universe and is related to the Hubble
constant. Ergo, the assumption makes it possible to introduce a simple
metric, which describes a curved or flat universe - depending on the
model under consideration.
Will Twentyman
> Gentlemen,
>
> This is Dr. Andrew Beckwith. I am spaking to you after having had
> people from another forum tell me that James Harris's patriotism has
> been questioned.
As far as I am concerned, James Harris's patriotism is totally
irrelevant to the validity of his mathematical theories. The
correctness of his math has been shown to be non-existent.
> This is despicable, and I urge you, in this forum , not to harass
> another military veterans mainly, James Harris.
Most of the derision that James receives is based solely on the fact
that his math is a joke, yet he refuses to understand where his errors
are. James also shows a strong tendency to make false accusations, and
otherwise rant and rave.
> Those who have served and who have suffered for it know the
> uncalculatable pain of permanent severance of health and of life of
> those who have been in harms way. Those who have served also respect
> the rights of veterans in the United States to entertain their own
> points of view and to question authority.
There is a difference between question authority and setting yourself up
as the ultimate authority.
> You should respect James Harris's right to question authority and to
> entertain unpopular points of view. This is what we should allow ALL
> Americans.
Math is not about authority, it is about truth. Also, this forum is a
global forum, not restricted to Americans.
> If you honor our own democratic heritage, you should value that
> dispensation and to never, NEVER penalize a person , especially a
> MILITARY person, for having their own view point.
In the military, I'm sure soldiers are disciplined for not following
orders. It's fine to have your own point of view, but when it flies in
the face of cold, hard facts, it is a sign of confusion or mental problems.
> I am a mathematical physics PhD. I may return in due course to this
> forum to discuss professional issues with you all in this discussion
> group. A pre requisite for me returning though will be a cessation of
> attacks upon James and at least a modicum of respect for his veterans
> status. Especially on the part of sunshine patriots who have never had
> the gumption to be potentially or actually in the line of fire.
You would do better to review the various threads involving James and
determine what, if any, harassment he has received before defending him.
James has a history of taking disagreement as an attack.
--
Will Twentyman
email: wtwentyman at copper dot net
andy
expected, your group does not have the entire picture .
James wanted unconditional backing, and I do not exactly work that
way. As it is, the discussions as to the goings on went to the
ultranet, which I am a part of and I felt obligated to respond to the
upset engendered.
mensa...@aol.compost (Mensanator) wrote in message news:<20040911013001...@mb-m06.aol.com>...
> >Subject: Harassment of James Harris: A necessary rebuke to those who mocked
> >his veterans status.
> >From: rwil...@hotmail.com (andy)
> >Date: 9/10/04 10:02 PM Central Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <7b4d50db.04091...@posting.google.com>
> >
> >Gentlemen,
>
> Who, me?
What should I call you. Hey you ?
>
> >
> >This is Dr. Andrew Beckwith. I am spaking to you after having had
> >people from another forum tell me that James Harris's patriotism has
> >been questioned.
>
> And did you make any effort to verify this, or are you just responding
> to hearsay?
Not quite. I read the entire business. I spent an afternoon reading
this groups goings on, at the expense of my duties at Fermi
laboratory. Which I cannot do very often.
>
> >
> >I urged James not to react to baiting.
>
> Other people have urged James to behave properly to no avail.
> Why did you think he'd listen to you?
I regard him as having been booted in the balls one too many times.
That makes people hyper sensitive. That is not a fault in itself.
>
> >Now, after I have said this, I am going to respond to you in this forum.
>
> In other words, he won't listen to you either. So you plan to solve
> the problem by dealing with the symptoms rather than the cause.
> Have you ever heard the phrase "putting a band-aid on a brain tumor"?
The first step in responding to upset is to get people to lower their
voices. Someone ADULT enough has to make the first step. That datum
appears to be beyond the ability of sci.math to parse.
>
> >
> >I am also a fellow veteran. A disabled veteran who is legally nearly
> >stone deaf . Many of my ilk have looked in abject horror at the
> >presidential elections where both Kerry and Bush have thrown
> >accusations at each other about who is unpatriotic and who has the
> >mojo with respect to the military.
>
> Patriotic? I thought the issue was who served versus who got his daddy
> to pull strings and get him into the National Guard. The issue has
> nothing to do with patriotism, it's about who's the coward.
