Unloading heavy saws from delivery trucks?
Michael Young
going to move the 200+ lbs of stuff off the back of the delivery truck.
Certainly not everyone has a neighbor with a fork-lift! Rent a hand truck
and roll it down a ramp? Who supplies the ramp? Rent a fork-lift for the
occassion? (And have some other fun while you wait for delivery!) Block &
tackle? Affixed to what? Friends or neighbors with healthy backs, on a
weekday? Hire day-laborers for the job?
How did _you_ do it?
Mike.
Jim Mc Namara ~ Future Collectibles
feet to the bed of the truck. Backed it up the driveway and opened it from
there. (some assembly required.) <g>
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jssnow
can jockey the package off, it's only 200 lbs) if it's too heavy to jockey
into the gara..uh, shop, you can open it and take individual pieces in. I
did the same with a very heavy drill press. Took it apart in my truck and
reassembled it in the gara...uh, shop (dang, said it again!).
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Rob V
and *most* will help you get it off the truck on to the dolly.
Just make sure you have the place where you want it to go ready. Get it off
the truck and dolly it right there.
The driver will not help you down stairs, but if its in the garage or around
back in the basement - it shouldnt be that big of a deal.
Worst comes to worst - offer the guy 20 bucks for some help.
Also - ask to keep the palley it was shipped on. Sometime they make for
good scraps.
Good Luck
-Rob
DCM
likely have forklift. Unpack and move in pice by piece. Yeah, heavy
sometimes but satisfactory though!
DCM
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Dallasburg
>likely have forklift. Unpack and move in pice by piece. Yeah, heavy
>sometimes but satisfactory though!
>
I would lean towards there most likely not having a forklift or a hydrolic tail
gate, unless you request and pay for it. I just went through it again with my
new lathe. I solved the problem and saved myself $84 by going to the trucking
company and picking it up. They put it in the back of my truck.
Thanks and Happy Woodworking,
Dick Eddy
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jason somthing
Enjoy it.
Charles Self
>I backed my pick up to the rear of the 18 wheeler. Only had to go about 2
>feet to the bed of the truck. Backed it up the driveway and opened it from
>there. (some assembly required.) <g>
The same, most of the time, on tools up to about 275-300 lbs. Only I then
slide the tools off the pick-up onto my shop floor, which was built to accept a
dropped tailgate off a basic 2WD PU. For heavier stuff, I have them hold at
terminal, and get the forklift from there to load onto my PU.
After that, it gets interesting--you ain't had no fun in your life until you've
moved a 680 lb. overarm router into a shop by yourownself (with the help of a
cable puller and many, many lengths of strapping and chain).
Or a 460 lb. 16" bandsaw. Actually, that one came out easily after I used a
hand truck to tip up one side and kicked a roller (1" black pipe, of which I
keep 6-8 on hand) under it, adding to the rollers as the saw tried to crush my
toes.
Charlie Self
Word Worker
"I reserve the absolute right to be smarter
today than I was yesterday." -Adlai Stevenson.
Charles Self
>The truck will almost certainly have a lift.
Where do you live? I've never even seen a lift on heavy trucks running this
area.
Charles Self
>I'm a one man shop. A lot of stuff, some pretty heavy. The truck will most
>likely have forklift
Another one that experience says doesn't happen around here. The ONLY trucks
I've seen with their own forklifts around here are delivering pallets of brick,
block and cut stone.
rgrif
had
delivered was a 4 post automobile lift..1800 pounds)..solved that by leaving
it
at the terminal..and sending a flat bed to pick it up..(50 bucks) .. flat bed
backed
up to the one garage and slide it right off...only a few feet from when I had
to
assemble it...
My major problem is that my shop is over another garage...400 pound saws are
a
pain to get up stairs...block and tackle..and 2x4 runners...and huff and
puffffff !
Bob Griffiths
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Frank Weston
truck has no lift gate or ramp. Be prepared. The two necessary items are a
wooden ramp and a moving dolly. A wooden ramp can be two 12' 2x6's properly
secured to each other and the truck. Skid the boxes to the ramp, slide them
to the ground, tilt them onto the dolly and roll them to your shop. Support
the middle of the "ramp" with a saw horse if the load is much more than
200#.
Frank Weston
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jimco
lower it to the ground. You can use pipes to move it from there, if it is
crated. If not, walk it, leg to leg.
/Good Luck.
PS If the truck does NOT have a rear lift, call the truck company and tell
them to use a truck with a lift.
Jim Yanik
<20001031071003...@ng-mc1.aol.com>:
You can call the trucking company and request that the delivery truck have
a lift. Our shipping clerk at TEK(in Orlando) used to do it all the time.
Jim Yanik,NRA member
Jim Yanik
No,they use a delivery truck with a lift built into the tailgate.After it's
on the ground,then it's your problem.
Jim Yanik,NRA member
Jim Yanik
<8tme8...@enews4.newsguy.com>:
If you know it's coming,rent a few furniture dollys from the local self-
storage place.Or make some yourself.Casters can be bought at HD,or other
hardware stores.(Once the item is lowered by the truck lift gate.)
Jim Yanik,NRA member
Eric Tonks
truck using two planks. You will find it impossible to lift the object up
onto the planks without knocking them down off the truck, and to get a safe
slope you will need planks that are about 16 feet long, too long to take the
load without breaking.
Contact the shipping company to find out what transport company they will
use then call the transport company to arrange local delivery with a truck
that has a hydraulic tailgate and a skid jack on board. This will allow
lowering the item to ground level and then move it on flat ground to where
you want. Any stairs or level changes will have to be addressed later after
the delivery is complete.
This method was used on a 700 pound generator/engine set that I had imported
from the US to Canada. The driver moved the crate into my garage and parked
it exactly where I wanted it. It may cost a little more this way, but better
than repairing an expensive tool that dropped to the street.
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Bill Watson
delivered by an 18 wheeler and you have to get it off. Have asked
several large freight co and they all said they didn't even have a truck
with a lift.
paul womack
a truck (I assume) unloaded a table saw by the subtle expedient
of driving too quickly, with an inadequately secured saw...
Whatever. There was a nice Wadkin TS on the verge.
BugBear
Charles Self
>>jssnow writes:
>>
>>>The truck will almost certainly have a lift.
>>
>>Where do you live? I've never even seen a lift on heavy trucks running
>>this area.
>>
>>Charlie Self
>>Word Worker
>>
>> "I reserve the absolute right to be smarter
>> today than I was yesterday." -Adlai Stevenson.
>>
>>
>
>You can call the trucking company and request that the delivery truck have
>a lift. Our shipping clerk at TEK(in Orlando) used to do it all the time.
I don't doubt you can request one, and a couple companies around here might
oblige for an extra charge. But stating that a truck "will almost certinaly
have a lift" is a different thing. You can get it, most places. But you have
to ask and you have to pay.
Charles Self
>>morde5 writes:
>>>I'm a one man shop. A lot of stuff, some pretty heavy. The truck will
>>>most likely have forklift
>>
>>Another one that experience says doesn't happen around here. The ONLY
>>trucks I've seen with their own forklifts around here are delivering
>>pallets of brick, block and cut stone.
