Well, you could just put it in the microwave with some tinfoil. Yeah,
that would about do it...
...Kevin
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Philip Lewis <phi...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Depends oh how many lumens yer lookin' for....
>
> You can always lay the wood on the garage floor, get a strobe light
> reaaaaalllly close and flash the thing....
>
> Oh...you meant Lightning struck wood.......nevermind
>
> Philski
>
> P.S. Get yer wood good 'n wet.. climb a radio tower during a
> thunderstrom... hold the wood waaay abover yer head.....
> Then say over and over..if Franklin can do it so can I!
>
> Good Luck...
>
> (What's that smell?)
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"Lee LaCroix" <l...@echoespast.com> wrote in message
news:38CED305...@echoespast.com...
>God, I'm glad I sent this message to this newsgroup. Not only do you
>correct my
>spelling, which I really appreciate more than you know, but you've
>offered any
>number of really useful suggestions. I know I'll certainly try this
>newsgroup again
>when I have another problem that needs the inputs from a bunch of aging
>comics
>with nothing better to do. Christ, you just make a guy feel so welcome!
>Adios
Wait a minute, bub. What about this invoice? You owe $37.50 for each
response. Oh, and the 13.7% surcharge for being a Franchman.
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>Hi Group,
>Does anyone know of a source for lighting struck wood. I'm a flutemaker
>who has a client that would like a flute crafted from lighting struck
>wood.
>Any help would be appreciated.
>Thanks
>
I would say wait for a big thunderstorm, and follow the bright flash
of light.
You might want to put on a garlic necklace the next time this person
comes around though...just to be on the safe side. : )
<<<The following is an excerpt from a post I found on the subject>>>
"I think I might have left out one important point about collecting
lightning struck wood--whatever you do--don't let it drop to the
ground--if it does, it loses its 'charge' of protection because the
energy is being 'grounded' out by Mother Earth--I think I left that
out of my post--my apologies....geeze...."
-anonymous
oh well, good luck
By the way, do you have a website of your work? If not, why don't you
post some pictures of your flutes on
alt.binaries.pictures.furniture or
alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking
I'd like to see them.
Al
Just curious.
foxeye
Foxeye
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fox...@nospamddyne.com
Just my .02 cents worth!
You can always lay the wood on the garage floor, get a strobe light
reaaaaalllly close and flash the thing....
Oh...you meant Lightning struck wood.......nevermind
Philski
P.S. Get yer wood good 'n wet.. climb a radio tower during a
thunderstrom... hold the wood waaay abover yer head.....
Then say over and over..if Franklin can do it so can I!
Good Luck...
(What's that smell?)
foxeye <fox...@ddyne.com> wrote in article
<38d18ba6...@news.ddyne.com>...
> Just what is lightning suppoxsed to do to the wood to make a flute out
> of it andy better than a non-struck tree's wood? I have pines, and
> oaks and a hickory and some others on my place all struck by the big
> power surge in the sky, and when I burn it in a woodstove it all burns
> the same, as well as looks the same when I am cutting it up, and
> splitting it. So tell us what makes lightning struck wood so much
> prefered.
>
> Just curious.
> foxeye
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:31:45 GMT, a...@bright.net (Al Taylor) wrote:
Probably about as much as those magnets do for foot pain in Dr. Scholls
"magnetic therapy" shoe inserts.....
But...the person that wants it is a customer, so I can only assume he is
going to charge apremium for this "rare" wood...and his troubles in
finding it.....
Which reminds me...I have a special deal for the NG...a few, rare, serial
numbered Lightning Struck, cast manganese bronze tooth picks..hand crafted
and comes in its own basswood display case with plexiglass lid so you can
show it off....all for a mere $699.95!
Kevin & Theresa Miller <at...@alaska.net> wrote in article
<38CDBBB0...@alaska.net>...
>
> Well, you could just put it in the microwave with some tinfoil. Yeah,
> that would about do it...
>
> ...Kevin
> --
> Kevin & Theresa Miller
> http://www.alaska.net/~atftb
>
Not to change the subject..but, well hell, yeah, to change the subject..I
used to have a combo microwave/convection oven and I could put metal in it
and use the microwave. It was designed for that. Now, any microwave gurus
out there know why? Did it operate at a different microwave frequency or
something? Special klystron tube or somehting?
I will admit that putting a small piece or two of "Pop-Tart" foil wrapping
in my current microwave is kinda fun....
