Coronavirus- will it wipe out humanity?

[soccerfan777]

This shit is spreading faster than wild fire.

And no freaking vaccine for another 18 months

Is it nature's way of saying Fuck You? Before we destroy the planet, nature has launched a preemptive strike!

Adios mofos!

[vih...@protonmail.com]

This seems like a pretty good piece from the Scientific American blog:

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/preparing-for-coronavirus-to-strike-the-u-s/

Wondering how our long and complex supply chains are going to hold up, among other things.

[The Iceberg]

It was made in the lab in Canada and illegally smuggled by the Chinese spy scientists to Wuhan and then let out, so blame them!

[soccerfan777]

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 6:01:13 PM UTC-6, The Iceberg wrote:
> It was made in the lab in Canada and illegally smuggled by the Chinese spy scientists to Wuhan and then let out, so blame them!

Stop making fun of it, shithead.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/03/02/world/coronavirus-news.amp.html

This will soon get to almost everyone.

[Sawfish]

Here' another useful one:

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/02/study-72000-covid-19-patients-finds-23-death-rate

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[soccerfan777]

I wonder if it would stay at 2.3 percent. Even that is a major catastrophe. What is 2.3 percent of
7.53 billion people? And what is the guaranteed that it will stay at 2.3 percent?

[vih...@protonmail.com]

Looks like a solid source- thanks.

[Sawfish]

Could go higher or lower.

But look at the bright side: if it goes to 50%, like ebola, it'll
probably help the greenhouse gas problem in the long run.

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[Sawfish]

de nada, amigo...  :^)

[soccerfan777]

Ebola took 50% of humanity out? Why didnt anyone inform me?

[*skriptis]

soccerfan777 <zepf...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> This shit is spreading faster than wild fire.And no freaking vaccine for another 18 monthsIs it nature's way of saying Fuck You? Before we destroy the planet, nature has launched a preemptive strike!Adios mofos!



Chinese eat all sorts of animals, lizards, bats, bugs, bunnies, dogs, etc


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[soccerfan777]

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 6:53:43 PM UTC-6, *skriptis wrote:
> soccerfan777 <zepf...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> > This shit is spreading faster than wild fire.And no freaking vaccine for another 18 monthsIs it nature's way of saying Fuck You? Before we destroy the planet, nature has launched a preemptive strike!Adios mofos!
>
>
>
> Chinese eat all sorts of animals, lizards, bats, bugs, bunnies, dogs, etc
>

Racist strikes again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jn03wW0Slw

[Sawfish]

You were talking about a 2.3% mortality rate and I just compared the
mortality rate to ebola's, that's all.

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[Calimero]

Ah, the socialist fear monger is at it again!
Dummy, the mortality rate is far less than 1 %. It is some sort of severe flu we have had several times in the last 100 years. Wash your hands, don't kiss your boy-friend for a while, and watch Trump winning in November!


Max



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[Calimero]

It is far less than 2.3 %, you dimwit.

[*skriptis]

soccerfan777 <zepf...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

> This shit is spreading faster than wild fire.And no freaking vaccine for another 18 months...



lol 18 months?

Do you live in a cave?


Jews will have vaccine ready soon and they will save us.

Here's copy paste.


https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-scientists-In-three-weeks-we-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-619101

(Israeli scientists are on the cusp of developing the first vaccine against the novel coronavirus, according to Science and Technology Minister Ofir Akunis. If all goes as planned, the vaccine could be ready within a few weeks and available in 90 days, according to a release.

“Our basic concept was to develop the technology and not specifically a vaccine for this kind or that kind of virus,” said Dr. Chen Katz, MIGAL’s biotechnology group leader. 

“Let’s call it pure luck,” he said. “We decided to choose coronavirus as a model for our system just as a proof of concept for our technology.”)





https://dailystormer.su/israelis-claim-theyll-have-a-coronavirus-vaccine-developed-in-the-next-few-weeks/


The Jew credits “luck” for them being able to develop this vaccine so quickly. It is certainly odd to see how Jews are always so lucky. But is it really luck? Or is something else going on?

