Centipede Sawhorse!

[-MIKE-]

http://centipedetool.com/centipede-portable-work-system/

So I picked up one of these yesterday and can't wait to use it.
I've seen this product on the internet and have really wanted to try
one, but didn't want to pay the 80 bucks everyone was asking for it,
especially without getting my hands on it first.

I walk into Home Depot and there it is for $50, so I bit.
It's remarkably simple to set up, use, and tear down. It comes in a
carry bag, so it's perfect for me to throw in the van.

I love it so far and can't wait to put it through some real world testing.


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[Sonny]

On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 7:24:38 PM UTC-6, -MIKE- wrote:

> I've seen this product on the internet and have really wanted to try
> one, but didn't want to pay the 80 bucks everyone was asking for it,
> especially without getting my hands on it first.

For the extra $30, it will neigh for you.

> I love it so far and can't wait to put it through some real world testing.

Whinny do you plan to try it out?

Sonny

[-MIKE-]

Probably this week.

[DerbyDad03]

On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 8:24:38 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
> http://centipedetool.com/centipede-portable-work-system/
>
> So I picked up one of these yesterday and can't wait to use it.
> I've seen this product on the internet and have really wanted to try
> one, but didn't want to pay the 80 bucks everyone was asking for it,
> especially without getting my hands on it first.
>
> I walk into Home Depot and there it is for $50, so I bit.
> It's remarkably simple to set up, use, and tear down. It comes in a
> carry bag, so it's perfect for me to throw in the van.
>
> I love it so far and can't wait to put it through some real world testing.
>
>
> --
>
> -MIKE-
>

Here's my concern:

When I watch a manufacturer's video or commercial and something jumps
out at me that seems kind of strange, I often wonder "Why would the
manufacturer use those words or show that process?" Allow me to explain.

At 1:15 of the video on the website, the "professional contractor" tells
us that he's had the work table "for about 15 minutes now" followed by "I
can cut repetitious pieces on this all day long." The "all day long" is
said with emphasis.

I would find it tough to make such a claim after having a product for
only "15 minutes". Had the "contractor" used a more reasonable time
frame (all morning, 4 hours, a few hours, etc.) it wouldn't have
jumped out at me like "about 15 minutes" did.

Assuming the manufacturer wanted to be 100% honest, could it have hurt
to wait a few hours and then record the contractor's testimonial? If
they wanted to "lie" they could have easily had him say "a few hours".
I wouldn't even have blinked an eye. The mere fact that they allowed
"about 15 minutes" to be used makes we wonder about their other claims.

Do they really expect consumers to say "Wow, he's happy after using it
for 15 minutes. That's good enough for me, I buying one!"

[Swingman]

On 11/16/2015 8:45 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 8:24:38 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
>> http://centipedetool.com/centipede-portable-work-system/
>>
>> So I picked up one of these yesterday and can't wait to use it.
>> I've seen this product on the internet and have really wanted to try
>> one, but didn't want to pay the 80 bucks everyone was asking for it,
>> especially without getting my hands on it first.
>>
>> I walk into Home Depot and there it is for $50, so I bit.
>> It's remarkably simple to set up, use, and tear down. It comes in a
>> carry bag, so it's perfect for me to throw in the van.
>>
>> I love it so far and can't wait to put it through some real world testing.

> Do they really expect consumers to say "Wow, he's happy after using it
> for 15 minutes. That's good enough for me, I buying one!"

Experience will often let you know immediately if something is useful
after just a few seconds of use ... IOW, a professional "gut feeling". ;)

Let me put it this way for you. I've worked on enough job sites, and
spent lot$ of time on/setting up a decent work table solution for just
my part of the job, to plunk $50 down on just the appearance of the
portable, cost effective solution this appears to be.

Hell, for $50 I'll buy one for every job, and dumpster it at the end, if
it only lasts that long ...

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[Swingman]

On 11/15/2015 7:24 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>
> I love it so far and can't wait to put it through some real world testing.

Can't wait to hear the results of your testing.

