More Burnt Wood Finishing-- his time a cabinet.

[-MIKE-]

A while back, I posted a pic of the burnt shelves I made for the Pub my
friend owns.
They have this really awkward L-shape space behind the bar that nothing
will fit into, so I'm making a custom open cabinet fit in the space.
They like the burnt shelves so much they want the cabinet and more
shelves to match.

Here's how it's going so far...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/RQktW1PSEvSwyFn37


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

[OFWW]

On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:14:54 -0500, -MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
wrote:

>A while back, I posted a pic of the burnt shelves I made for the Pub my
>friend owns.
>They have this really awkward L-shape space behind the bar that nothing
>will fit into, so I'm making a custom open cabinet fit in the space.
>They like the burnt shelves so much they want the cabinet and more
>shelves to match.
>
>Here's how it's going so far...
>https://photos.app.goo.gl/RQktW1PSEvSwyFn37

WOW! That is some awesome artistic looks you have there. I remember
the shelving you made, if these patterns can be made permanent it
should be a match made in heaven. :)

[-MIKE-]

Thank you.

It doesn't have quite the safe effect on plywood as it does on solid
wood, but I think it still looks pretty good. Considering once it's
installed and filled with bottles, nobody's going to see the plywood
sections anyway, I'm ok with it.

There will be more shelves, like the previous ones, on top of this
cabinet. They are being made of the same edge-glued panels as the
originals.

[Rick the antique guy]

Cool Effect Mike I have never done this. but I dabbled with something called Pyrography or pyrogravure which is a fancy name for wood burning I had to replace a missing panel in a small cabinet very tedious work I must say much more awkward than a Pencil or Fountain pen.
Nice Work Mike
rick B.

[nailsh...@aol.com]

> On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:14:54 -0500, -MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
> wrote:

> >Here's how it's going so far...
> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/RQktW1PSEvSwyFn37

Nicely done! I actually like that effect a lot if done sparingly as it isn't done much. It makes the work seem more like a "feature".

Good job on getting it even, too!

Robert

[-MIKE-]

I did a pure carnauba wax finish on a bass drum that a friend/colleague
had burned in the way you describe. It was very artistic work. I'll
see if I can find a picture of it.

Here's the burning technique I use for these projects.

https://youtu.be/ENOTocaMwxw

[-MIKE-]

Thanks, Robert. It's not easy to get it even on some of these imported
products. I'm not sure why. In any case, you can always sand out some
of the burn to fine tune it.

[Leon]

On 5/9/2018 4:14 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> A while back, I posted a pic of the burnt shelves I made for the Pub my
> friend owns.
> They have this really awkward L-shape space behind the bar that nothing
> will fit into, so I'm making a custom open cabinet fit in the space.
> They like the burnt shelves so much they want the cabinet and more
> shelves to match.
>
> Here's how it's going so far...
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/RQktW1PSEvSwyFn37
>
>

Looks great! Kinda reminds me of decoupage, very popular in the 60's

[Jack]

On 5/10/2018 8:41 PM, -MIKE- wrote:

> I did a pure carnauba wax finish on a bass drum that a friend/colleague
> had burned in the way you describe. It was very artistic work. I'll
> see if I can find a picture of it.
>
> Here's the burning technique I use for these projects.
>
> https://youtu.be/ENOTocaMwxw

My favorite woodworker, TV Star, Entertainer, Buckin' Billy Billy Ray
Smith (not really any of these things, he's actually a chainsaw guru,
and has hundreds of youtube videos on cuttin', climbin' and even buckin'
trees) He also sells axes and burns all his ax handles. He also burned
his living room floor, and all the walls and floors in his new shed.

Anyway, he has videos of burning his new shed floors and walls, but I
couldn't find them but did find this one of him burning his living room
floor. If you like cuttin' and buckin' this guy is awesome. BTW, he is
also a drummer, sort of, and plays the harpoon really well. He plays
with his mom, who is a singer and they are pretty good. A lot of his
videos have his or their music in them.

Here is a video I found of him burning his floors in the house. Also
has some drumming in it, but 90% of his videos are him cuttin' wood.
Find some of him climbing and you should enjoy him. The more you watch
him, the better it gets. Note all his drums at the end of the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn8O180-qs

I watch youtube on TV instead of TV and he is generally better than
anything on regular tv. He puts out at least a video a day... He is not
an instructor in the least, just loves what he's been doing
professionally his whole life, and it comes through in his videos.
After watching 10 or 20 of them he becomes a friend you love watching.


--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
http://jbstein.com

[dpb]

On 5/9/2018 4:14 PM, -MIKE- wrote:

...