One theory is that the coronavirus is actually a biological weapon produced by the United States and Israel that was originally deployed against China as part of a plot to destabilize their government. While this theory is unconfirmed, it is a plausible theory that even the Arab media has reported on. The Israeli media was not happy about this reporting and has attempted to discredit the theory.


https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Arab-media-accuse-US-Israel-of-coronavirus-conspiracy-against-China-617021

(Numerous reports in the Arab press have accused the US and Israel of being behind the creation and spread of the deadly coronavirus as part of an economic and psychological war against China, the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) reported.")


One fact bolstering this theory is that the coronavirus conveniently became a major problem after the CIA-backed anti-China riots in Hong Kong began to fizzle out.

Certainly, if the coronavirus was part of Israel’s biological weapon stockpile, it would explain why they’d be able to develop a vaccine so quickly. That’s because they would already have at minimum, some type of working understanding of it, or maybe even a pre-existing working vaccine or cure.

The Jewish Journal went so far as to write a piece taunting anti-Semites over the Israeli vaccine claim.


@JewishJournal
Good luck boycotting this, anti-Semites.

https://jewishjournal.com/news/israel/311251/israeli-science-minister-says-coronavirus-vaccine-could-be-ready-in-weeks/


Of course, this claim about vaccine development could also be a Jewish hoax designed to make shekels by exploiting everyone’s fears of infection. Either way, you are most likely going to be better off taking your chances with the coronavirus than injecting yourself with some cocktail put together by Israeli scientists.

[vih...@protonmail.com]

'Key Missteps at the CDC Have Set Back Its Ability to Detect the Potential Spread of Coronavirus':

"The CDC designed a flawed test for COVID-19, then took weeks to figure out a fix so state and local labs could use it. New York still doesn’t trust the test’s accuracy.."

https://www.propublica.org/article/cdc-coronavirus-covid-19-test

[*skriptis]

soccerfan777 <zepf...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 6:53:43 PM UTC-6, *skriptis wrote:> soccerfan777 <zepf...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r> > This shit is spreading faster than wild fire.And no freaking vaccine for another 18 monthsIs it nature's way of saying Fuck You? Before we destroy the planet, nature has launched a preemptive strike!Adios mofos!> > > > Chinese eat all sorts of animals, lizards, bats, bugs, bunnies, dogs, etc > Racist strikes again.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jn03wW0Slw

I won't even open your links when they're accompanied with such stupid comment.

You're concerned with "racism"?

First of all moron, it's cultural, not racial.

If they eat all sorts of animals which many in Europe would not touch them, let alone eat them, it means there's a risk and virus passed from there.

That's perfectly logical explanation.

Why would else animal virus pass to humans?

And now that it has passed and this spread around world also means it will mutate and stay permanently among humans.

Flu seasons have just become 1000% deadlier.

We'll survive but there will be many tragedies.


If the Chinese eating habits haven't caused this, then the only other explanation is that it's a lab virus directed at Chinese.

[Gerrit 't Hart]

The Spanish Flu of 1918 killed between 40 and 50 MILLION people. The
world's population was much smaller then and yet that flu did not wipe
out humanity.
Much earlier the Black Death is estimated to have killed 30% to 60% of
Europe's population. In total, the plague may have reduced the world
population from an estimated 475 million to 350–375 million in the 14th
century.
I am not minimising the present virus but putting it in perspective I
don't think that this flu will wipe out humanity.

[*skriptis]

Gerrit 't Hart <s...@for.you> Wrote in message:

Yeah but look at this, Spanish flu had same/similar death rate as
coronavirus so far.

"On average, seasonal flu strains kill about 0.1 percent of people
who become infected. The 1918 flu had an unusually high fatality
rate, around 2 percent. Because it was so contagious, that flu
killed tens of millions of people."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/health/coronavirus-flu.html




Hopefully it will go down as Max says, it's unlikely that
coronavirus will stay at 2.3%, many scientists also claim it
could go as low as 0.4% death rate.