>
We know that Bush had strings pulled. That is obvious. But it, the
dispute, went way beyond that.
As you know, James is extremely controversial
> >
> >This is despicable, and I urge you, in this forum , not to harass
> >another military veterans mainly, James Harris.
>
> Do you consider Bush a veteran? I consider him a spoiled rich-kid
> draft dodger. As for Harris, I have no information on his service.
I consider Bush to be a fraud. Pass the salt.
>
> >
> >Those who have served and who have suffered for it know the
> >uncalculatable pain of permanent severance of health and of life of
> >those who have been in harms way.
>
> Maybe you know. Did Harris suffer from his service?
Let me say that from what I learned that he was not treated with
respect.
>
> >Those who have served also respect the rights of veterans
> >in the United States to entertain their own points of view
> >and to question authority.
>
> And to spew anti-American rhetoric while we are at war?
The test of patriotism is to encourage debate, and to not brand anti
American opinions which differ from the norm.
Nothing Harris said was treasonable. The statements were hot headed,
but that is something some super patriots ought to learn how to deal
with.
>
> >
> >You should respect James Harris's right to question authority and to
> >entertain unpopular points of view. This is what we should allow ALL
> >Americans.
> >
> >If you honor our own democratic heritage, you should value that
> >dispensation and to never, NEVER penalize a person , especially a
> >MILITARY person, for having their own view point.
>
> Here's a little something you are probably not aware of. It's the
> Oath of Office of the President of the United States:
>
> "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of
> President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve,
> protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
>
> Note that the president doesn't swear to protect the country or its
> people. He swears to PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION. You do
> know that the President is the Commander In Chief of the
> Armed Forces? For ANY MILITARY person to advocate the
> abrogation of the Constitution is TREASON!
>
I know that better than you.
> >
> >I am a mathematical physics PhD. I may return in due course to this
> >forum to discuss professional issues with you all in this discussion
> >group. A pre requisite for me returning though will be a cessation of
> >attacks upon James
>
> Keep dreaming. When Harris learns to behave the forum will
> follow suit.
You are playing a game of chickens which is not going to earn anyone
any credit.
>
> >and at least a modicum of respect for his veterans status.
>
> Sorry. Veterans who turn traitor don't get no respect. When Harris
> shows sympathy for the future veterans who are suffering in Iraq
> instead of sympathy for terrorists, then maybe he'll get some
> respect.
Let me get this through your rock head. Harris did not utter
treasonous statements. They were not well thought out, but that is not
treason.
For your information, I was a counter intelligence officer and I have
dealt with security threats. Harris is not a threat. He is being
extremely hot headed.
>
> >Especially on the part of sunshine patriots who have never had
> >the gumption to be potentially or actually in the line of fire.
>
> Look pal, I didn't have a rich daddy to get me into the National
> Guard. I avoided Vietnam the hard way: I won the draft lottery.
I am severely disabled from military duty. Ditto. The whine fest stops
here. Right now, I have had maybe about 15 years sliced off my life
due to service injuries.
>
> >
> >Andrew Beckwith, PhD.
andy
situation as it is viewed by others.
"Van Jacques" <calccurv...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<chukl3$u...@odah37.prod.google.com>...
Van Jacques
And you are speaking for these "others", I take it.
I usually speak for myself, and leave others to speak for themselves.
Van
Marc Olschok
> Gentlemen,
>
> This is Dr. Andrew Beckwith. I am spaking to you after having had
> people from another forum tell me that James Harris's patriotism has
> been questioned.
Perhaps you could post in alt.patriotism.usa instead?
>
> I urged James not to react to baiting. Now, after I have said this, I
> am going to respond to you in this forum.
>
> I am also a fellow veteran. A disabled veteran who is legally nearly
> stone deaf . Many of my ilk have looked in abject horror at the
> presidential elections where both Kerry and Bush have thrown
> accusations at each other about who is unpatriotic and who has the
> mojo with respect to the military.
>
> This is despicable, and I urge you, in this forum , not to harass
> another military veterans mainly, James Harris.
Why should military veterans be excempt from harassment?
Of course, if you meant to say, that harrassment as such is not
appropriate in is newsgroup, I agree with you.
