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Skeeter

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Jul 9, 2020, 5:00:39 PM7/9/20
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to be proud of their race and loot and riot to prove it. But it's
wrong for me to be proud of my race even though I don't burn and loot.

See what's wrong with this country? To many hypocrites.

vallor

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Jul 9, 2020, 5:22:11 PM7/9/20
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So you're judging the overwhelming majority of peaceful protesters by the
actions of a few "bad apples"?

Why do you not judge police in the same way?

Oh, and by the way -- police aren't even in the same league as protestors.
Imagine if we would say "Oh, yes, United Airlines has a few bad pilots,
but their mostly okay. Don't judge them by the very few that crash into
mountain peaks."

And you're the creeps that made skin color an issue in the first place.
You monster.

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Janithor

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Jul 9, 2020, 5:45:31 PM7/9/20
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x-no-archive: yes
You need to follow the example of the esteemed leaders of Choptopia and
find a black person and give them $10. Then you will have atoned for
the sin of possessing white skin.

Skeeter

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Jul 9, 2020, 5:55:48 PM7/9/20
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On 9 Jul 2020 21:22:08 GMT, vallor <val...@cultnix.org> wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Jul 2020 15:00:36 -0600, Skeeter wrote:
>
>> to be proud of their race and loot and riot to prove it. But it's wrong
>> for me to be proud of my race even though I don't burn and loot.
>>
>> See what's wrong with this country? To many hypocrites.
>
>So you're judging the overwhelming majority of peaceful protesters by the
>actions of a few "bad apples"?

Did I say that? No I didn't. There you go again. Why is it wrong for
me to wear a WLM shirt?
>
>Why do you not judge police in the same way?

That's your call. I never said that, you did. I want to know why if I
wear a WLM shirt I am racist but it's ok to wear a BLM shirt. Simple
question really but the hypocrites won't answer.
>
>Oh, and by the way -- police aren't even in the same league as protestors.
>Imagine if we would say "Oh, yes, United Airlines has a few bad pilots,
>but their mostly okay. Don't judge them by the very few that crash into
>mountain peaks."

That made no sense.
>
>And you're the creeps that made skin color an issue in the first place.
>You monster.

Not me, I was fine with everyone and everything until BLM and antifag
came around.


<this is where he spins it into "silence is violence" bullshit.

Skeeter

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Jul 9, 2020, 5:56:14 PM7/9/20
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:45:27 -0700, Janithor <Jani...@comcast.net>
wrote:
I will give them free WLM shirts.

vallor

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Jul 9, 2020, 7:48:12 PM7/9/20
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On Thu, 09 Jul 2020 15:55:44 -0600, Skeeter wrote:

> That's your call. I never said that, you did. I want to know why if I
> wear a WLM shirt I am racist but it's ok to wear a BLM shirt. Simple
> question really but the hypocrites won't answer.

It's not hypocrisy at all. And I'm sure you know the answer, you're just
being intentionally obtuse about it.

For the benefit of onlookers: if you're white, then you grew up with
privilege. You may say "no I didn't", but if you weren't afraid for your
life for driving down the street after sundown in a nice neighborhood,
then you have been privileged. And a whole other list of things that you
_didn't_ have to worry about.

That doesn't mean you're at fault for anything, just that you had
advantages throughout the years in the United States. "Black Lives
Matter" is about recognizing that our fellow Americans have been
disadvantaged for a whole host of things -- and if you're honest with
yourself, this isn't a controversial idea.

So yes, all lives matter -- but when a house is on fire in a neighborhood,
you put out _that_ fire. If someone comes over and starts yelling, "my
house matters too!", they get ignored, or put in a rubber room, or
whatever.

Now, I'll agree with one thing: if a guy says "I can't breathe" while
being choked, and then dies -- well, that's a problem, no matter what
color his skin. I wrote a blog post about use of force that doesn't
mention race. "The minimum force necessary to compel compliance" is the
standard. It's just that that kind of brutality has been
disproportionately aimed at people of color. BLM has taken it upon
themselves to demonstrate against police brutality -- and believe it or
not, they are demonstrating for _your_ rights, too. I know you won't
believe it, but they are.