But, that's still 4 times deadlier than normal flu (0.1%), and on
top of that seems to be very contagious.

Now that it has spread around the world, the virus is here to
stay, China hasn't closed their cities fast enough after
introducing virus to humans in the first place in their wet
markets.

This is the worst thing they've done to civilization in their history.

Hundreds of thousands, maybe millions will die because of them.


Thanks China.


You're a communist country but one of the few good things that
communism offers, such as no need to be concerned with public
opinion and election, thus having a chance to do unpopular
things, you didn't do, you failed to brutally subjugate
population in order to contain the virus.


Kids losing their grandparents and people losing family members,
families mourning, this blood will be on your hands.




The only thing that could save your face is if it's revealed that
this was a CIA/Mossad lab virus.



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[Sawfish]

On 3/3/20 12:50 PM, *skriptis wrote:
> Gerrit 't Hart <s...@for.you> Wrote in message:
>>
>> On 3/03/2020 7:53 am, soccerfan777 wrote:
>>> This shit is spreading faster than wild fire.
>>>
>>> And no freaking vaccine for another 18 months
>>>
>>> Is it nature's way of saying Fuck You? Before we destroy the planet, nature has launched a preemptive strike!
>>>
>>> Adios mofos!
>>>
>> The Spanish Flu of 1918 killed between 40 and 50 MILLION people. The
>> world's population was much smaller then and yet that flu did not wipe
>> out humanity.
>> Much earlier the Black Death is estimated to have killed 30% to 60% of
>> Europe's population. In total, the plague may have reduced the world
>> population from an estimated 475 million to 350–375 million in the 14th
>> century.
>> I am not minimising the present virus but putting it in perspective I
>> don't think that this flu will wipe out humanity.
>
>
>
> Yeah but look at this, Spanish flu had same/similar death rate as
> coronavirus so far.
>
> "On average, seasonal flu strains kill about 0.1 percent of people
> who become infected. The 1918 flu had an unusually high fatality
> rate, around 2 percent. Because it was so contagious, that flu
> killed tens of millions of people."

My conclusion, too. Very similar in morbidity to Spanish flu. Fatality
profile is quite different, however--there was a "W" fatality profile
(instead of a U profile) for the Spanish flu, with the middle peak for
young and otherwise healthy adults. Corona virus is mainly fatal to the
ill and/or old.

We'll see what happens.

We have no other choice!  :^)

>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/health/coronavirus-flu.html
>
>
>
>
> Hopefully it will go down as Max says, it's unlikely that
> coronavirus will stay at 2.3%, many scientists also claim it
> could go as low as 0.4% death rate.
>
> But, that's still 4 times deadlier than normal flu (0.1%), and on
> top of that seems to be very contagious.
>
> Now that it has spread around the world, the virus is here to
> stay, China hasn't closed their cities fast enough after
> introducing virus to humans in the first place in their wet
> markets.
>
> This is the worst thing they've done to civilization in their history.
>
> Hundreds of thousands, maybe millions will die because of them.
>
>
> Thanks China.
>
>
> You're a communist country but one of the few good things that
> communism offers, such as no need to be concerned with public
> opinion and election, thus having a chance to do unpopular
> things, you didn't do, you failed to brutally subjugate
> population in order to contain the virus.
>
>
> Kids losing their grandparents and people losing family members,
> families mourning, this blood will be on your hands.
>
>
>
>
> The only thing that could save your face is if it's revealed that
> this was a CIA/Mossad lab virus.
>
>
>

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[Gracchus]

On Tuesday, March 3, 2020 at 12:50:19 PM UTC-8, *skriptis wrote:

> Thanks China.

> You're a communist country but one of the few good things that
> communism offers, such as no need to be concerned with public
> opinion and election, thus having a chance to do unpopular
> things, you didn't do, you failed to brutally subjugate
> population in order to contain the virus.