> They like the burnt shelves so much they want the cabinet and more
> shelves to match.
>
> Here's how it's going so far...
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/RQktW1PSEvSwyFn37

There's no accounting for taste... :)

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[-MIKE-]

It's not for everyone.
The client loves it. Win.

[Rick the antique guy]

I love the Pics of Your Shop Jack, a lot of similar tools and some old school stuff.
I am a 4th generation woody and I have some if my Great Grandfarhers,Grandfathers and all of my Fathers tools and Equiptment.
Plus all of my own machinist and woodworking tools I bought new or at yard sales.
I am a just Tool junkie and shop is a bit crowded.
When I am working it's in complete disaray.
Well I say I've more tools than brain cells at this point.
Because of all the 55 years with the finishing it's off gasses.
I can't smell it much but when wisitors come in and they are taken back by the woodworks aroma.
My Dad had 70 years of the same.
I hope to come close on either side of that.
He told me once "when You come home with all Your fingers, It was a good day".
Still it's fun and "I'll go in the saddle" saw horse.
At least I hope!
rick B.

[dpb]

On 5/12/2018 10:05 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 5/12/18 8:30 AM, dpb wrote:

...

>> There's no accounting for taste... :)
>>
>
> It's not for everyone.
> The client loves it.  Win.

It's why my commercial ventures (as far as w'wking at least) never
worked; I couldn't make myself do too many things I didn't like well
enough to spend my time doing that...or at least quickly enough to make
it pay. :)

The speculative house restorations in the Diamond Hill and Federal Hill
districts of Lynchburg we began back in the late '60s/early '70s as the
beginning of the revitalization were something else again entirely...did
the interior work on several of those back to original or nearly so;
hard to find 19"+ clear pine even then to replace destroyed wainscot
panels or the like...most had been cut up into low-rent apartments and
they had just sawn openings into walls to add entry doors, etc., etc.,
with no attention at all to the historic value.

When the bunch of us descended upon Lynchburg in the big hiring boom
between Babcock & Wilcox (Nuclear Power Generation Division) and General
Electric (mobile radio facilities), the several hundred/year new young
professionals totally swamped the housing available; a bunch of about a
dozen of us began by helping just one or two guys who bought one of them
dirt-cheap rehab it; roughly six of us ended up doing it as a side
business for five-six years.

<http://www.diamondhill.org/images/> Aren't many interiors at all,
unfortunately don't have any pictures other than on old slide film have
never digitized--now that's a thought.

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[-MIKE-]

On 5/12/18 2:06 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 5/12/2018 10:05 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> On 5/12/18 8:30 AM, dpb wrote:
> ...
>
>>> There's no accounting for taste... :)
>>>
>>
>> It's not for everyone.
>> The client loves it.  Win.
>
> It's why my commercial ventures (as far as w'wking at least) never
> worked; I couldn't make myself do too many things I didn't like well
> enough to spend my time doing that...or at least quickly enough to make
> it pay. :)
>

I was looking for a reason to try this burnt finish process and the
client wanted some "barn-wood" shelves for his top shelf liquors. I
told him barn-wood would be a fortune but I had an idea he might like.
He loved it and now I'm doing more.

> The speculative house restorations in the Diamond Hill and Federal Hill
> districts of Lynchburg we began back in the late '60s/early '70s as the
> beginning of the revitalization were something else again entirely...did
> the interior work on several of those back to original or nearly so;
> hard to find 19"+ clear pine even then to replace destroyed wainscot
> panels or the like...most had been cut up into low-rent apartments and
> they had just sawn openings into walls to add entry doors, etc., etc.,
> with no attention at all to the historic value.
>
> When the bunch of us descended upon Lynchburg in the big hiring boom
> between Babcock & Wilcox (Nuclear Power Generation Division) and General
> Electric (mobile radio facilities), the several hundred/year new young
> professionals totally swamped the housing available; a bunch of about a
> dozen of us began by helping just one or two guys who bought one of them
> dirt-cheap rehab it; roughly six of us ended up doing it as a side
> business for five-six years.
>
> <http://www.diamondhill.org/images/>  Aren't many interiors at all,
> unfortunately don't have any pictures other than on old slide film have
> never digitized--now that's a thought.
>

Those are some beautiful homes that actually have architectural style
and discipline.
So many builders around here are trying to replicate the look of those
old neighborhoods with the close homes, longer than wide, and 2nd & 3rd
stories.

