Boris Becker DavisCup Stats against Top10 Player
Quincy
In words: 15 matches, 15 wins, including McEnroe, Agassi and several
times Edberg, Wilander.
Shakes
I agree. Becker is, IMO, the greatest Davis Cup singles performer in
the Open Era.
number_six
He did not merely beat Edberg and Wilander in DC matches, he crushed
them.
number_six
Dang that Sergio Casal, though!!
Quincy
Yep. He lost 3 times in DC matches. Once against Paul Haarhuis and
twice against Sergio Casal.
It's a mirror of his complete Tennis live. He beat and crushed the Top
Players, but lost against nobodies.
stephenJ
Becker was an incredible DC player, at a time when DC actually mattered.
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Superdave
> > Quincy wrote:
>> 15-0
>>
>> In words: 15 matches, 15 wins, including McEnroe, Agassi and several
>> times Edberg, Wilander.
>
>Becker was an incredible DC player, at a time when DC actually mattered.
He was the best DC player imho. Deserves a lot of credit for that.
But, it means diddleysquat as far as the goat shit is concerned.
No more than an honorable mention.
Quincy
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:52:18 -0500, stephenJ <sjar...@pop.com> wrote:
> > > Quincy wrote:
> >> 15-0
>
> >> In words: 15 matches, 15 wins, including McEnroe, Agassi and several
> >> times Edberg, Wilander.
>
> >Becker was an incredible DC player, at a time when DC actually mattered.
>
> He was the best DC player imho. Deserves a lot of credit for that.
>
> But, it means diddleysquat as far as the goat shit is concerned.
>
> No more than an honorable mention.
The question is how to define "GOAT". I acknowledge Federer's slam
achievement, it's amazing, much better thatn e.g. Sampras'
But why doesn't he do hardly any other stuff? That's a little sad.
Raja, The Great
I always admired Becker. When he was on fire, he was unbeatable. I
think his best years were 1986, 1988 and 1989. He could have finished
all those years as #1 if he was a tad more consistent. If Michael
Stich was born 5 years earlier, I think Germany would have won all the
Davis Cups from 1986-89.
Raja, The Great
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:52:18 -0500, stephenJ <sjar...@pop.com> wrote:
> > > Quincy wrote:
> >> 15-0
>
> >> In words: 15 matches, 15 wins, including McEnroe, Agassi and several
> >> times Edberg, Wilander.
>
> >Becker was an incredible DC player, at a time when DC actually mattered.
>
> He was the best DC player imho. Deserves a lot of credit for that.
>
> But, it means diddleysquat as far as the goat shit is concerned.
Why not? Playing for your country has to matter a lot. I wish Hingis/
Federer won Fed Cup/Davis Cup for Switzerland.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopman_Cup
They did win Hopman cup for the Swiss, so not so bad.
stephenJ
yep, times have changed. E.g., when Mac was playing DC it was a huge
deal and anyone at the time would have predicted that his great DC play
would enhance his legacy, but the standards have evolved and DC now
means almost nothing, just a tie-breaker of sorts.
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Raja, The Great
>
> >>> Quincy wrote:
> >>> 15-0
>
> >>> In words: 15 matches, 15 wins, including McEnroe, Agassi and several
> >>> times Edberg, Wilander.
> >> Becker was an incredible DC player, at a time when DC actually mattered.
>
> > He was the best DC player imho. Deserves a lot of credit for that.
>
> > But, it means diddleysquat as far as the goat shit is concerned.
>
> > No more than an honorable mention.
>
> yep, times have changed. E.g., when Mac was playing DC it was a huge
> deal and anyone at the time would have predicted that his great DC play
> would enhance his legacy, but the standards have evolved and DC now
> means almost nothing, just a tie-breaker of sorts.
>
including Nadal.
stephenJ
Becker obliterated Edberg in the 85, 88, and 89 DC finals. Crushed
Wilander in the 85 and 89 finals as well.
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Raja, The Great
I wonder how he would have fared if Lendl were allowed to play for the
US? Imagine Lendl, Connors and McEnroe playing Davis Cup for US. That
would have been hilarious.
Quincy
It's ironic, that Becker and Stich only played once in Davis Cup
together. In 1995 it was the first and only time in history of Tennis
where Germany was the big favorite to win the Davis Cup.
Even in the Semifinal, playing in Russia, on super slow clay against
on-fire Chesnokov and Kafelnikov with home field advantage,
Becker&Stich were the favorites.
But then the incredible happened: Becker couldn't play his second
rubber, his replacement, Karbacher, had not the whiff of a chance
against Kafelnikov, but Stich .... made history:
Stich really choked away 9 (in words: NINE) matchballs against
Chesnokov in the decidive rubber: Result: Russia won 3-2 and went to
the final and the dream final Becker/Stich vs Sampras/Courier did not
take place.
number_six
> It's ironic, that Becker and Stich only played once in Davis Cup
> together. In 1995 it was the first and only time in history of Tennis
> where Germany was the big favorite to win the Davis Cup.
They teamed up on other occasions. See '91, where they beat Italy and
Argentina, then Stich (but not Becker) was on the squad vs USA. In
Sept 92, they teamed up against Belgium in a playoff tie.
Superdave
say no more
Raja, The Great
>
> - Show quoted text -
Are you suggesting Fed's greatest rival is a nobody. You are making
the same mistake Whisper is making with Agassi.