Lunar landing hoax? What about manned mission to Mars?
Rev Fredric L. Rice
Moon for some reason. What about the planned manned mission to Mars? When
that happens, are they going to also demand that's a hoax?
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karen
> So a few unsalted nuts want to pretend that humanity hasn't landed on the
> Moon for some reason. What about the planned manned mission to Mars? When
> that happens, are they going to also demand that's a hoax?
Hi ,
Well from what I saw recently I doubt we'll be going anywhere in
space very fast, certainly not to Mars. Manned mission that is!.
Probably go back to the Moon befor Mars
Regards
Karen
Trakar
Rice) wrote:
>So a few unsalted nuts want to pretend that humanity hasn't landed on the
>Moon for some reason. What about the planned manned mission to Mars? When
>that happens, are they going to also demand that's a hoax?
Unless they turn up an ancient or current Martian civ,....probably!
;)
Hit1Hard
>
> Moon for some reason. What about the planned manned mission to Mars? When
> that happens, are they going to also demand that's a hoax?
>
If the "proof" needed to justify the claim being on another object in
the sky is not supplied.
Then yes, there is chance that that claim would be "another" hoax.
I rather am an unsalted nut, then pretending to be an almond.
Hit1Hard.
Hit1Hard
>
> "Rev Fredric L. Rice" wrote:
>
> > So a few unsalted nuts want to pretend that humanity hasn't landed on the
> > Moon for some reason. What about the planned manned mission to Mars? When
> > that happens, are they going to also demand that's a hoax?
>
> Hi ,
> Well from what I saw recently I doubt we'll be going anywhere in
> space very fast, certainly not to Mars. Manned mission that is!.
What exactly did you see recently? (That make you doubt.)
>
> Probably go back to the Moon befor Mars
>
> Regards
> Karen
>
> >
> >
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Hit1Hard.
Jim Phillips
> So a few unsalted nuts want to pretend that humanity hasn't landed on the
> Moon for some reason. What about the planned manned mission to Mars? When
> that happens, are they going to also demand that's a hoax?
Never mind that--which missions landed laser (or radar) reflectors
on Mars, and which ones landed impact missions on Jovian moons? There
seems to be a conspiracy afoot to hide these from everyone else but you,
so I was hoping you could fill the rest of us in on the details.
--
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"If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin
karen
> karen wrote:
> >
> > "Rev Fredric L. Rice" wrote:
> >
> > > So a few unsalted nuts want to pretend that humanity hasn't landed on the
> > > Moon for some reason. What about the planned manned mission to Mars? When
> > > that happens, are they going to also demand that's a hoax?
> >
> > Hi ,
> > Well from what I saw recently I doubt we'll be going anywhere in
> > space very fast, certainly not to Mars. Manned mission that is!.
>
> What exactly did you see recently? (That make you doubt.)
Hi,
Just a program about manned missions to Mars.....others in
the uk must have seen it on Monday.....
The radiation problems for a start.....then you have the long journey
times. By the time they get to mars they are probably going to be
so weak cos of lack of gravity on the trip that they will probably be
unable to walk or do very much else when they got there.
Then you have the logistics of the flight. Food supplies...water suplies...
one thing that came across so vividly was that we just dont have
the means to do it safely. Such a mission would have to succeed
for nasa to justify it. I dont believe nasa would undertake the
mission unles it was 99.99% sure it could get the men or women
back. Apollo was a risk.....but worth taking for the cold war.
We dont have that cold war anymore so the political will to
give nasa the required funds to do it is not there.
The only alternative would be to send people who have no
real ties back on earth...family etc....older astronauts who
dont mind if they get killed by radiation on the way or on
the way back or killed by some mission failure.
Dont forget.....were not talking of a two day trip to the moon here,
it's a completelty different set of circumstances. One which
I dont think were capable of doing in the near future.
With apollo we were able to test the ground so to speak with
apollo's 1 through 10, can you really see that happening in
the near future with mars....I can't
Regards
Karen
Antti Luode
Shows.. Sell magazines.. Little wonder, many bad fiction writers do
conspiracy
theories.. Maybe I should give it a try too.. Hmm.. What could be a good
subject.. Hey.. I got one..
"Moon is a lost golf ball!"
Just think about it for a while, okay? Just give it a chance..
Everybody knows how many golf balls get lost each year.. It could happen..