>>
>>Charlie Self
>>Word Worker
>>
>> "I reserve the absolute right to be smarter
>> today than I was yesterday." -Adlai Stevenson.
>>
>
>No,they use a delivery truck with a lift built into the tailgate.After it's
>on the ground,then it's your problem.
Again, the original said it would have a forklift. Tailgate lifts and fork
lifts are very different. Neither is likely without a special request and
extra payment.
Steve Peacock
> > them to use a truck with a lift.
The shipping company called and said for me to be at delivery address at 1PM as
they were going to be arriving on time. Sure 'nuf at 1:10 a great big bazillion
wheeler flatbed with my one lonely crate tied down over the back axle arrived.
His first question was: "Where is your loading dock?". That bed was so high up,
it would have been difficult unloading watermellons from it.
You would think that the place from where you order it would ask. It never
occurred to me I would need anything more than what the normal delivery guys use.
That evening, with the help of the next door neighbor's pickup, we took delivery
at the shipping yard about 50 miles away.
I guess they figure anybody ordering a piece of equipment that weighs more than a
few hundred pounds is set up to receive it...??!!
At least the tail of the pickup was 3 feet closer to the ground. (Oh yeah. No
problem from there. Have a large tree with a large limb near workshop)
Stuart Johnson
>Faced with imminent delivery of a new TS, I'm belatedly wondering how I'm
>going to move the 200+ lbs of stuff off the back of the delivery truck.
In my area Consolidated Freight delivers on Sat. with a truck that has a lift
gate. All three of my big stuff was delivered to the garage. You can also make
arrangements with most freight companies for inside delivery. There will be an
extra charge.
Stuart Johnson
Red Oak, Texas
Tom Heverly
The guy in my town that runs the local Memorial (head stone) carving
establishment has a truck with a beam and hoist setup on it. He uses
it to lift the stones from his display areas, to place on his truck,
and then take them out to the cemetary. It is a big truck, and the
beam is pretty high (some of those stones are pretty tall), it might
have enuff height to get over the saw in the back of the 18-wheeler.
Then you coud make some sort of a make shift sling with cargo straps.
Perhaps there is someone in your town with a similar set up, and I'll
bet they could be "rented" for a price. (cheap price if business is
slow)
J. Warman
two of suds and I can wind up with anywhere up to 28 "helpers". Can't make
up my mind if this is a suggestion, a neener or a gloat 8^).
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John B. Hines
>morde5 writes:
>>I'm a one man shop. A lot of stuff, some pretty heavy. The truck will most
>>likely have forklift
>
>Another one that experience says doesn't happen around here. The ONLY trucks
>I've seen with their own forklifts around here are delivering pallets of brick,
>block and cut stone.
The Borg (AKA Home Depot) delivery trucks have forklifts that go with
them, at least around here.
Sod is another item that is delivered by a truck with a forklift along.
A friend had the second X-31 (1100lbs) delivered by two trucks with lift
gates back-to-back. That it was the second one tells you how well one
lift gate truck worked....
Jeff LaCoss
> > Faced with imminent delivery of a new TS, I'm belatedly wondering how I'm
> > going to move the 200+ lbs of stuff off the back of the delivery truck.
> > Certainly not everyone has a neighbor with a fork-lift! Rent a hand truck
> > and roll it down a ramp? Who supplies the ramp? Rent a fork-lift for the
> > occassion? (And have some other fun while you wait for delivery!) Block &
> > tackle? Affixed to what? Friends or neighbors with healthy backs, on a
> > weekday? Hire day-laborers for the job?
I got my Unisaw delivered in a small truck (S10 size). The
driver and I got it out of the truck by hand - he said he
delivers about two saws a week with no problems. We tilted it
out, and slid the pallet off the gate.
Oh, it did hit the ground with a thump, but we controlled
the speed (sorta) so it probably wasn't any worse than
setting it down hard with a fork lift. Nothing was bent,
and the table is bolted on straight, accurate to the best
of my measurements with feeler gauge.
Best of all, the saw got set down only 10 feet from where
it needed to be.
If you didn't contract for delivery by means of a lift-gate
truck, you supply everything.
You could rent a fork-lift, but I'd check to see what it's
coming in on. If it's a 15'-20' van, they often have ramps,
if not lift gates. On the other hand, you're going to have
to get the thing from the curb to wherever, so the fork lift
might not be such a bad idea (if you know how to drive one!).
Jeff
Dog Faced Boy_
>Faced with imminent delivery of a new TS, I'm belatedly wondering how I'm
>going to move the 200+ lbs of stuff off the back of the delivery truck.
It's only 200 lbs, The driver will help you get it to the ground and
if you have a dolly you're all set. Dollys are cheap at Harbor
Freight or Home Depot. Once you get it on the dolly, wait till your
wife comes home or your neighbor to help you.
DFB
Roy Smith
> No,they use a delivery truck with a lift built into the tailgate. After
> it's on the ground,then it's your problem.
Better check with your shipper to make sure. When I bought my jointer
(250-ish pounds), the common freight carriers all told me I'd have to
pick it up at the depot (not likely with my Chevy Metro). If I wanted
it delivered to my house, that was an extra charge. If I wanted it
delievered to my house in a truck with a lift gate, that was an extra
charge on top of that! The freight costs were starting to add up to a
significant fraction of the purchase price.
I hate to admit it, but for that reason alone I went with Amazon.com.
Not only was shipping free ($4.95?) but it came FedEx (2-day ground),
delievered to my door, in a truck with a lift gate and a hydraulic
forklift. The guy plopped it right in my garage.
I have no idea what Amazon actually paid to ship it, but when I priced
the shipment myself on the FedEx web page, it came to about $400 in
shipping charges. I'm sure Amazon doesn't pay anything near that, but
it's still hard to see how they didn't take a loss on the deal.
Michael Young
contractor saw is small compared to real machinery. I left my dolly behind
when I moved two months ago because one tire was flat. It seems now that
replacing or fixing the tire would be cheap compared to buying a new one;
the wife suggested renting one instead (we'll see :-). As for getting it off
the truck bed, I'll see if I can't rig up a ramp using a heavy duty 16'
fold-up ladder, or the 24 ft extension ladder.
Getting it into the basement shop seems to be the nasty part now. I wasn't
worried before, since this is much less time dependent; I can wait for help
to arrive. But I sure do hope the complaints about Delta's setup time are
well founded. I mean, I hope it comes in manageable size pieces. I'm in that
twilight zone now, where the body is starting to fail, and the boys aren't
grown enough to really help. Dependence is frightening.
Thanks for the stories and the suggestions. All of it was as entertaining as
it was helpful.
Mike.
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the trick or treaters are winding down, and I am out of scrapes! The
little devils don't know the difference between cutoffs and candy if
you are a careful throwing them into their bags. Best of a all they
think they have gotten a great handful due to the weight....Oops gotta
go, sounds like eggs pelting the window out front...
Mark
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Don't count on it! Of all of the stuff I've had delivered via common
freight, they've never had a lift gate. We've either improvised by
sliding it down some 2x12's or done like others here and rolled it into
the back of a pickup and then to the ground.
If you need special service, you need to arrange it with the freight
company's dispatcher prior to delivery. Some charge extra, some
don't... Some drivers will assist you in unloading but are not usually
required to do it.
