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I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp

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Jun 3, 2005, 6:01:28 PM6/3/05
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I've never watched a Harry Potter movie.

The last CGI movie I saw was Toy Story 1 (besides Incredibles which
doesn't really count). Never seen Ice Age, Finding Nemo, Shrek, etc and
don't intend to.

The last Tom Hanks movie I watched was Forrest Gump. The last Jim
Carrey movie I watched was Dumb and Dumber. The last Michael Bay movie
I watched was Independence Day. The last Will Smith movie I watched was
Indepence Day. The last Duane "the Rock" Johnson movie I saw was the
Mummy Returns.

I only watched the Mission Impossible movies recently and still haven't
watched Vanilla Sky or Magnolia. I only watched the Bourne movies
recently.

I haven't seen hardly any movies Harrison Ford made in the 1990s, Air
Force One and those Jack Ryan movies looked boring. I hate Tom Clancy
and political suspense movies.

I haven't seen any movies Spielberg has made since the 1980s with the
exception of Saving Private Ryan. Haven't seen Schindler's list,
Admistad, AI, Hook, the ones he did with Tom Hanks, or any of those
movies. I hate Steven Spielberg.

Never seen Meet the Parents or Meet the Fockers. The only Ben Stiller
movies I've seen are Something About Mary and Dodgeball.

C The Shocker

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Jun 3, 2005, 6:04:07 PM6/3/05
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> The last CGI movie I saw was Toy Story 1 (besides Incredibles which
> doesn't really count).

This is non-sequitor. How does "The Incredibles" not "count" as a CGI movie?

--
C The Shocker
2005 King of RSPW
Apathetic Member of the Cult of Meh
You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?


I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp

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Jun 3, 2005, 6:11:46 PM6/3/05
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It wasn't a cute kids movie comedy that made 500 million dollars.
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Calvin Rice

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I haven't seen Million Dollar Baby or Cinderella Man, and never will,
because I don't like boxing, or boxing movies. Never could stand
them, and quit seeing them in the 1950s after Somebody Up There
Likes Me. I'm not sure whether I saw that one or not, but I remember
dreading the thought of sitting through it.

-cr

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cloud dreamer

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Jun 3, 2005, 6:48:45 PM6/3/05
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I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp wrote:
>Haven't seen Schindler's list,


Your loss.

..

rms

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Jun 3, 2005, 6:48:18 PM6/3/05
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> The last CGI movie I saw was Toy Story 1 (besides Incredibles which
> doesn't really count). Never seen Ice Age, Finding Nemo, Shrek, etc and
> don't intend to.

I tried to watch The Lion King awhile back, had to eject it after 20
seconds. Every single disney cliche was evident, it was simply unwatchable.

> The last Jim
> Carrey movie I watched was Dumb and Dumber.

Eternal Sunshine... was excellent.


>The last Duane "the Rock" Johnson movie I saw was the
> Mummy Returns.

The Rundown was an enjoyable action movie.

> I only watched the Mission Impossible movies recently and still haven't
> watched Vanilla Sky or Magnolia.

VS was good, Magnolia is a very memorable film.

> Never seen Meet the Parents or Meet the Fockers.

MtP was genuinely humorous, MtF didn't add anything new, and the
additional starpower was a distraction.

rms


The Real Parakeet

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"cloud dreamer" <inv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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Pulp Fiction, I've tried I just don't get what the fuss is about.


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Abed

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"The Real Parakeet" <sp...@uce.gov> wrote in message
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Ditto


lauracap

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Jun 3, 2005, 7:26:47 PM6/3/05
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I've never seen "It's A Wonderful Life" or "Forrest Gump" and I
probably never will.

Laura

Quiet Desperation

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Jun 3, 2005, 7:39:41 PM6/3/05
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In article <1117836088.7...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, I'm
a djinn, wanna rub my lamp <imagenie...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I've never watched...

I still have not seen Titanic.

I'm going for the record.

Captain Infinity

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Jun 3, 2005, 7:42:20 PM6/3/05
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Once Upon A Time I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp wrote:

>I've never watched a

<snip>

I've never seen "Casablanca". I own the special edition DVD set, but
have never watched it. I will someday, though.

A couple of years ago I finally broke down and watched "Gone With The
Wind". It didn't suck, but I doubt I'll ever sit through it again.

On the flipside, I think I've seen "Groundhog Day" and "Let It Ride"
about 50 times each, and they never grow tiring.

Now ask me how many times I've seen the Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck cartoon
"Rabbit Seasoning". Go ahead, ask. Nevermind, you don't want to know.

SO SHOOT ME NOW!


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Captain Infinity

Captain Infinity

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Jun 3, 2005, 7:45:21 PM6/3/05
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Once Upon A Time lauracap wrote:

>I've never seen "It's A Wonderful Life"

You're lucky, it's horrible.

>or "Forrest Gump"

You're unlucky, it great.

>and I probably never will.

Your choice.


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Captain Infinity

Rockboy

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Jun 3, 2005, 7:47:45 PM6/3/05
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Nearly every single Tom Hanks or Tom Cruise movie ever.

--
Rockboy
Everybody's all right
Everything is automatic

ric...@nospam.edu

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"I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp" <imagenie...@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:1117836088.7...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> I've never watched a Harry Potter movie.

I saw the first film of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, that was
enough for me. I have no interest in seeing the other two films.


Richard


the Bede

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"lauracap" <laur...@erols.com> wrote in message
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> I've never seen "It's A Wonderful Life" or "Forrest Gump" and I
> probably never will.
>
that's just sad. here's a tissue.


Chris

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"the Bede" <rspwsow...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Star wars 1 and 2
>


Steven L.