I mean.. I've heard about this thing called 'quantum tunneling',
how electrons just jump from one state to the other.. So maybe,
the used golf balls do the same.. Maybe they, just jump from the
hole eighteen to the earth orbit.. So basically.. The whole solar system
could be made of lost golf balls.. And maybe even the stars?
Just imagine if I am right.. All those golf balls.. On the sky..
I wonder how they shine? The golf balls.. Can a golf ball
initiate a fusion reaction inside it? If it is big enough.. Heck..
Maybe... There is such a thing as... Golf fusion..
Antti
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Rod Mollise
>Hi ,
> Well from what I saw recently I doubt we'll be going anywhere in
>space very fast, certainly not to Mars. Manned mission that is!.
>
>Probably go back to the Moon befor Mars
Hi:
Well, Karen, I guess it depends on what you mean by "soon"...I'm guessing it
_might_ happen within 20 years. As for going back to the Moon...uh-uh. I doubt
it. Unless there's a sudden change, the folk at NASA are of the opinion that it
would be difficult to arouse public interest in a return to the Moon ("been
there, done that"). Before anything can happen, though, a suitable cure for the
money-sucking of the ISS must be found...
:-)
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>
> The radiation problems for a start.....then you have the long journey
> times. By the time they get to mars they are probably going to be
> so weak cos of lack of gravity on the trip that they will probably be
> unable to walk or do very much else when they got there.
> Then you have the logistics of the flight. Food supplies...water suplies...
> real ties back on earth...family etc....older astronauts who
> dont mind if they get killed by radiation on the way or on
> the way back or killed by some mission failure.
Hello Karen,
You are probably right on all or most of the points, but it is exciting
to think about it, isn't it? What an enterprise that would be!
Frankly, I believe it's our future and destiny to do so. (I recently
came across Pale Blue Dot by Carl Sagan :-)
Esmail
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William
makes these "hoax" and "conspiracy" theories pop up and spread so well: the
desire to sell magazines, books, newspapers, and air time. IOW, the desire
to get an audience and make money.
william
Rod Mollise
>one thing that came across so vividly was that we just dont have
>the means to do it safely.
Hi:
I disagree. What's lacking is the will on our parts.
Alson Wong
news:20010325163235...@ng-co1.aol.com...
> Hi:
>
> Well, Karen, I guess it depends on what you mean by "soon"...I'm guessing
it
> _might_ happen within 20 years. As for going back to the Moon...uh-uh. I
doubt
> it. Unless there's a sudden change, the folk at NASA are of the opinion
that it
> would be difficult to arouse public interest in a return to the Moon
("been
> there, done that"). Before anything can happen, though, a suitable cure
for the
> money-sucking of the ISS must be found...
> :-)
The cure will come when it meets the same fate as Mir, and not before then.
The ISS will become too politically important to have its funding restricted
in favor of solar system exploration.
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Rev Fredric L. Rice
>karen wrote:
>> "Rev Fredric L. Rice" wrote:
>>> So a few unsalted nuts want to pretend that humanity hasn't landed on the
>>> Moon for some reason. What about the planned manned mission to Mars? When
>>> that happens, are they going to also demand that's a hoax?
>> Hi ,
>> Well from what I saw recently I doubt we'll be going anywhere in
>> space very fast, certainly not to Mars. Manned mission that is!.
>What exactly did you see recently? (That make you doubt.)
A decline in funding and size of the Freedom space station may be part of
the indication of humanity's lowered prioritization of a manned Mars mission.
The Harlequin Grendel
>> So a few unsalted nuts want to pretend that humanity hasn't landed on the
>> Moon for some reason. What about the planned manned mission to Mars?
'Someday, maybe in 2030, we'll go to Mars'.
> Never mind that--which missions landed laser (or radar) reflectors
>on Mars,
...well, now there's definition of fucking pointless, although I admit
it might be fun to try.
>and which ones landed impact missions on Jovian moons?
Um, Voyager 6? (Gold star to the first on to get the reference!)
>There seems to be a conspiracy afoot to hide these from everyone else but
>you, so I was hoping you could fill the rest of us in on the details.
It's all DOLF BOEK's fault. He put in a teeny-tiny little table in
the middle of the page.
ash
['I read it in the SODOMITE PROPHECY!']
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Esmail Bonakdarian
>
> Before anything can happen, though, a suitable cure for the
> money-sucking of the ISS must be found...
There seems to be a general feeling against the ISS. Why is that? Doesn't
it offer a start to a practical platform for testing techniques and
methods for sustaining human life in space for long durations? In my
opinion that was one of MIR great triumphs.