You may also want to ask where the freight depot is located when they
call to arrange local delivery. If the depot is close, it's often
easier to go there and pick up the shipment where they can load it into
you vehicle with a forklift.
-Kevin
Bob Becker
> going to move the 200+ lbs of stuff off the back of the delivery truck.
Do what I did.
I went out and bought a brand new 4WD pickup.
Then I went to the saw store and bought a saw.
I did my weak old man imitation and had two or three
young, strong guys load my new saw into the back of the pickup.
I drove home and opened the box in the truck.
I carried the parts to the shop floor and assembled the saw.
All I was left with was a mess of cardboard which I discarded.
Total cost.... $27,000.00 Pickup truck
$ 300.00 Saw
Easy!
Dr. Rev. Chuck, M.D., P.A.
>
> I can't believe I didn't think of this before... It's about 8PM, and
> the trick or treaters are winding down, and I am out of scrapes! The
> little devils don't know the difference between cutoffs and candy if
> you are a careful throwing them into their bags. Best of a all they
> think they have gotten a great handful due to the weight....Oops gotta
> go, sounds like eggs pelting the window out front...
> Mark
You didn't slip 'em any Lamello biscuits?
jason somthing
hershey bars and have been handing that out.... i think im goin broke
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> Faced with imminent delivery of a new TS, I'm belatedly wondering
how I'm
> going to move the 200+ lbs of stuff off the back of the delivery
truck.
[this post didn't seem to make it 1st time around]
Well, since you asked, here's how I got 2,000 lbs. worth of
ts/shaper/jointer/planer off a few months back:
Fear and Loathing in Rochester
Well, after a 12-week wait, the word came - the Hammers were en
route. Great! Arrangements were for the two crates to be placed on
my driveway. ABF was the carrier, and the online tracking they
provide is pretty good, so I was able to follow the progress, right
up until they arrived in town and I got a call from local ABF -
wrong address on the shipment. No worries, no ones fault, it was my
work address (which I and Felder have been using) vs. home.
Corrected the address for ABF, then they asked if I had a loading
dock at home. Uh oh. The proverbial ball has been dropped folks,
and is about to roll aimlessly around the parking lot.
ABF cannot deliver to "my driveway" without real special
arrangements ahead of time.
Not sure who missed that "minor" part of the plan,
but the nut of it is that the machines are at ABF on a Friday and
they say "next Thursday at the earliest, but we'll know more on
Monday". Uh oh. Ever try to pick up a ball and kick it instead?
Onward it rolls.
I call late Monday morning, and I have apparently taken the same
clerk I spoke with Friday by such surprise you would have thought I
was a member of an elite counterintelligence organization sent out
to confuse the populace. She has no idea what I'm talking about,
and makes little attempt to hide the fact. See the ball roll. Roll
ball, roll.
After a quick refresher for her benefit, I get an "oh ... um,
yeah ... haven't even LOOKED at that one yet - we're looking at late
this week or early next week ...". I'm beginning to think "Thursday
at the earliest" is now a standard reply along the lines of "the
check's in the mail". Her lack of confidence combined with a
healthy dose of indifference is just shy of awe-inspiring.
Ferchrissakes. Where's my blood pressure medicine?
Tums will have to do.
So, a quick call to the rental place, reschedule three meetings,
grab the CB, roll up my sleeves and drop my pants enough to
show a crack and I'm off to ABF in the feared Mitsubishi
Fuso 14' Liftgate. Arrive at ABF and it's not what I expect -
the Hammers are still on a trailer, and the infamous "Joe",
who is the only worker in the "warehouse" such as it is,
is "running late getting into work". It's one-farking-pee-em.
I grab an application for Joe's job.
Now I'm pretty much hosed and pissed, which is a lovely combination
of which we've all had the pleasure, I'm sure. I'm at ABF with a
truck and pallet jack, but the crates are on an ABF trailer truck
and it's me and the clerk looking at each other like we've just seen
an alien space landing. Complete, open-mouthed zeroes for both of
us. Not a word passes as time goes by at a snails pace and we stand
there, listening to the clock tick.
As if to prove God has compassion to go with his sense of humor, the
clouds part, the rain stops, and out of nowhere appears what ends up
being the nicest, friendliest truck driver on the planet. Wish I
caught his name. He not only offers to help out, he's an
experienced forklift guy from way back and gets the crates off
the trailer and situated for placement on my truck. OK, this is
looking slightly up. Ah but wait - surprise #8 is that the A3-41
is (logically) skidded from the 7' side, which means the forklift
cannot lift it and get it on the 2.12 meter-wide Mitsubishi
(that's 6-11.5' for you Imperialists).
Did I mention being hosed and pissed?
But, "Charlie" has the shmartz to place another perpendicular skid
underneath the works and manages to drag/coax/cajole/wish that baby
onto my truck, lengthwise. Barely. Now he ups the B3 and uses that
to push the A3-41 further back on the truck. The loaded crates
leave the following:
. Room for my pallet jack with two inches to spare;
. "Charlie" feeling pretty proud;
. Me, with a puckered sphincter, wondering how the hell I'll get
them off the truck;
Some last minute unloading advice from "Charlie" - the old "I've
seen THIS done ... or you could try THIS ..." - he then goes on to
relate McGiver-like tales of getting large things off small trucks.
Brings goosebumps, and I'm proud to be a 'Merican, salute
"Charlie" and wonder where I can rent a helicopter and some
dynamite. All the while "Charlie" has that amused,
glad-I'm-not-you-or-your-buddy look, to which I counter with
the I-know-exactly-what-I'm-doing look. He
wins, and I am not a close second place.
Fire up the Mitsu diesel and I'm off. I'm thinking the following as
I pull out of ABF:
. Without "Charlie", this would have been a complete, total,
unmitigated disaster;
. I am so screwed it's funny - no way these come off the truck
cleanly;
. My plan of unloading by myself now seems like the plans of a
six-year old who promises to take care of the new puppy - complete,
utter absurdity.
. This truck handles a hell of alot better with 2300 lbs in the
back;
. Won't my cousin be surprised when I pull up to work and tell
him to "get in the truck or your dog gets it!"
I head straight to work to pick up my cousin, unannounced. I feel
like Peter Falk walking into Alan Arkin's dentist office in "The In-
Laws" - "hey buddy, got a few minutes?" (then Falk whisks Arkin off
to South America - the movie is a top-10 if you've not seen it).
After I stuff him into the truck with a wild tale of guns, lottery
winnings and topless bars, off we go to my house.
That was the easy part.
Did I mention the liftgate is about 30" wide or so, and the smaller
B3 skid is at least 4', and the A3-41 has it's 7' length staring at
the gate? Can you say cantilever? I knew you could. I'm now
cursing myself for putting together my fantasy football lineups
during physics class.
Keeriste. We coax the B3 most of the way onto the gate, then drop a
bit, coax, drop a bit, etc. until finally the tail end of the crate
splinters off like that perfect endgrain dovetail you just trimmed,
and the crate cantilevers like the infamous rock set up by Wiley
Coyote hanging over The Roadrunner's head - there's no way it's
gonna stay. Quick! Hit the DOWN button! Hey! It stayed!
Getouttahere! As Bill Nye the Science Guy would say -
physics RULES baby!