[Unknown]

"Swingman" <k...@nospam.com> wrote

>
> Experience will often let you know immediately if something is useful
> after just a few seconds of use ... IOW, a professional "gut feeling". ;)
>
> Let me put it this way for you. I've worked on enough job sites, and spent
> lot$ of time on/setting up a decent work table solution for just my part
> of the job, to plunk $50 down on just the appearance of the portable, cost
> effective solution this appears to be.
>
> Hell, for $50 I'll buy one for every job, and dumpster it at the end, if
> it only lasts that long ...
>
>

I hear you Karl. I thought it looked good too. I see only two downsides.
1) It would need a fairly level surface to use it on. 2) You could not do
any pounding with a hammer or whatever on it. Those are minor things that
are easily set off by the sheer use and utility of something like this.

I probably would not need something like this very often. But I could have
really used something like this at least 3 or 4 times in the last two
months. I am just a guy who works around the house. Anybody who was very
busy or worked on jobsites could really use something like this. The genius
of it this product, as far as I am concerned, is that it folds up into a
neat little package that can be stored and transported easily.

When you see all kinds of gimmicks and junk out there, it is nice to see
something that looks like it actually serves a legitimate purpose. And for
the price, even if it does not last very long, it would be well worth it for
the sheer convenience and time savings. Particularly for sheet goods.

And Hey! As a musician, you are a master of "gut feelings"! ;-)

[Electric Comet]

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:24:33 -0600
-MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote:

> I walk into Home Depot and there it is for $50, so I bit.
> It's remarkably simple to set up, use, and tear down. It comes in a
> carry bag, so it's perfect for me to throw in the van.

looks too busy and also looks flimsy
all those cross braces would get in my way

and how durable is the material
will it handle getting banged around

seems gimmicky too

what is wrong with fold up steel horses

[Sonny]

On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 2:31:42 PM UTC-6, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:

> I probably would not need something like this very often. But I could have
> really used something like this at least 3 or 4 times in the last two
> months. I am just a guy who works around the house.

Similarly as I at the farm... no decent saw horses, often poor work areas. I've turned the 6' step ladder on its side (triangle shaped) for a sheet-good support & work surface, wobbles like hell. I hate working on the ground or on low surfaces, as the tipped ladder.

I may visit HD and checkem out.

Sonny

[Unknown]

Sonny <cedar...@aol.com> wrote in
news:38981ccd-5ed3-4f19...@googlegroups.com:

>
> Similarly as I at the farm... no decent saw horses, often poor work
> areas. I've turned the 6' step ladder on its side (triangle shaped)
> for a sheet-good support & work surface, wobbles like hell. I hate
> working on the ground or on low surfaces, as the tipped ladder.
>
> I may visit HD and checkem out.
>
> Sonny

Those sheet metal collapsable sheet metal saw horses Menards carries are
really a good deal, especially on sale. They last quite nicely and fold up
into a space about 6x6x36. You may want to put a board on top, but they've
drilled holes to make that easy.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

[Leon]

On 11/16/2015 3:40 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:24:33 -0600
> -MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote:
>
>> I walk into Home Depot and there it is for $50, so I bit.
>> It's remarkably simple to set up, use, and tear down. It comes in a
>> carry bag, so it's perfect for me to throw in the van.
>
> looks too busy and also looks flimsy
> all those cross braces would get in my way

I wonder how they would get in your way.

>
> and how durable is the material
> will it handle getting banged around
>
> seems gimmicky too

Almost the same principal as a supports for tents. Those hold up bery well.

>
> what is wrong with fold up steel horses

Weight and size. Remember this is for portability to take to a job
site. Or anywhere you need a quick set up.

[Bill]

You going to leave an open gallon of your Sherwin Williams paint on
it? : )

[Unquestionably Confused]

I just can't see any validity to the "Comets" concerns.

I need more saw horses like Custer needed more pissed off Native
Americans but the portability and compactness of these has me
considering a trip to the HD to pick one up. I no longer want to get
down on my knees to break down a 4'x8' piece of ply. With the structure
of these and ability to use some clamps, this size should make tackling
a sheet of goods at normal work level a piece of cake.

EC? when you think about flimsy, consider engineered trusses. Same
general principal.