This knowledge would be a requirement for space exploration.
Are the objections based on management/financial issues, or the idea
of having a space station in earth orbit?
Personally, I find the idea of human space exploration very exciting
(I'd go up to the ISS in a heartbeat), and while I realize that a lot
of initial exploration can and should be done by machines (cheaper and
safer), eventually humans would venture out into further regions of space.
For that, it would seem, experience gathered on the ISS would be useful,
it would be a start.
karen
Hi,
I would love nothing more than to be told I was wrong.
I would love to see man walk on Mars before I die......
Give me some reason to believe it could happen....please Nasa...
Regards
Karen
Esmail Bonakdarian
>
> I would love to see man walk on Mars before I die......
How young are you? Personally, I'm shooting for triple digits, so I'm
hopeful :-)
John Beaderstadt
> The ISS will become too politically important to have its funding restricted
> in favor of solar system exploration.
Why do you think it's an "either-or" proposition? Why do you think ISS bears no
relation to the rest of space exploration? Last I heard, for example, we still
are unable to reliably grow crops in microgravity (necessary for the
regeneration of oxygen on interplanetary flights); where do you propose we
experiment with technique, on the way to Mars? Where do you propose we develop
microgravity cardiovascular and muscular maintenance therapy, in a swimming
pool? Do you really think that "solar system exploration" requires no
preparation other than getting a spacecraft out of LEO?
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karen
> karen wrote:
> >
> > I would love to see man walk on Mars before I die......
>
> How young are you? Personally, I'm shooting for triple digits, so I'm
> hopeful :-)
I'm always hopeful.....I would love to reach tripple digiits...
as to how old I am....well....I'm twenty one of course..ha.....
Regards
Karen
Rod Mollise
>The ISS will become too politically important to have its funding restricted
>in favor of solar system exploration.
>--
>Alson Wong
Hi Alson:
I hesitated to say this, but you're exactly right, I fear...
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Eric Prebys
"Rev Fredric L. Rice" wrote:
>
> So a few unsalted nuts want to pretend that humanity hasn't landed on the
> Moon for some reason. What about the planned manned mission to Mars? When
> that happens, are they going to also demand that's a hoax?
>
Of that we can be certain!! There are already many kooks claiming
that the Pathfinder landing was faked (and presumably the Viking
landing as well). I recall seeing a TV show about it, but haven't
found much buzz on the web.
I think the reason that it's less popular than the fake moon landing
is that it's become much for fashionable for the fringe to claim that
Pathfinder DID land, and now NASA is busy covering up evidence of alien
civilizations (there are LOTS of websites about that). What
nobody has managed to explain is why NASA would ever cover up something
that would guarantee them decades of unlimited funding - except of
course that they're just plain nasty SOB's who'll cover up anything
just to keep us from having fun, even if they lose billions of
dollars in the process.
-Eric
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paghat
over the damned place, only problem is, they're ENORMOUS. I don't think
any astronauts have ever been here. Just Bigfoots.
-paghat the ratgirl
Joe Bergeron
rmol...@aol.com (Rod Mollise) wrote:
> >
> >Hi ,
> > Well from what I saw recently I doubt we'll be going anywhere in
> >space very fast, certainly not to Mars. Manned mission that is!.
> >
> >Probably go back to the Moon befor Mars
>
> Hi:
>
> Well, Karen, I guess it depends on what you mean by "soon"...I'm guessing it
> _might_ happen within 20 years. As for going back to the Moon...uh-uh. I doubt
> it. Unless there's a sudden change, the folk at NASA are of the opinion
that it
> would be difficult to arouse public interest in a return to the Moon ("been
> there, done that"). Before anything can happen, though, a suitable cure
for the
> money-sucking of the ISS must be found...
> :-)
>
I don't think we'll be sending anyone to Mars as long as we have to fart
our way there with chemical rockets. Too slow, too finicky, too weak, too
clumsy.
As for the ISS, I was thinking a good use for it would have been to try to
hit that taco target again.
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David W Knisely
> There seems to be a general feeling against the ISS. Why is that? Doesn't
> it offer a start to a practical platform for testing techniques and
> methods for sustaining human life in space for long durations? In my
> opinion that was one of MIR great triumphs.
