On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:24:46 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 6/22/2016 7:09 PM, krw wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:58:01 -0500, Swingman <
k...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/22/2016 2:22 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>> It's a tight space so I could use a circular saw but I think the multi-master might be the better option because I can see so many uses for it as I fix stuff around the house.
>>>
>>> My vintage Fein is one of the most versatile tools I own, to the point
>>> it is always in my truck ... when you need it, nothing else will do.
>>>
>>>> I have two questions about the multi-master:
>>>> 1) I prefer corded power tools except for my drill. Is the multi-master like the drill in that you use it in so many ways that a cordless just makes more sense?
>>>
>>> Personally I would buy the corded version ... it is not a tool you use
>>> every day, and, as above, when I need it I don't want to be dealing with
>>> how much juice is left in a battery in a tool that has been sitting
>>> around since the last use.
>>
>> I'm not a tradesman but I disagree. I have both corded (Dremmel) and
>> cordless (Bosch) Fein clones. I never use the Dremmel. I have a
>> bunch of 12V (or 10.8V, if you think they're lying ;-) batteries that
>> I keep charged, so they're always available. LiIons don't have a
>> significant self-discharge, so that's not an issue. IMO, if you have
>> trouble keeping cordless drill batteries charged, you probably
>> shouldn't use any cordless tools. Otherwise, they're great.
>>>
>
>Nothing was said about cordless drill batteries, those get used almost
>daily. The multimaster, 20~30 times in 10 years.
Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. The battery technology is the
same, so self-discharge isn't an issue. In my case, my 12V drill,
driver, and impact driver, use the same batteries as the twitcher.
>
>And you do have a valid point, but in 15 years the Dremel will still be
>working but probably not the batteries you have in the Bosch now.
Probably not but I'll be out of a bunch of drills, too. The Dremel
will probably still be working because it never has. ;-)
>
>Nothing against cordless, but long term, cordless tends to need to be
>replaced because of obsolete batteries while the tool itself is still in
>good shape. If you buy a decent multitool the tool is likely to never
>need to be replaced unless you can't find batteries for it.
If I replaced the Dremel, it would probably be with a Fein. Their
price has dropped a *lot* and the package isn't a bad deal anymore.
That said, if there is a real choice of a cordless tool and corded,
I'll take the cordless every time.
>And unfortunately I don't believe that any one rebuilds Li-Ion which is
>more and more the battery being sold with new tools.
I believe you're right. Liability is a huge problem with LiIons.
Aftermarket has the problem in spades.
>Personally I am more inclined to buy cordless if I use it a lot, daily
>in the shop, "if" cordless is more convenient. But so far I have only
>bought cordless drills/impacts for the last 30 or so years.
I have cordless circular saws, as well. The little Makita paid for
itself when I resided our VT house. It could even be used to cut trim
on the ladder. I later bought the Dewalt but the batteries aren't
worth crap.
>
>In 1983 I bought a Makita right angle cordless, 7.2 volt. It was great
>and much like a multimaster it got me out of jams, but not a tool that I
>would use every day. I finally got rid of it, the chuck had not a spec
>of tarnish or rust on it but I could not justify replacing the battery
>after 29 years. My Festool drill has a right angle attachment that I
>use on occasion and I am glad that I have it. ;~)
I also have a RA Makita, somewhere. Hmm, I guess it is over 20 years
old. I've replaced the battery when I've had need of the saw (not for
the drill). They aren't all that expensive. I never really liked the
drill, though. It's kinda wimpy and slow. It did have its uses.