>
> Those who have served and who have suffered for it know the
> uncalculatable pain of permanent severance of health and of life of
> those who have been in harms way.
Whenever someone tries to back up his views on non-military issues
by the fact that he has served in the armed forces, I am about to suspect
that this service might have affected his mental health as well.
> Those who have served also respect
> the rights of veterans in the United States to entertain their own
> points of view and to question authority.
Everyone should be granted this right, whether he is a veteran or not.
>
> You should respect James Harris's right to question authority and to
> entertain unpopular points of view. This is what we should allow ALL
> Americans.
See above; perhaps alt.patriotism.usa might be the right forum.
>
> If you honor our own democratic heritage, you should value that
> dispensation and to never, NEVER penalize a person , especially a
> MILITARY person, for having their own view point.
Let me guess. Being able to have a own point of view is such a rare
condition in "military persons", that we should special care?
>
> I am a mathematical physics PhD. I may return in due course to this
> forum to discuss professional issues with you all in this discussion
> group. A pre requisite for me returning though will be a cessation of
> attacks upon James and at least a modicum of respect for his veterans
> status. Especially on the part of sunshine patriots who have never had
> the gumption to be potentially or actually in the line of fire.
Again, who cares? If you have something to contribute, it is your choice
to do it or not.
Marc Olschok
William Rex Marshall
Mr Beckwith of Fermi Labs is listed on the same web page as Mr Harris at
http://www.iomas.com/gina/ultrahiq/mega-society/NoesisArchive/NoesisEditors.html
Mensanator
>Message-id: <7b4d50db.04091...@posting.google.com>
>
>I read your group posts. All of them as of the last month. As I
>expected, your group does not have the entire picture .
>
>James wanted unconditional backing, and I do not exactly work that
>way. As it is, the discussions as to the goings on went to the
>ultranet, which I am a part of and I felt obligated to respond to the
>upset engendered.
>
>mensa...@aol.compost (Mensanator) wrote in message
>news:<20040911013001...@mb-m06.aol.com>...
>> >Subject: Harassment of James Harris: A necessary rebuke to those who
>mocked
>> >his veterans status.
>> >From: rwil...@hotmail.com (andy)
>> >Date: 9/10/04 10:02 PM Central Daylight Time
>> >Message-id: <7b4d50db.04091...@posting.google.com>
>> >
>> >Gentlemen,
>>
>> Who, me?
>
>What should I call you. Hey you ?
I was merely wondering if this diatribe was directed at sci.math
readers in general or me specifically.
>>
>> >
>> >This is Dr. Andrew Beckwith. I am spaking to you after having had
>> >people from another forum tell me that James Harris's patriotism has
>> >been questioned.
>>
>> And did you make any effort to verify this, or are you just responding
>> to hearsay?
>
>Not quite. I read the entire business. I spent an afternoon reading
>this groups goings on, at the expense of my duties at Fermi
>laboratory. Which I cannot do very often.
>
>>
>> >
>> >I urged James not to react to baiting.
>>
>> Other people have urged James to behave properly to no avail.
>> Why did you think he'd listen to you?
>
>I regard him as having been booted in the balls one too many times.
>That makes people hyper sensitive. That is not a fault in itself.
Unless one has provoked the ball booting, in which case it is a fault.
Or did you not bother to read those posts in your review.
>>
>> >Now, after I have said this, I am going to respond to you in this forum.
>>
>> In other words, he won't listen to you either. So you plan to solve
>> the problem by dealing with the symptoms rather than the cause.
>> Have you ever heard the phrase "putting a band-aid on a brain tumor"?
>
>The first step in responding to upset is to get people to lower their
>voices.
It's too late for that. The way to deal with a troll is to shout back just as
loud.
>Someone ADULT enough has to make the first step.
Sorry, there are no adults here, just veterans and critic trolls.
>That datum appears to be beyond the ability of sci.math to parse.
We parse it just fine, thank you. It's just that your datum is wrong.
>>
>> >
>> >I am also a fellow veteran. A disabled veteran who is legally nearly
>> >stone deaf . Many of my ilk have looked in abject horror at the
>> >presidential elections where both Kerry and Bush have thrown
>> >accusations at each other about who is unpatriotic and who has the
>> >mojo with respect to the military.
