Fox News hosts re: Trump on birth certificate
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Lloyd Parsons
bkn...@conramp.net wrote:
> This hasn't been discussed here. Yeah, its the Daily News but the
> video clips are there.
>
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/03/31/2011-03-31_bill_oreilly_fo
> x_news_host_rips_presidential_wannabe_donald_trump_over_obama_bir.html
>
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/04/04/2011-04-04_glenn_beck_dona
> ld_trump_making_me_a_little_uncomfortable_with_birther_remarks_ab.html
>
Looks bad for Trump if even the conservative lapdog yakkers aren't
enamored of him and see him for the blowhard he is!
--
Lloyd
BAR
bkn...@conramp.net says...
>
> This hasn't been discussed here. Yeah, its the Daily News but the
> video clips are there.
>
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/03/31/2011-03-31_bill_oreilly_fox_news_host_rips_presidential_wannabe_donald_trump_over_obama_bir.html
>
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/04/04/2011-04-04_glenn_beck_donald_trump_making_me_a_little_uncomfortable_with_birther_remarks_ab.html
Bill O'Reilly is a idiot. He is more interested in promoting himself
than anything else. Both he and Sean Hannity are more interested in
selling their most resent books than anything else.
Larry Whitaker
Nearly every talking head is afraid of being ridiculed on this issue.
ALL of them aspire to be the next mainstream media anchor earning $10+
million.
This issue is starting exactly like the Clinton-Lowinski thing did.
The mainstream press wouldn't touch it. Then slowly the cable
channels and talk radio--and especially Drudge just kept repeating
it--and finally Dan Rather, et. al. had to pick it up. From there it
went to impeachment.
The Obama birth thing will NOT go away because neither the White House
nor the DNC has made a serious effort to prove that Obama was born in
Hawaii--with a physician signed birth certificate. All but wildly
partisan nutcases realize that there can be no logical reason Obama
would not encourage every authoritiy to release whatever exists--and
to release his school records UNLESS he is ashamed of what is in
those.
So as long as he does NOT prove he was eligible to become POTUS,
millions will be suspicious that he wasn't.
All of Africa (especially Kenya) and much of Europe is certain that he
was born in Kenya.
I am certain that he is dishonest. And every day I trust him less. I
would hate to be in the military service with this Commander-in-Chief.
I know he would sell me out in about 2 seconds.
Larry
bkn...@conramp.net
Didn't watch the videos huh Bert?
You're a master of the non-sequitur.
Howard Brazee
<la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>The Obama birth thing will NOT go away because neither the White House
>nor the DNC has made a serious effort to prove that Obama was born in
>Hawaii--with a physician signed birth certificate. All but wildly
>partisan nutcases realize that there can be no logical reason Obama
>would not encourage every authoritiy to release whatever exists--and
>to release his school records UNLESS he is ashamed of what is in
>those.
Why in the world would Obama want the birth thing to go away? As
long as there are people making that the issue, moderates will believe
the right is a bunch of nuts. (Or they can call Obama an
ultra-liberal which does the same thing).
>I am certain that he is dishonest. And every day I trust him less. I
>would hate to be in the military service with this Commander-in-Chief.
>I know he would sell me out in about 2 seconds.
Follow the money. He has the same bosses as GWB had, which is why he
has the same policies. He already has sold out the country, but I
expect him to stay the course with Big Money.
--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
- James Madison
Larry Whitaker
wrote:
>On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 15:44:30 -0700, Larry Whitaker
><la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>
>>The Obama birth thing will NOT go away because neither the White House
>>nor the DNC has made a serious effort to prove that Obama was born in
>>Hawaii--with a physician signed birth certificate. All but wildly
>>partisan nutcases realize that there can be no logical reason Obama
>>would not encourage every authoritiy to release whatever exists--and
>>to release his school records UNLESS he is ashamed of what is in
>>those.
>
>Why in the world would Obama want the birth thing to go away? As
>long as there are people making that the issue, moderates will believe
>the right is a bunch of nuts. (Or they can call Obama an
>ultra-liberal which does the same thing).
>
>
>>I am certain that he is dishonest. And every day I trust him less. I
>>would hate to be in the military service with this Commander-in-Chief.
>>I know he would sell me out in about 2 seconds.
>
>Follow the money. He has the same bosses as GWB had, which is why he
>has the same policies. He already has sold out the country, but I
>expect him to stay the course with Big Money.
Gotta be a miserable place in a world that cynical, Howard.
I believe GW Bush AND his father are honest men who did their best for
this country-- and both sacrificed great personal wealth to serve as
President and head of the CIA, etc.. I personally know Jim Baker and
several others who were on their staff-- and they are as honest and
forthright as is possible. You would like them--and after an hour
with them, you would hand them your wallet, you would trust them. .
Larry
Howard Brazee
It doesn't matter why GWB & Obama have the same policies. Maybe they
truly believe in Corporate welfare and truly believe that it is best
for the country when wealthy benefactors get what they want.
And maybe they are persuasive enough to persuade me to impoverish
myself for their benefit. I wouldn't be alone.
annika1980
>
> I believe GW Bush AND his father are honest men who did their best for
> this country--
Of course you do. That's why you're a fuckin idiot.
