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vjp...@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com
Jan 12, 2014, 8:51:36 PM1/12/14
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I could swear the battery I removed was 2023 but when I went to the store
I pulled out a 2032 which might have gotten confused when I looked for
2023. But the 2032 I bought fit into the socket.
The computer in question still has CMOS errors,
so I'm wondering if I popped the wrong battery in.
But it fit perfectly in the socket.
THis is a 1995 Gateway (GW2k) P5-75 CMOS battery.
If it was 2023 I lost the 2023. Are they similar enough? Is there any way to
check which one was used by Gateway? (I had found a completely different one
online when I searched a few months ago which is why I was susprised which
one I found)
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I pulled out a 2032 which might have gotten confused when I looked for
2023. But the 2032 I bought fit into the socket.
The computer in question still has CMOS errors,
so I'm wondering if I popped the wrong battery in.
But it fit perfectly in the socket.
THis is a 1995 Gateway (GW2k) P5-75 CMOS battery.
If it was 2023 I lost the 2023. Are they similar enough? Is there any way to
check which one was used by Gateway? (I had found a completely different one
online when I searched a few months ago which is why I was susprised which
one I found)
- = -
Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist
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jurb...@gmail.com
Jan 12, 2014, 9:02:07 PM1/12/14
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According to the internet they are pretty much the same. An old PC like that might need some manual configuration. I'd pull out pretty much everything and load setup or default values and see what happens. then add stuff one at a time, probably starting with the harddrive.
Jeff Liebermann
Jan 12, 2014, 9:32:17 PM1/12/14
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On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 01:51:36 +0000 (UTC),
vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>I could swear the battery I removed was 2023 but when I went to the store
>I pulled out a 2032 which might have gotten confused when I looked for
>2023. But the 2032 I bought fit into the socket.
>
>The computer in question still has CMOS errors,
>so I'm wondering if I popped the wrong battery in.
>But it fit perfectly in the socket.
>
>THis is a 1995 Gateway (GW2k) P5-75 CMOS battery.
>
>If it was 2023 I lost the 2023. Are they similar enough? Is there any way to
>check which one was used by Gateway? (I had found a completely different one
>online when I searched a few months ago which is why I was susprised which
>one I found)
A CR2032 is 20 mm diameter, 3.2 mm thick, 225ma-hr
vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>I could swear the battery I removed was 2023 but when I went to the store
>I pulled out a 2032 which might have gotten confused when I looked for
>2023. But the 2032 I bought fit into the socket.
>
>The computer in question still has CMOS errors,
>so I'm wondering if I popped the wrong battery in.
>But it fit perfectly in the socket.
>
>THis is a 1995 Gateway (GW2k) P5-75 CMOS battery.
>
>If it was 2023 I lost the 2023. Are they similar enough? Is there any way to
>check which one was used by Gateway? (I had found a completely different one
>online when I searched a few months ago which is why I was susprised which
>one I found)
A CR2025 is 20 mm diameter, 2.5 mm thick, 165ma-hr
There is no CR2023 battery.
Either will fit in a 20 mm dia battery holder.
The only real difference is that the 2025 is thinner and may not make
as solid a connection as the thicker CR2032. You can bend the top +
terminal on the battery holder to compensate. However, I'm fairly
sure your ancient Gateway uses a CR2032 battery and that you bought
and installed the correct battery.
Why it doesn't work is unknown.
Did you install it upside-down? The + goes on top.
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William Sommerwerck
Jan 12, 2014, 9:56:34 PM1/12/14
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I think you misread the number. There is no CR2023, but there is a CR2025.
The difference among these cells is their thickness, which translates into a
difference in capacity. There is nothing wrong with using a higher-capacity
cell than required, unless (as someone else pointed out), it doesn't make
proper contact.
It's a good idea to keep a separate list of the CMOS settings, "just in case"
you have to re-enter values appropriate to your computer. In principle, any
computer should boot with the default settings.
The difference among these cells is their thickness, which translates into a
difference in capacity. There is nothing wrong with using a higher-capacity
cell than required, unless (as someone else pointed out), it doesn't make
proper contact.