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Thank you. I always wondered if I was the only one who wasn't awed by
that movie.


--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email: sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net

Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.

Steven L.

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I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp wrote:

> I've never watched a Harry Potter movie.

Neither have I.

>
> The last CGI movie I saw was Toy Story 1 (besides Incredibles which
> doesn't really count). Never seen Ice Age, Finding Nemo, Shrek, etc and
> don't intend to.

I haven't seen any of these.

Here are some older famous movies I have NOT seen:

The Battleship Potemkin
The Shawshank Redemption
American Beauty
Sunset Boulevard
Raging Bull
Brazil

Red Schism

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Jun 3, 2005, 10:16:16 PM6/3/05
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Captain Infinity wrote:
> Once Upon A Time lauracap wrote:
> >or "Forrest Gump"
>
> You're unlucky, it great.

I'd like it... if I were gay.

Red Schism

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Jun 3, 2005, 10:21:22 PM6/3/05
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I have not seen any of the new Star Wars movies, and doubt that I will.
Star Wars was cool 25 years ago, George "(I hate)America is an Empire"
Lucas should have left it there.

zaryza...@yahoo.com

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I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp wrote:


> I haven't seen any movies Spielberg has made since the 1980s with the
> exception of Saving Private Ryan. Haven't seen Schindler's list,
> Admistad, AI, Hook, the ones he did with Tom Hanks, or any of those
> movies. I hate Steven Spielberg.

Do you mean, you hate him personally? Because if you hate his movies, I
wonder on what basis you're making that judgment, considering you
basically haven't seen any of his movies (or rather, haven't seen
anything he's made in a long long time).

noydb

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Jun 3, 2005, 10:34:02 PM6/3/05
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On 3 Jun 2005 15:01:28 -0700, "I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp"
<imagenie...@hotmail.com> wrote:


>I haven't seen any movies Spielberg has made since the 1980s with the
>exception of Saving Private Ryan. Haven't seen Schindler's list,
>Admistad, AI, Hook, the ones he did with Tom Hanks, or any of those
>movies. I hate Steven Spielberg.

You hate Speilberg ? How do you know ?

Do yourself a favor.
Find a copy of Schindler's List.
Sit down in a darkened room and watch it...pay attention to every
little detail. Then come back here and tell us you don't think it is
the greatest movie ever made..
Go ahead; I dare you.

It's a truly extraordinary movie.
An amazing work of art.

As for the rest of the crap on your list (including most of those
Speilberg movies) ...you didn't miss much.

Cheers, -N

atomic fireball

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Jun 3, 2005, 10:45:24 PM6/3/05
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On 3 Jun 2005 15:01:28 -0700, "I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp"
<imagenie...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I've never watched a Harry Potter movie.
>

>The last CGI movie I saw was Toy Story 1 (besides Incredibles which
>doesn't really count). Never seen Ice Age, Finding Nemo, Shrek, etc and
>don't intend to.
>

>The last Tom Hanks movie I watched was Forrest Gump. The last Jim
>Carrey movie I watched was Dumb and Dumber. The last Michael Bay movie
>I watched was Independence Day. The last Will Smith movie I watched was
>Indepence Day. The last Duane "the Rock" Johnson movie I saw was the
>Mummy Returns.
>


>I only watched the Mission Impossible movies recently and still haven't

>watched Vanilla Sky or Magnolia. I only watched the Bourne movies
>recently.
>
>I haven't seen hardly any movies Harrison Ford made in the 1990s, Air
>Force One and those Jack Ryan movies looked boring. I hate Tom Clancy
>and political suspense movies.


>
>I haven't seen any movies Spielberg has made since the 1980s with the
>exception of Saving Private Ryan. Haven't seen Schindler's list,
>Admistad, AI, Hook, the ones he did with Tom Hanks, or any of those
>movies. I hate Steven Spielberg.
>

>Never seen Meet the Parents or Meet the Fockers. The only Ben Stiller
>movies I've seen are Something About Mary and Dodgeball.


To paraphrase Chris Rock - "Poseurs love to not know shit!"

David E. Powell

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Jun 4, 2005, 12:31:02 AM6/4/05
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Anyone who hates Spielberg should watch "1941." Very underrated, funny
as hell, and the homages to other films are perfect (watch him riff on
"Jaws" in the opener, and there is a scene where Dan Ackroyd rallies
the people from a tank which is lifted from a famous photo of Lenin in
Red Square during the revolution.)

Plus it features Toshiro Mifune having fun with his own serious image,
which is huge.

Rockboy

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Jun 4, 2005, 12:45:01 AM6/4/05
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Some of us don't feel the need to watch movies that glorify being a
fucking retard.

Krusty

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Jun 4, 2005, 12:34:41 AM6/4/05
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"David E. Powell" <David_Po...@msn.com> wrote...

Easily one of my top favorite movies of all time.

--
Krusty
RSP-W Poster of the Year, 2004
Get a fucking opinion. Post it, or don't waste our time.


dgates

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Jun 4, 2005, 4:29:19 AM6/4/05
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I felt the same way after seeing the first one -- like it must have
been a movie made for someone else, 'cause it sure wasn't doing
anything for me!

Then I somehow saw the second one and said, "Oh! I see..." Somehow,
from the beginning of the second one, already knowing who the
characters were, I was able to get quickly into the movie and was glad
I had seen it.

I'd recommend the extended DVD of the second one -- maybe some
afternoon when you don't have anything else to do, or broken up over a
couple of evenings.

trotsky

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Jun 4, 2005, 6:43:38 AM6/4/05
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lauracap wrote:

> I've never seen "It's A Wonderful Life" or "Forrest Gump" and I
> probably never will.