Seriously, your request is odd to say the least. It sounds like a Troll
job, a joke, or a legend of some kind. That impression is magnified by
your failure to mention the species of wood desired. If you and your
customer are serious, this probably came from some sort of Native American
legend ... maybe it's old and true ... or, maybe it's just some recently
made up mystical sounding blarney. A lot of that is being sold these days.
Anyway ...
Some lightening bolts reach the ground by passing through several trees at
once, thus dividing the charge between them unevenly. Trees with less
conductivity at the time of a lightening strike, receive lesser amounts of
current and survive. Many show little damage, outwardly, and heal over
time. What all that does to the grain structure and how it affects musical
qualities is a matter of chance, the species of tree in question, and the
ears of the musical audience.
What you need is not a company that deals in naturally scarred woods.
Those are kinda rare. What you need is a woodsman who knows some trees
that lightening has struck of the species, size, and damage/healing level
desired. Then you need a wood-cutter, a truck, a sawmill, a drying kiln,
and a fair amount of time for curing the wood.
Recommendation:
When you get the wood you want, also make some flutes from non-lightening
struck wood of the same species. That way you can see if lightening flutes
actually do sound better, or at least different, than wood that was not
lightening hit.
Axel
How about just going into a field where a tree has been hit and getting
some? Of course, I'd ask the owner of the field first. Almost weekly
throughout the Spring you see trees downed around here from lightning.
It isn't that uncommon, but I know of no one who actually labels the
stuff and markets it.
--
Dave Bennett
I realize we are kind of behind the times here in Scratch Ankle but I have
never in my entire life seen a tree that was not connected to the ground in
some way. Do you all have some new fangled type of tree that floats in the
air?
Have a GREAT DAY~~ al
If you have trouble finding lightning-struck wood, you could make your
own. Go to your nearest Ford dealership and purchase a Ford Lightning
truck. Choose a tree of the desired species, preferably close to the
road (and a hospital), and drive the Lightning into it. When you
recover from your injuries, you should have enough Lightning struck wood
to last you for a lifetime. If you don't need that much, you could cut
a branch from a tree and whack the Lightning with it. Of course, that
would be wood-struck Lightning, which isn't quite the same thing.
Seriously, though, what property does lightning impart to wood? I
understand that when lightning passes through the wood, it flashes the
moisture to steam, and can cause the wood to explode. I believe this
would only occur near the surface of the tree, unless it was hollow,
since electric current only travels on the outside of a conductor. If
this is true, the "effect" of the lightning would only be in the outer
layers of wood near the bark.
Regards,
John.
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Before you buy.
No mention was made of whether the lightning strike had to be upward or
downward. What an oversight!
Cheers
Adam
Why not just consider your original post:
>Does anyone know of a source for lighting struck wood. I'm a flutemaker
>who has a client that would like a flute crafted from lighting struck
>wood.
Seriously: Where would *you* expect someone to know where to find a
retailer who would actually sell wood from a tree supposedly struck by
lightning? ...and for what exact purpose would such a person stock
this wood (other than for one person's desire to make flutes)? What
distinctive non-shaman properties would this wood have that make it
preferable to wood from a similar tree *not* struck by lightning? And
incidentally, just what make of tree did you have in mind?
It might help if you could be more informative yourself before casting
aspersions upon others.
Dan.
I mean come on!...Lightning struck wood for a flute...?!
Whadda ya expect? I don't remember correcting your spelling though.
But seriously, I would like to see some of your work. I bought a flute
from a fellow that makes his own at an arts festival we have each year
in this area. I've been playing around with it and am interested in
other types.
This one is I guess you would call an American Indian type.
I am aging and a bit of a comic, but don't take it to heart.
Al
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 05:24:20 GMT, Lee LaCroix <l...@echoespast.com>
wrote:
>God, I'm glad I sent this message to this newsgroup. Not only do you
I have seen lumber that was cut from lightning damaged trees, and I
never observed any differences. So, just how will anyone proove that
the wood was actually cut from a tree that was struck by lightning?
Brook
Lee LaCroix had an unusual request, but not a bizarre one. As to why
his/her client wants a flute made out of lightning-struck wood, who
cares ?
Maybe it's tonal, maybe it's aesthetic, maybe it's sentimental.
Why would he think we'd know, anyways ? After all, we only buy:
* domestics
* exotics
* diseased wood
* rotting wood
* abnormal growths
* 100-1000 year old lumber
and so on.
And now my attempt at being helpful: Lee - recommend you contact your
municipality's landscaping department, local agricultural extension
office, and various commercial tree services to inquire about
lightning-damaged trees. All of these organizations remove damaged
trees frequently and they need to pay for disposal if someone doesn't
take it away.
Lightning-struck trees are not, IME, a commercial product.
