external parties - what is the correct approach when they can't be found by searching NLA?

[Christopher McAvaney]

G'day,

This could be a stupid question, but what the heck.

We have a data record I am assisting our Library with curating and there is an external creator that we would like to attach to the record.
But when we search NLA we can't find a match.

So, what is the approach to have them (external creators) curate correctly?
I must be missing something.

Regards,
Christopher

[Andrew Brazzatti]

Hi Christopher,

I'm not sure on what the best practice on this would be but in the latest version of ReDBox (version 1.9) the form has the ability to:

1. search for ORCIDs (it's another tab in the search dialog). This unfortunately isn't as nice to use as we'd like it to be as the owner of the ORCID has a lot of control over what metadata is publicly exposed and many of the records have little more than the person's name but if you can select the right identifier it should be sent through correctly to RDA.
   
2. enter an identifier for the party in a free text field

I guess using the ORCID would be the better identifier to use but if the external creator is already present in Research Data Australia with a local identifier, then you could copy that value and paste it into the form. 

Thanks,

Andrew

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[Kerry Levett]

Hi Christopher

From ANDS' perspective, Andrew's suggestion of using an ORCID as the identifier is best practice. 

You can connect this researcher to a collection via relatedInfo with an appropriate relation, and their name will show up under the title with other parties that have been linked to the collection via relatedObject.

You can also use a local identifier for the party, but we strongly suggest also including a globally unique, persistent identifier, and most of these (ResearcherID, Scopus ID etc) seem to point to ORCID.

(I've cc'ed Kathryn in on this in case you have any more questions).

Regards

Kerry

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On 29 May 2017 at 12:04, Andrew Brazzatti <and...@redboxresearchdata.com.au> wrote:

Hi Christopher,

I'm not sure on what the best practice on this would be but in the latest version of ReDBox (version 1.9) the form has the ability to:

1. search for ORCIDs (it's another tab in the search dialog). This unfortunately isn't as nice to use as we'd like it to be as the owner of the ORCID has a lot of control over what metadata is publicly exposed and many of the records have little more than the person's name but if you can select the right identifier it should be sent through correctly to RDA.
   
2. enter an identifier for the party in a free text field

I guess using the ORCID would be the better identifier to use but if the external creator is already present in Research Data Australia with a local identifier, then you could copy that value and paste it into the form. 

Thanks,

Andrew

[Christopher McAvaney]

G'day Kerry,

Thanks for that info.
My question specifically relates to ReDBox as that tool is how we generate the RIF-CS that is harvested by RDA.
So, if there isn't a way to get those identifiers in place via the ReDBox user interface, it becomes a problem.

Regards,
Christopher

On Monday, 29 May 2017 12:51:48 UTC+10, Kerry Levett wrote:

Hi Christopher

From ANDS' perspective, Andrew's suggestion of using an ORCID as the identifier is best practice. 

You can connect this researcher to a collection via relatedInfo with an appropriate relation, and their name will show up under the title with other parties that have been linked to the collection via relatedObject.

You can also use a local identifier for the party, but we strongly suggest also including a globally unique, persistent identifier, and most of these (ResearcherID, Scopus ID etc) seem to point to ORCID.

(I've cc'ed Kathryn in on this in case you have any more questions).

Regards

Kerry

Kerry Levett 
Research Data Consultant | Australian National Data Service
T: +61 8 7228 6233 | E:  kerry....@ands.org.au | W:  ands.org.au 

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On 29 May 2017 at 12:04, Andrew Brazzatti <and...@redboxresearchdata.com.au> wrote:

Hi Christopher,

I'm not sure on what the best practice on this would be but in the latest version of ReDBox (version 1.9) the form has the ability to:

1. search for ORCIDs (it's another tab in the search dialog). This unfortunately isn't as nice to use as we'd like it to be as the owner of the ORCID has a lot of control over what metadata is publicly exposed and many of the records have little more than the person's name but if you can select the right identifier it should be sent through correctly to RDA.
   
2. enter an identifier for the party in a free text field

I guess using the ORCID would be the better identifier to use but if the external creator is already present in Research Data Australia with a local identifier, then you could copy that value and paste it into the form. 

Thanks,

Andrew

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Christopher McAvaney <christophe...@deakin.edu.au> wrote:

G'day,

This could be a stupid question, but what the heck.

We have a data record I am assisting our Library with curating and there is an external creator that we would like to attach to the record.
But when we search NLA we can't find a match.

So, what is the approach to have them (external creators) curate correctly?
I must be missing something.

Regards,
Christopher

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[Christopher McAvaney]

G'day Andrew,

Is that demo of v1.9 up to test this concept?
I missed the window when that was up a while back.

Regards,
Christopher

On Monday, 29 May 2017 12:34:31 UTC+10, andrew wrote:

Hi Christopher,

I'm not sure on what the best practice on this would be but in the latest version of ReDBox (version 1.9) the form has the ability to:

1. search for ORCIDs (it's another tab in the search dialog). This unfortunately isn't as nice to use as we'd like it to be as the owner of the ORCID has a lot of control over what metadata is publicly exposed and many of the records have little more than the person's name but if you can select the right identifier it should be sent through correctly to RDA.
   
2. enter an identifier for the party in a free text field

I guess using the ORCID would be the better identifier to use but if the external creator is already present in Research Data Australia with a local identifier, then you could copy that value and paste it into the form. 

Thanks,

Andrew

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Christopher McAvaney <christophe...@deakin.edu.au> wrote:

G'day,

This could be a stupid question, but what the heck.

We have a data record I am assisting our Library with curating and there is an external creator that we would like to attach to the record.
But when we search NLA we can't find a match.

So, what is the approach to have them (external creators) curate correctly?
I must be missing something.

Regards,
Christopher

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[Andrew Brazzatti]

Hi Christopher,

Apologies the environment was down but we've brought it back up for you to have a look at. it's now running on the standard demo url http://demo.redboxresearchdata.com.au/redbox/default/home

In the new interface you'll notice the lookup dialog has a ORCID tab where you can search for a person by name

Or you can enter an identifier directly using the "enter text" link under the lookup link

Thanks,
Andrew
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[Christopher McAvaney]

Apologies - what are the login credentials for the demo site again?
Thanks,
Christopher

[Andrew Brazzatti]

Hi Christopher,

You can use the following:

username: admin

password: rbadmin

Thanks,

Andrew

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[Christopher McAvaney]

Thanks.

Feedback on the lookup widget.
The details link should open a new window/tab and not load over the edit screen, otherwise the user looses context and potential unsaved changes.

Regards,
Christopher