It's a good idea to keep a separate list of the CMOS settings, "just in case"
you have to re-enter values appropriate to your computer. In principle, any
computer should boot with the default settings.
Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Jan 12, 2014, 10:49:18 PM1/12/14
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vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> I could swear the battery I removed was 2023 but when I went to the store
> I pulled out a 2032 which might have gotten confused when I looked for
> 2023. But the 2032 I bought fit into the socket.
>
> The computer in question still has CMOS errors,
> so I'm wondering if I popped the wrong battery in.
> But it fit perfectly in the socket.
>
> THis is a 1995 Gateway (GW2k) P5-75 CMOS battery.
>
> If it was 2023 I lost the 2023. Are they similar enough? Is there any way to
> check which one was used by Gateway? (I had found a completely different one
> online when I searched a few months ago which is why I was susprised which
> one I found)
>
There is a CR2025. Many motherboards of that vintage used them, but probably
> I could swear the battery I removed was 2023 but when I went to the store
> I pulled out a 2032 which might have gotten confused when I looked for
> 2023. But the 2032 I bought fit into the socket.
>
> The computer in question still has CMOS errors,
> so I'm wondering if I popped the wrong battery in.
> But it fit perfectly in the socket.
>
> THis is a 1995 Gateway (GW2k) P5-75 CMOS battery.
>
> If it was 2023 I lost the 2023. Are they similar enough? Is there any way to
> check which one was used by Gateway? (I had found a completely different one
> online when I searched a few months ago which is why I was susprised which
> one I found)
>
just as many used the CR2032. They are close enough in size that a
CR2032 will fit in a socket for a CR2025 that is basically a cup with
tabs to hold the battery in and a large flat spring to contact it.
There is a socket that looks like the letter U where the battery slides
down into it, and that is too close a tolerance for a CR2032 to fit.
At this point, if it works, make a label that says CR2032 on it, and stick
it on the motherboard. :-)
Geoff.
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jurb...@gmail.com
Jan 12, 2014, 11:39:23 PM1/12/14
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>"There is no CR2023 battery"
It appears I found a typo on the internet. (oh dear lol)
http://www.large-battery.com/cr2023-computer-bios-battery.html
It appears I found a typo on the internet. (oh dear lol)
http://www.large-battery.com/cr2023-computer-bios-battery.html
stra...@yahoo.com
Jan 13, 2014, 11:44:25 PM1/13/14
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Today we received the 2032 cells from Digikey. 100 pcs Panasonic for $19.25.
Don't pay those horrible drugstore prices.
G²
jurb...@gmail.com
Jan 14, 2014, 1:06:22 AM1/14/14
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Gotta watch where you get them too. I've gotten plenty of them bad outof the box.
Damn industry, they change every other damn thing just for the sake of change, but when it comes to these batteries you could be getitng them after they sat for twenty years, literally.
Damn industry, they change every other damn thing just for the sake of change, but when it comes to these batteries you could be getitng them after they sat for twenty years, literally.
Leif Neland
Jan 14, 2014, 10:06:28 AM1/14/14
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stra...@yahoo.com frembragte:
In the drugstore you also pay for the plastic and cardboard for each
one, and for somebody to restock the pegs with the cardboards, perhaps
for somebody to put pricelabels on each one.
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> Today we received the 2032 cells from Digikey. 100 pcs Panasonic for $19.25.
>
> Don't pay those horrible drugstore prices.
>
I'm not sure they'll work in 20 years when i need the last one.
>
> Don't pay those horrible drugstore prices.
>
In the drugstore you also pay for the plastic and cardboard for each
one, and for somebody to restock the pegs with the cardboards, perhaps
for somebody to put pricelabels on each one.
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Michael Black
Jan 14, 2014, 2:57:33 PM1/14/14
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batteries of that kind, relatively cheap. They may still do, and simply
moved them.
I can get them for fifty cents at a the local outlet of the Big Chain
Hiking store here in Canada. Name brand too. Not absolutely cheap, but
cheap enough. Not every type either. I remember buying some small LED
flashers from the store (intended for bicycle use, but useful as handy
little flashlights since they can be put to a constant on) and thinking
when the button cells died, I'd be buying new flashers, since the
batteries would be as expensive. But the store carries replacement
batteries preciesly for that reason.