I spent a couple of years there. The People's Republic of China is communist mainly in name and leadership structure these days. The streets of Shanghai no longer teem with coolies in identical Mao outfits. Far from it. They love their Starbucks, their iPhones, their designer clothes. And though there are still many millions of peasant farmers in the provinces, there are also plenty of rich Chinese, including billionaires who send their kids to top universities across the world and give them insanely expensive sports cars.

Twenty-first century China is nominally communist, largely capitalist, and very much still authoritarian. Opposing or criticizing the government there remains a really bad idea.

[soccerfan777]

Yes I have heard the same about China from the few Chinese folks I know. Communism is a thing of the past there. And you are right about authoritarianism.

[Calimero]

True socialism can only be found in North Korea, Venezuela and in the Sanders camp. Nutters, all of them, dangerous nutters.


Max



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[soccerfan777]

On Tuesday, March 3, 2020 at 3:54:48 PM UTC-6, Calimero wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 3. März 2020 22:35:45 UTC+1 schrieb Gracchus:
> > On Tuesday, March 3, 2020 at 12:50:19 PM UTC-8, *skriptis wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks China.
> >
> > > You're a communist country but one of the few good things that
> > > communism offers, such as no need to be concerned with public
> > > opinion and election, thus having a chance to do unpopular
> > > things, you didn't do, you failed to brutally subjugate
> > > population in order to contain the virus.
> >
> > I spent a couple of years there. The People's Republic of China is communist mainly in name and leadership structure these days. The streets of Shanghai no longer teem with coolies in identical Mao outfits. Far from it. They love their Starbucks, their iPhones, their designer clothes. And though there are still many millions of peasant farmers in the provinces, there are also plenty of rich Chinese, including billionaires who send their kids to top universities across the world and give them insanely expensive sports cars.
> >
> > Twenty-first century China is nominally communist, largely capitalist, and very much still authoritarian. Opposing or criticizing the government there remains a really bad idea.
>
>
> True socialism can only be found in North Korea, Venezuela and in the Sanders camp. Nutters, all of them, dangerous nutters.
>

And also in East Germany where you hail from.

[The Iceberg]

it was illegally imported from Canada by those 2 Chinese scientists last year to the top virus lab in China, which is in Wuhan. There were warnings something might get out cos of bad security there and some scientist clearly went to the wet market for fish & chips or something with it on his hands! that was it!

[*skriptis]

Gracchus <grac...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> On Tuesday, March 3, 2020 at 12:50:19 PM UTC-8, *skriptis wrote:> Thanks China. > You're a communist country but one of the few good things that> communism offers, such as no need to be concerned with public> opinion and election, thus having a chance to do unpopular> things, you didn't do, you failed to brutally subjugate> population in order to contain the virus. I spent a couple of years there. The People's Republic of China is communist mainly in name and leadership structure these days. The streets of Shanghai no longer teem with coolies in identical Mao outfits. Far from it. They love their Starbucks, their iPhones, their designer clothes. And though there are still many millions of peasant farmers in the provinces, there are also plenty of rich Chinese, including billionaires who send their kids to top universities across the world and give them insanely expensive sports cars.Twenty-first century China is nominally communist, largely capitalist, and very much still authoritarian. Opposing or criticizing the government there remains a really bad idea.




OK. I value your insights. First hand experience is always useful.

However, was my post so much at odds with your experience? I think not.

I criticized China for their lack of authoritarianism. And when I speak of authoritarism I don't speak about ruling class banning any criticism of themselves. You have that in the US too. E.g. everyone who insults Jews in the US is banned from social media. Whether it's dailystormer who mocks them, alt-right, Alex Jones, Trunews, Proud boys, Nick Fuentes, etc, they were all shut down.

True opposition is everywhere crushed.



But in this case I was talking about nationalism and authoritarianism. Patriotism.