[Unquestionably Confused]

On 11/16/2015 6:10 PM, Leon wrote:

I just can't see any validity to the "Comet's" concerns.

[-MIKE-]

On 11/16/15 2:31 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
>
>
> "Swingman" <k...@nospam.com> wrote
>>
>> Experience will often let you know immediately if something is useful
>> after just a few seconds of use ... IOW, a professional "gut feeling". ;)
>>
>> Let me put it this way for you. I've worked on enough job sites, and
>> spent lot$ of time on/setting up a decent work table solution for just
>> my part of the job, to plunk $50 down on just the appearance of the
>> portable, cost effective solution this appears to be.
>>
>> Hell, for $50 I'll buy one for every job, and dumpster it at the end,
>> if it only lasts that long ...
>>
>>
> I hear you Karl. I thought it looked good too. I see only two
> downsides. 1) It would need a fairly level surface to use it on.

This has only 6 points of contact vs. 8 for two sawhorses. Non-issue.

> 2)
> You could not do any pounding with a hammer or whatever on it. Those
> are minor things that are easily set off by the sheer use and utility of
> something like this.
>

These legs are extremely strong. They seems to be carbon fiber or some
other composite. Pound away. It's rated for 1500lbs.

> The genius of it this product, as far as I am concerned, is that
> it folds up into a neat little package that can be stored and
> transported easily.
>

YEP!!!

[-MIKE-]

On 11/16/15 3:40 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:24:33 -0600 -MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I walk into Home Depot and there it is for $50, so I bit. It's
>> remarkably simple to set up, use, and tear down. It comes in a
>> carry bag, so it's perfect for me to throw in the van.
>
> looks too busy and also looks flimsy

They aren't flimsy at all. Not any more that metal guy-wires that hold
up steel girders.
The legs are much stronger/stiffer than they look.

> all those cross braces would get in my way
>

I don't spend a lot of time working *under* my sawhorses.

> and how durable is the material will it handle getting banged around
>

We'll find out. As i stated above, the materials are stronger than they
first appear.

> seems gimmicky too
>

So did air nailers when they first came out.

> what is wrong with fold up steel horses
>

Nothing, except they take longer to set-up/tear down, and require two
hands to carry.

Oh, and what is wrong with punctuation?
Seriously, is there a reason you refuse to use basic punctuation? It
makes reading your posts difficult. If you have some sort of disability
that prevents it, I totally understand. But if you're just too lazy,
typing from a phone or something, then please.

[-MIKE-]

On 11/16/15 6:20 PM, Bill wrote:
>>
> You going to leave an open gallon of your Sherwin Williams paint on
> it? : )
>

Yes.

Lots of baseless assumption flying around in here.
Par for the course, though. :-D

[Leon]

Should not be an issue but FWIW I don't leave open gallons of anything,
even on the floor.

[Swingman]

On 11/16/2015 3:44 PM, Sonny wrote:

> I may visit HD and checkem out.

Have a $100 HD gift certificate, and $146 store return ... know now
where part of it is going.

My HD has 5 in stock, but would prefer to find the larger 4x8 model.

[sawdustmaker]

DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> wrote in
news:0cc5e70a-4d41-494f...@googlegroups.com:

>
> Here's my concern:
> ...

> At 1:15 of the video on the website, the "professional contractor"
> tells us that he's had the work table "for about 15 minutes now"
> followed by "I can cut repetitious pieces on this all day long." The
> "all day long" is said with emphasis.
>
> I would find it tough to make such a claim after having a product for
> only "15 minutes". Had the "contractor" used a more reasonable time
> frame (all morning, 4 hours, a few hours, etc.) it wouldn't have
> jumped out at me like "about 15 minutes" did.
>

I agree. The part that got me was him saying "I can make repeated cuts on
this all day long." The chopsaw is doing the cutting not what the saw is
sitting on. Not being able to cut has nothing to do with the sawhorse. oh
excuse me the "portable support system."

[Swingman]

On 11/16/2015 6:46 PM, Leon wrote:
> Should not be an issue but FWIW I don't leave open gallons of anything,
> even on the floor.