The B3 drops along with my blood pressure and is on the ground
without a whimper. I need some Gatorade with a whiskey chaser.
Wheel it home with the pallet jack and Bob's our Uncle.
Yeahbut. The A3-41 snorks at us as we try the Yuri Gellar/Spock
mind-meld to move it off the truck. It doesn't budge. In fact,
I swore it backed up a bit. No amount of staring and swearing
gets it to move, so we devise what will come to be forever be known
in the
neighborhood as THE PLAN. More appropriately, THE PLANS.
Now, the best laid plans of mice and men are subject to change,
right? To call this "a plan in flux" would be like calling
Stonehenge temporary. I can honestly say that from the back of the
truck to the liftgate - a scant 7' for the wily, cagey 7' skid - our
plan changed 3,277 times. The only thing which did not change from
iteration to iteration was "if this puppy starts to go, I'm gonna
holler and you jump on the back of that sucker like a starving lion
on fresh kill". Onlookers appear as if a tractor trailer jackknifed
on I90. Did I mention I was sweating buckets?
So we manage to get that sucker to the liftgate, inch by inch. We
stare again. I'm such a fan of cantilevering at this point, we're
willing to risk it all and get 2/3 of that puppy hanging off the
ass-end and lower bit by bit while cuz swings off the back like a
deranged Spider Monkey at the zoo. Yes Regis, as screwed as that
sounds, that's my final answer and I'm outta lifelines baby.
We get 'er moving, and it occurs to me we are
implementing "Charlie"'s plan #14, sans the twine, mineral spirits,
coke can and gunpowder. So, bolstered with the immutable fact
that "Charlie has seen this work, so it must be a sound plan", we
proceed. Inch out, inch down, repeat. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Finally the front end is a scant 8" off the ground - at a hell of an
angle mind you, but it hasn't fallen - yet - so we get the pallet
jack situated. Inch down, inch out, bingo-bango we're almost home.
Change the liftgate angle, uh-huh, yup ... oh yeah, just like we
planned ... yup ... ok, right there! Up an inch, over an inch,
clear the stud - HEY MAN! IT IS DOWN BABY! YOU
DA MANG! Wheel her home, right on the mark.
Simple.
Total truck rental costs: About $75.
Total for refill of blood pressure medicine: $100.
Total for lunch I now owe my cousin: About $30.
Total man hour costs: About $400.
Two Hammers in the garage: Priceless.
P.
Mark
>
> Faced with imminent delivery of a new TS, I'm belatedly wondering how I'm
> going to move the 200+ lbs of stuff off the back of the delivery truck.
> and roll it down a ramp? Who supplies the ramp? Rent a fork-lift for the
> occassion? (And have some other fun while you wait for delivery!) Block &
> tackle? Affixed to what? Friends or neighbors with healthy backs, on a
> weekday? Hire day-laborers for the job?
>
Mike - call your vendor and call the carrier they are using. Ask how
many boxes the saw will arrive in, and how the carrier will be
delivering it.
My Delta CS came on the back of an 18 wheeler, and the fence rails, etc.
came seperately from the basic saw, reducing the weight some. IIRC, the
driver helped me carry the main box to the house.
My X31 (1100 lbs) I loaded/unloaded to/from a 4x4 truck using a
come-along, ramps and a couple friends.
Also, depending on how the saw is shipped, it might be easy to open the
box and move some of the heavier pieces like the motor on its own.
-Mark
Larry Jaques
>Well, since you asked, here's how I got 2,000 lbs. worth of
>ts/shaper/jointer/planer off a few months back:
>
>Fear and Loathing in Rochester
You're right. You should have foregone the football crap whilst taking
a physics class.
>Simple.
195 lines is simple?
>Total truck rental costs: About $75.
>Total for refill of blood pressure medicine: $100.
>Total for lunch I now owe my cousin: About $30.
>Total man hour costs: About $400.
A mere extra $605? You forgot to mention the day out of your life +
at least a year off the end. You didn't mention whether or not you
would ever purchase from that company again or use that trucking
company again. I suppose "C - None of the Above" applies here.
>Two Hammers in the garage: Priceless.
Whassa "two hammer"?
Next time, remember to use some comealongs, bumper jacks with pipe
extensions. Or just pay the extra $50 fee for them to install it.
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thusly:
> You forgot to mention the day out of your life +
> at least a year off the end. You didn't mention whether or not you
> would ever purchase from that company again or use that trucking
> company again. I suppose "C - None of the Above" applies here.
Actually, I'd buy from Felder/Hammer again in a heartbeat regardless
of the delivery snafu's. However I would in fact handle the
delivery with ABF or other carrier *entirely* differently next time
around. None of these carriers make a living at (nor do most have
an interest in) delivering 2K lbs. of woodworking machines to garage
shops.
> Whassa "two hammer"?
The B3 and A3-41 machines can be see at
http://www.hammer.at/eng/index_eng.html. Hammer is owned by Felder.
> Next time, remember to use some comealongs, bumper jacks with pipe
> extensions. Or just pay the extra $50 fee for them to install it.
As trivial as that sounds, it was not quite that simple, as I'm sure
you fully realize.
P.
Norman Pirollo
The freight delivery person left it in my garage.. What I did
was to remove the cast iron top, which incidentally is very heavy,
and was then left with the cabinet with motor installed...
Somebody I know helped me carry the cabinet into my shop.
I got the heavy or top end out of consideration for the help.
I also had previously carried the cast iron top into my shop
without help...
When you remove the cast iron top like this, you need to go through
an alignment procedure that takes all of 20 minutes or so..
All the other parts, fence, extra cast wing, , extension table were
fortunately in separate boxes... This worked out well...
I'm surprised the extension tables aren't pre-drilled for the legs
and rail bars... This might slow me down...
Good Luck,
Norman
Larry Jaques
<jorda...@worldnet.att.net> scrawled:
>Actually, I'd buy from Felder/Hammer again in a heartbeat regardless
>of the delivery snafu's. However I would in fact handle the
>delivery with ABF or other carrier *entirely* differently next time
>around.
I can imagine. I'd rather never do business with Consolidated again.
They played "Check Earth Gravity" numerous times on my last
shipment. I only heard one of them, and they were probably trying to
lift it above the rest of the boxes in the warehouse at the time.
>None of these carriers make a living at (nor do most have
>an interest in) delivering 2K lbs. of woodworking machines to garage
>shops.
True.
>> Whassa "two hammer"?
>
>The B3 and A3-41 machines can be see at
>http://www.hammer.at/eng/index_eng.html. Hammer is owned by Felder.
Jaysuss! You're a real dyed-in-the-plaid-wool Normite, aren't ya?
>> Next time, remember to use some comealongs, bumper jacks with pipe
>> extensions. Or just pay the extra $50 fee for them to install it.
>
>As trivial as that sounds, it was not quite that simple, as I'm sure
>you fully realize.
I thought you'd find that amusing. I've surprised myself with what I
can Rube together given the motivation. I've dropped 500lbs boxes off
the back of my truck with one comealong and jacked up my house
(porch roof) with a car bumper jack, a length of pipe, and a 2x4. <g>
Which reminds me that I forgot to get joist hangers at the Borg this
morning. <sniffle>
The $50 install was a reference to the additional some companies
charge to drop it off the truck, sometimes rolling it inside for you.