I don't think there's a Frank Capra movie that isn't worth seeing.

apkies...@hotmail.com

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Jun 4, 2005, 7:11:34 AM6/4/05
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Citizen Kane.


Andrew Kieswetter (not a movie)

apkies...@hotmail.com

lauracap

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Jun 4, 2005, 7:19:37 AM6/4/05
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>Nearly every single Tom Hanks or Tom Cruise movie ever.

If you are like me about avoiding Tom Hanks movies, you might still
like Road To Perdition. I didn't see it in the theater but I saw it on
HBO (or some othe pay channel) and it was very very good. I'm guessing
it didn't do as well at the box office as his other movies because it
is so unlike his other movies...which is probably why I liked it.

Laura

Calvin Rice

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Jun 4, 2005, 8:55:42 AM6/4/05
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David E. Powell wrote:
> ... "1941." Very underrated, funny as hell, ......

Not even faintly amusing. I never cracked a smile.

-cr

Jorabi

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Jun 4, 2005, 11:21:58 AM6/4/05
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I had never seen Casablanca until a few months ago after
being ragged-on in RAT in a similar thread for not having
seen it. It was interesting, but after it was over I
said "That's it?". Maybe my expectations were too high.

dgates

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Jun 4, 2005, 11:41:49 AM6/4/05
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Ahh, the "fuss" again! :-)

Much better to go into Casablanca worrying that it might be one of
those old, stale movies that people are unfairly pumping up simply
because it's old, and then say "Oh, wow, I wasn't expecting it to
start like *that*," and "Hey, that was a really good scene," and "That
guy is awesome," and, maybe most importantly, "*That* guy too!"

Yes, I saw it with low expectations and really liked it.

hipechik34

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Jun 4, 2005, 11:44:26 AM6/4/05
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atomic fireball wrote:

> To paraphrase Chris Rock - "Poseurs love to not know shit!"

Someone is a little confused. I thought the point of this thread was
for people to post movies that they HAVEN'T seen. If the person you're
responding to is doing just that, then how does that make him a poseur?

John Harkness

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On 4 Jun 2005 08:44:26 -0700, "hipechik34" <hipec...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

He's talking about people hating filmmakers and actors whose work he
admits he hasn't seen anything they've done in more than a decade.

Hating something you haven't seen is the stance of, well, a poseur.
"I'm too cool to even entertain the idea of seeing Steven Spielberg
movie"

John Harkness

Nick Macpherson

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Jun 4, 2005, 12:37:26 PM6/4/05
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Anti-Spielberg poseurs who have managed to see one or two of his movies
are usually fond of the "he hasn't done anything good since Duel" line.

George Peatty

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On 3 Jun 2005 15:26:45 -0700, "Calvin Rice" <os...@netscape.net> wrote:

>I haven't seen Million Dollar Baby or Cinderella Man, and never will,
>because I don't like boxing, or boxing movies. Never could stand
>them, and quit seeing them in the 1950s after Somebody Up There
>Likes Me. I'm not sure whether I saw that one or not, but I remember
>dreading the thought of sitting through it.

It wasn't bad. It helps if you knew Graziano a little bit. He was a staple
on the talk show circuit of the 60's and 70's: A lovable airhead, heavy on
charm, light on substance. You listen to him schmoose for awhile, and it's
hard not to like the movie. Not Newman's best known or best liked role, but
he was very good in it IMO ..

George Peatty

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On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 01:29:19 -0700, dgates <dga...@spamlinkline.com> wrote:

>>I saw the first film of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, that was
>>enough for me. I have no interest in seeing the other two films.

[snip]

>I'd recommend the extended DVD of the second one -- maybe some
>afternoon when you don't have anything else to do, or broken up over a
>couple of evenings.

The movies stand alone, but they can be better appreciated and better
understood when one has read Tolkien's story.

Mike V.

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On 4 Jun 2005 04:19:37 -0700, "lauracap" <laur...@erols.com> posted :

And a different type of movie that was good and he was good in was the
Coen Brothers remake of "Lady Killers".
Not their best outting (that would be Big Lebowski, one of the
greatest movies ever made) but it's still really good.
They pretty much have batted .1000, but there are certainly standouts.
The two above are, as are Fargo, Raising Arizona, O' Brother Where Art
Thou and Millers Crossing. The latter is fucking awesome.

Mike V.

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On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 17:08:27 -0700, <ric...@nospam.edu> posted :

>
>"I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp" <imagenie...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>message news:1117836088.7...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> I've never watched a Harry Potter movie.
>

>I saw the first film of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, that was
>enough for me. I have no interest in seeing the other two films.

They're just OK. Same for the written work.
It's just a glorified fairy tale.

Mike V.

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On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 01:32:58 GMT, "Steven L."
<sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> posted :

>
>
>I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp wrote:
>
>> I've never watched a Harry Potter movie.
>
>Neither have I.
>
>>
>> The last CGI movie I saw was Toy Story 1 (besides Incredibles which
>> doesn't really count). Never seen Ice Age, Finding Nemo, Shrek, etc and
>> don't intend to.
>
>I haven't seen any of these.
>
>Here are some older famous movies I have NOT seen:
>
>The Battleship Potemkin
>The Shawshank Redemption

You really should. It's one of the greatest American movies ever
made.

>American Beauty

Pretty good. Kevin Spacey and Chris Cooper are both great.

>Sunset Boulevard
>Raging Bull

Another great American film.
The fight scenes are some of the most brutal movie boxing scenes ever.

>Brazil

This is a ground breaking movie that is not for everyone.
It's surreal and dark and darkly funny.