And, even closed ones on the floor board of your truck.

First day on a job a few years back, a gallon fell out of my truck as we
were carrying them in, and I spent the next hour chasing the yellow
river down the driveway and street gutter while trying to erase the
evidence leading directly back to the client's house ... oops.

[Unquestionably Confused]

On 11/16/2015 6:49 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 11/16/2015 3:44 PM, Sonny wrote:
>
>> I may visit HD and checkem out.
>
> Have a $100 HD gift certificate, and $146 store return ... know now
> where part of it is going.
>
> My HD has 5 in stock, but would prefer to find the larger 4x8 model.

I was thinking along the same lines but...

1) the 2x4 is all that HD carries

2) Their price for the 2x4 is ~ $20 cheaper for the same thing through
Amazon Prime with free shipping

3) Two of the 2x4 from HD MIGHT work out to be better than a single 4x8
from anywhere else.

4) Financially, HD is the winner as I believe you can get three of the
2x4 for less than one of the 4x8

5) as I ponder this immensely complex issue, I suspect that having three
of the 2x4 may be much better than a single 4 x8. At least for how I'm
thinking of putting it to use here.

Just my $ 0.02

[Swingman]

On 11/16/2015 2:31 PM, Lee Michaels wrote:
> I see only two downsides. 1) It would need a fairly level surface to use
> it on.

One of my thoughts, but one of the Home Depot reviews mentions, as a
plus, how well it works on uneven ground.

[Swingman]

On 11/16/2015 7:01 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:

> 5) as I ponder this immensely complex issue, I suspect that having three
> of the 2x4 may be much better than a single 4 x8. At least for how I'm
> thinking of putting it to use here.

Not above giving that a try.
Besides, work surfaces, particularly on a job site, are like clamps ...

[Unquestionably Confused]

Starting to get off my butt and conduct a bit of due diligence.

Found this review at Home Despot


I have owned a larger model (4X8) for over a year. I believe I bought
one of the first units sold. I have used my system over a dozen times.
No issues so far. Very easy to set-up and replace into carry bag. One
nice surprise to me was it's ** ability to self level on uneven ground
where I set it up.**

Rick
Pros: Sturdy, Nice Design

Lowe's also carries them - both models - at $50 and $100 respectively.

Only the 4x8 is reviewed at Lowe's but with 11 reviews there isn't a
sour note among them.

I'm sold

[Leon]

On 11/16/2015 6:49 PM, Swingman wrote:

> On 11/16/2015 3:44 PM, Sonny wrote:
>
>> I may visit HD and checkem out.
>
> Have a $100 HD gift certificate, and $146 store return ... know now
> where part of it is going.
>
> My HD has 5 in stock, but would prefer to find the larger 4x8 model.
>

http://www.rockler.com/centipede-sawhorse?sid=V2911&utm_source=bronto&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Image+-+K100+Centipede+Sahorse&utm_content=Savings+Come+Early:+Pre-Black+Friday+Deals+On+Now!&utm_campaign=111515_b_d_25%2BShipping%2BPreBlackFriDeals_V2911

[Leon]

On 11/16/2015 7:01 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:

> On 11/16/2015 6:49 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 11/16/2015 3:44 PM, Sonny wrote:
>>
>>> I may visit HD and checkem out.
>>
>> Have a $100 HD gift certificate, and $146 store return ... know now
>> where part of it is going.
>>
>> My HD has 5 in stock, but would prefer to find the larger 4x8 model.
>
> I was thinking along the same lines but...
>
> 1) the 2x4 is all that HD carries
>
> 2) Their price for the 2x4 is ~ $20 cheaper for the same thing through
> Amazon Prime with free shipping
>
> 3) Two of the 2x4 from HD MIGHT work out to be better than a single 4x8
> from anywhere else.

Maybe but still half the size of a 4x8.

>
> 4) Financially, HD is the winner as I believe you can get three of the
> 2x4 for less than one of the 4x8

It would take 4, 2x4 to equal a 4x8. But that might be more useable.
Just keep in mind that the smaller one is 1/4 the size of the larger one.