>
quite frankly, is accurate to some degree. The Russian biomedical
records from Mir (and our own more limited results from the 84 day
Skylab mission) show what happens to humans in microgravity, so why are
we repeating this? As far as Earth observation, again, unmanned
satellites can do this for a small fraction of the cost of doing it from
ISS (and at zero risk to human life). Manufacturing and materials
research can also be done either from the Space Shuttle's payload bay,
or on less expensive unmanned free flying platforms periodically
serviced by the Shuttle. For Astronomy, the space station is a less
than ideal environment compared to something like HST (ie: no one moving
around or operating other machinery next to a telescope to induce
vibration or contamination of the optics). People simply aren't needed
up there UNLESS we are committed to a manned Mars mission and are
actually testing the same hardware which will definitely be used on such
a mission. This has not happened. ISS is very expensive for what
benefit it provides, and its more a political project than a high return
research one. Personally, from a pure scientific standpoint, the
Superconducting Supercollider project should have been the one to get
the funding, and the space station should have gotten the axe. I wish
them luck up there, and will follow what is going on with some interest,
but I would have rather spent the money on a full-fleged multi-probe
project for Mars (ie: some orbiters, and a lot of landers, rovers, and a
sample return mission) or the moon than on ISS. Clear skies to
you.
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NASA can't admit to the aliens because the aliens appeared in huge numbers
and massive space ships, at Tranquility Base, to warn Armstrong (and NASA)
off. That's why
a) Armstrong is so reclusive
b) NASA keep putting off manned Mars missions. If we try to play in the
domain of the godlike aliens, they may stomp our skinny earthling butts.
At least that was the reason last I heard. Conspiracies... doncha just love
em?
(How this fits in with US government technological collaboration with the
aliens at Area 51 is beyond me, tho)
;)
Jax
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DrPostman
>So a few unsalted nuts want to pretend that humanity hasn't landed on the
>Moon for some reason. What about the planned manned mission to Mars? When
>that happens, are they going to also demand that's a hoax?
Not if we insist that they take Hoagland with them,
and leave him there.
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Fre...@liberty.com
>So a few unsalted nuts want to pretend that humanity hasn't landed on the
>Moon for some reason.
Because a few Manipulative, Sneaky Lying Hoaxers of a Thoroughly
Corrupt Regime insist on Pretending that they have.
>What about the planned manned mission to Mars?
What about the Planned 'extraterrestrial alien' 'attack' of Earth?
"Some one remarked that the best way to unite all the
nations on this globe would be an attack from some
other planet. In the face of such an alien enemy,
people would respond with a sense of their unity of
interest and purpose."
--- John Dewey 1917
"In our obsession with antagonisms of the moment, we
often forget how much unites all the members of
humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal
threat to make us realize this common bond. I
occasionally think how quickly our differences would
vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside
this world."
--- President Ronald Reagan,
in a speech made to the 42nd General Assembly of the
United Nations, Sept. 21, 1987
He inserted it in eight speeches during his time in
office.
>When
>that happens, are they going to also demand that's a hoax?
When the Hoax happens, of course.
Rev Fredric L. Rice
>Gawd, don't you know anything? :)
>NASA can't admit to the aliens because the aliens appeared in huge numbers
>and massive space ships, at Tranquility Base, to warn Armstrong (and NASA)
>off. That's why
And NASA would provide the evidence nutters have been needing to prove
that such technologies as photocopiers, computers, FAX machines et al.
are alien technology.
Rev Fredric L. Rice
>On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 05:47:53 GMT, fr...@spinics.net (Rev Fredric L.
>Rice) wrote:
>>So a few unsalted nuts want to pretend that humanity hasn't landed on the
>>Moon for some reason. What about the planned manned mission to Mars? When
>>that happens, are they going to also demand that's a hoax?
>Not if we insist that they take Hoagland with them,
>and leave him there.
"Sit on a happy face." We can drop him from orbit into the left eye of
his "Face on Mars."
Jonathan Silverlight
paghat <spammersD...@my-deja.com> writes
>Hi all! I'm up here on the moon using my laptop. There are footprints all
>over the damned place, only problem is, they're ENORMOUS. I don't think
>any astronauts have ever been here. Just Bigfoots.
>
Not Bigfoots (Bigfeet ?). Didn't you see that Night Gallery episode that
ends with the astronaut finding a mousetrap?
Jonathan Silverlight
<pre...@princeton.edu> writes
>
>
>"Rev Fredric L. Rice" wrote:
>>
>> So a few unsalted nuts want to pretend that humanity hasn't landed on the
>> Moon for some reason. What about the planned manned mission to Mars? When
>> that happens, are they going to also demand that's a hoax?