-Mark
dann...@here.com wrote:
>
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 05:24:20 GMT, Lee LaCroix <l...@echoespast.com>
> wrote:
>
> Why not just consider your original post:
>
> >Does anyone know of a source for lighting struck wood. I'm a flutemaker
> >who has a client that would like a flute crafted from lighting struck
> >wood.
>
> Seriously: Where would *you* expect someone to know where to find a
> retailer who would actually sell wood from a tree supposedly struck by
> lightning? ...and for what exact purpose would such a person stock
> this wood (other than for one person's desire to make flutes)? What
> distinctive non-shaman properties would this wood have that make it
> preferable to wood from a similar tree *not* struck by lightning? And
> incidentally, just what make of tree did you have in mind?
>
> It might help if you could be more informative yourself before casting
> aspersions upon others.
>
> Dan.
>
> >God, I'm glad I sent this message to this newsgroup. Not only do you
> >correct my
> >spelling, which I really appreciate more than you know, but you've
> >offered any
> >number of really useful suggestions. I know I'll certainly try this
> >newsgroup again
> >when I have another problem that needs the inputs from a bunch of aging
> >comics
> >with nothing better to do. Christ, you just make a guy feel so welcome!
> >Adios
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
--
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lwas...@charm.net
Mark (mke...@nortelnetworks.com) wrote:
: Folks,
: -Mark
: >
: > >God, I'm glad I sent this message to this newsgroup. Not only do you
: > >correct my
: > >spelling, which I really appreciate more than you know, but you've
: > >offered any
: > >number of really useful suggestions. I know I'll certainly try this
: > >newsgroup again
: > >when I have another problem that needs the inputs from a bunch of aging
: > >comics
: > >with nothing better to do. Christ, you just make a guy feel so welcome!
: > >Adios
: .
stupid, I got to ask if that's a news group I have any use for.
Fortunately, there
were some serious replies with good suggestions. To those people, I'd
like to
say thanks a bunch.
I've been a Native American flute maker for some years now. I specialize
in
crafting flutes from unusual and exotic wood. The Native American flute
community is quite large and as a group, they have always have a strong
spiritual side to their nature that is in some way connected to the
flute. I must
say also, that as a group they are the most sincere, honest, and caring
people
one would ever want to meet.
There are those who believe that a tree that has been struck by
lightning has
been touched by God and may be changed in some way by that event. It may
give special virtues to that flute that it might not otherwise have.
When I get
a special request from someone, no matter how strange, I always make a
good
faith effort to meet that request. Who of us doesn't have some strange
beliefs
that might not stand up in the light of pure logic.
I certainly am not an expert on the subject of lightning struck wood,
but I do
know that there is intense, and sudden heat involved. It doesn't seen to
far
fetched to me that there might be some change at the cellular level that
would
change the characteristics of the wood. I'd sure like to know though,
wouldn't
you?
If you are really interested in my work, I invite you to visit my
website. You
can find it at: http://www.echoespast.com.
Kindest Regards,
Lee LaCroix
Echoes Past
--
CW
KC7NOD
The tool man <john_...@infoave.net> wrote in message
news:8aleck$lqf$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Seriously, though, what property does lightning impart to wood? I
> understand that when lightning passes through the wood, it flashes the
> moisture to steam, and can cause the wood to explode. I believe this
> would only occur near the surface of the tree, unless it was hollow,
> since electric current only travels on the outside of a conductor. If
> this is true, the "effect" of the lightning would only be in the outer
> layers of wood near the bark.
>
> Regards,
> John.
>
> --
> The right tool for the job is in your head.
>
>
Have a great 00!!!!!!~~~~neib~~~~
BR
W4IRZ
>I may be in trouble for saying this, but the flutes I have seen have
>been made out of metal.
Grasshopper uses only the freshest bamboo for his flutes.
Philski
Lawrence Wasserman wrote:
>
> I may be in trouble for saying this, but the flutes I have seen have
> been made out of metal.
>
Aw shucky-darn!
Philski
Philski
Just visited your website. Those are very nice, the one I got is a
more basic design. (It ain't as nice)
Sorry your first visit was a bad one, but for the most part we're a
good bunch of guys.
That part in my response about not letting the piece touch Mother
earth, was a snip from an actual post on the subject. You might ask
the person that was wanting the lightning struck wood if they have
ever heard it.