For odd batteries, some of the dollar store items can offer up button
cells of various kinds. I was buying 99cent laser pointers for a while to
feed batteries into small clocks and the like I had no problem with the
batteries. But then, I needed some white LEDs for something recently, and
bought a 99cent LED flashlight that offered up 5 white LEDs, Handier than
any other source, probably cheaper too. And it's no wonder those
flashlights often have an LED or two not working; the the LEDs in this
flashlight had one side of the leads twisted together (no solder) and the
other leads hoping to make contact with the case of the flashight for the
return. So it's probably a better source of LEDs than a flashlight.
Michael
vjp...@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com
Jan 15, 2014, 10:40:54 PM1/15/14
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It worked fine. Dunno why I thought it was 2023 (my home address is 2028
so I should have remembered right).
Oy, my eyes are old...
so I should have remembered right).
Oy, my eyes are old...
vjp...@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com
Jan 15, 2014, 10:46:01 PM1/15/14
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Gosh, I wish I knew a place that still made the battery for my 1980 HP2621
terminal. It loses the settings whenever I shut it off. I haven't used it on
a regular basis since 1995, though. But it worked so well. Gold contacts on
the keys, all I had to do was squeeze them with pliers when they acted up.
I should give it up - the glass is peeling and the glue gaps look like mildew.
Not in a big way, though.
terminal. It loses the settings whenever I shut it off. I haven't used it on
a regular basis since 1995, though. But it worked so well. Gold contacts on
the keys, all I had to do was squeeze them with pliers when they acted up.
I should give it up - the glass is peeling and the glue gaps look like mildew.
Not in a big way, though.
Michael Black
Jan 15, 2014, 11:40:42 PM1/15/14
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On Thu, 16 Jan 2014, vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> Gosh, I wish I knew a place that still made the battery for my 1980 HP2621
> terminal. It loses the settings whenever I shut it off. I haven't used it on
> a regular basis since 1995, though. But it worked so well. Gold contacts on
> the keys, all I had to do was squeeze them with pliers when they acted up.
> I should give it up - the glass is peeling and the glue gaps look like mildew.
> Not in a big way, though.
>
So where's the problem?
> Gosh, I wish I knew a place that still made the battery for my 1980 HP2621
> terminal. It loses the settings whenever I shut it off. I haven't used it on
> a regular basis since 1995, though. But it worked so well. Gold contacts on
> the keys, all I had to do was squeeze them with pliers when they acted up.
> I should give it up - the glass is peeling and the glue gaps look like mildew.
> Not in a big way, though.
>
One time I bought a nice LCD desk clock, I liked it a lot, though it was
no more than five dollars. When the button cell died, I was cheap, just
soldered an AA battery to it, which lasted even longer.
That sort of battery isnt' likely to be more than a few volts, so you
could just solder something else in. Uncover what voltage is needed and
then solder an alkaline AA or two in place. At worse, you'll have to
solder in a new pair in a decade or so. You could get fancy, use nicad or
nimh, but then you have to figure out some method of keeping them charged,
hardly worth the effort when the AAs will last so long.
Michael
Kaz Kylheku
Jan 16, 2014, 11:16:24 AM1/16/14
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On 2014-01-16, vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com <vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com> wrote:
> It worked fine. Dunno why I thought it was 2023 (my home address is 2028
> so I should have remembered right).
> Oy, my eyes are old...
That's to say nothing of your motherboard.
> It worked fine. Dunno why I thought it was 2023 (my home address is 2028
> so I should have remembered right).
> Oy, my eyes are old...
Michael A. Terrell
Jan 17, 2014, 8:48:22 PM1/17/14
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jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Gotta watch where you get them too. I've gotten plenty of them bad outof the box.
>
> Damn industry, they change every other damn thing just for the sake of change, but when it comes to these batteries you could be getitng them after they sat for twenty years, literally.
the 2032 is a very popular coin cell.
