New Teaching Resource - High School Sage Math

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Alex Rodrigues

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Apr 12, 2011, 2:47:26 PM4/12/11
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Hello Sage Math Community,

We are pleased to announce the opening of www.hssagemath.org, which is
a new Sage Math resource website, High School Sage Math. This is a
website designed for High School and Middle School level students and
educators. This site is in its early stages of gathering and
organizing material.

There is a tremendous amount of helpful and essential information
about Sage at www.sagemath.org. However, the information there is
overwhelming in size and sophistication - it is primarily aimed at
university level users. The objective of High School Sage Math is to
provide bite-size Sage resources and lessons that would be useful in a
high school or middle school course.

Have you been working on cool things in Sage? Did you learn something
new today that you think would be helpful to other students or
educators? All you need to do is share your Sage interactive worksheet
on this website. The site is completely free and all that we ask is
that you respect our goal to educate and share resources in High
School and Middle School environments. You are also welcome to improve
on any existing contributions - please feel free to make your changes
or additions and put in your replacement. We encourage everyone to
browse the site, contribute to the wealth of information, and help us
in continuing to grow the Sage Math community.

The site has two overall components, a media wiki and a sage server.
Feel free to browse the media wiki for useful information or to post
your own information. The wiki can be found at hssagemath.org. If you
would like to make contributions to High School Sage Math, please
follow these guidelines:

1. Create a new or revised Sage worksheet (a .sws file) and move it
into an account on the Sage notebook server at nb.hssagemath.org - we
strongly request that you only use this server for file uploading,
downloading, and minimal editing work. If you think that your work is
too complicated for this audience, please dilute it down to a more
manageable level or do not share it here. Keep your file to one
manageable topic - use multiple files for multiple topics.
2. Use the server's "publish" mechanism to give your file a web url.
We request, in the interest of predictable performance, that you
publish your worksheet on nb.hssagemath.org, which is the Sage server
associated with this wiki.
3. Using the link for your file, make one or more entries for your
file under the appropriate topics in this wiki. Put in some brief
descriptive text describing your file. This text is useful as a
heading, and it is also useful for people searching for examples using
a particular tool or covering a particular subject.

Best,
HS Sage Math Dev Team

michel paul

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Apr 12, 2011, 5:37:19 PM4/12/11
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Thank you, thank you, thank you!  This is going to be very useful.

- Michel Paul


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kcrisman

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Apr 13, 2011, 10:56:31 PM4/13/11
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Thanks for announcing this - hopefully this might make it somewhere
onto the resources at the main Sage site. I really like that this is
collecting and *organizing* a lot of information from various Sage
worksheets. We sorely need that, but time is lacking.

One point; have you checked on licensing etc. for all the worksheets
you have posted there? A lot of them seem to be properly licensed,
but quite a few seem to be cribbed off of various sagenb type servers;
there are quite a few by specific authors, too, but no indication as
to whether they are part of the project. Although it's almost certain
they would give permission, still it's best to first ensure that.
(For the record, the one worksheet of mine I found on a quick search
is fine, since it still has the same content and acknowledgments I
needed to make!)

It would be really great to know who the people behind this are;
usually we try hard to be as open as possible about who is sponsoring
and writing what, so it's later clear to whom to attribute things
(among other reasons). But the website has no indications at all.
Based on your name and a quick search, looks like you are a student at
a high school in California - but it's really non-obvious that this
has a connection to that school, etc. We'd like to think they would
be proud of being associated with Sage, in fact ;)

But if this could have a longer-term presence as a resource for those
outside the post-secondary setting, that would be particularly great.
You might want to check out the Sage interact wiki page for resources
that could work well with the secondary context. Good luck!

- kcrisman

Dan Drake

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Apr 13, 2011, 11:27:45 PM4/13/11
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 at 07:56PM -0700, kcrisman wrote:
> One point; have you checked on licensing etc. for all the worksheets
> you have posted there? A lot of them seem to be properly licensed, but
> quite a few seem to be cribbed off of various sagenb type servers;
> there are quite a few by specific authors, too, but no indication as
> to whether they are part of the project.