>>
>
>Of that we can be certain!! There are already many kooks claiming
>that the Pathfinder landing was faked (and presumably the Viking
>landing as well). I recall seeing a TV show about it, but haven't
>found much buzz on the web.
Wasn't the Viking story based on a story that the cameras could only
focus on things within a few feet (i.e. film studio size) ? They had
forgotten about the sunset image, or perhaps that was faked too.
DrPostman
Rice) wrote:
>DrPostman <I...@mysig.emailthere> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 05:47:53 GMT, fr...@spinics.net (Rev Fredric L.
>>Rice) wrote:
>
>>>So a few unsalted nuts want to pretend that humanity hasn't landed on the
>>>Moon for some reason. What about the planned manned mission to Mars? When
>>>that happens, are they going to also demand that's a hoax?
>
>>Not if we insist that they take Hoagland with them,
>>and leave him there.
>
>"Sit on a happy face." We can drop him from orbit into the left eye of
>his "Face on Mars."
Actually there is a happy face on Mars we can drop him on.
(the hoaglanites go silent over this image)
http://www.msss.com/education/happy_face/happy_face.html
wilkins
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 03:53:41 GMT, fr...@spinics.net (Rev Fredric L.
> Rice) wrote:
>
> >DrPostman <I...@mysig.emailthere> wrote:
> >
> >>On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 05:47:53 GMT, fr...@spinics.net (Rev Fredric L.
> >>Rice) wrote:
> >
> >>>So a few unsalted nuts want to pretend that humanity hasn't landed on the
> >>>Moon for some reason. What about the planned manned mission to Mars? When
> >>>that happens, are they going to also demand that's a hoax?
> >
> >>Not if we insist that they take Hoagland with them,
> >>and leave him there.
> >
> >"Sit on a happy face." We can drop him from orbit into the left eye of
> >his "Face on Mars."
>
>
> Actually there is a happy face on Mars we can drop him on.
> (the hoaglanites go silent over this image)
> http://www.msss.com/education/happy_face/happy_face.html
>
>
It's proof!! Forrest Gump was from Mars (I always suspected as much).
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HAHA! Sucker! I was up there the other day with FAKE WOODEN BIGFEET
stamps.
ash
['If you had seen them from the sky you'd realize they spell out VAX ME!']
The Harlequin Grendel
>I claim my gold star
{WHAM!} Gold Star stamped on the forehead.
Hope that didn't hurt.
>and sad Trekkie award all at the same time.
There's a lot of those.
>Star Trek, The Motion Picture. V'Ger was, of course, Voyager 6.
Ya think Voyager 6 had an impact sensor?
ash
['More importantly, did they put a prize from a box of Cracker Jacks inside?']
Joann Evans
>
> So a few unsalted nuts want to pretend that humanity hasn't landed on the
> Moon for some reason. What about the planned manned mission to Mars? When
> that happens, are they going to also demand that's a hoax?
Count on plenty of people watching closely, just *because* it's the
first mission to Mars. Indeed, they may even have an amaetur radio
station aboard (as has been the case on some shuttle missions, Mir and
will be true on ISS*) where virtually any ham with EME capability (or
possibly less) will be able to keep in touch, monitor a beacon, perhaps
even simulcast their video at times on ATV. And they *will* be mindful
of antenna tracking, and speed of light delays. All this will not be to
satisfy skeptics, but for enhancing PR. And again, just about as hard to
fake as to actually do.
I've not actually seen this, but according to something SF writer
Harlan Ellison worte some time back, in the movie 'Capricorn One' which
is *about* a faked Mars mission, is NASA actually credited at the end
for providing technical assistance? If so, I'm still astounded. The DoD,
for example, (and understandably) only assists film projects that paint
them in a good light. 'Top Gun,' for example, but not 'Apocalypse Now.'
Joann Evans
>
> karen wrote:
> >
> > "Rev Fredric L. Rice" wrote:
> >
> > > So a few unsalted nuts want to pretend that humanity hasn't landed on the
> > > Moon for some reason. What about the planned manned mission to Mars? When
> > > that happens, are they going to also demand that's a hoax?
> >
> > Well from what I saw recently I doubt we'll be going anywhere in
> > space very fast, certainly not to Mars. Manned mission that is!.
>
Come spend some time at news:sci.space.policy and
news:sci.space.tech and see....