[Leon]

On 11/16/2015 6:56 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 11/16/2015 6:46 PM, Leon wrote:
>> Should not be an issue but FWIW I don't leave open gallons of anything,
>> even on the floor.
>
> And, even closed ones on the floor board of your truck.
>
> First day on a job a few years back, a gallon fell out of my truck as we
> were carrying them in, and I spent the next hour chasing the yellow
> river down the driveway and street gutter while trying to erase the
> evidence leading directly back to the client's house ... oops.
>

;~) Now did you really say, oops? LOL

[Bill]

Leon wrote:
> On 11/16/2015 7:01 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
>> On 11/16/2015 6:49 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 11/16/2015 3:44 PM, Sonny wrote:
>>>
>>>> I may visit HD and checkem out.
>>>
>>> Have a $100 HD gift certificate, and $146 store return ... know now
>>> where part of it is going.
>>>
>>> My HD has 5 in stock, but would prefer to find the larger 4x8 model.
>>
>> I was thinking along the same lines but...
>>
>> 1) the 2x4 is all that HD carries
>>
>> 2) Their price for the 2x4 is ~ $20 cheaper for the same thing through
>> Amazon Prime with free shipping
>>
>> 3) Two of the 2x4 from HD MIGHT work out to be better than a single 4x8
>> from anywhere else.
>
>
> Maybe but still half the size of a 4x8.

2'x4' is one-quarter the size of 4'x8'.

[Bill]

Bill wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> On 11/16/2015 7:01 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
>>> On 11/16/2015 6:49 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 11/16/2015 3:44 PM, Sonny wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I may visit HD and checkem out.
>>>>
>>>> Have a $100 HD gift certificate, and $146 store return ... know now
>>>> where part of it is going.
>>>>
>>>> My HD has 5 in stock, but would prefer to find the larger 4x8 model.
>>>
>>> I was thinking along the same lines but...
>>>
>>> 1) the 2x4 is all that HD carries
>>>
>>> 2) Their price for the 2x4 is ~ $20 cheaper for the same thing through
>>> Amazon Prime with free shipping
>>>
>>> 3) Two of the 2x4 from HD MIGHT work out to be better than a single
>>> 4x8
>>> from anywhere else.
>>
>>
>> Maybe but still half the size of a 4x8.
>
> 2'x4' is one-quarter the size of 4'x8'.

Oh, I see you were referring to *two* of them. Got it.

[-MIKE-]

On 11/16/15 10:43 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> 3) Two of the 2x4 from HD MIGHT work out to be better than a single 4x8
>>> from anywhere else.
>>
>>
>> Maybe but still half the size of a 4x8.
>
> 2'x4' is one-quarter the size of 4'x8'.

Exactly. Which is why Karl said 2 of those would be half of the 4x8. :-D

[Scott Lurndal]

Electric Comet <electri...@mail.invalid> writes:
>On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:24:33 -0600
>-MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote:
>
>> I walk into Home Depot and there it is for $50, so I bit.
>> It's remarkably simple to set up, use, and tear down. It comes in a
>> carry bag, so it's perfect for me to throw in the van.
>
>looks too busy and also looks flimsy
>all those cross braces would get in my way

You sure are a downer. You've never used the product,
you've never even _seen_ the product in real life, yet
you hold forth with disdain.

[Unquestionably Confused]

But, Scott, he posted that almost TWO WHOLE DAYS AGO.

That he was able to come up with that critique is testament to his
brilliance.

By now he knows more about it than the inventor or any of the users -
especially those who've posted reviews after actually having used the
sawhorse.

We're still waiting for photos of his latest project so we can settle
our bets: Did he use 10P or 16P nails and did he clinch them or were
they just toe nailed?