What makes matters worse is the disproportionate response to the
demonstrations we've seen. There are people rioting and looting, and that
makes for good news...see my previous post about how news organizations
all want you to say to yourself "my God, what is this world coming to?" --
but I digress.

Anyway, there are some bad actors trying to stir up shit. There might be
some Antifa (the anti-fascists), but population overwhelmingly responsible
for all the fires and property damage are fascists -- real fascists, not
your bullshit name-calling of Antifa.)

This includes groups like the Proud Boys, who are being deplatformed all
the way to Hell currently. It also includes the Boogaloo bois -- and if
you think all Boogs wear identifying clothing, then I think you're just
adorable.

So one very big problem in all this is the very people being demonstrated
against are the people who have the guns and the flash bangs and the tear
gas and the mobile personnel carriers. (I'm surprised they aren't using
sonic or irradiative weapons, but maybe that's not legal against U.S.
citizens in "the homeland".) They had been constantly crossing the line
in suppressing a constitutionally-protected right of demonstration.

So you have stupid crap like people getting shot with pepper bullets for
being on their own porch, which was a perfectly valid place to be during
Minneapolis' bullshit curfew. "Light 'em up!" Said the _bad apples_.
(Hmm. Sure are a lot of those -- but I digress again.) You also have
people popping smoke grenades and other ordinance at people's heads.
(That bullshit also happened during the Occupy demonstrations, it's not a
new thing.)

Oh, and how about undercover cops inciting riots? You got a problem with
that? That kind of thing goes back to the Pinkerton detectives, when
unions were striking and demonstrating for things like a 40-day work week
and collective bargaining.

Sometimes, it's the cops initiating the violence in these demonstrations.
I'm not saying they're doing all of it -- but they aren't doing _none_ of
it either. Between their goose-stepping around and the Proud Boys and
Boogaloo Bois gunning down cops (see article from Atlantic I posted
earlier), there's not much room for peace.

(I could ramble on more about this, but I got to try to medicate my cat.
We just found out she has cancer, so she'll be on medication for the rest
of her short life, probably about 2 years before she will need to head to
the rainbow bridge.)

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Skeeter

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Jul 9, 2020, 8:09:19 PM7/9/20
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On 9 Jul 2020 23:48:09 GMT, vallor <val...@cultnix.org> wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Jul 2020 15:55:44 -0600, Skeeter wrote:
>
>> That's your call. I never said that, you did. I want to know why if I
>> wear a WLM shirt I am racist but it's ok to wear a BLM shirt. Simple
>> question really but the hypocrites won't answer.
>
>It's not hypocrisy at all. And I'm sure you know the answer, you're just
>being intentionally obtuse about it.

So tell me your answer.
>
>For the benefit of onlookers: if you're white, then you grew up with
>privilege. You may say "no I didn't", but if you weren't afraid for your
>life for driving down the street after sundown in a nice neighborhood,
>then you have been privileged. And a whole other list of things that you
>_didn't_ have to worry about.

So why can't I wear the shirt without catching shit?
>
>That doesn't mean you're at fault for anything, just that you had
>advantages throughout the years in the United States. "Black Lives
>Matter" is about recognizing that our fellow Americans have been
>disadvantaged for a whole host of things -- and if you're honest with
>yourself, this isn't a controversial idea.

But the shirt, remember that?
>
>So yes, all lives matter -- but when a house is on fire in a neighborhood,
>you put out _that_ fire. If someone comes over and starts yelling, "my
>house matters too!", they get ignored, or put in a rubber room, or
>whatever.
>
That's nice. But what about the shirt?

>Now, I'll agree with one thing: if a guy says "I can't breathe" while
>being choked, and then dies -- well, that's a problem, no matter what
>color his skin. I wrote a blog post about use of force that doesn't
>mention race. "The minimum force necessary to compel compliance" is the
>standard. It's just that that kind of brutality has been
>disproportionately aimed at people of color. BLM has taken it upon
>themselves to demonstrate against police brutality -- and believe it or
>not, they are demonstrating for _your_ rights, too. I know you won't
>believe it, but they are.