Unfortunately, nary an architect (or at least one who got passing grades
in school) was consulted. They are just behemoth, rectangular,
monstrosities with five, six, seven, or eight architectural styles all
thrown in a blender and spewed forth onto a lot 600sq.ft.larger than
what they built on it.

It's really gross.
I love seeing the neighborhoods like in your link.

[-MIKE-]

I posted a few pics in different lighting of the cabinet after topcoat
application.

[Jack]

>> Jack
>> Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
>> http://jbstein.com
>
> I love the Pics of Your Shop Jack, a lot of similar tools and some old school stuff.

Thanks Rick. Most of my stationary tools are from the early 50's. I do
have some of my Dads hand tools though, and those are older. My brother
still lives in the old homestead and he has all my dads tools.

> I am a 4th generation woody and I have some if my Great Grandfarhers,Grandfathers and all of my Fathers tools and Equiptment.
> Plus all of my own machinist and woodworking tools I bought new or at yard sales.
> I am a just Tool junkie and shop is a bit crowded.

> When I am working it's in complete disaray.
> Well I say I've more tools than brain cells at this point.

Yeah, me too. I like tools. I can actually go into any tool store and
not see one thing I need. I still by stuff occasionally, but like to
say my tools have tools. I love my shop though, and all my tools have a
place of their own. Actually have all the drawers and cabinets I need,
and it takes almost no time to put everything away when I'm done with a
project. I'm getting a little old though, and not as interested in
building much, particularly large projects. Aurthur Itis is not your
friend...

[-MIKE-]

I like his stuff, Jack.
Also, he's actually a decent drummer. A bit sloppy, time-wise, but he's
just practicing and he's obviously not doing it to be a sessions guy.
Nice collection of kits, too. :-)

[Jack]

Here is one of him knocking down a tree close to a house. He has better
climbing ones but this one has his 70+ year old Mom singing the blues,
with him on drums, Harp and singing, and so on. The vids that show him
knocking off the limbs as he climbs are really cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUWGKk9UVOY

Here's a video of his "theme song" and a slide show of some of his
stuff. If you get past the beginning, his drumming gets better, but it's
him singing and playing the harpoon. Probably his Mom on the guitar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99qpTF7uIho

Note his channel has almost nothing to do with his music, which is just
an aside. He has some video's of climbing that are crazy. He's 100' +
in 4 inches (less) of wood knocking em down. He has hundreds of videos
just knocking down trees. The guy is amazing, and fearless and more
enjoyable than anything on the regular TV wasteland.

[DerbyDad03]

I haven't watched he whole thing yet, but something caught my eye at 2:00.

He drops a section as 2 other guys on the ground aren't even watching. The
section drops what? 10, maybe 15' behind them. I guess you build up a lot
of trust over time.

[Rick the antique guy]

On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 9:07:22 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:

Now That wood chopper Youtube video
Wella I don't know how He can even climb with such a Heavy "Ball Sack"

[Jack]

He's not into OSHA. None of his 1000+ video's have constant mandatory
safety warnings like: always wear helmet, glasses, steel gloves,
earmuffs, steel pants, don't put your hand on whirling blades, don't
drop trees on pedestrians, on ad infinitum. That's one of the things I
like about him, not controlled by American Bar Association, or whomever
is responsible for turning American men into buffoons. He usually
doesn't endanger guys working with him, usually a young dude and his son.

I'm not afraid of chain saws, or any tool really, but this guy... I've
seen him 100' in a tree and cut branches 3 inches from the rope that's
holding him to the tree, one handed... Huge cahoonas, but he knows his
stuff, that's for sure.

[Markem]

On Sun, 20 May 2018 09:42:20 -0400, Jack <jbst...@comcast.net> wrote:

>I'm not afraid of chain saws, or any tool really, but this guy... I've
>seen him 100' in a tree and cut branches 3 inches from the rope that's
>holding him to the tree, one handed... Huge cahoonas, but he knows his
>stuff, that's for sure.

That is the beauty of editing, would love to see his out takes.

[DerbyDad03]

On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 9:42:24 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
> On 5/19/2018 10:00 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 8:50:37 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
>
> >> Here is one of him knocking down a tree close to a house. He has better
> >> climbing ones but this one has his 70+ year old Mom singing the blues,
> >> with him on drums, Harp and singing, and so on. The vids that show him
> >> knocking off the limbs as he climbs are really cool.
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUWGKk9UVOY
> >
> > I haven't watched he whole thing yet, but something caught my eye at 2:00.
> >
> > He drops a section as 2 other guys on the ground aren't even watching. The
> > section drops what? 10, maybe 15' behind them. I guess you build up a lot
> > of trust over time.
>
> He's not into OSHA. None of his 1000+ video's have constant mandatory
> safety warnings like: always wear helmet, glasses, steel gloves,
> earmuffs, steel pants, don't put your hand on whirling blades, don't
> drop trees on pedestrians, on ad infinitum. That's one of the things I
> like about him, not controlled by American Bar Association, or whomever
> is responsible for turning American men into buffoons.