(This from reading Normite war stories here.) - IANAN -
And I forgot to mention your company when I answered that guy
who wanted bandsaw bearings today. Did you catch that, and does
RolTru do guide bearings?
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wrote:
>You did see the smilie at the end of my message? I'm enjoying the stories,
>grateful that I don't want any of these monster pieces of equipment.
>
>If you rent a forklift, are they delivered and picked up by the vendor?
Heh. "OK, lady, your forklift's here...where's your loading dock?" :-)
I've seen rigs where the forklift just hung off the back of the
truckbed by the forks (inserted into sockets in the frame), and
lowered itself to the ground on delivery. I think it was for
delivering sod.
Lee
Paul Jordan
> I can imagine. I'd rather never do business with Consolidated
again.
> They played "Check Earth Gravity" numerous times on my last
> shipment. I only heard one of them, and they were probably trying
to
> lift it above the rest of the boxes in the warehouse at the time.
Ouch. I can't tell you how many times we've had to file for
reimbursement from shippers, it's amazing.
> >The B3 and A3-41 machines can be see at
> >http://www.hammer.at/eng/index_eng.html. Hammer is owned by
Felder.
>
> Jaysuss! You're a real dyed-in-the-plaid-wool Normite, aren't ya?
Well, not really, although Norm got me started and I continue to
enjoy his shows. I've evolved with a few shoves from well-meaning
folks. Let's just say for the one-off stuff I do, I feel electrons
were invented to prep stock, and hand tools are around for the rest.
If you are ever in NY, the guy with the "GALOOT" plates is me.
Besides, the available "quiet" time for hand tools far outweighs the
time available to make gobs of noise, so if I didn't use hand tools,
my woodworking time, such as it is, would be cut down substantially.
> The $50 install was a reference to the additional some companies
> charge to drop it off the truck, sometimes rolling it inside for
you.
> (This from reading Normite war stories here.) - IANAN -
Yeah, ABF *might have* done that if I had spoken to the President of
US Operations beforehand. On the other side, Felder/Hammer service
has been great, but the margins on the Hammer equipment mean that
you pay time, travel and expenses for a visit from a friendly tech
rep. Can get expensive, quickly, unless they are already in town
for a show, etc.
> And I forgot to mention your company when I answered that guy
> who wanted bandsaw bearings today. Did you catch that, and does
> Rol-Tru do guide bearings?
Not currently, but we've thought about it.
P.
Larry Jaques
<jorda...@worldnet.att.net> scrawled:
>Ouch. I can't tell you how many times we've had to file for
>reimbursement from shippers, it's amazing.
I didn't file, but you'd be amazed at what a drop from the top
of a fork lift can do to the super-tough end of a bowling alley lane.
>> Jaysuss! You're a real dyed-in-the-plaid-wool Normite, aren't ya?
>
>Well, not really, although Norm got me started and I continue to
>enjoy his shows. I've evolved with a few shoves from well-meaning
>folks. Let's just say for the one-off stuff I do, I feel electrons
>were invented to prep stock, and hand tools are around for the rest.
>If you are ever in NY, the guy with the "GALOOT" plates is me.
>Besides, the available "quiet" time for hand tools far outweighs the
>time available to make gobs of noise, so if I didn't use hand tools,
>my woodworking time, such as it is, would be cut down substantially.
With those 2 hunks of big arn, you've gotta be into the 5-digit shop-
tool area by now. You and Guntie are closet Normites with Galoot
clothing, huh? Admit it, Paul. ;) (Actually, I shouldn't talk, as I'm
gingerly creeping that direction myself.)
>Yeah, ABF *might have* done that if I had spoken to the President of
>US Operations beforehand. On the other side, Felder/Hammer service
>has been great, but the margins on the Hammer equipment mean that
>you pay time, travel and expenses for a visit from a friendly tech
>rep. Can get expensive, quickly, unless they are already in town
>for a show, etc.
I probably should have said "delivered" or "dropped" vs "installed"
there. It means that they provide a forklift when they come.
TR...@uslife.com
truck with a lift gate. I thought that was a little much but what
choice do I have.
Tim Rowledge
psjo...@my-deja.com wrote:
[snip]
> Total truck rental costs: About $75.
> Total for refill of blood pressure medicine: $100.
> Total for lunch I now owe my cousin: About $30.
> Total man hour costs: About $400.
> Two Hammers in the garage: Priceless.
>
Fabulous story. I had similar fun with my Robland X-31 and my ShopTask
Mill/Lathe.
Get notification the X31 is at the depot in Modesto (my shop is in the
mountains near Yosemite, my house is in the SF Bay Area - go figure) and
went to go rent a pickup with liftgate. Find there are none available
right now and the only truck they have is a 25ft 10 tonner with six
speed manual box. Eek. I haven't driven a manual four-wheel in years.
Let alone anything that big - well, not since I drove a Deltic railway
locomotive at the age of three.
So I get the truck and the first thing is to get it out of the rental
yard and down the road to the mercifully nearby depot. Did you know you
can get a 10ft wide truck down 8ft wide roads if you close your eyes
tight enough? Then I have to back into the loading dock; crunch.
Of course, I have nothing to lock the crate down, so the first time I it
the brakes - did I mention airbrakes? - the crate tries to join me in
the cab. I still have hearing impairment from the combined crunch and
scream.
Then it's an easy 50 miles drive through pretty country roads, uphill,
up, up, uphill to the shop. Where I have to get the d$^%^$%^ed thing
off. Ever tried to move a 1300lb crate 20ft alone? Eventually I decided
to dismantle the crate and move as much as possible in parts, which was
a good move; of course I had lousy acces to most of the ten million
fasteners I hd to remove to dismantle the crate... Still, eventually I
had the main unit on the liftgate and only two major injuries to show
for it, so it was time to lower away. But wait! How am I to get the unit
up the four inches from the ground to the shop floor level? The answer
was to build a bridge from assorted planks so that I could lower the
liftgate to the same level, slide the saw across and onto the shop
floor. Done!
On the way back to the rental yard I got that sucker up to an indicated
55mph; boy was that fun around windy roads :-)
Truck rental: $125 plus taxes etc.
Then a while later my Shoptask arrived at San Jose (they can't ship to
Modesto) and I was told I could pick it up on a saturday morning; hah!
They weren't even _open_ then! Just as well I hadn't actually hired a
truck when I found out.
This time I hired an F150 pickup, which has to count as one of the worst
handling vehicles I ever tried. And I've even driven Explorers, Jeeps,
and (gasp) Grand Ams, so it has some imposing company to beat for that
honour. I got the crate loaded ok, after all it was a mere 900lbs and
then drove off to the shop.
I had fond hopes of getting the crate off with a ramp of 8*2 planks and
a rope. Well, that was one plan dead from the beginning. Again, I
dismantled the crate to remove parts as much as possible first. How do
they managed to use so many fasteners on those things? I swear I got a
jar of maybe 3lbs of screws out of it.
Fortunately for me, a neighbour had just bought a new engine hoist,
noticed me having fun (must have been the volume of swearing and the
blue cloud over the house) and brought it over. With a hey! and ho! and
a heave! we finally got the mill lifted, drove the pickup out from under
it and somehow wrangled the sucker into the shop.