LOL

[Leon]

On 11/16/2015 10:43 PM, Bill wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>> On 11/16/2015 7:01 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
>>> On 11/16/2015 6:49 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 11/16/2015 3:44 PM, Sonny wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I may visit HD and checkem out.
>>>>
>>>> Have a $100 HD gift certificate, and $146 store return ... know now
>>>> where part of it is going.
>>>>
>>>> My HD has 5 in stock, but would prefer to find the larger 4x8 model.
>>>
>>> I was thinking along the same lines but...
>>>
>>> 1) the 2x4 is all that HD carries
>>>
>>> 2) Their price for the 2x4 is ~ $20 cheaper for the same thing through
>>> Amazon Prime with free shipping
>>>
>>> 3) Two of the 2x4 from HD MIGHT work out to be better than a single 4x8
>>> from anywhere else.
>>
>>
>> Maybe but still half the size of a 4x8.
>
> 2'x4' is one-quarter the size of 4'x8'.
>>

Correct, but 2 of the 2x4, as mentioned on line 3, the line I commented
on, is 1/2

[Leon]

On 11/16/2015 10:45 PM, Bill wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> Leon wrote:
>>> On 11/16/2015 7:01 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
>>>> On 11/16/2015 6:49 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>>>> On 11/16/2015 3:44 PM, Sonny wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I may visit HD and checkem out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a $100 HD gift certificate, and $146 store return ... know now
>>>>> where part of it is going.
>>>>>
>>>>> My HD has 5 in stock, but would prefer to find the larger 4x8 model.
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking along the same lines but...
>>>>
>>>> 1) the 2x4 is all that HD carries
>>>>
>>>> 2) Their price for the 2x4 is ~ $20 cheaper for the same thing through
>>>> Amazon Prime with free shipping
>>>>
>>>> 3) Two of the 2x4 from HD MIGHT work out to be better than a single
>>>> 4x8
>>>> from anywhere else.
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe but still half the size of a 4x8.
>>
>> 2'x4' is one-quarter the size of 4'x8'.
> Oh, I see you were referring to *two* of them. Got it.
>

;~) And now I see you correction. LOL

[Leon]

On 11/16/2015 10:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/16/15 10:43 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>> 3) Two of the 2x4 from HD MIGHT work out to be better than a single
>>>> 4x8
>>>> from anywhere else.
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe but still half the size of a 4x8.
>>
>> 2'x4' is one-quarter the size of 4'x8'.
>
> Exactly. Which is why Karl said 2 of those would be half of the 4x8. :-D
>
>

I think it was me, Karl's brother, that said that. LOL

[-MIKE-]

You Texans all look alike.

[krw]

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 11:03:29 -0600, -MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
wrote:

>On 11/17/15 8:40 AM, Leon wrote:
>> On 11/16/2015 10:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 11/16/15 10:43 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>>>> 3) Two of the 2x4 from HD MIGHT work out to be better than a single
>>>>>> 4x8
>>>>>> from anywhere else.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe but still half the size of a 4x8.
>>>>
>>>> 2'x4' is one-quarter the size of 4'x8'.
>>>
>>> Exactly. Which is why Karl said 2 of those would be half of the
>>> 4x8. :-D
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I think it was me, Karl's brother, that said that. LOL
>
>You Texans all look alike.

They all talk funny, too (been married to one for 44 years ;-).

[Swingman]

On 11/17/2015 8:40 AM, Leon wrote:

> I think it was me, Karl's brother, that said that. LOL

Mom always liked you best ...
LOL

[Electric Comet]

On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:28:58 -0600
-MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote:

> These legs are extremely strong. They seems to be carbon fiber or
> some other composite. Pound away. It's rated for 1500lbs.

they are steel legs
if they were carbon fiber they would not last long after some rough and
tumble use

also not sure how a static load of 1500 pounds is relevant
i think it is just a marketing pitch

i would not want to be anywhere near that when it has 1500 pounds
on it

[Bill]

Or, maybe get some beer and challenge your friends to see how many can
stand on it...

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[-MIKE-]

On 11/17/15 12:58 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:28:58 -0600 -MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
> wrote:
>
>> These legs are extremely strong. They seems to be carbon fiber or
>> some other composite. Pound away. It's rated for 1500lbs.
>
> they are steel legs if they were carbon fiber they would not last
> long after some rough and tumble use
>
> also not sure how a static load of 1500 pounds is relevant i think it
> is just a marketing pitch
>

Can you produce 1500lbs of force with a hammer?