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Michael A. Terrell
Jan 17, 2014, 9:01:31 PM1/17/14
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vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>
> Gosh, I wish I knew a place that still made the battery for my 1980 HP2621
> terminal. It loses the settings whenever I shut it off. I haven't used it on
> a regular basis since 1995, though. But it worked so well. Gold contacts on
> the keys, all I had to do was squeeze them with pliers when they acted up.
> I should give it up - the glass is peeling and the glue gaps look like mildew.
> Not in a big way, though.
The manual lists a Duracell TR133:
http://www.batterybob.com/product.asp?intProdID=398523
jurb...@gmail.com
Jan 17, 2014, 11:32:13 PM1/17/14
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>"Bullshit. Digikey is a major worldwide electronics distributor, and
the 2032 is a very popular coin cell. "
Wasn't from Digikey. It was a long time ago. Actually I haven't had one go bad in decades.
the 2032 is a very popular coin cell. "
Michael A. Terrell
Jan 18, 2014, 5:14:38 AM1/18/14
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ever sober?
jurb...@gmail.com
Jan 18, 2014, 12:36:44 PM1/18/14
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On Saturday, January 18, 2014 5:14:38 AM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:
> xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote: > > >"Bullshit. Digikey is a major worldwide electronics distributor, and > the 2032 is a very popular coin cell. " > > Wasn't from Digikey. It was a long time ago. Actually I haven't had one go bad in decades. The message you replied to was about buying from Digikey. Are you ever sober? -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
I said that I had gotten bad ones in the past. Someone said something about Digikey and I replied that the bad ones were not from Digikey.
Are YOU sober ? WTF is your problem ?
> xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote: > > >"Bullshit. Digikey is a major worldwide electronics distributor, and > the 2032 is a very popular coin cell. " > > Wasn't from Digikey. It was a long time ago. Actually I haven't had one go bad in decades. The message you replied to was about buying from Digikey. Are you ever sober? -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
I said that I had gotten bad ones in the past. Someone said something about Digikey and I replied that the bad ones were not from Digikey.
Are YOU sober ? WTF is your problem ?
Ian Jackson
Jan 22, 2014, 4:43:14 PM1/22/14
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In message <lavgr8$nj8$1...@reader1.panix.com>,
vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com writes
Just last week I was in a shop, looking for a CR2032 among all the other
batteries. Those on the hook marked CR2032 all appeared to be 2023
(which I've never heard of), shown vertically on the lower right side of
the dual pack. It then spotted CR2032 written horizontally and slightly
smaller, at the top left corner of the pack. I then realised that 2023
was the 'best before' date!
--
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vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com writes
>I could swear the battery I removed was 2023 but when I went to the store
>I pulled out a 2032 which might have gotten confused when I looked for
>2023. But the 2032 I bought fit into the socket.
>
>The computer in question still has CMOS errors,
>so I'm wondering if I popped the wrong battery in.
>But it fit perfectly in the socket.
>
>THis is a 1995 Gateway (GW2k) P5-75 CMOS battery.
>
>If it was 2023 I lost the 2023. Are they similar enough? Is there any way to
>check which one was used by Gateway? (I had found a completely different one
>online when I searched a few months ago which is why I was susprised which
>one I found)
>
Is this thread still active? If so, just a bit of information.
>I pulled out a 2032 which might have gotten confused when I looked for
>2023. But the 2032 I bought fit into the socket.
>
>The computer in question still has CMOS errors,
>so I'm wondering if I popped the wrong battery in.
>But it fit perfectly in the socket.
>
>THis is a 1995 Gateway (GW2k) P5-75 CMOS battery.
>
>If it was 2023 I lost the 2023. Are they similar enough? Is there any way to
>check which one was used by Gateway? (I had found a completely different one
>online when I searched a few months ago which is why I was susprised which
>one I found)
>
Just last week I was in a shop, looking for a CR2032 among all the other
batteries. Those on the hook marked CR2032 all appeared to be 2023
(which I've never heard of), shown vertically on the lower right side of
the dual pack. It then spotted CR2032 written horizontally and slightly
smaller, at the top left corner of the pack. I then realised that 2023
was the 'best before' date!