Joann Evans
>
> "Rev Fredric L. Rice" wrote:
> >
> > So a few unsalted nuts want to pretend that humanity hasn't landed on the
> > Moon for some reason. What about the planned manned mission to Mars? When
> > that happens, are they going to also demand that's a hoax?
> >
>
> Of that we can be certain!! There are already many kooks claiming
> that the Pathfinder landing was faked (and presumably the Viking
> landing as well). I recall seeing a TV show about it, but haven't
> found much buzz on the web.
>
> I think the reason that it's less popular than the fake moon landing
> is that it's become much for fashionable for the fringe to claim that
> Pathfinder DID land, and now NASA is busy covering up evidence of alien
> civilizations (there are LOTS of websites about that). What
> nobody has managed to explain is why NASA would ever cover up something
> that would guarantee them decades of unlimited funding - except of
> course that they're just plain nasty SOB's who'll cover up anything
> just to keep us from having fun, even if they lose billions of
> dollars in the process.
Hear freaking hear! That would be the absolute *best* reason to go!
Yet conspiracists would have us believe that if the 'truth' got out,
there'd be world-wide panic and crap.
The sad truth is that Joe Public's reaction would be something like:
"Okay, so there are alien ruins on Mars. So?"
karen
Where are all these freaky people comming from?....what has alt.fan.art-bell
got to do with this ng?........why you posting here.
KILLFILED!!
Karen
Clave
news:3AC4FDBF...@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk...
<...>
> Where are all these freaky people comming from?....what has alt.fan.art-bell
> got to do with this ng?........why you posting here.
If I had to guess why they're posting to your group, I'd guess that they're
just as lazy/ignorant as *you* seem to be about setting followups.
> KILLFILED!!
Yeah, like they're gonna miss *you.*
Are you always this crabby, or is it just "that time?"
Jim
karen
Hi,
For your last remark,........I have reported you to ab...@gte.net
Have anice day
Karen
Jonathan Silverlight
<bon...@frontiernet.net> writes
> I've not actually seen this, but according to something SF writer
>Harlan Ellison worte some time back, in the movie 'Capricorn One' which
>is *about* a faked Mars mission, is NASA actually credited at the end
>for providing technical assistance? If so, I'm still astounded. The DoD,
>for example, (and understandably) only assists film projects that paint
>them in a good light. 'Top Gun,' for example, but not 'Apocalypse Now.'
On the video I just checked the only government body credited is the
Department of the Interior.
Spamster
karen wrote:
Yawn.
Trakar
<ka...@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, like they're gonna miss *you.*
>>
>> Are you always this crabby, or is it just "that time?"
>>
>> Jim
>
>Hi,
> For your last remark,........I have reported you to ab...@gte.net
>
>Have anice day
>Karen
Guess that answers that question!
Hit1Hard
Total 2100 posts.. there goes the weekend.. ;)
Hit1Hard.
Cathy Credulous
For your stupidity,....you have been reported to Fluffy.
Have a nice day.
--
love from Cathy
*do...@diddydidy.com*
<disinf...@disinfo.net> wrote:
> "karen" <ka...@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3AC505F5...@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk...
> > Clave wrote:
> >
> > > "karen" <ka...@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:3AC4FDBF...@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk...
> > >
> > > <...>
> > >
> > > > Where are all these freaky people comming from?....what has
> alt.fan.art-bell
> > > > got to do with this ng?........why you posting here.
> > >
> > > If I had to guess why they're posting to your group, I'd guess that
> they're
> > > just as lazy/ignorant as *you* seem to be about setting followups.
> > >
> > > > KILLFILED!!
> > >
> > > Yeah, like they're gonna miss *you.*
> > >
> > > Are you always this crabby, or is it just "that time?"
> > >
> > > Jim
> >
> > Hi,
> > For your last remark,........I have reported you to ab...@gte.net
> >
> > Have anice day
>
> For your stupidity,....you have been reported to Fluffy.
> Have a nice day.
>
> --
> love from Cathy
Tell me you didn't do that to 'em. The Fluffy will eat 'em up.
Did you really need to take such drastic action?
Christ, now we are going to have Fluffy stompin' around creating havoc
all over the place. You would think people would learn by now;-)
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Roger M. Wilcox
>> "karen" <ka...@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:3AC4FDBF...@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk...
>> >
>>
>> Yeah, like they're gonna miss *you.*
>>
>> Are you always this crabby, or is it just "that time?"
>
> For your last remark,........I have reported you to ab...@gte.net
So much for Karen's claim of having "KILLFILED!" this thread....
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