> i would not want to be anywhere near that when it has 1500 pounds on
> it
>

They show several videos of guys loading 2500lbs pallets of sand and
other materials on it with no problems.

Yes, these claims are marketing pitch and that doesn't bother me a bit,
because they are true claims and I'm not some moron who thinks they are
actually recommending this product to be used for storing pallets of
concrete blocks.

They are illustrations that are very good at showing how strong these
things are.
But there are still people like you who haven't put your hands on one,
who have some sort of negative agenda who will take any opportunity to
try to discredit it.

Do us all a favor and discover punctuation.

[Electric Comet]

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:43:13 -0600
-MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote:

> who have some sort of negative agenda who will take any opportunity to
> try to discredit it.

sounds like you have a horse in the race and not just the one you bought

they just seem like over kill to me
with so many pieces it just means more things to break and replace

in what ways do simple folding steel horses do not work for you

how are these better

[Unknown]

Bill <BILL_...@whoknows.net> wrote in news:n2ftv...@news4.newsguy.com:

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> Or, maybe get some beer and challenge your friends to see how many can
> stand on it...
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Nice legs!

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

[-MIKE-]

On 11/17/15 1:55 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:43:13 -0600 -MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
> wrote:
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>> who have some sort of negative agenda who will take any opportunity
>> to try to discredit it.
>
> sounds like you have a horse in the race and not just the one you
> bought
>

False. I just don't like when people throw out negative assumptions
about product when they've never touch it. And even worse, when having
been told their assumption are false by someone who's actually used the
product, they fail to back off.

> they just seem like over kill to me with so many pieces it just means
> more things to break and replace
>

False logic. Once again with the ignorant assumption that they are
prone to breaking just because there are more of them. There are more
studs in a longer wall, so what? If you had actually put your hands on
one and inspected it, i wouldn't have an issue because yours would then
be an informed opinion based on a modicum of experience instead of total
conjecture.

> in what ways do simple folding steel horses do not work for you
>
> how are these better
>

Well, I already answered that question from you, to you, in this thread.
But I'll repeat: folding steel horses take longer to set-up/tear down,
and require two
hands to carry, have eight points of contact with the ground instead of
only six, they are awkward to carry and load in my van, take up more
room in the van, slide around more and make more noise when doing so,
and a few more things that don't need expressed, because....

You imply that these in some way *need* to be better than folding steel
horses in order to be valid or have value as a tool. More false logic.
Better is certainly a subjective quality, one that comes from personal
preference most often gained by actually *using* something, which you
have not.

[Leon]

On 11/17/2015 1:55 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:43:13 -0600
> -MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote:
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>> who have some sort of negative agenda who will take any opportunity to
>> try to discredit it.
>
> sounds like you have a horse in the race and not just the one you bought

Raeille, U thank e's got whorses?

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> they just seem like over kill to me
> with so many pieces it just means more things to break and replace

oer kil? 1st u say flimsy now or'k?

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> in what ways do simple folding steel horses do not work for you

2ne tim axked and anwered. bulkie and unlite wait.

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> how are these better

2ne tim axked and anwered

[Leon]

On 11/17/2015 11:03 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 11/17/15 8:40 AM, Leon wrote:
>> On 11/16/2015 10:47 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> On 11/16/15 10:43 PM, Bill wrote:
>>>>>> 3) Two of the 2x4 from HD MIGHT work out to be better than a single
>>>>>> 4x8
>>>>>> from anywhere else.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe but still half the size of a 4x8.
>>>>
>>>> 2'x4' is one-quarter the size of 4'x8'.
>>>
>>> Exactly. Which is why Karl said 2 of those would be half of the
>>> 4x8. :-D
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I think it was me, Karl's brother, that said that. LOL
>
> You Texans all look alike.
>
>

Ruggedly handsome. I know. ;~)

[Leon]

On 11/17/2015 12:54 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 11/17/2015 8:40 AM, Leon wrote:
>
>> I think it was me, Karl's brother, that said that. LOL
>
> Mom always liked you best ...
> LOL
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Nope, the oldest is always the faveret. ;~)

[krw]

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 16:57:40 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

would you stop with the punctuation already

[Electric Comet]