>>
>> Patriotic? I thought the issue was who served versus who got his daddy
>> to pull strings and get him into the National Guard. The issue has
>> nothing to do with patriotism, it's about who's the coward.
>>
>
>We know that Bush had strings pulled. That is obvious. But it, the
>dispute, went way beyond that.
>
>As you know, James is extremely controversial
>> >
>> >This is despicable, and I urge you, in this forum , not to harass
>> >another military veterans mainly, James Harris.
>>
>> Do you consider Bush a veteran? I consider him a spoiled rich-kid
>> draft dodger. As for Harris, I have no information on his service.
>
>I consider Bush to be a fraud. Pass the salt.
>>
>> >
>> >Those who have served and who have suffered for it know the
>> >uncalculatable pain of permanent severance of health and of life of
>> >those who have been in harms way.
>>
>> Maybe you know. Did Harris suffer from his service?
>
>Let me say that from what I learned that he was not treated with
>respect.
Really? Does he give a reason? Discrimination? It wouldn't be because
he's an asshole, would it?
There was a rumor going around that Harris is currently unemployed.
Does he have a job? Could you e-mail the name and address of his employer?
>>
>> >Those who have served also respect the rights of veterans
>> >in the United States to entertain their own points of view
>> >and to question authority.
>>
>> And to spew anti-American rhetoric while we are at war?
>
>The test of patriotism is to encourage debate, and to not brand anti
>American opinions which differ from the norm.
>
>Nothing Harris said was treasonable. The statements were hot headed,
>but that is something some super patriots ought to learn how to deal
>with.
If you're going to make hot-headed statements, then you can't demand
respect for being a veteran. If Harris wants the respect he's due as a
veteran, then maybe he should learn to think before he shoots his mouth off.
Everybody makes hot-headed statements. It's the cold, calculated
statements, such as harassing someone's employer in an attempt to get
them fired, that are the real issue. Try observing the forest instead of
focussing on a single tree.
Credit? What credit? Do you know who I am? How can I cash in this
credit I'll get by being civil to Harris?
>>
>> >and at least a modicum of respect for his veterans status.
>>
>> Sorry. Veterans who turn traitor don't get no respect. When Harris
>> shows sympathy for the future veterans who are suffering in Iraq
>> instead of sympathy for terrorists, then maybe he'll get some
>> respect.
>
>Let me get this through your rock head. Harris did not utter
>treasonous statements. They were not well thought out, but that is not
>treason.
Ok, if you say so.
There's still that matter of terrorist sympathies though.
>
>For your information, I was a counter intelligence officer and I have
>dealt with security threats.
Jesus H. Christ! We're doomed.
>Harris is not a threat. He is being
>extremely hot headed.
>
>>
>> >Especially on the part of sunshine patriots who have never had
>> >the gumption to be potentially or actually in the line of fire.
>>
>> Look pal, I didn't have a rich daddy to get me into the National
>> Guard. I avoided Vietnam the hard way: I won the draft lottery.
>
>I am severely disabled from military duty. Ditto. The whine fest stops
>here. Right now, I have had maybe about 15 years sliced off my life
>due to service injuries.
>
>>
>> >
>> >Andrew Beckwith, PhD.
Richard Henry
"William Rex Marshall" <nos...@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:4143...@news.actrix.gen.nz...
http://www.iomas.com/gina/ultrahiq/mega-society/NoesisArchive/NoesisEditors.html
Everyone coming in from that group seems to have a high opinion of James.
Perhaps a sci.math frequent reader should join up to see what is being said.
Does anyone here have the necessary qualifications?
Christian Bau
"Richard Henry" <rph...@home.com> wrote:
What would the necessary qualifications be? Strong case of narcissistic
personality disorder?
Andrzej Kolowski
> Gentlemen,
>
> This is Dr. Andrew Beckwith. I am spaking to you after having had
> people from another forum tell me that James Harris's patriotism has
> been questioned.
>
Harris has threatened the use of *military* force against people
here who have proved that his mathematics is incorrect. He has
threatened to expose his opponents to the FBI, the CIA, and the
NSA. He has threatened legal action, again, against people here.
For maligning or libelling him or for calling him unpatriotic?