--
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hrho...@sbcglobal.net
Jan 22, 2014, 9:27:52 PM1/22/14
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You are not the first person to have that sort of confusion
mtfo...@gmail.com
Jan 13, 2017, 5:15:55 PM1/13/17
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There are 2023,2032 and 2025 batteries. My blood test meter calls for 2023. Don't know if the others will work equally well even though they are the same diameter.
M Philbrook
Jan 13, 2017, 5:41:44 PM1/13/17
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In article <8262f4db-c610-4d54...@googlegroups.com>,
mtfo...@gmail.com says...
the thickness in fractional MM>
2023 = 20mm x 2.3 mm thick.
2032 = 20mm x 3.2 mm thick.
the voltages are the same in all, the thicker cells last longer and
provide more current if needed.
you should be able to use the 2032 cell if it isn't too thick to
close the cover.
mtfo...@gmail.com says...
>
> There are 2023,2032 and 2025 batteries. My blood test meter calls for 2023. Don't know if the others will work equally well even though they are the same diameter.
First two digits are the width of the cell in MM, last two digits are
> There are 2023,2032 and 2025 batteries. My blood test meter calls for 2023. Don't know if the others will work equally well even though they are the same diameter.
the thickness in fractional MM>
2023 = 20mm x 2.3 mm thick.
2032 = 20mm x 3.2 mm thick.
the voltages are the same in all, the thicker cells last longer and
provide more current if needed.
you should be able to use the 2032 cell if it isn't too thick to
close the cover.
dansabr...@yahoo.com
Jan 13, 2017, 5:44:59 PM1/13/17
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On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 5:15:55 PM UTC-5, mtfo...@gmail.com wrote:
> There are 2023,2032 and 2025 batteries. My blood test meter calls for 2023. Don't know if the others will work equally well even though they are the same diameter.
The differences are load capacity. See the chart below:
> There are 2023,2032 and 2025 batteries. My blood test meter calls for 2023. Don't know if the others will work equally well even though they are the same diameter.
Voltage Capacity
2023 3V 225mAh
2026 3V 163mAh
2032 3V 210mAh
All other specs are the same.
Dan
Wolfgang Allinger
Jan 13, 2017, 6:35:26 PM1/13/17
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Dan
Robert Roland
Jan 14, 2017, 5:52:17 AM1/14/17
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:44:55 -0800 (PST), dansabr...@yahoo.com
wrote:
typo, maybe? I'd guess 125 mAh would be about right.
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wrote:
>2023 3V 225mAh
>2026 3V 163mAh
>2032 3V 210mAh
That can't be right? The thinnest one has the highest capacity. A
>2026 3V 163mAh
>2032 3V 210mAh
typo, maybe? I'd guess 125 mAh would be about right.
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Baron
Jan 14, 2017, 7:46:17 AM1/14/17
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Robert Roland prodded the keyboard with:
That 2023 is a typo, should be 125mAh
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Jan 14, 2017, 8:39:00 AM1/14/17
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Jan 14, 2017, 8:39:19 AM1/14/17
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this mistake!
Mr. Man-wai Chang
Jan 14, 2017, 8:41:53 AM1/14/17
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On 14/1/2017 7:36 AM, Wolfgang Allinger wrote:
>
> Nope! Look for the thickness 2.3 2.6 and 3.2 mm!!!!
>
Thickness is usually a reflection of capacity!
>
> Nope! Look for the thickness 2.3 2.6 and 3.2 mm!!!!
>
Wolfgang Allinger
Jan 14, 2017, 12:12:56 PM1/14/17
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On 14 Jan 17 at group /sci/electronics/repair in article o5d9nv$913$7...@dont-email.me
<toylet...@gmail.com> (Mr. Man-wai Chang) wrote:
> On 14/1/2017 7:36 AM, Wolfgang Allinger wrote:
>>
>> Nope! Look for the thickness 2.3 2.6 and 3.2 mm!!!!
>>
> Thickness is usually a reflection of capacity!
so you also think, that price is a reflection of qualtiy SHRUGGGH
> On 14/1/2017 7:36 AM, Wolfgang Allinger wrote:
>>
>> Nope! Look for the thickness 2.3 2.6 and 3.2 mm!!!!
>>
> Thickness is usually a reflection of capacity!
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