Al
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:30:19 GMT, Lee LaCroix <l...@echoespast.com>
wrote:
>OK Al, I just finished ironing my shorts, so I'll try to answer your
Guy Hilliard
On 14 Mar 2000 11:31:47 -0500, lwas...@fellspt.charm.net (Lawrence
CW wrote:
>
> Current traveling on the outside of a conductor, or skin effect, only
> happens with AC and is only of consequence at higher frequencies. A
> lightening bolt is DC and will pass through the entire thickness of a tree.
>
> --
I believe it has more of an ac than a dc component. The waveform is a
very narrow pulse with an incredible steep rate of rise - extremely high
frequency. Thank god for the skin effect otherwise the protection form
lightning rods are of no use. Also people who have survived from
lightning strikes, most of the current travel outside of the body not
through the internal organs.
I played in an orchestra (brass section) and ALWAYS thought that the
reason they were called woodwinds is because the bozo's that played in
that section farted in their chairs.....
Philski
Franchman, are you nuts? Haven't you seen all the cans of LaCroix Chinese
food in the supermarkets?
B.
Oh, thanks a lot, Larry, just when the thread was getting interesting, you
render the whole thing off-topic!
B.
Lee, I just saw your website, your work is spectacular. But I also saw your
picture, and you're no slouch in the "aging" department yourself.
And I'm sorry I found your post funny, I just had this vision of a guy
playing a flute in an orchestra with his hair standing on end from the
electrical charge.
>Christ, you just make a guy feel so welcome!
> Adios
Actually, we ARE making you welcome, this is just the way we do it. You
should see the responses to some REALLY stupid questions.
Seriously, stick around, I'm sure you've got a lot to add to the group.
Buddy
rose
*SLAAAAAAAAAAAPP P*
*THWOMP*
*KARATE CHOP*
Perhaps being struck by lightning is preferred to being struck by angry
Spirits! Or maybe one in the same! Good luck and when in doubt, ask the
Spirits for guidance. You have nothing to loose! Language doesn't seem to be
a problem to them. You seem to have been singled out for a special Honor. Go
with it!
--
Daniel Willard
Spirits Apprentice
Lee LaCroix <l...@echoespast.com> wrote in message
news:38CED305...@echoespast.com...
> Hi Group,
> Does anyone know of a source for lighting struck wood. I'm a flutemaker
> who has a client that would like a flute crafted from lighting struck
> wood.
>I've been a Native American flute maker for some years now. I specialize
>in
>crafting flutes from unusual and exotic wood. The Native American flute
>community is quite large and as a group, they have always have a strong
>spiritual side to their nature that is in some way connected to the
>flute. I must
>say also, that as a group they are the most sincere, honest, and caring
>people
>one would ever want to meet.
>There are those who believe that a tree that has been struck by
>lightning has
>been touched by God and may be changed in some way by that event. It may
Hi, Lee. Had you exposed some of that basis in the initial post, I'm
sure that fewer folks would have seen the humor in it and you would
have received fewer jokes and jabs. There are many trolls dragged
around in here and we respond with glee to those.
>give special virtues to that flute that it might not otherwise have.
>When I get
>a special request from someone, no matter how strange, I always make a
>good
>faith effort to meet that request. Who of us doesn't have some strange
>beliefs
>that might not stand up in the light of pure logic.
Then again, those who don't see the logic would have struck anyway.
<g>
>I certainly am not an expert on the subject of lightning struck wood,
>but I do
>know that there is intense, and sudden heat involved. It doesn't seen to
>far
>fetched to me that there might be some change at the cellular level that
>would
>change the characteristics of the wood. I'd sure like to know though,
>wouldn't
>you?
Yeah, I'd like to see the research results from that study, too.
>If you are really interested in my work, I invite you to visit my
>website. You
>can find it at: http://www.echoespast.com.
Nice work, and the tone of the flute in your sample is quite
beautiful. Do you use a lathe or are they all hand carved and
fire-drilled?
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I have 1" boards and one 2" plank. If butternut can satisfy your needs for
lightning struck wood email me. I am in southern Ontario, but the size you
would need for a flute.
Neat project, good luck
Bob Jones
Holstein, Ontario
Jon Schilling <jo...@worldaccessnet.com> wrote in message
news:8akh6...@news2.newsguy.com...
> Lee,
> I know folks think it is a joke about the lightning struck wood.
> I can't say for sure, but I think Ed Malthrop, the woodturner from
Atlanta,
> Georgia, always said that his purple Tulip Poplar bowls came from trees
> struck by lightning.
> I'd wager, if you were to contact him, he would
> verify the lightning bit, and I'd up the ante betting
> that he would get some lightning wood for you.
> I have not seen him in 20 years, but I understand he is still active. He
> has a son named Phillip who lives in the Atlanta area too.