It's something China nominally should have, but as you say, it seems the billionaires and globalists have largely taken over there. Not entirely of course. But largely. They seem very much concerned whether globalist press would praise them so they're not behaving like you'd expect from a communist/authoritarian country.

Why haven't they sent tanks to Hong-Kong like they did in 1989 in Tienanmen, it's literally incomprehensible to me that e.g. China hasn't brutally crushed CIA backed revolution in Hong Kong.

Or that they failed to put people in concentration camps during coronavirus outbreak?




Meanwhile Russia first banned Chinese from entering Russia and later was conducting mass raids and arresting everyone who was Chinese or looked like Chinese.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/02/18/russia-temporarily-bans-chinese-nationals-from-entering-country-amid-coronavirus-outbreak

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8034317/Moscow-targets-Chinese-raids-amid-virus-fears.html


China complained.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/02/26/china-to-russia-end-discriminatory-coronavirus-measures-against-chinese-a69416


Then some stupid Chinese prankster pretended he was sick and Russia sent a message, probably because of that complaining. He was arrested and now will serve 5 years.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/11/europe/russia-coronavirus-prank-arrest-intl/index.html



Now I ask you, who is more authoritarian?

[The Iceberg]

looks like they smuggled in the Coronavirus from Canada to bio-weapon it so they'd have the only cure, but it got out too soon.

[The Iceberg]

you love how the people still aren't even allowed to vote though, don't you.

[*skriptis]

The Iceberg <iceber...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 20:50:19 UTC, *skriptis wrote:> Gerrit 't Hart <s...@for.you> Wrote in message:> > > > > > On 3/03/2020 7:53 am, soccerfan777 wrote:> >> This shit is spreading faster than wild fire.> >> > >> And no freaking vaccine for another 18 months> >> > >> Is it nature's way of saying Fuck You? Before we destroy the planet, nature has launched a preemptive strike!> >> > >> Adios mofos!> >> > > > > The Spanish Flu of 1918 killed between 40 and 50 MILLION people. The > > world's population was much smaller then and yet that flu did not wipe > > out humanity.> > Much earlier the Black Death is estimated to have killed 30% to 60% of > > Europe's population. In total, the plague may have reduced the world > > population from an estimated 475 million to 350–375 million in the 14th > > century.> > I am not minimising the present virus but putting it in perspective I > > don't think that this flu will wipe out humanity.> > > > > Yeah but look at this, Spanish flu had same/similar death rate as> coronavirus so far. > > "On average, seasonal flu strains kill about 0.1 percent of people> who become infected. The 1918 flu had an unusually high fatality> rate, around 2 percent. Because it was so contagious, that flu> killed tens of millions of people."> > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/health/coronavirus-flu.html> > > > > Hopefully it will go down as Max says, it's unlikely that> coronavirus will stay at 2.3%, many scientists also claim it> could go as low as 0.4% death rate.> > But, that's still 4 times deadlier than normal flu (0.1%), and on> top of that seems to be very contagious.> > Now that it has spread around the world, the virus is here to> stay, China hasn't closed their cities fast enough after> introducing virus to humans in the first place in their wet> markets. > > This is the worst thing they've done to civilization in their history. > > Hundreds of thousands, maybe millions will die because of them. > > > Thanks China. > > > You're a communist country but one of the few good things that> communism offers, such as no need to be concerned with public> opinion and election, thus having a chance to do unpopular> things, you didn't do, you failed to brutally subjugate> population in order to contain the virus. > > > Kids losing their grandparents and people losing family members,> families mourning, this blood will be on your hands.> > > > > The only thing that could save your face is if it's revealed that> this was a CIA/Mossad lab virus. > > > > -- > > > ----Android NewsGroup Reader----> http://usenet.sinaapp.com/it was illegally imported from Canada by those 2 Chinese scientists last year to the top virus lab in China, which is in Wuhan. There were warnings something might get out cos of bad security there and some scientist clearly went to the wet market for fish & chips or something with it on his hands! that was it!