Mike V.

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On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 15:21:58 GMT, "Jorabi" <jor...@pobox.com> posted :

Better Bogart movie that will not disappoint:

Maltese Falcon
The Big Sleep
Dark Passage (awesome!)

Bill Becker

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"Mike V." <mich...@SPAMcox.net> wrote in message
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You didn't like African Queen?


Tom Zielinski

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"Mike V." <mich...@SPAMcox.net> wrote in message
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They've made six good movies and 54 bad ones?! No way. Their batting
average is much closer to .800, which are Hall of Fame statistics.

John Harkness

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On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 12:20:37 -0600, "Bill Becker" <bb...@rmisp.com>
wrote:

back up.

He thinks Dark Passage is better than Casablanca?

John Harkness
"Granting that there's several Bogarts better than Casablanca, but
Dark Passage ain't one of 'em."

Mike V.

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On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:38:09 -0500, "Tom Zielinski" <rt...@comcast.net>
posted :

I put the decimal in the wrong place!

Turk

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Jun 4, 2005, 3:27:31 PM6/4/05
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Haven't seen Titanic either. I COULD but not really interested.

Add Pulp Fiction (really almost anything Tarantino - too in love with
violence)
Schindler's List (too depressing)
Most of Mel Gibson's flicks in last ten years - Braveheart, Passion and
the like (too in love with gore)
Anything directed by Michael Bay (the guy is a hack)
Gladiator (hmmm, probably should see that one)

The list could go on

Turk

John Harkness

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On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:38:09 -0500, "Tom Zielinski" <rt...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Good catch.

John Harkness

Mike V.

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On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 14:28:04 -0400, John Harkness
<jhXaYr...@sympatico.ca> posted :

>On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 12:20:37 -0600, "Bill Becker" <bb...@rmisp.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mike V." <mich...@SPAMcox.net> wrote in message
>>news:avr3a1pkplnj5more...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 15:21:58 GMT, "Jorabi" <jor...@pobox.com> posted :
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I had never seen Casablanca until a few months ago after
>>>>being ragged-on in RAT in a similar thread for not having
>>>>seen it. It was interesting, but after it was over I
>>>>said "That's it?". Maybe my expectations were too high.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Better Bogart movie that will not disappoint:
>>>
>>> Maltese Falcon
>>> The Big Sleep
>>> Dark Passage (awesome!)
>>>
>>You didn't like African Queen?

I liked the above better.

>>
>
>back up.
>
>He thinks Dark Passage is better than Casablanca?

They are more my type of movie.
Little darker and more funny (except for Dark Passage)

trotsky

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John Harkness wrote:


That's a bunch of shit, if you ask me. The Coen Bros. are exactly what
you described Jim Jarmusch to be.

trotsky

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Mike V. wrote:


Which one is "the latter" when you've listed four titles?

trotsky

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Nick Macpherson wrote:


I'm hard pressed to come up with a single Spielberg title that doesn't
fall under the heading of "overwrought" or "manipulative" or both.

Rockboy

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Jun 4, 2005, 4:57:56 PM6/4/05
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Mike V. wrote:

>>American Beauty
>
> Pretty good. Kevin Spacey and Chris Cooper are both great.

Kevin Spacey is not great. I need to avoid more movies with him in it.

--
Rockboy
Everybody's all right
Everything is automatic

Tom Zielinski

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"Mike V." <mich...@SPAMcox.net> wrote in message
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I had considered that, actually...
>


Rockboy

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lauracap wrote:
>>Nearly every single Tom Hanks or Tom Cruise movie ever.
>
> If you are like me about avoiding Tom Hanks movies, you might still
> like Road To Perdition. I didn't see it in the theater but I saw it on
> HBO (or some othe pay channel) and it was very very good.

Rented it once with an old girlfriend because she'd heard it was good.
We both fell asleep fifteen minutes in to the movie. That fifteen
minutes was the most boring fifteen minutes of my life.

Mike V.

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On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:20:49 GMT, trotsky <gms...@email.com> posted :

Millers Crossing.

John Harkness

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On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:56:09 GMT, Rockboy <roc...@rockboy.net> wrote:

>lauracap wrote:
>>>Nearly every single Tom Hanks or Tom Cruise movie ever.
>>
>> If you are like me about avoiding Tom Hanks movies, you might still
>> like Road To Perdition. I didn't see it in the theater but I saw it on
>> HBO (or some othe pay channel) and it was very very good.
>
>Rented it once with an old girlfriend because she'd heard it was good.
>We both fell asleep fifteen minutes in to the movie. That fifteen
>minutes was the most boring fifteen minutes of my life.

You really need to track down Bela Tarr's Satantango if you think Road
to Perdition is dull.

John Harkness

Calvin Rice

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trotsky proclaimed:

> I'm hard pressed to come up with a single Spielberg title that
> doesn't fall under the heading of "overwrought" or "manipulative"
> or both.

What's wrong with 'manipulative'? (In movies, that is, not people.)

Then your favorite director isn't manipulative, I suppose.
(Nor overwrought, for that matter.)

-cr

Smart Ape - I K00k & Go As I Please

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"Rockboy" <roc...@rockboy.net> wrote in message
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>Nearly every single Tom Hanks or Tom Cruise movie ever.