> Good luck,
>
>
> --
> Jon Schilling
> Ridgefield, Wa USA (10 miles north of Portland, Ore)
> I know folks think it is a joke about the lightning struck wood.
> I can't say for sure, but I think Ed Malthrop, the woodturner from
Atlanta,
> Georgia, always said that his purple Tulip Poplar bowls came from trees
> struck by lightning.
Hey, I was cutting up some Tulip Poplar yesterday and found a purple streak
in an area, at first I thought it might have been from a nail, but I could
find no remains of it, and no rust/iron streaks.
It was a really neat colour.
Thanks,
David.
Newbies, please read this newsgroups FAQ.
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Thanks for giving the URL for your site. I would like to strongly
urge all of the people in this newsgroup to go and click on the sound
file you have. The sound of your flute is haunting. I also
appreciate your information about your background and philosophy about
your clients. I remember a time not too long ago when I took a trip
to the Pacific Northwest. I went to both Olympic and Ranier National
Park. While at those parks I took walks along trails populated by
absolutely aweinspiring trees. I don't know how anyone can walk among
those giants and not feel something deep. When I returned here to
Texas, where I make my home, I came to look at out own forests with a
new respect. We don't have the giants here that are found in other
parts of the U.S. because, by in large, they have all been cut down.
I have great respect for the native American outlook toward the Earth,
nature and God. If I am not mistaken, they take all of those concepts
to be united closely. I think that woodworkers, taken as a whole,
share the Native American respect and love of the higher power that is
responsible for the resource we use. Your work is excellent. Perhaps
a saw mill might be able to help. I tend to think the small
operations would be more likely to help you with your request. I wish
you well. I also thank you for making your excellent site available
to me. Thanks again,
John J. McGeough
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:30:19 GMT, Lee LaCroix <l...@echoespast.com>
wrote:
>OK Al, I just finished ironing my shorts, so I'll try to answer your
>reply. I've got
>to tell you, though, when I post a message to a news group and the first
>six replies
>come back with all manner of humor and ridicule designed to make me feel
>
>stupid, I got to ask if that's a news group I have any use for.
>Fortunately, there
>were some serious replies with good suggestions. To those people, I'd
>like to
>say thanks a bunch.
>I've been a Native American flute maker for some years now. I specialize
>in
>crafting flutes from unusual and exotic wood. The Native American flute
>community is quite large and as a group, they have always have a strong
>spiritual side to their nature that is in some way connected to the
>flute. I must
>say also, that as a group they are the most sincere, honest, and caring
>people
>one would ever want to meet.
>There are those who believe that a tree that has been struck by
>lightning has
>been touched by God and may be changed in some way by that event. It may
>
>give special virtues to that flute that it might not otherwise have.
>When I get
>a special request from someone, no matter how strange, I always make a
>good
>faith effort to meet that request. Who of us doesn't have some strange
>beliefs
>that might not stand up in the light of pure logic.
>I certainly am not an expert on the subject of lightning struck wood,
>but I do
>know that there is intense, and sudden heat involved. It doesn't seen to
>far
>fetched to me that there might be some change at the cellular level that
>would
>change the characteristics of the wood. I'd sure like to know though,
>wouldn't
>you?
>If you are really interested in my work, I invite you to visit my
>website. You
>can find it at: http://www.echoespast.com.
Hubbida, hubbida, hubbida.... I uhh... meant that figuratively!
: )
Al
It's prefered because some nimrod will pay big bucks for the "special"
wood. Sympathetic magic and all that stuff... "A fool and his money
will soon be parted".
Once again, you've proved Mark Twain correct...
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think about another trip, huh?
Kindest Regards,
Lee
"D.L." wrote:
>
> foxeye <fox...@ddyne.com> wrote in article
> <38d18ba6...@news.ddyne.com>...
> > Just what is lightning suppoxsed to do to the wood to make a flute out
> > of it andy better than a non-struck tree's wood? I have pines, and
> > oaks and a hickory and some others on my place all struck by the big
> > power surge in the sky, and when I burn it in a woodstove it all burns
> > the same, as well as looks the same when I am cutting it up, and
> > splitting it. So tell us what makes lightning struck wood so much
> > prefered.
> >
> > Just curious.
> > foxeye
> > On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:31:45 GMT, a...@bright.net (Al Taylor) wrote:
>
> Probably about as much as those magnets do for foot pain in Dr. Scholls
> "magnetic therapy" shoe inserts.....
>
> But...the person that wants it is a customer, so I can only assume he is
> going to charge apremium for this "rare" wood...and his troubles in
> finding it.....