what to do with a burned out house

[Electric Comet]

the house did not look that bad from the outside

but i read that it was gutted inside by fire although i did not see
any broken windows or smoke damage


https://www.youtube.com/embed/pGXFBYZRneQ


not sure why they overflowed the bin and did not move the shredder


also it is not really a very good thing for the env

you now have created a pile of mixed waste

unless you are in austria and can dump it all into your plasma based
electric generation facility you just create more landfill


but it does minimize demo time

[DerbyDad03]

Do you not see the 3 window openings on the second floor that don't
have any panes in them? How about the 4th one that only has (cracked)
glass at the top?

[Scott Lurndal]

Electric Comet <electri...@mail.invalid> writes:
>the house did not look that bad from the outside

Ask somewhere else. This newsgroup is for woodworking.

[MOP CAP]

On 2016-07-22 18:02:15 +0000, DerbyDad03 said:

>> www.youtube.com

I have a cabin that I almost lost in the Butte [California] fire last
year. Several hundred homes nearby were lost.The residue from these
houses cannot just be put in an ordinary land fill or burried on site.
CA has two special ones for the entire state. All of the residue had to
be trucked to one of these. There were multitudes of 10 wheeler and 18
wheeler trucks going fotr months. One Sunday morning as we were comming
home, in an 8 mile stretch of road, we counted over 80. Unless you are
involved in a fire you tend to think that once the fire is out it is
over. It is almost a year now and there are still multiple clean up
operations going on.

CP

[Sonny]

On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 12:27:49 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> the house did not look that bad from the outside
>

Sometimes, it doesn't matter how little a house is burned, you can't get rid of the smoke smell, so most folks demo a burned house and rebuild.

My shop was once a rent house, whose back bedroom caught fire and adjacent rooms (more so the ceilings near the AC vents) were charred, with smoke stains/damage. After the fire was out, the front of the house still looked *normal. Only the back bedroom window showed evidence of fire.

*I say the front looked normal. The old house looked like crap anyway, badly needing repairs and a paint job, so normal is a misnomer.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/4033313690/in/photostream

I've gutted the whole house, all but a back bath and utility room. Those rooms are junk storage, now, but hopefully will finish their remodeling, someday. *I suppose there have been times, while working on it, that I've smelled worse than burnt-house smell.

Depending on the damage and location, sometimes you can salvage something... at least for shop use.

Sonny

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On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 10:24:46 -0700, Electric Comet
<electri...@mail.invalid> wrote:

>the house did not look that bad from the outside
>
>but i read that it was gutted inside by fire although i did not see
>any broken windows or smoke damage
>
>
>https://www.youtube.com/embed/pGXFBYZRneQ

Definite black smoke stains on/around both vents near peak of roof.

Hard to tell internal damage from smoke/water unless you've been
inside.

[Electric Comet]

On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 20:37:53 -0400
ads wrote:

> Definite black smoke stains on/around both vents near peak of roof.

looks like it was more smoke damage than fire damage

the final pile has very little burnt stuff

but i guess the insurance company gave them the free pass to rebuild
so they decided to tear down what looks like a nice farm house


no doubt they think that a new house will be so much better

but it will just a be a new different set of problems

[k...@attt.bizz]

But another fire due to tired wiring won't be one of them.

[bnw...@gmail.com]

It is not unusual for smoke and water damage to exceed that of the actual fire...

[Ed Pawlowski]

Given a choice, I'd rather have a new house with mediocre construction
than an old house that needs major upgrading of questionable wiring,
plumbing, heating systems.

I say mediocre because that is best you will get from an insurance
settlement. If you have some money to add you could get first class.

[Electric Comet]

On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 07:08:25 -0400
Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:

> I say mediocre because that is best you will get from an insurance
> settlement. If you have some money to add you could get first class.

depends on what coverage you paid for


rebuilding a house like that can also be a disaster for a family and or
a relationship

it can also improve the family and or relationship


can go either way

all in all i would say that this method of demoing a home is far from
ideal


down along the southern borders i have seen crews from mexico dismantle
a house piece by piece numbering the pieces and stacking on trucks in the
order it came off

a crew of 5 or so reduced a house to truck loads and drove it south and
rebuilt there

the crew i saw only had two or three trucks so they had to make multiple
trips and these were not tractor trailers these were just flat bed trucks


it was less than a week and the house was gone
saved the builder a lot of money in disposal fees and the house lives on
instead of being buried in a landfill

[DerbyDad03]

Apples and Oranges

In one case they moved an (I assume) house that was in livable condition
before and after. In the other, they demo-ed a house that had been on fire.

You posted a video of the outside of a "what looks like a nice farm house".
You also said "I did not see any broken windows or smoke damage". You can't
see smoke damage from the outside and it appears that you totally missed
that the upstairs windows were either missing completely or extensively
damages.

In other words, you really have no clue as to the condition of the interior.
To imply that it would have been a better idea to move the house makes no
sense considering that you have no idea about what was salvageable and what wasn't.