Very reckless of them.
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[Calimero]

You are thirty 30 year late, boy.

[Sawfish]

China's approach to communism is that it seems to be a state religion
whose original doctrine has evolved to be less orthodox, but the present
regime retains its connection to the communism of Mao because the
prophets and martyrs--the "saints"--of that state religion are venerated
as a unifying pantheon.

So it seems to me that in actuality what they have now is a liberal
oligarchy based on a) prosperity in the present, and b) whose current
leadership is legitimized by its supposed connection to the heroes of
the past.

But these same "heroes of the past" would shit their Mao suits if they
saw what's going on now.

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as a member." --G. Marx

[vih...@protonmail.com]

On Tuesday, March 3, 2020 at 9:35:45 PM UTC, Gracchus wrote:

> I spent a couple of years there. The People's Republic of China is communist mainly in name and leadership structure these days. The streets of Shanghai no longer teem with coolies in identical Mao outfits. Far from it. They love their Starbucks, their iPhones, their designer clothes. And though there are still many millions of peasant farmers in the provinces, there are also plenty of rich Chinese, including billionaires who send their kids to top universities across the world and give them insanely expensive sports cars.
>
> Twenty-first century China is nominally communist, largely capitalist, and very much still authoritarian. Opposing or criticizing the government there remains a really bad idea.

Thanks for this comment.

[*skriptis]

Sawfish <sawfi...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> On 3/3/20 1:35 PM, Gracchus wrote:> On Tuesday, March 3, 2020 at 12:50:19 PM UTC-8, *skriptis wrote:>>> Thanks China.>> You're a communist country but one of the few good things that>> communism offers, such as no need to be concerned with public>> opinion and election, thus having a chance to do unpopular>> things, you didn't do, you failed to brutally subjugate>> population in order to contain the virus.> I spent a couple of years there. The People's Republic of China is communist mainly in name and leadership structure these days. The streets of Shanghai no longer teem with coolies in identical Mao outfits. Far from it. They love their Starbucks, their iPhones, their designer clothes. And though there are still many millions of peasant farmers in the provinces, there are also plenty of rich Chinese, including billionaires who send their kids to top universities across the world and give them insanely expensive sports cars.>> Twenty-first century China is nominally communist, largely capitalist, and very much still authoritarian. Opposing or criticizing the government there remains a really bad idea.>China's approach to communism is that it seems to be a state religion whose original doctrine has evolved to be less orthodox, but the present regime retains its connection to the communism of Mao because the prophets and martyrs--the "saints"--of that state religion are venerated as a unifying pantheon.So it seems to me that in actuality what they have now is a liberal oligarchy based on a) prosperity in the present, and b) whose current leadership is legitimized by its supposed connection to the heroes of the past.But these same "heroes of the past" would shit their Mao suits if they saw what's going on now.



Good, these couple of posts, Gracchus, you, should enter rst FAQ on China.

;)

[Gracchus]

LOL, thanks skriptis. China is an interesting subject with endless tangents and cul-de-sacs.

[The Iceberg]

they've just got a scum government that want to hold onto power and not let anyone else have it unless it's their pals.

[The Iceberg]

yes it good to read your first hand experience, was there too long time ago and found the army enforced regular stuff policemen would do over here, they kept everyone in line that way.

[undecided]

> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Here' another useful one:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/02/study-72000-covid-19-patients-finds-23-death-rate
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> --Sawfish
> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>> "The Ayatolla of Rock and Rolla!"
> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>> I wonder if it would stay at 2.3 percent. Even that is a major catastrophe. What is 2.3 percent of
> >>> 7.53 billion people? And what is the guaranteed that it will stay at 2.3 percent?
> >>
> >> Could go higher or lower.
> >>
> >> But look at the bright side: if it goes to 50%, like ebola, it'll
> >> probably help the greenhouse gas problem in the long run.
> >>
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> >> "Man! I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!"
> >> --Sawfish
> > Ebola took 50% of humanity out? Why didnt anyone inform me?
>
>
> You were talking about a 2.3% mortality rate and I just compared the
> mortality rate to ebola's, that's all.
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> were large!" --Sawfish

The 7-day moving average has stabilized at around 3.4% so, I'd say that's what the real number is.