No! For having dared to post valid counterexamples to his
mathematical "proofs"! He has tried to silence at least one of
his critics by contacting his employer and charging him with
racism (for having *considered* making a racist remark, not for
actually making it). In my view these are potentially abuses of
the freedoms we are guaranteed by the Constitution. I have no
idea who has been questioning his patriotism in this forum or any
other, but I would say that if such questioning has occurred,
there may be a rational basis for it.
> I urged James not to react to baiting. Now, after I have said this, I
> am going to respond to you in this forum.
>
> I am also a fellow veteran. A disabled veteran who is legally nearly
> stone deaf . Many of my ilk have looked in abject horror at the
> presidential elections where both Kerry and Bush have thrown
> accusations at each other about who is unpatriotic and who has the
> mojo with respect to the military.
>
> This is despicable, and I urge you, in this forum , not to harass
> another military veterans mainly, James Harris.
veteran namely
>
> Those who have served and who have suffered for it know the
> uncalculatable pain of permanent severance of health and of life of
incalculable
> those who have been in harms way. Those who have served also respect
harm's
> the rights of veterans in the United States to entertain their own
> points of view and to question authority.
>
Of course. But are you saying veterans have more such rights
than the rest of us?
> You should respect James Harris's right to question authority and to
> entertain unpopular points of view. This is what we should allow ALL
> Americans.
>
Agreed. The point has been made many times that James Harris
himself is perhaps the only person here here who has actually
taken action to suppress other people's freedom of expression, by
explicitly contacting his opponent's employer *and* the Attorney
General of the state in which his opponent lived.
> If you honor our own democratic heritage, you should value that
> dispensation and to never, NEVER penalize a person , especially a
> MILITARY person, for having their own view point.
>
Veterans deserve respect. They do not deserve obsequious
worship or absolute freedom from criticism for their words or
actions. No one does.
> I am a mathematical physics PhD.
I frankly doubt this. Your writing is semi-literate.
> I may return in due course to this
> forum to discuss professional issues with you all in this discussion
> group. A pre requisite for me returning though will be a cessation of
prerequisite
> attacks upon James and at least a modicum of respect for his veterans
veteran's
> status. Especially on the part of sunshine patriots who have never had
> the gumption to be potentially or actually in the line of fire.
>
Was Harris ever in the line of fire? He has been quite
reluctant to answer certain questions regarding his military service.
Andrzej
> Andrew Beckwith, PhD.
Jesse F. Hughes
> Harris has threatened the use of *military* force against people
> here who have proved that his mathematics is incorrect. He has
> threatened to expose his opponents to the FBI, the CIA, and the
> NSA. He has threatened legal action, again, against people here.
> For maligning or libelling him or for calling him unpatriotic?
> No! For having dared to post valid counterexamples to his
> mathematical "proofs"! He has tried to silence at least one of
> his critics by contacting his employer and charging him with
> racism (for having *considered* making a racist remark, not for
> actually making it). In my view these are potentially abuses of
> the freedoms we are guaranteed by the Constitution. I have no
> idea who has been questioning his patriotism in this forum or any
> other, but I would say that if such questioning has occurred,
> there may be a rational basis for it.
Aw, don't take either of these guys so seriously. Andrew Beckwith is
just another garden variety troll (but JSH is one of a kind).
--
Jesse F. Hughes
"What you call reasonable is suspect since you've proven yourself to
be an enemy of mathematics." -- James S. Harris defends the cause.
Quinn Tyler Jackson
>> I am a mathematical physics PhD.
Kolowski replied:
> I frankly doubt this. Your writing is semi-literate.
Take a gander at:
http://www.arxiv.org/find/math-ph/1/au:+Beckwith_A/0/1/0/all/0/1
Kolowski, I utterly do not *get* how you draw that conclusion about
Beckwith.
Why are you willing to jump into an ad hominem so quickly?
Find reference 3 here:
http://www.arxiv.org/ftp/math-ph/papers/0407/0407016.pdf
Read it. Reference 3.
Jesus H. Christ, people! Maybe Dr. Beckwith is a professional mathematician
from that "other list" who has now come public with his support for James
Harris.
Holy Frick! What *is* it with you all?
Do you think Beckwith and Jackson have never written a paper before? What
*is* it with you, I ask again? Good God.
--
Quinn
Richard Henry
"Andrzej Kolowski" <akol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a1fa83d9.04091...@posting.google.com...