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 16:39:26 -0600
-MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote:

> False logic. Once again with the ignorant assumption that they are
> prone to breaking just because there are more of them. There are more

no logic involved it is very simple math
more pieces means more chance for something to break

> You imply that these in some way *need* to be better than folding
> steel horses in order to be valid or have value as a tool. More

no false logic i just like simpler tools because in the long run they
break less and are more reliable


wait until one of those cross pieces bends

now it will not fold and unfold as smoothly and i do not know what will
happen to weight distribution either because the design relies on a
specific shape to hold the engineered weight

one bent cross piece could ruin the whole day

[-MIKE-]

I've grown tired of your nonsense and your continued disregard for basic
written communication skills.

[Jack]

On 11/16/2015 6:04 PM, Puckdropper wrote:

> Those sheet metal collapsable sheet metal saw horses Menards carries are
> really a good deal, especially on sale. They last quite nicely and fold up
> into a space about 6x6x36. You may want to put a board on top, but they've
> drilled holes to make that easy.

My Dad had a set of those 60 years ago. I don't know who made them but
they were light, easy to set up and took up almost no room, perhaps less
room than the centipede. The legs quickly fold up into the head and you
could toss them in the back of a truck.

This centipede looks like it will hold plenty of weight, but doesn't
look like it would take much lateral force w/o wobbling? Looking at a
few videos, I hadn't noticed any of them grabbing an edge and giving it
a good shake. That I would have to see, or do before buying.

Also, it looks like a 4x8 just barely fits along the edges, so any
movement and it would be off the edge. The 2x4 without center legs,
this would be a particularly bad situation.

As far as easy set up and tear down, if it must go in a bag, that would
be a pia if you ask me. I'd rather have some sort of belt to hold it
together so it doesn't spread out when you toss it in the truck.

Myself, I made my own fold up horses that are a little heavy, and bigger
than than the steel fold ups, but the cross piece is just a 2x4, or 2x6
that you can cut through and replace, which is nice. I hang them on the
side of my shed with a french cleat.

http://jbstein.com/Flick/SH1050406.JPG
http://jbstein.com/Flick/SH1050408.JPG
http://jbstein.com/Flick/SH1050410.JPG

These get very little use, and always at home, so size and weight is a
non-issue for me. More important to me is I made them. I like using
stuff I make. If a were toting them around every day making a living, I
think I would get the Minards folding metal ones, but would take a look
at the centipede.
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com

[Jack]

On 11/16/2015 7:10 PM, Leon wrote:

> Almost the same principal as a supports for tents. Those hold up bery
> well.

Those legs look a little unstable to me. I would want to grab hold of
the edge and shake it to see if it wobbles before I'd buy one.

>> what is wrong with fold up steel horses
>
> Weight and size. Remember this is for portability to take to a job
> site. Or anywhere you need a quick set up.

We have a set of really, really old fold up metal horses, similar to the
Menard's fold ups, and they are really light, and compact, super
portable, strong and take about 4 seconds to set up and take down. I
say this is a non-issue. The Menard's look like they have carry handles
under the head, which is even better. The Centipede contraption looks
like it must go in the bag to carry around. That sucks. I'd prefer a
belt around it to keep it from spreading all over the place when
carrying it around, or tossing in the truck.

Anyway, I tend to lean towards what the Comet had to say about it.

[Sonny]

On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 12:06:10 PM UTC-6, Jack wrote:

> This centipede looks like it will hold plenty of weight, but doesn't
> look like it would take much lateral force w/o wobbling? Looking at a
> few videos, I hadn't noticed any of them grabbing an edge and giving it
> a good shake. That I would have to see, or do before buying.
>

Fully open, it's very stable. I doubt anyone from HD or Lowes would object to opening one up and give it an in-store test. Have someone open it in the ply department and toss a sheet on top. .... no more inconvenient than having all those lumber carts in the aisles.

> As far as easy set up and tear down, if it must go in a bag, that would
> be a pia if you ask me. I'd rather have some sort of belt to hold it
> together so it doesn't spread out when you toss it in the truck.

It comes with a carry bag.

Sonny