[Sawfish]

He's been there, so I cede to him. :^)

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[undecided]

> > > --
> > > --Sawfish
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > "The Ayatolla of Rock and Rolla!"
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > I wonder if it would stay at 2.3 percent. Even that is a major catastrophe. What is 2.3 percent of
> > 7.53 billion people? And what is the guaranteed that it will stay at 2.3 percent?
>
>
> It is far less than 2.3 %, you dimwit.
>
>
> Max
>
>
>
> --
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> (IG Michael Horowitz on the FBI’s FISA applications against Trump adviser Carter Page, December 11th, 2019)

The 7-day moving average has stabilized at around 3.4% so that is most likely the real death rate number for people who show symptoms. The asymptomatic ones, who cares, it's as if they never got it although they are probably the worst carriers.

[Brian Lawrence]

On 02/03/2020 23:53, soccerfan777 wrote:

> This shit is spreading faster than wild fire.
>
> And no freaking vaccine for another 18 months
>
> Is it nature's way of saying Fuck You? Before we destroy the planet, nature has launched a preemptive strike!
>
> Adios mofos!

The Chinese version of the CDC issued a report on cases up to Feb 11.
Some 'facts':

44,672 confirmed cases, 1,023 fatalities

Ages of fatalities/#

0-10 0 416 cases
10-19 1 549 0.2% rate
20s 7 3,619 0.2%
30s 18 7,600 0.2%
40s 38 8,571 0.4%

so, only 64 fatalities under the age of 50

50s 130 10,008 1.3%
60s 309 8,583 3.6%
70s 312 3,918 8.0%
80+ 208 1,408 14.8%

653 male deaths (2.8% rate), 370 female (1.7%)

Underlying health problems

Hypertension 161 deaths 6.0%
Diabetes 80 7.3%
Cardiovasc. 92 10.5%
Chronic Resp. D. 32 6.3%
Cancer 6 5.6%
None 133 0.9%
Missing data 617 2.6%


According to the WHO as at March 3, only 10 countries have reported deaths:

China 2,946 deaths, 80,304 cases 3.67%
Iran 66 1,501 4.40%
Italy 52 2,036 2.55%
S Korea 28 4,812 0.58%

Japan 6
France 3
USA 2
Philippines 1
Australia 1
Thailand 1

The Diamond Princess cruise liner had 706 cases with 6 deaths - not
comparable with a country.

Excluding China there had been 160 fatalities (March 3) - also excl.
cruise liner. 10,566 cases - 1.57%.

Excluding China, Iran, Italy, Korea & the DP, there have been 14 deaths
from 602 cases (2.32%).


Basically most healthy people under the age of 50 stand a good chance of
surviving CoVid-19, women have a better chance than men.

The Chinese CDC article is here:


<http://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article/id/e53946e2-c6c4-41e9-9a9b-fea8db1a8f51>

The WHO has daily sitreps which can be found here:


<https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports/>

[Sawfish]

EXCELLENT!!!

Thanks for these links!

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--Sawfish
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"If there's one thing I can't stand, it's intolerance."
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[Calimero]

In Germany we have 262 people now who are infected, zero deaths.
In 2017/18 more than 25.000 people died from a severe flu wave here.
To put things into perspective.


Max

[undecided]

Maybe Germans are tougher against this virus, who knows? too early to tell what the numbers will be for germany but globally it's at 3.4% What that tells you is some places are higher than 3.4 and others lower.

[soccerfan777]

Some of the East Germans are viruses themselves!

[Sawfish]

Part of it is a quality of care issue, another part is age/underlying
conditions.