> rwil...@hotmail.com (andy) wrote in message
news:<7b4d50db.04091...@posting.google.com>...
> > Gentlemen,
>
>
> I frankly doubt this. Your writing is semi-literate.
non sequitur.
Virgil
"William Rex Marshall" <nos...@invalid.com> wrote:
> http://www.iomas.com/gina/ultrahiq/mega-society/NoesisArchive/NoesisEditors.ht
> ml
And both appear on
http://www.insurgent.org/~pjr/auk/whiners.html
Virgil
"Quinn Tyler Jackson" <qui...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Beckwith said:
>
> >> I am a mathematical physics PhD.
>
> Kolowski replied:
>
> > I frankly doubt this. Your writing is semi-literate.
>
> Take a gander at:
>
> http://www.arxiv.org/find/math-ph/1/au:+Beckwith_A/0/1/0/all/0/1
This merely demostrates that physicists need not be very literate.
Van Jacques
andy
nonsense.
Save your castigations for the retards who are impressed by them. And
, get a
life. It is urgent. I see a great need.
Tunneling Hamiltonian Representation of False Vacuum Decay
I. Application to Condensed Matter problems and Cosmology
A. W. Beckwith
Department of Physics and
Texas Center for Superconductivity and Advanced Materials
University of Houston
Houston, Texas 77204-5005, USA
Abstract
The tunneling Hamiltonian has proven to be a useful method
in many-body physics to treat particle tunneling between different
states represented as wave functions. We present a generalization of
the tunneling Hamiltonian to quantum field theory, in which tunneling
between states represented as wave functionals of a scalar quantum
field  is considered. We examine quantum decay of the false
vacuum in the driven sine-Gordon system, and show it is consistent
with the tunneling formalism derived here and matches up with the
soliton-antisoliton (S-S') separation obtained from the Bogomil'nyi
inequality. This inequality permits construction of a Gaussian wave
functional representation of S-S' nucleated states generalization of
the tunneling Hamiltonian to charge density wave transport problems,
in which tunneling between states which are wavefunctionals of a
scalar quantum field are considered. We derive I-E curves which
match Zenier curves used to fit data experimentally with
wavefunctionals congruent with the false vacuum hypothesis , as well
as apply a generalization of the way we formed appropriate wave
functionals for CDW to how to present nucleation of an inflationary
universe, which may permit formation of dark matter using Sherrers
k-essence model construction.
A. W. Beckwith: ******************
PACS numbers : 03.75.Lm, 11.27.+d, 71.45.Lr ,98.65.Dx , 98.80.-k
As well as:
RE: Attn: Anna Shparberg, Asst. Editor, JMP I have had it. Final re
dos I will do of this for THIS week. Please pick the error free
document. Thank you.
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:56:30 -0500
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X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
Thread-Topic: Attn: Anna Shparberg, Asst. Editor, JMP I have had it.
Final re dos I will do of this for THIS week. Please pick the error
free document. Thank you.
thread-index: AcSW6waJisFo14h8QMapbg++arwgUwAc9aLi
From: "JMP" <j...@indiana.edu> Add to Address Book
To: ma...@uh.edu, "Andrew Beckwith" <*************>
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FILETIME=[807B7B80:01C4975F]
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Dear Prof. Beckwith,
Thnak you very much for sending us these files. We will use the pdf
file in your latest message as the definitive revised version of your
manuscript 04-0455.
Best wishes,
Anna Shparberg, Asst. Editor
*******************************************
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Bloomington, Indiana 47405 email: j...@indiana.edu
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> ----------
> From: Andrew Beckwith
> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2004 11:02 PM
> To: JMP; ma...@uh.edu; *****************
> Subject: Attn: Anna Shparberg, Asst. Editor, JMP I have had it.
Final re dos I will do of this for THIS week. Please pick the error
free
document. Thank you.