Truck rental: $150 plus $40 for a tank of gas plus $20 for motion
sickness pills from the crappy suspension.
I _really_ don't want to have to move these things ever again. But at
least I now have a great
saw/planer/jointer/shaper/mortiser/mill/drill/lathe setup. All I need
now is some time to use them.
tim
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Useful random insult:- A 3.5-inch drive, but data on punch cards.
Paul Jordan
I do enjoy these stories so, since the empathy/laughter factor is so
high. Did I mention my X31 story? (had one of those before the
Hammers).
Now, THAT is a purchase/delivery story, lemme tell you. This was my
first introduction to the svelte, Porsche-like Mitsubishi Fuso
liftgate, and I had to drive smack dab into the middle of NYC.
Yessir, Manhattan baby, right into the jewelry district, where the
milk of human kindness runs deep and cabbies listen to Yanni all
day.
Yep, that was some fun. What really - and I mean REALLY - amazed me
was the complete indifference of the entire City of NY to the fact
that I parked the Mitsu up against a loading dock - perpendicular to
the street - and covered the whole street save for about 6' and the
far sidewalk. Buses (BUSES!), cabs, police, normal folk (such as
they are in NYC) simply drove down the sidewalk. No honks, no
cussing, nuttin'. I expected at least a few mingafatches but no, it
appeared - and I know this sounds strange for NYC - it appeared no
one cared. Not sure if they even noticed the "No Parking This Side"
sign I wiped out on the way outta Dodge.
Little did they know I had a wad of cash in my pocket and was
picking up, sight unseen, a never used X31 (in pieces), a never used
LT16 bandsaw still crated, two workbenches and a dust collector
still in boxes. Puckered sphincter factor was fairly high for this
event, but it was well, well worth it.
Long story short, took me 50-60 hours to re-assemble the X31. Had
it for years and then sold it when I got the Hammers.
Fun stuff.
P.
Pam Niedermayer
heavy things like entertainment centers that slide, and the like, right? :)
Pam
Tim Rowledge wrote:
>
> In message <8tp6ms$qtr$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
> psjo...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> [snip]
> > Total truck rental costs: About $75.
> > Total for refill of blood pressure medicine: $100.
> > Total for lunch I now owe my cousin: About $30.
> > Total man hour costs: About $400.
> > Two Hammers in the garage: Priceless.
> >
> Fabulous story. I had similar fun with my Robland X-31 and my ShopTask
> Mill/Lathe....
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Pinehill Softworks Inc.
600 W. 28th St., Suite 103
Austin, TX 78705
512-236-1677
512-236-8143 fax
http://www.pinehill.com
Paul Jordan
news:3A019672...@cape.com...
> You guys do know about winches, pulleys, ramps, those new things
put under very
> heavy things like entertainment centers that slide, and the like,
right? :)
Pam Pam Pam Pam Pam. Moving these beasts across one plane is not so
much the issue, are lifting, raising and dropping - er - lowering.
In my case, moving 2,000 lbs. of crates across the truck or, once on
the driveway, into the garage was a piece of cake. Getting TO that
point is where the fun, and the stories, lie.
The real bitch is that most liftgates are no more than 30" "deep",
and some of these large machines, when crated, can be 6 or 7'
square. Forklift solves the problem, sure, but only smart folks
rent a forklift for the day. The rest of us have *stories*, and
lots of them.
P.
Pam Niedermayer
grateful that I don't want any of these monster pieces of equipment.
If you rent a forklift, are they delivered and picked up by the vendor?
Pam
PS Jack and I were able to get two very heavy, big street bikes, one with flat
tires, into and out of a van using a ramp, winch, and tow rope. We only needed
two of us because one had to keep the bike from toppling over.
--
Stuart Johnson
table saw, jointer, bandsaw all set into my garage by the Consolidated driver
at no extra charge.
Stuart Johnson
Red Oak, Texas
Steve Peacock
> lots of them.
And Paul, a GREAT read it was. Thanks. The chuckles from that
experience are still ringing around my email directory. A few have
asked if you have published ... desperate times these. We'll all be
back to our senses after next mid week.
Paul Jordan
> You did see the smilie at the end of my message? I'm enjoying the
stories,
> grateful that I don't want any of these monster pieces of
equipment.
>
> If you rent a forklift, are they delivered and picked up by the
vendor?
Yes and it depends. Even that's no so easy, as most forklift
rentals don't come with operator!
P.
Charles Self
>Pam Pam Pam Pam Pam. Moving these beasts across one plane is not so
>much the issue, are lifting, raising and dropping - er - lowering.
>In my case, moving 2,000 lbs. of crates across the truck or, once on
>the driveway, into the garage was a piece of cake. Getting TO that
>point is where the fun, and the stories, lie.
>
>The real bitch is that most liftgates are no more than 30" "deep",
>and some of these large machines, when crated, can be 6 or 7'
>square. Forklift solves the problem, sure, but only smart folks
>rent a forklift for the day. The rest of us have *stories*, and
>lots of them.
>
We used to use--this is 2-1/2 decades ago--a simple thing called a gin pole to
move logs. It is nothing more than a long pole with a low tripod base. One
end is twice as long as the other, and helps create leverage. Couple pulleys,
a snatch block, maybe an extra body, and we could move some interesting sized
chunks of firewood.
I've long forgotten the specifics, but there MUST be something somewhere on the
web about gin poles. Maybe on some back nature and bust your hump living style
web site.
Charlie Self
Word Worker
"I reserve the absolute right to be smarter
today than I was yesterday." -Adlai Stevenson.
Charles Self
>PS Jack and I were able to get two very heavy, big street bikes, one with
>flat
>tires, into and out of a van using a ramp, winch, and tow rope. We only
>needed
>two of us because one had to keep the bike from toppling over.
>
As I've noted before, my shop has the sliding doors set so I can back my
pick-up right in, drop the tailgate and be only an inch or two high. Slip a
piece of plywood on as a ramp, pop the front of the crate up and slide one (and
then more) pipe rollers under, and go.
If things get really heavy (which I hope they never do, because I work alone
except for the occasional insane volunteer like Dale or Carl Stigers), I have
put an eye bolt all the way through the opposite wall of my shop, with heavy
washers on the exterior. I can put a puller on that and skid most anything off
my truck--at least anything a half ton pick-up holds with reasonable driving
safety (in other words, since the truck is aged, about 1300 lbs.).
Pam Niedermayer
expect when they're arriving with huge things.
This is much lower in scale; but we recently bought a dishwasher from HD, who
delivered it to the front door. It was a pretty big box, looked like it would
weigh a lot. Stupid me, I found out right then that I hadn't read the fine
print; and there was no way that driver was going to bring that thing in the
house. I got so angry (Well, what can I say? It happens.), that instead of
bashing the driver over the head I yanked on the top of the box. Blew me away
completely when it allowed me to lift it, so I kept going through the front door
and deposited it where needed. Must have made some new muscles during the move. :)
Pam
--
Joe Gorman
http://www.trailridgetimberframes.com/aboutus.htm
search for pole
Patrick Olguin
of trigonometric genius, physics or even much cleverness. What I used
were my ears and a bit of dumb luck.