Why do you hate Bachelor Party?
--
--- "Damn dirty fleas..."
--- "Ever notice that at the start of a cartoon, Casper has no friends, and
by the end, he has some. Yet, in the next cartoon, he's friendless again?
Therefore, I think Casper is a soul-sucking-vampire-ghost."
--- Proud loser of TWO 2004 RSPW Poster Awards
--- 3rd Highest Vote-Getter in KORSPW 2005
--- Space (Animal) Hero #1 of the 1950's and 60's

trotsky

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Calvin Rice wrote:


Are you trying to lead up to a diatribe for "The Passion of the Christ"?

jmc

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"I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp" <imagenie...@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:1117836088.7...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I've never watched a Harry Potter movie.
>
> The last CGI movie I saw was Toy Story 1 (besides Incredibles which
> doesn't really count). Never seen Ice Age, Finding Nemo, Shrek, etc and
> don't intend to.
>
> The last Tom Hanks movie I watched was Forrest Gump. The last Jim
> Carrey movie I watched was Dumb and Dumber. The last Michael Bay movie
> I watched was Independence Day. The last Will Smith movie I watched was
> Indepence Day. The last Duane "the Rock" Johnson movie I saw was the
> Mummy Returns.
>
> I only watched the Mission Impossible movies recently and still haven't
> watched Vanilla Sky or Magnolia. I only watched the Bourne movies
> recently.
>
> I haven't seen hardly any movies Harrison Ford made in the 1990s, Air
> Force One and those Jack Ryan movies looked boring. I hate Tom Clancy
> and political suspense movies.
>
> I haven't seen any movies Spielberg has made since the 1980s with the
> exception of Saving Private Ryan. Haven't seen Schindler's list,
> Admistad, AI, Hook, the ones he did with Tom Hanks, or any of those
> movies. I hate Steven Spielberg.
>
> Never seen Meet the Parents or Meet the Fockers. The only Ben Stiller
> movies I've seen are Something About Mary and Dodgeball.
>

Why would anyone want to see any of the rubbishy movies you mentioned?
Commercial Hollywood crap, and a waste of anyone's time.


Captain Infinity

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Jun 4, 2005, 9:07:50 PM6/4/05
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Once Upon A Time Rockboy wrote:

>> If you are like me about avoiding Tom Hanks movies, you might still
>> like Road To Perdition. I didn't see it in the theater but I saw it on
>> HBO (or some othe pay channel) and it was very very good.
>
>Rented it once with an old girlfriend because she'd heard it was good.
>We both fell asleep fifteen minutes in to the movie. That fifteen
>minutes was the most boring fifteen minutes of my life.

Man, that must have been one damn crappy girlfriend.


**
Captain Infinity

Nick Macpherson

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Spielberg's a crazily gifted director with crazily obvious flaws. But
most everything he does is fifty percent of good film (And fifty
percent the manipulative, schmaltzy, indulgent, overlong, how many
endings does this film have?, wrecks his critics accuse him of) so I'm
always there on opening day. It does get frustrating, though, enjoying
the first hour of a Spielberg movie and knowing it's going to go to
shit as you sit there.

Captain Infinity

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Jun 4, 2005, 10:16:09 PM6/4/05
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Once Upon A Time Nick Macpherson wrote:

>Spielberg's a crazily gifted director with crazily obvious flaws. But
>most everything he does is fifty percent of good film (And fifty
>percent the manipulative, schmaltzy, indulgent, overlong, how many
>endings does this film have?, wrecks his critics accuse him of) so I'm
>always there on opening day. It does get frustrating, though, enjoying
>the first hour of a Spielberg movie and knowing it's going to go to
>shit as you sit there.

Theater exit doors are clearly marked.


**
Captain Infinity

Calvin Rice

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Jun 4, 2005, 10:49:07 PM6/4/05
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trotsky, struggling to comprehend the obvious:

> Are you trying to lead up to a diatribe for
> "The Passion of the Christ"?

Nope. Not leading up to anything. Just pointing out your
shifting standards as you apply them to different directors.

Actually, anything addressed to you unfortunately is
leading up to something: an explanation of what anyone
else would have understood upon first reading.

-cr

Rockboy

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Captain Infinity wrote:

In retrospect, yes.

deering24

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lauracap wrote:

> I've never seen "It's A Wonderful Life" or "Forrest Gump" and I
> probably never will.

A shame you missed the first one. It's a good thing you missed the second.

C.
**


deering24

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Calvin Rice wrote:

> David E. Powell wrote:
>
>>... "1941." Very underrated, funny as hell, ......
>
>
> Not even faintly amusing. I never cracked a smile.

A truly lousy movie. A Spielberg movie for people looking for a good
reason to hate him.

C.
**


trotsky

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Jun 5, 2005, 5:59:57 AM6/5/05
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Nick Macpherson wrote:


But ultimately, to me, all the you end up with is a guy with tremendous
technical prowess that can't make a good movie to save his life. It's
kind of the opposite of the auteur theory: Spielberg wields tremendous
power in Hollywood, co-owns his own production company, etc.--and yet if
he was forced to work with a producer that kicked him in the ass
repeatedly and told him to make good movies I think you would see
different results. (And no, George Lucas doesn't count.)

I did see "The Terminal" recently and thought it was quite good, but it
also struck me as one of the least Spielberg of the Spielberg movies. I
half expected Hanks' character to go looking for his mommy by the end.

trotsky

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Jun 5, 2005, 6:04:45 AM6/5/05
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Calvin Rice wrote:

> trotsky, struggling to comprehend the obvious:
>
>>Are you trying to lead up to a diatribe for
>>"The Passion of the Christ"?
>
>
> Nope. Not leading up to anything. Just pointing out your
> shifting standards as you apply them to different directors.


This is interesting, and rather hallucinogenic: which different
directors have you imagined my applying different standards too? And
what are these standards?


> Actually, anything addressed to you unfortunately is
> leading up to something: an explanation of what anyone
> else would have understood upon first reading.