A related ticket: #8763, which would allow users to set the license
information of a published worksheet, and put computer- and
human-readable license information into the published worksheet. This
would make projects like this one easier to run.

The ticket currently doesn't even have a patch. :( So someone should
work on this!

Dan

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kcrisman

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Apr 14, 2011, 3:09:20 PM4/14/11
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Sounds like fodder for that upcoming Notebook workshop...

michel paul

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Apr 19, 2011, 11:56:48 AM4/19/11
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In looking through this material more thoroughly I've found several of my own worksheets published under someone else's name.  These were things I had put together for my students, and they were meant to be out there in the spirit of sharing resources.  So it's nice to know that someone found them worthwhile, but it is a bit of a strange experience to be reading through something that is clearly your own work but having someone else named as the author.

- Michel Paul


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kcrisman

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Apr 19, 2011, 1:11:55 PM4/19/11
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On Apr 19, 11:56 am, michel paul <mpaul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In looking through this material more thoroughly I've found several of my
> own worksheets published under someone else's name.  These were things I had
> put together for my students, and they were meant to be out there in the
> spirit of sharing resources.  So it's nice to know that someone found them
> worthwhile, but it is a bit of a strange experience to be reading through
> something that is clearly your own work but having someone else named as the
> author.

Which point I've already made to the organizers of the site, in the
hopes of this being resolved. Probably also they were 'published' by
whoever is running the site, and that's just how the Sage NB
identifies authorship if nothing is in the worksheet itself. Since I
often put my own name on the worksheets themselves, it makes it easier
to identify the original author.

Alex Rodrigues

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May 17, 2011, 4:32:37 PM5/17/11
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Michel,

Can you please let me know which worksheets are wrongly published and
I can look into them. They may look as though they are "published" by
a third party but we want to make sure that all credit is given to the
author. This should be obvious by opening the worksheet, but if
something isn't there, please let me know.

On Apr 19, 8:56 am, michel paul <mpaul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In looking through this material more thoroughly I've found several of my
> own worksheets published under someone else's name.  These were things I had
> put together for my students, and they were meant to be out there in the
> spirit of sharing resources.  So it's nice to know that someone found them
> worthwhile, but it is a bit of a strange experience to be reading through
> something that is clearly your own work but having someone else named as the
> author.
>
> - Michel Paul

To all that have expressed interest in the site:
HS Sage Math is still a work in progress that is being built and
developed by a high school in California. There are both students and
teachers working on the project as well. Currently just the developing
staff is posting worksheets onto the site but the end goal would be
for the entire sage community to post on the site.

The reason that some active sage users are seeing their worksheets on
HS Sage Math is because someone on our team has found it helpful in
learning or teaching sage. We want to respect the original authors and
give them all credit for their work but also make them readily
available to the public. If anyone has an issue with their worksheet
being published, please send me an email @ ad...@hssagemath.org and we
can take it down. The wiki is also public so you can delete your
worksheet if you are not happy that it is published but we would like
to know about that activity.

Lastly, we encourage all active users to use this site. If you have
been working on something that is not readily available for the sage
community, please request an account on our sage servers and start
publishing. Email or post any further questions!

best,
Alex

michel paul

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May 17, 2011, 11:06:20 PM5/17/11
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On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Alex Rodrigues <imac...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
>Can you please let me know which worksheets are wrongly published and
>I can look into them.

Sure, I'll send you a list as soon as I get a chance to look through it again.  Thanks for letting me know.  Everything's good.

>They may look as though they are "published" by a third party

Right, it's all clear.  At the time I created the worksheets I didn't put my name on the pages themselves, simply because I didn't think of it.  They were just things I was creating for my students.

>but we want to make sure that all credit is given to the author.
>This should be obvious by opening the worksheet,

Right.  This wiki is a great idea.  Thanks to everyone doing it.

- Michel

Matthew Rennekamp

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Jan 23, 2017, 4:41:48 PM1/23/17
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