Ya see, fellow alleged Caballer Bob Zajicek (Zaycheck), or "Bubba" as I
like to call him when he isn't paying attention, had been doing what we
call the "I think I'm gonna buy a beeg powuh tool" mambo - an
angst-ridden ritual caused when a wallet is about to empty a good deal
of its contents on a large piece of arn. In this case the arn in
question was a Laguna LT16HD (heavy-duty Euro band saw, Jeff), AKA
Big-Ass Band Saw (BABS).
Well Bob was just like everyone else who's ever thought about buying
something more expensive than a rusted 50-cent Yankee push drill at a
yard sale. That is, he hadn't paid a lick of attention to anything
anyone had ever written on band saws since the earth's crust was
cooling, including noticing whether holes drilled in a band saw's table
for the purpose of accomodating a circle-cutting jig and then attempting
to sell the band saw without notice of such improvement constituted
fraud (special prize if any of yall reading this have been around long
enough to remember that particular thread).
So Bob was prattling on about BABS to beat the band. Oh it's so fun to
watch a fellow wooddorker squirm as he/she frets every last thing to
ensure that they're getting *the* machine (hey, they deserve it, it's
their money, right?). Well as I read his desirous meanderings, a funny
thing began to happen to me. My Gramicci shirt with the ambiguous Latin
design motif strangely began to morph to plaid. My Brookes Brothers
reversable burgundy/black belt split and became suspenders and my perky
Ralph Loren jeans suddenly became saggy, worn 502's....
A strange lust began to permeate my body. The lean waist I'd spent hours
in the workout pool to sculpt bulged out into a flak jacket-like barrel
and then I heard myself say to the screen
GAWDAMMIT, I NEED A BAND SORE!
But wait, I already had one. I had the Delta 14" 1/2hp with open base,
but that wasn't enough (not to mention it's in the Ex's garage and she
ain't letting me have it)... wasn't enough... IT WASN'T BIG ENOUGH.
Before I knew it I was on the phone with Laguna Tools, speaking to the
world-famous Bree-of-Laguna-Tools. She connected me to a salesman and as
quick as you can say 90-days-same-as-cash, I had myself an LT18 220V 3hp
BABS of my own sitting out on the dock waiting for me to pick it up.
That's right, a friggin' 18" band saw.
PICK IT UP? Eaux My Gawh! (Valley-speak for Omigod).
Looked at my watch - had 75 minutes to get through some of SoCal's worst
traffic. What to do? Well, what any rec.normer with a Suburban would do,
I hauled ass to Laguna's new showroom in lovely Irvine, California.
Halfway there I ratcheted the brain into high gear and called up Paully
Rad, for.... what else... to gloat, dammit! I got that poor sunuvagun on
the phone and literally gave him a play-by-play as Marco and Aurelio
loaded that 330lb. beast into my bubbamobile. I must say, the ride is
much better with that huge piece of arn in the back.
Some weenie cut me off at Jamboree and Alton and with a voice of
maniacal fury I screamed, "Get the F--- outta my way, I've gotta band
saw here!" while I reached back and pounded the sturdy buff-colored,
powder-coat door of BABS. Me and BABS were going places. Home.
Hmmmm.
Babs was sitting on a pretty thick chunk of cardboard that the nice men
at Laguna had had the foresight to insert between the machine and my the
luxurious grey nylon pile carpeting that graced the floor of the
Galootwagon. What to do? Ah, the obvious answer. Call someone else to
gloat! Brrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiingggggggggggggg, went BobbyZ's phone at
approximately 10:15pm Hotlanna time. "Hullo?" "Hey Bob, guess what I
gawt in my driveway?!!! Buwaaahahahahahahahhahahahhahaaaa!"
Bob was a great sport about it, and the congratulations were just dying
down and turning into, "So O'Neener, how the hell ya gonna git that
farging thing into yer shop?" when in the distance I heard the
distinctive whine of a cheesy 8" table saw. I had just moved into the
neighborhood and hadn't gotten round to meeting many of the neighbors,
and it hadn't really occurred to me that there might be a wooddorker
nearby, but the sound was unmistakable. It was clearly a table saw and
not a Skilsaw because there was the noticeable absence of the subtle
doppler effect one hears when a 13 amp Skilsaw is traveling through
plywood, melamine, MDF or some other manmade schtuff. I hung-up rudely
on Bubba.
The street was dark and the air cool as I shuffled up the hill of my
cozy lttle neighborhood. There it was again! The howl of the universal
motor and the schhhhhhiiiiingggg of the TS blade. I waited for my new
neighbor to finish the cut and clear the blade and then I meekly
called-out, "Halllloooooo?" from the end of the drive-way. I must
emphasize the meek because he was in a shop full of sharp implements and
I did not want to startle him and cause him to cut himself (an injured
woodworker is not much of a dockworker), and also meek is a general
requirement for hailing people when it's dark, you're 6'6" and you're
trying to get a person's attention without them soiling themselves.
It worked.
He came trotting out, probably expecting to be chastised by some fussy
new neighbor for running his saw after 7pm. Imagine his surprise when I
told him that I too dorked wood, and that I had an 18" band saw, and
that I'd be more than happy to let him use it if he'd help me unload it.
I dunno who was happier, him or me. I don't think it matters. Robert
demonstrated strength far beyond your typical neighbor. I think he saw
12" wide resawn mahogany in his future. We wrangled the saw onto a
flimsy hand truck and wheeled it into my new, practically uncluttered
garage shop. *Sigh* Gee it looks nice there. I attached the table a
couple nights ago, and on Monday the electrician will be here to wire
the garage and the saw.
Hey, even knuckledragger needs good lighting and a Babs as his
neanderbuddy. Uh oh, does this count as a drive-by gloat? :o)
O'Deen
Just say (tmpl) 109 lines to say my neighbor helped me unload my new
band saw.
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Larry Jaques
<pau...@concentric.net> scrawled:
>>Halfway there I ratcheted the brain into high gear and called up Paully
>>Rad, for.... what else... to gloat, dammit! I got that poor sunuvagun on
>>the phone and literally gave him a play-by-play as Marco and Aurelio
>>loaded that 330lb. beast into my bubbamobile.
>
>This is a true story, and one of the funniest phone conversations I've
>ever been on! How often do you get to listen in to a live
>**GLOAT-IN-PROGRESS** of the magnitude of a Laguna 18" bandsaur?
That's got to be Wreck history, wot? Y'know, I'd accept one of those
for Christmas if anyone wishes to gift one to me.
>>I must say, the ride is
>>much better with that huge piece of arn in the back.
>>
>>Some weenie cut me off at Jamboree and Alton and with a voice of
>>maniacal fury I screamed, "Get the F--- outta my way, I've gotta band
>>saw here!" while I reached back and pounded the sturdy buff-colored,
>>powder-coat door of BABS. Me and BABS were going places. Home.
Jamboree? Hey, I KNOW that road. He's down in HB. (Or was that
Animalheim?)
>> We wrangled the saw onto a
>>flimsy hand truck and wheeled it into my new, practically uncluttered
>>garage shop. *Sigh* Gee it looks nice there. I attached the table a
>>couple nights ago, and on Monday the electrician will be here to wire
>>the garage and the saw.