Why Calvin, I posted a rather innocent at "The Passion", as some of the
more sheep like movie goers like to call it, and you post this crap like
you're hoping for a flame fest. Either you have the guts to discuss the
topic or you don't--you pick.

ANIM8Rfsk

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in article 8A5oe.121$2e7...@news01.roc.ny, Abed at XXsho...@lycos.com
wrote on 6/3/05 4:19 PM:

>
> "The Real Parakeet" <sp...@uce.gov> wrote in message
> news:3gc5e9F...@individual.net...
>>
>> "cloud dreamer" <inv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:11a1nid...@corp.supernews.com...


>> |
>> |
>> | I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp wrote:
>> | >Haven't seen Schindler's list,
>> |
>> |

>> | Your loss.
>> |
>> | ..
>> |
>>
>> Pulp Fiction, I've tried I just don't get what the fuss is about.
>>
> Ditto
>
>
I made a 'linear' version of PF and gave it to a friend who loves the movie.
He HATED it in linear form and wiped the tape!

ANIM8Rfsk

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in article S65oe.15954$iA6....@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com, rms at
rsqu...@flashREMOVE.net wrote on 6/3/05 3:48 PM:

>> The last CGI movie I saw was Toy Story 1 (besides Incredibles which
>> doesn't really count). Never seen Ice Age, Finding Nemo, Shrek, etc and
>> don't intend to.
>

> I tried to watch The Lion King awhile back, had to eject it after 20
> seconds. Every single disney cliche was evident, it was simply unwatchable.

I've never sat all the way through it, although it was sure better than
Pocahontas or Tarzan.

ANIM8Rfsk

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in article 1117841207.5...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com, lauracap
at laur...@erols.com wrote on 6/3/05 4:26 PM:

> I've never seen "It's A Wonderful Life" or "Forrest Gump" and I
> probably never will.
>

> Laura
>

I've never sat down and watched IaWL but I've seen enough snips and homages
I think I know the whole thing.

FG was fun at the time, but I can't imagine it held up well.

ANIM8Rfsk

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in article 030620051639417464%nos...@nospam.com, Quiet Desperation at
nos...@nospam.com wrote on 6/3/05 4:39 PM:

> In article <1117836088.7...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, I'm
> a djinn, wanna rub my lamp <imagenie...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've never watched...
>
> I still have not seen Titanic.
>
> I'm going for the record.

It didn't call to me at all, but my folks wanted to see it, so I got it for
them.

They didn't think much of it, but I liked it.

<icy spoilers>


Despite some really unconvincing CGI stuff on the ship. And Kate Winslet's
character making me wish somebody had tossed her off the bow. And Leo not
being the grandfather. And the 'Friday the 13th' pop up out of the water
(would have been better to leave his fate unknown). And the 'wtf are you
throwing that into the water for' end.

It still works.

ANIM8Rfsk

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in article 57q1a1tmoi0pd1roi...@4ax.com, Captain Infinity at
Infi...@captaininfinity.us wrote on 6/3/05 4:42 PM:

> Once Upon A Time I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp wrote:
>
>> I've never watched a

> <snip>
>
> I've never seen "Casablanca".

Love it. Saw it for the first time in a revival theater with Play It Again
Sam.

I own the special edition DVD set, but
> have never watched it.

Me too.

I will someday, though.

Me too.

>
> A couple of years ago I finally broke down and watched "Gone With The
> Wind". It didn't suck, but I doubt I'll ever sit through it again.

got the DVD. Still haven't made it all the way through. Same notation for
Cleopatra.
>
> On the flipside, I think I've seen "Groundhog Day"

YES!

and "Let It Ride"
> about 50 times each, and they never grow tiring.

Now wait. You can watch Groundhog Day 50 times in a single day. That's not
much of an accomplishment. Never seen LiR.
>
> Now ask me how many times I've seen the Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck cartoon
> "Rabbit Seasoning". Go ahead, ask. Nevermind, you don't want to know.

hee hee
>
> SO SHOOT ME NOW!
>
>
> **
> Captain Infinity

Stephen Cooke

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On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Quiet Desperation wrote:

> In article <1117836088.7...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, I'm
> a djinn, wanna rub my lamp <imagenie...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've never watched...
>
> I still have not seen Titanic.
>
> I'm going for the record.

I haven't seen it either, and I live in the town where the modern-day bits
were filmed!

swac
Not to mention where the wrap party chowder was spiked with PCP.

ANIM8Rfsk

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in article 42a0d3d8$0$18645$1472...@news.sunsite.dk, C The Shocker at
chri...@comcast.FUCKOFFSPAMMERS.com wrote on 6/3/05 3:04 PM:

>> The last CGI movie I saw was Toy Story 1 (besides Incredibles which
>> doesn't really count).
>

> This is non-sequitor. How does "The Incredibles" not "count" as a CGI movie?

Maybe it doesn't count because they haven't seen it?

ANIM8Rfsk

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in article B_5oe.1566558$6l.80618@pd7tw2no, Rockboy at roc...@rockboy.net
wrote on 6/3/05 4:47 PM:

> Nearly every single Tom Hanks or Tom Cruise movie ever.

Best Hanks movie is still Joe VS the Volcano.