Is that why they are saying I should pay reparations? Is that why they
want me to apologize? I didn't do anything to apologize for. So if I
wear a WLM shirt to a protest will they protect my right to wear it?
>
>What makes matters worse is the disproportionate response to the
>demonstrations we've seen. There are people rioting and looting, and that
>makes for good news...see my previous post about how news organizations
>all want you to say to yourself "my God, what is this world coming to?" --
>but I digress.

It's true. Racial protest have been happening since the dawn of man.
Assholes burning down their own towns is news worthy.
>
>Anyway, there are some bad actors trying to stir up shit. There might be
>some Antifa (the anti-fascists), but population overwhelmingly responsible
>for all the fires and property damage are fascists -- real fascists, not
>your bullshit name-calling of Antifa.)

Can you provide proof? I keep hearing this "but it's your fault" crap
forever. I watch youtube where you get stuff right off the street. I
know what I saw and what they were saying. I saw them drag a woman out
of her car and beat the hell out of her because she just wanted to go
home.
>
>This includes groups like the Proud Boys, who are being deplatformed all
>the way to Hell currently. It also includes the Boogaloo bois -- and if
>you think all Boogs wear identifying clothing, then I think you're just
>adorable.

If "antifa" doesn't exist than neither do they.
>
>So one very big problem in all this is the very people being demonstrated
>against are the people who have the guns and the flash bangs and the tear
>gas and the mobile personnel carriers. (I'm surprised they aren't using
>sonic or irradiative weapons, but maybe that's not legal against U.S.
>citizens in "the homeland".) They had been constantly crossing the line
>in suppressing a constitutionally-protected right of demonstration.

There you go again. I saw them. I saw the assholes throwing bricks and
fireworks at the cops. I saw them breaking into stores and setting
fires. They ask for what they get.
>
>So you have stupid crap like people getting shot with pepper bullets for
>being on their own porch, which was a perfectly valid place to be during
>Minneapolis' bullshit curfew. "Light 'em up!" Said the _bad apples_.
>(Hmm. Sure are a lot of those -- but I digress again.) You also have
>people popping smoke grenades and other ordinance at people's heads.
>(That bullshit also happened during the Occupy demonstrations, it's not a
>new thing.)

You sure are one sided on this.
>
>Oh, and how about undercover cops inciting riots? You got a problem with
>that? That kind of thing goes back to the Pinkerton detectives, when
>unions were striking and demonstrating for things like a 40-day work week
>and collective bargaining.

Prove that happened.
>
>Sometimes, it's the cops initiating the violence in these demonstrations.
>I'm not saying they're doing all of it -- but they aren't doing _none_ of
>it either. Between their goose-stepping around and the Proud Boys and
>Boogaloo Bois gunning down cops (see article from Atlantic I posted
>earlier), there's not much room for peace.

Yup, one sided.
>
>(I could ramble on more about this, but I got to try to medicate my cat.
>We just found out she has cancer, so she'll be on medication for the rest
>of her short life, probably about 2 years before she will need to head to
>the rainbow bridge.)

That's to bad, Pets are the best. Music and my puppys are my therapy.

Jason Todd!!!

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Jul 9, 2020, 8:32:54 PM7/9/20
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Actually too many snowflakes. Like you.


Jason

Skeeter

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Jul 9, 2020, 8:39:02 PM7/9/20
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Snowflake was pasted on you crybaby libs but since you have nothing
original you had to flip it. That's ok, always here to help.

So still no answer, typical flip and run. Why is it racist if I wear a
WLM shirt and not if I wear a BLM shirt?

Careful now, try not to blow up Google.

robert stickler

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Jul 9, 2020, 9:36:41 PM7/9/20
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white lives matter

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On 9 Jul 2020 21:22:08 GMT, LO AND BEHOLD; vallor <val...@cultnix.org>
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maybe skeeter was just talking about st paddy's day parades and not the snowflakey white supremacy stuff?

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