No OSHA reg or suit from the ABA is going to prevent one of those guys
from walking in the wrong direction. Common sense says that people on the
ground should be looking out for themselves as much as the guy dropping the
tree.

Heck, all it would take is a nest of bees in one of the cut offs to get
one of the grounders running into the path of a falling section. I would
think that *they* would be paying closer attention to what is going on
above them.

> He usually
> doesn't endanger guys working with him, usually a young dude and his son.

The definition of "endanger" comes in many shapes and sizes.

[Jack]

Why, you think he actually cut his rope, fell out of the tree, climbed
back up and edited out that part? If you watch his video's, you will
quickly see he is the real thing. To fake his work via editing is not
his thing, but he edits his stuff for sure, but not to fake anything.

Here is a good video of a job he did on Saturday the 19th. He shows
some climbing and a big leaner. He's doing it for an old guy who seems
to be wanting to help, but Billy Ray don't need no stinking help. The
old guy is standing pretty close to the big leaner when Buckin' drops
it. That should bother the heck out of DerbyDad.

[Jack]

Sure does. Apparently the guys doing this work have it figured out for
themselves. Nice to have you and the government wringing your hands
over it, but I find it refreshing to see it done on the wild side, by
guys that know their stuff. Watching Norm or Scott Phillips whine on
with all that safety crap every episode I find nauseating. Also watching
guys on Youtube put on safety glasses, dust mask, ear muffs etc just to
cut a piece of wood on a band saw is plain lame, imnsho.

[Markem]

No by editing you can not show the mistakes made, just because he does
what he does doesn't mean there are not screw ups. You obviously are
enamored beyond reality with this man.

[DerbyDad03]

Wow! Bromance much?

[Jack]

Wow, I said the guy knows his stuff (felling trees is not rocket
science) and you decide I'm "enamored beyond reality".

You obviously are negative beyond reality. On what basis do you pass
judgement that he edits out his mistakes? Have you watched any of his
work? Got any examples or are you just making stuff up for no good reason?

Yes, I'm impressed by anyone that can climb 120 feet up a tree and whack
limbs off with a chain saw, one handed. I didn't mention it before, but
watching him split wood is also impressive. What impresses you? My
guess is nothing!

[Jack]

Almost never!
You?

[DerbyDad03]

You're the one that somehow equated my comments about "trust" and
"endangering" with "me and government wringing our hands".

I have no idea where that came from, so I assume it was blind love and
your need to stand up for Mr. Cohonies whenever you perceive a negative
comment, however wrong that perception might be.

Please do enjoy his 1000's of videos. I've watched a few, found them somewhat
interesting, but don't need to see any more. That's not negative, that's just
how it is. I hope that you, he and his mom have a wonderful life.

[Markem]

Kelley Johnson impresses me.

[DerbyDad03]

Which one, or both?

Miss Colorado Kelley Johnson or Below Deck Kelley Johnson

[k...@notreal.com]

;-)

I thought he meant this one:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Johnson_(engineer)>

[Markem]

On Mon, 21 May 2018 18:10:32 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<teama...@eznet.net> wrote:

Kelly Johnson of Lockheed, P-38, P-80, F-104, U-2 and SR-71. Just a
few.

[Markem]

Correct

[DerbyDad03]

Ah, Kelly, not Kell*e*y.

It was that extra "e" that confused me. ;-)

[Jack]

Right. I equate you getting your panties in a bunch over some sort of
perceived danger to hand ringing and stupid warnings plastered over
everything.

> I have no idea where that came from,

It came from your hand wringing.

so I assume it was blind love and
> your need to stand up for Mr. Cohonies whenever you perceive a negative
> comment, however wrong that perception might be.

Now we're into some sort of weirdness for sure. From the guy is
fearless to a Bromance. You are bazaar.

> Please do enjoy his 1000's of videos. I've watched a few, found them somewhat
> interesting, but don't need to see any more. That's not negative, that's just
> how it is. I hope that you, he and his mom have a wonderful life.

Can't speak for him and his mom, but I already had a wonderful life,
fantastic actually, but thanks for the hopes and thoughts...

[Jack]

Well, I guess it was a "bromance" then, and not a romance eh?

[DerbyDad03]

You are one strange dude.

Moving on.