>
> <<Message: S-S' T.H.F.V.appl2...>>
> From Andrew Beckwith Thu Sep 9 19:58:02 2004
> X-Apparently-To: ************** via 206.190.38.206; Thu,
09 Sep 2004 19:58:18 -0700
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> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 19:58:02 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Andrew Beckwith" <***************> Add to Address
BookAdd to Address Book
> Subject: Attn : Anna Shparberg, Asst. Editor, JMP: Two PDF files ,
done by different programs. Please pick the one without font errors
> To: "Andrew Beckwith" <projectb...@yahoo.com>, j...@indiana.edu
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary="0-529148410-1094785082=:62647"
> Content-Length: 1529835
>
> Dear Anna Shparberg,
> Asst. Editor, JMP
>
> I spent nearly five days on this font business. This is close to my
final conclusion.
>
> The word file is put in as back up. The two PDF files are done by
different programs. The larger PDF was done by adobe5.0, and the
smaller
was done by a different program.
>
> Use the Adobe file which does not contain font errors. If the smaller
file works, then use it for your review process.
>
>
"William Rex Marshall" <nos...@invalid.com> wrote in message news:<4143...@news.actrix.gen.nz>...
Guenther von Knakspott
You see me now, a veteran
Of a thousand psychic wars
I've been living on the edge so long
Where the winds of limbo roar
And I'm young enough to look at
And far too old to see
All the scars are on the inside
I'm not sure that there's anything left of me
...
You ask me why I'm weary
Why I can't speak to you
You blame me for my silence
Say it's time I changed and grew
But the war's still going on, dear
And there's no end that I know
And I can't say if we're ever
I can't say if we're ever gonna be free
...
Don't let these shakes go on
It's time we had a break from it
Send me to the rear
Where the tides of madness swell
And been sliding into hell
Oh, please don't let shakes go on
Don't let these shakes go on
Don't let these shakes go on
Excerpts from "Veteran of the Psychic Wars" by BÖC
Jesse F. Hughes
> I may return in due course to this forum to discuss professional
> issues with you all in this discussion group.
Uh oh.
> A pre requisite for me returning though will be a cessation of
> attacks upon James and at least a modicum of respect for his
> veterans status.
Whew. Threat averted.
--
Jesse F. Hughes
"Usenet is demonstrably dangerous. It needs to be regulated."
--James S. Harris, voice of reason and moderation
David Moran
>
> This is Dr. Andrew Beckwith. I am spaking to you after having had
> people from another forum tell me that James Harris's patriotism has
> been questioned.
>
> I urged James not to react to baiting. Now, after I have said this, I
> am going to respond to you in this forum.
>
> I am also a fellow veteran. A disabled veteran who is legally nearly
> stone deaf . Many of my ilk have looked in abject horror at the
> presidential elections where both Kerry and Bush have thrown
> accusations at each other about who is unpatriotic and who has the
> mojo with respect to the military.
>
> This is despicable, and I urge you, in this forum , not to harass
> another military veterans mainly, James Harris.
>
> Those who have served and who have suffered for it know the
> uncalculatable pain of permanent severance of health and of life of
> those who have been in harms way. Those who have served also respect
> the rights of veterans in the United States to entertain their own
> points of view and to question authority.
>
> You should respect James Harris's right to question authority and to
> entertain unpopular points of view. This is what we should allow ALL
> Americans.
>
> If you honor our own democratic heritage, you should value that
> dispensation and to never, NEVER penalize a person , especially a
> MILITARY person, for having their own view point.
>
> forum to discuss professional issues with you all in this discussion
> attacks upon James and at least a modicum of respect for his veterans
> the gumption to be potentially or actually in the line of fire.
>
> Andrew Beckwith, PhD.
James has to give respect to earn respect, idiot.
Dave
Denis Feldmann
> I most certainly do exist. As it is, I am asking you to view the
> situation as it is viewed by others.
Show us proof (like for instance a post from a real adress... hint :
rwil...@hotmail.com is not very convincing for such a high-level veteran
you seem to be)
Denis Feldmann
> andy wrote:
>> I most certainly do exist. As it is, I am asking you to view the
>> situation as it is viewed by others.
>
> Show us proof (like for instance a post from a real adress... hint :
> rwil...@hotmail.com is not very convincing for such a high-level
> veteran you seem to be)
>
Then it seemed that there was a real A. W. Beckwith, with a PhD in physics .
So what ? 1) it is not necessarily "andy" 2) UnaBomber was a mathematician
3) Math ideas are judged for their worth, not any other way, and *certainly*
not because a PhD (in physics) says something 4) JSH is loathable, and to
try to defend him just lowers one position by association 5) Threats by this
PhD are worth a good laugh, but nothing more.