WHAT?!? Paddy, you don't even trust yourself to do that simple job?
<zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzttttttt! poooof!> Oh, I see. Sorry I asked.
>>Hey, even knuckledragger needs good lighting and a Babs as his
>>neanderbuddy. Uh oh, does this count as a drive-by gloat? :o)
>It was a drive-by in the truest sense of the word when I listened on
>the phone from 3,000 miles away!
And it was a drive-by just 60-80 miles nawth of me.
>Next you'll be telling us that you're in the market for a DC! You
>won't need it. You suck enough already.
You're right, but just -try- fitting a bag to -that- guy. <gd&r>
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store here in Cincinnati.
Second, I was talking with the manager and discussing delivery of large
items. He said they suggest to the buyer of large items to arrange with
a moving company to pick the item up from the local warehouse when it
arrives or from the store and delivery it. All items not in stock pass
through a local warehouse for local delivery. The semi that picked up
the item at another local warehouse in the factory or distribution
warehouse city isn't going to come to your house. Let them know the
weight and if you want it in the garage, down the steps or wherever.
Some men and a truck might cost $40 or $50 per hour and one hour might
do it. They have the dollys, straps, lift gates, experience and
insurance for any damage to the item or their backs.
Paul T. Radovanic
wrote:
>Well my unloading story isn't nearly so complicated, elaborate or full
>of trigonometric genius, physics or even much cleverness. What I used
>were my ears and a bit of dumb luck.
Not to mention a bit of one-upmanship!
>Ya see, fellow alleged Caballer Bob Zajicek (Zaycheck), or "Bubba" as I
>like to call him when he isn't paying attention,
Who, after all should get credit for starting this whole thing, since
he bought his Laguna earlier that same day...
>Before I knew it I was on the phone with Laguna Tools, speaking to the
>world-famous Bree-of-Laguna-Tools. She connected me to a salesman
You forgot the part about "I want it for five cents less than Bob paid
for it!"
> and as
>quick as you can say 90-days-same-as-cash, I had myself an LT18 220V 3hp
>BABS of my own sitting out on the dock waiting for me to pick it up.
>That's right, a friggin' 18" band saw.
A friggin THREE HORSEPOWER 18" bandsaur!
>Looked at my watch - had 75 minutes to get through some of SoCal's worst
>traffic. What to do? Well, what any rec.normer with a Suburban would do,
>I hauled ass to Laguna's new showroom in lovely Irvine, California.
...with bad directions....
>Halfway there I ratcheted the brain into high gear and called up Paully
>Rad, for.... what else... to gloat, dammit! I got that poor sunuvagun on
>the phone and literally gave him a play-by-play as Marco and Aurelio
>loaded that 330lb. beast into my bubbamobile.
This is a true story, and one of the funniest phone conversations I've
ever been on! How often do you get to listen in to a live
**GLOAT-IN-PROGRESS** of the magnitude of a Laguna 18" bandsaur?
>I must say, the ride is
>much better with that huge piece of arn in the back.
>
>Some weenie cut me off at Jamboree and Alton and with a voice of
>maniacal fury I screamed, "Get the F--- outta my way, I've gotta band
>saw here!" while I reached back and pounded the sturdy buff-colored,
>powder-coat door of BABS. Me and BABS were going places. Home.
True story! I heard it live! It was like watching the OJ chase on
TV!
> We wrangled the saw onto a
>flimsy hand truck and wheeled it into my new, practically uncluttered
>garage shop. *Sigh* Gee it looks nice there. I attached the table a
>couple nights ago, and on Monday the electrician will be here to wire
>the garage and the saw.
>Hey, even knuckledragger needs good lighting and a Babs as his
>neanderbuddy. Uh oh, does this count as a drive-by gloat? :o)
It was a drive-by in the truest sense of the word when I listened on
the phone from 3,000 miles away!
Paddy O'deen, Neanderthal Galoot Extraordinaire, purveyor of Galoot
hats and galootish shellac flakes, owner of countless hand tools,
veteran of planing in the park on lunch hour, the only one who has
ever hand-planed zebrawood, actual Owner of the Old Tools List (The
Porch) goes out and buys just about the biggest baddest whamma jamma
Normish tool available!
>O'Deen
>Just say (tmpl) 109 lines to say my neighbor helped me unload my new
>band saw.
Next you'll be telling us that you're in the market for a DC! You
won't need it. You suck enough already.
Paul Rad
Charles Self
>I've seen rigs where the forklift just hung off the back of the
>truckbed by the forks (inserted into sockets in the frame), and
>lowered itself to the ground on delivery. I think it was for
>delivering sod.
Very similar to rigs around here that deliver brick, block, stone. It's not
quite that simple, but almost.
Casket deliverers and septic tank guys usually have a crane built right into
the truck, too.
Chuck
"Charles Self" <charl...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Well, that about covers both ends of the spectrum of life, doesn't it?
Chuck
Charles Self
Chuck who? Farley?
Sorry, but I don't like and seldom respond that particular distortion of my
name.
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Charles Self
>Someone piss on your Wheaties? HIS name is Chuck.
>
No kidding? That still doesn't make my name Chuck.
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So then tell me, who called you Chuck?
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Well, that about covers both ends of the spectrum of life, doesn't it?
Chuck
> Casket deliverers and septic tank guys usually have a crane built right
into
> the truck, too.
>
> Charlie Self
> Word Worker
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Eddie Munster
John
Charles Self
>
>So then tell me, who called you Chuck?
>
>
The originator of the first message, Mr. Chuck.
Matt Gradwohl
paid the standard fee from Grizzly. They warn you that the truck drivers
"aren't required to help."
When they arranged drop-off, they hit their time.
They had a lift gate.
The guy had a 1-man pallet jack on wheels.
Without even asking, he did most of the work.
I was super pleased. Way to go Oak Harbor Freight!!!
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<snip>
> William,
> I just recently purchased a lathe From Grizzly. It was shipped on CF,
when it
> got to the Cincinnati distribution center I called them to arrange for
them to
> deliver it. I was told that it is an $84 charge for a hydraulic tailgate
> equiped truck to deliver it. I choose instead to go to the distribution
center
> and have them put in the back of my truck for me. There is no charge for
that.
>
> Thanks and Happy Woodworking,
> Dick Eddy
Dallasburg
>items. He said they suggest to the buyer of large items to arrange with
>a moving company to pick the item up from the local warehouse when it
>arrives or from the store and delivery it. All items not in stock pass
>through a local warehouse for local delivery. The semi that picked up
>the item at another local warehouse in the factory or distribution
>warehouse city isn't going to come to your house. Let them know the
>weight and if you want it in the garage, down the steps or wherever.
>Some men and a truck might cost $40 or $50 per hour and one hour might
>do it. They have the dollys, straps, lift gates, experience and
>insurance for any damage to the item or their backs.
>
I just recently purchased a lathe From Grizzly. It was shipped on CF, when it
got to the Cincinnati distribution center I called them to arrange for them to
deliver it. I was told that it is an $84 charge for a hydraulic tailgate
equiped truck to deliver it. I choose instead to go to the distribution center
and have them put in the back of my truck for me. There is no charge for that.
Thanks and Happy Woodworking,
Dick Eddy
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