Stephen Cooke

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On 4 Jun 2005, Nick Macpherson wrote:
> John Harkness wrote:
> > On 4 Jun 2005 08:44:26 -0700, "hipechik34" <hipec...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >atomic fireball wrote:
> > >
> > >> To paraphrase Chris Rock - "Poseurs love to not know shit!"
> > >
> > >Someone is a little confused. I thought the point of this thread was
> > >for people to post movies that they HAVEN'T seen. If the person you're
> > >responding to is doing just that, then how does that make him a poseur?
> >
> > He's talking about people hating filmmakers and actors whose work he
> > admits he hasn't seen anything they've done in more than a decade.
> >
> > Hating something you haven't seen is the stance of, well, a poseur.
> > "I'm too cool to even entertain the idea of seeing Steven Spielberg
> > movie"
> >
> Anti-Spielberg poseurs who have managed to see one or two of his movies
> are usually fond of the "he hasn't done anything good since Duel" line.

I usually grant him Sugarland Express...

swac
Okay, Close Encounters.

how...@brazee.net

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Jun 5, 2005, 1:44:27 PM6/5/05
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On 5-Jun-2005, ANIM8Rfsk <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:

> >> The last CGI movie I saw was Toy Story 1 (besides Incredibles which
> >> doesn't really count).
> >
> > This is non-sequitor. How does "The Incredibles" not "count" as a CGI
> > movie?
>
> Maybe it doesn't count because they haven't seen it?

That doesn't fit in to the first quote above.

The word "really" must mean something. It virtually counts as a CGI movie?

ANIM8Rfsk

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in article %RGoe.2366$W77...@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net,
how...@brazee.net at how...@brazee.net wrote on 6/5/05 10:44 AM:

I agree it doesn't fit really well, but maybe Incredibles didn't count
because they only saw 20 minutes of it and had to leave or something. I
realize that's a stretch, but not nearly as much of a one as it takes to say
TI isn't CGI.

ANIM8Rfsk

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in article oBooe.1571864$8l.941460@pd7tw1no, Rockboy at roc...@rockboy.net
wrote on 6/4/05 1:57 PM:

> Mike V. wrote:
>
>>> American Beauty
>>
>> Pretty good. Kevin Spacey and Chris Cooper are both great.
>
> Kevin Spacey is not great. I need to avoid more movies with him in it.

American Beauty was like 'wtf'???

It was like it just ended with another 20 or 30 minutes left to go, which
would have been the interesting part.

ANIM8Rfsk

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in article ex7oe.374$4u6...@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net, Steven L. at
sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net wrote on 6/3/05 6:32 PM:

>
>
> I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp wrote:
>

>> I've never watched a Harry Potter movie.
>
> Neither have I.


>
>>
>> The last CGI movie I saw was Toy Story 1 (besides Incredibles which

>> doesn't really count). Never seen Ice Age, Finding Nemo, Shrek, etc and
>> don't intend to.
>

> I haven't seen any of these.
>
> Here are some older famous movies I have NOT seen:
>
> The Battleship Potemkin
> The Shawshank Redemption
> American Beauty
> Sunset Boulevard
> Raging Bull
> Brazil
>
Gads. You have to choose between at least 4 different versions of BRAZIL at
this point . . .

KenM47

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dgates <dga...@spamlinkline.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 15:21:58 GMT, "Jorabi" <jor...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>I had never seen Casablanca until a few months ago after
>>being ragged-on in RAT in a similar thread for not having
>>seen it. It was interesting, but after it was over I
>>said "That's it?". Maybe my expectations were too high.
>
>
>Ahh, the "fuss" again! :-)
>
>Much better to go into Casablanca worrying that it might be one of
>those old, stale movies that people are unfairly pumping up simply
>because it's old, and then say "Oh, wow, I wasn't expecting it to
>start like *that*," and "Hey, that was a really good scene," and "That
>guy is awesome," and, maybe most importantly, "*That* guy too!"
>
>Yes, I saw it with low expectations and really liked it.

Looks to me you have to be of a certain age, having seen Casablanca on
b/w TV in the 50s, and It's A Wonderful Life as well. Maybe later
generations are a tad too sophisticated or a tad too jaded. Probably
wouldn't get the appeal of Fred & Ginger either.

As for "big" films I've never seen all of:

The Sound of Music.
Reservoir Dogs


Ken (Brooklyn)

David Matthews

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Jun 5, 2005, 5:19:33 PM6/5/05
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Jorabi <jor...@pobox.com> wrote in article
<qGjoe.2593$fp6...@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...


>
> I had never seen Casablanca until a few months ago after
> being ragged-on in RAT in a similar thread for not having
> seen it. It was interesting, but after it was over I
> said "That's it?". Maybe my expectations were too high.
>
>
>
>

"Casablanca" isn't one of my favorites either. It's certainly not my
favorite Bogart film. Too sentimental.

Dave in Toronto

John Harkness

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I didn't see Casablanca until the 70s. And It's a Wonderful Life is a
film that became a great popular film until long after its release,
when it became an annual and almost inescapable TV holiday staple in
the 70s, when it wandered into the realm of public domain.

And why do you have to be of a certain age to appreciate a film with
great star performances, a dazzling assortment of character actors,
and a story of romantic renunciation for the greater good?

John Harkness

Rockboy

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Jun 5, 2005, 6:06:31 PM6/5/05
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That tells me all I need to know.

Rockboy

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Jun 5, 2005, 6:13:59 PM6/5/05
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ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
> in article oBooe.1571864$8l.941460@pd7tw1no, Rockboy at roc...@rockboy.net
> wrote on 6/4/05 1:57 PM:
>
>
>>Mike V. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>American Beauty
>>>
>>>Pretty good. Kevin Spacey and Chris Cooper are both great.
>>
>>Kevin Spacey is not great. I need to avoid more movies with him in it.
>
>
> American Beauty was like 'wtf'???

Haven't seen it, but I have a hard time buying in to a world where Kevin
Spacey likes girls.