KeithK
"Mensanator" <mensa...@aol.compost> wrote in message
news:20040911013001...@mb-m06.aol.com...
> >Subject: Harassment of James Harris: A necessary rebuke to those who
mocked
> >his veterans status.
> >From: rwil...@hotmail.com (andy)
> >Date: 9/10/04 10:02 PM Central Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <7b4d50db.04091...@posting.google.com>
> >
> >Gentlemen,
>
> Who, me?
>
> >
> >people from another forum tell me that James Harris's patriotism has
> >been questioned.
>
> to hearsay?
>
> >
>
> Why did you think he'd listen to you?
>
>
> the problem by dealing with the symptoms rather than the cause.
> Have you ever heard the phrase "putting a band-aid on a brain tumor"?
>
> >
> >stone deaf . Many of my ilk have looked in abject horror at the
> >presidential elections where both Kerry and Bush have thrown
> >accusations at each other about who is unpatriotic and who has the
> >mojo with respect to the military.
>
Served? Served? Oh, you mean the "Reporting for duty" guy who staked his
presidential bid on his 'Nam service after getting the hell out of there
after completing only four (4) months of his 12-month tour of duty by
racking up 3 little scratches to get his coveted 3 Purple Hearts, leaving
his buddies sweating it out back there?
The male Jane Fonda replica? That guy? Give me a break.
Keith
> to pull strings and get him into the National Guard. The issue has
> nothing to do with patriotism, it's about who's the coward.
>
> >
> >This is despicable, and I urge you, in this forum , not to harass
> >another military veterans mainly, James Harris.
>
> Do you consider Bush a veteran? I consider him a spoiled rich-kid
> draft dodger. As for Harris, I have no information on his service.
>
> >
> >Those who have served and who have suffered for it know the
> >uncalculatable pain of permanent severance of health and of life of
> >those who have been in harms way.
>
> Maybe you know. Did Harris suffer from his service?
>
> >Those who have served also respect the rights of veterans
> >in the United States to entertain their own points of view
> >and to question authority.
>
> And to spew anti-American rhetoric while we are at war?
>
> >
> >You should respect James Harris's right to question authority and to
> >entertain unpopular points of view. This is what we should allow ALL
> >Americans.
> >
> >If you honor our own democratic heritage, you should value that
> >dispensation and to never, NEVER penalize a person , especially a
> >MILITARY person, for having their own view point.
>
> Here's a little something you are probably not aware of. It's the
> Oath of Office of the President of the United States:
>
> "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office
of
> President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability,
preserve,
> protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
>
> Note that the president doesn't swear to protect the country or its
> people. He swears to PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION. You do
> know that the President is the Commander In Chief of the
> Armed Forces? For ANY MILITARY person to advocate the
> abrogation of the Constitution is TREASON!
>
> >
> >I am a mathematical physics PhD. I may return in due course to this
> >forum to discuss professional issues with you all in this discussion
> >group. A pre requisite for me returning though will be a cessation of
> >attacks upon James
>
> Keep dreaming. When Harris learns to behave the forum will
> follow suit.
>
> >and at least a modicum of respect for his veterans status.
>
> Sorry. Veterans who turn traitor don't get no respect. When Harris
> shows sympathy for the future veterans who are suffering in Iraq
> instead of sympathy for terrorists, then maybe he'll get some
> respect.
>
> >Especially on the part of sunshine patriots who have never had
> >the gumption to be potentially or actually in the line of fire.
>
> Look pal, I didn't have a rich daddy to get me into the National
> Guard. I avoided Vietnam the hard way: I won the draft lottery.
>
> >
mensa...@aol.com
Spoken like a true chicken-hawk.
James Harris
No. It shows that sci.math'ers are hateful and vicious.
For a long time many of you got away with claiming that I was making
you hateful and vicious, but it's clear that many of you simply are,
hateful and vicious.
You spew hatred and malice because that is what is in you.
That's why you attacked my friends.
James Harris
Virgil
Brian Quincy Hutchings
before he signed his name to it?
jst...@msn.com (James Harris) wrote in message news:<3c65f87.04091...@posting.google.com>...
> That's why you attacked my friends.
--Swinging in the Swing States?
http://larouchepub.com