On 9/18/2016 12:32 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 9/18/2016 5:37 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> In article <
lu6dnU_1IeP2c0DK...@giganews.com>,
>>
k...@nospam.com says...
>
>>> Since I use a Multi-Router for floating tenon joiner and I make all my
>>> tenons myself, begs a question:
>>>
>>> If the need arose is there any reason you can't cut a wider mortise with
>>> the domino (say one and a half or two passes) and make your own tenons?
>>
>> The internet abounds with method of making your own dominos. Google
>> "DIY domino tenons".
>
> The question was NOT about making tenons. But whether a wider mortise
> can be cut with the Domino by making multiple, _or overlapping_ , cuts
> (one and a half or two passes), with its usual ease and precision??
>
> On 9/18/2016 8:57 AM, Leon wrote:
>> It is relatively easy to make a tenons but not so much, precisely
>> sized. A
>> little to thin and alignment problems on mating pieces show up.
>
> Buying them is indeed more convenient, but I seriously question whether
> it is less expensive, or more precise. ;)
How much is your time worth? ;~) How much would you charge me to make
6,000 5mm x 30mm tennons with impressions on both sides?
>
> IME, cutting precise fitting floating tenons is no more difficult than
> cutting precisely dimensioned, in width and thickness, project stock.
True but there will be trials to get the "just right fit" each time you
decide to make more tenons.
>
> For the projects I do, like the chair reproductions, custom sized
> joinery has the same obvious benefits of any custom made endeavor over
> built in.
And for specific cases, making custom sized tenons is a worthwhile
process. But for routine mortises the standard sized Domino tenons will
suffice a majority of the time. I was not meaning to say that making
"custom sized" tenons is not worthwhile so much as making the exact same
sized as what you can easily buy is not so much of a time or money saver.
>
> I personally like the fact that I can size the joinery as precisely for
> the project dimensions as I can, as if I were cutting the mortise and
> tenon joinery by hand.
>
> With the added plus that the tenons will be of the same species, and
> with matching grain characteristics, which arguably benefits the
> strongest possible glue joint.
>
> I'm aware that is putting a fine point on it, but, after all, putting a
> fine point on things is how we both have been able to make a living
> doing what we do. LOL
;~)
>
>>> If the need arose is there any reason you can't cut a wider mortise
>>> with
>>> the domino (say one and a half or two passes) and make your own
>>> tenons?
>
>> No, I have cut wider slots but not for wider tenons. I cut wider
>> slots for screws to slide in.
>
> Your "No" Sounds more like a "Yes" to my question?
I'm breaking down your sentence....
is there any reason you can't cut a wider mortise with the domiono.....
No, there is no reason you can't cut a wider mortise with the domino. ;~)
>
> Let me rephrase:
>
> Can the Domino easily be used to facilitate, at least in in part, the
> custom aspect remarked upon above by using it to cut wider, _custom_
> width mortises?
>
> IOW, wider than its built-in width capacity; and, equally importantly,
> with its customary ease and accuracy?
Yes, you can cut a complete dado or groove all the way across or down
the edge of a board if you want so making a wider mortise than the
machine is normally set to cut is no issue.
The procedure is simply to move the domino the amount you want and make
an additional plunge. The add on accessory kit which adds indexing
wings on both sides of the Domino will aid in placement.
I would say that cutting a "PRECISE" wider width mortise might be a bit
problematic in some cases. IMHO it would be prudent to count on making
the mortise slightly wider than the actual width of the tenon.
Something I do on every one of my mating joints.
>
> Not arguing ... mine is a valid question, as I'm once again considering
> trading in my Multi-Router for a Domino to free up some shop space ...
> I'm tripping over every damned thing in the shop these days.
Well you are welcome to play with my Domino and get the feel and perhaps
I could better explain how you might go after some of your custom sized
mortises.
When I got my Domino it happened to not be "PERFECTLY" calibrated for
width of the mortise in relation to being centered between the indexing
pins. I talked to Feestool and they agreed to re-calibrate it within
weeks of buying it.
BUT they advised me how I can get around this situation should it become
a problem in the future. This is only an issue if the calibration is
off and you are using exact fit mortises on both pieces of material.
Because your use opposite sided indexing pins for mating pieces of
material any error is doubled. This is much easier illustrated than
explained.
At any rate thousands of mortises later I seldom if ever use the
indexing pins and am totally happy with the results.
Accuracy of the location of the mortise up and down is a non issue as
you reference the same faces of the material to cut the mortise.
I'll bring my Domino over tonight and splain'it.