Kevin Spacey movies I have seen

The Life of David Gale - Complete piece of shit with an ending that
destroys the point of the movie.

Se7en - Good movie despite Kevin Spacey, someone else could have played
that role.

K-PAX - Stupidest movie I have ever seen. No redeeming qualities
whatsoever.

Glengarry Glen Ross - Excellent movie, despite the presence of Kevin Spacey

Calvin Rice

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Jun 5, 2005, 6:55:12 PM6/5/05
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trotsky, with a skull full of concrete, mumbled:

>This is interesting, and rather hallucinogenic: which
>different directors have you imagined my applying
>different standards too? And what are these standards?

I'll humor you and answer this, leaving your other
questions for you to puzzle out on your own.

You complained that Spielberg movies are manipulative.
Yet you never mind the extreme manipulative filmmaking
of your favorite director, Michael Moore.

Having to explain the obvious to you after it has been
stated already clearly enough for any other primate is
just too tedious. Have a nice day.

-cr

I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp

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Jun 5, 2005, 7:07:47 PM6/5/05
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Both you and atomic fireball are a couple of sad faggots. I know the
movies sucked and I didn't want to watch them because of movie
trailers, magazines, interviews, behind the scene specials and movie
reviews. What, am I supposed to sit through an excrutiatingly bad movie
that I suspected was bad beforehand? You are bitches.

John Harkness wrote:
> On 4 Jun 2005 08:44:26 -0700, "hipechik34" <hipec...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >atomic fireball wrote:
> >
> >> To paraphrase Chris Rock - "Poseurs love to not know shit!"
> >
> >Someone is a little confused. I thought the point of this thread was
> >for people to post movies that they HAVEN'T seen. If the person you're
> >responding to is doing just that, then how does that make him a poseur?
>
> He's talking about people hating filmmakers and actors whose work he
> admits he hasn't seen anything they've done in more than a decade.
>
> Hating something you haven't seen is the stance of, well, a poseur.
> "I'm too cool to even entertain the idea of seeing Steven Spielberg
> movie"
>

> John Harkness

Jesus Christ, I've fallen into a trap, except instead of quicksand or
spikes it's filled with idiots.

I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp

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Jun 5, 2005, 7:11:09 PM6/5/05
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It doesn't count because it's not part of the "genre" that CGI movies
have become. It's not like Shrek, Ice Age, Finding Nemo, Madascar, and
those other gay kids movies.

Jorabi

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Jun 5, 2005, 7:18:59 PM6/5/05
to

"I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp" wrote ...
>
> ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
>
>> how...@brazee.net wrote:

>>
>> > ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
>> >
>> >>>> The last CGI movie I saw was Toy Story 1 (besides Incredibles which
>> >>>> doesn't really count).
>> >>>
>> >>> This is non-sequitor. How does "The Incredibles" not "count" as a CGI
>> >>> movie?
>> >>
>> >> Maybe it doesn't count because they haven't seen it?
>> >
>> > That doesn't fit in to the first quote above.
>> >
>> > The word "really" must mean something. It virtually counts as a CGI movie?
>>
>> I agree it doesn't fit really well, but maybe Incredibles didn't count
>> because they only saw 20 minutes of it and had to leave or something. I
>> realize that's a stretch, but not nearly as much of a one as it takes to say
>> TI isn't CGI.
>
> It doesn't count because it's not part of the "genre" that CGI movies
> have become. It's not like Shrek, Ice Age, Finding Nemo, Madascar, and
> those other gay kids movies.

That's ridiculous. CGI is the technology used to make the
movie and has nothing to do with the content.


how...@brazee.net

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Jun 5, 2005, 8:00:16 PM6/5/05
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On 5-Jun-2005, "I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp"
<imagenie...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> It doesn't count because it's not part of the "genre" that CGI movies
> have become. It's not like Shrek, Ice Age, Finding Nemo, Madascar, and
> those other gay kids movies.

That begs the question. CGI movies are "gay kids movies". _The
Incredibles isn't a "gay kids movies". Therefore, when you ask for us to
list CGI movies that aren't "gay kids movies", we can't count _The
Incredibles_ because it is not a CGI movie because even though it was
created using CGI, it isn't a "gay kids movie".

I saw _The Incredibles_ with my happy 5 year old grandson. Would he have
found Shrek more suited for him? Which movie had more adults watching it?

I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp

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Jun 5, 2005, 8:04:31 PM6/5/05
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You could say that same thing about cel animation, but look how most
people always thought of Disney kids movies when they thought about
animated movies.

trotsky

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Jun 5, 2005, 8:34:47 PM6/5/05
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Calvin Rice wrote:

> trotsky, with a skull full of concrete, mumbled:
>
>
>>This is interesting, and rather hallucinogenic: which
>>different directors have you imagined my applying
>>different standards too? And what are these standards?
>
>
> I'll humor you and answer this, leaving your other
> questions for you to puzzle out on your own.
>
> You complained that Spielberg movies are manipulative.
> Yet you never mind the extreme manipulative filmmaking
> of your favorite director, Michael Moore.


That's patently absurd. Moore makes documentaries, and isn't directly
comparable. Moreover, you're begging the questions of which of Moore's
films you've seen, and in what ways they're manipulative. That's just a
really shitty answer.


> Having to explain the obvious to you after it has been
> stated already clearly enough for any other primate is
> just too tedious. Have a nice day.


You really should killfile yourself.

John Harkness

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Jun 5, 2005, 8:28:47 PM6/5/05
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Congragulations.

You are now officially the stupidest person posting on r.a.m.c-f.

John Harkness

On 5 Jun 2005 16:11:09 -0700, "I'm a djinn, wanna rub my lamp"

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