Larry Whitaker
wrote:
>On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 17:29:27 -0700, Larry Whitaker
><la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>
>>>Follow the money. He has the same bosses as GWB had, which is why he
>>>has the same policies. He already has sold out the country, but I
>>>expect him to stay the course with Big Money.
>>
>>Gotta be a miserable place in a world that cynical, Howard.
>>
>>I believe GW Bush AND his father are honest men who did their best for
>>this country-- and both sacrificed great personal wealth to serve as
>>President and head of the CIA, etc.. I personally know Jim Baker and
>>several others who were on their staff-- and they are as honest and
>>forthright as is possible. You would like them--and after an hour
>>with them, you would hand them your wallet, you would trust them.
>
>It doesn't matter why GWB & Obama have the same policies. Maybe they
>truly believe in Corporate welfare and truly believe that it is best
>for the country when wealthy benefactors get what they want.
>
>And maybe they are persuasive enough to persuade me to impoverish
>myself for their benefit. I wouldn't be alone.
Howard, America has been prosperous ONLY because our entrepreneurs
were allowed to get personally rich. The men some call "robber
barons" invested their money and pushed the railroads across to
California and they did things like Howard Hughes did-- who got rich
while hiring 25,000 engineers all of whom became upper middle class.
If the US had punished him for being smart and successful with
confiscatory taxes, entrepreneurs like Hughes would have (and should
have) taken his inventions to another country.
So we MUST allow our greatest asset, our great minds with innovative
ideas, to get rich here. Leave them alone!
Larry
bkn...@conramp.net
Welcome back....you're in top form too. LOL
Don Kirkman
<la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 18:50:36 -0600, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 17:29:27 -0700, Larry Whitaker
>><la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>Follow the money. He has the same bosses as GWB had, which is why he
>>>>has the same policies. He already has sold out the country, but I
>>>>expect him to stay the course with Big Money.
>>>
>>>Gotta be a miserable place in a world that cynical, Howard.
>>>
>>>I believe GW Bush AND his father are honest men who did their best for
>>>this country-- and both sacrificed great personal wealth to serve as
>>>President and head of the CIA, etc.. I personally know Jim Baker and
>>>several others who were on their staff-- and they are as honest and
>>>forthright as is possible. You would like them--and after an hour
>>>with them, you would hand them your wallet, you would trust them.
>>
>>It doesn't matter why GWB & Obama have the same policies. Maybe they
>>truly believe in Corporate welfare and truly believe that it is best
>>for the country when wealthy benefactors get what they want.
>>
>>And maybe they are persuasive enough to persuade me to impoverish
>>myself for their benefit. I wouldn't be alone.
>
>Howard, America has been prosperous ONLY because our entrepreneurs
>were allowed to get personally rich. The men some call "robber
>barons" invested their money and pushed the railroads across to
>California
With the help of federal land grants, (2.8 million acres to Burlington
in 1850, when that was still worth a lot of money,
[http://www.landgrant.org/history.html] and State and Federal land
grants to fund railroads totaled about 170 million acres of government
funding.
> and they did things like Howard Hughes did-- who got rich
>while hiring 25,000 engineers all of whom became upper middle class.
>If the US had punished him for being smart and successful with
>confiscatory taxes, entrepreneurs like Hughes would have (and should
>have) taken his inventions to another country.
Of course Hughes made a great deal of his money in oil, movies,
aircraft development, airlines (TWA), casinos, and movies, so his
world wasn't only engineers.
>So we MUST allow our greatest asset, our great minds with innovative
>ideas, to get rich here. Leave them alone!
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
BAR
@charter.net says...
The purpose of government is to serve the people. Not the other way
around. Did the people benefit from having railroad criss-crossing the
country?
> > and they did things like Howard Hughes did-- who got rich
> >while hiring 25,000 engineers all of whom became upper middle class.
> >If the US had punished him for being smart and successful with
> >confiscatory taxes, entrepreneurs like Hughes would have (and should
> >have) taken his inventions to another country.
>
> Of course Hughes made a great deal of his money in oil, movies,
> aircraft development, airlines (TWA), casinos, and movies, so his
> world wasn't only engineers.
You Don Kirkman could have made as much money as Howard Hughes if only
you had been as smart as him and had the vision and leadership skills
that he had. Sadly, you were an government account, you neither produce
or created all you did was consume.
Horva...@net.net
crap:
>> With the help of federal land grants, (2.8 million acres to Burlington
>> in 1850, when that was still worth a lot of money,
>> [http://www.landgrant.org/history.html] and State and Federal land
>> grants to fund railroads totaled about 170 million acres of government
>> funding.
>
>The purpose of government is to serve the people. Not the other way
>around. Did the people benefit from having railroad criss-crossing the
>country?
You are correct of course. But this brings up another question. Why
does the government own property anyway? Shouldn't all public land be
used by the public? It should be sold or leased or used for parks,
golf courses, nature preserves, timber, mining etc. all for the public
good.
Selling off land or giving it away is the best thing to do because now
the states can tax it.
Vote for Palin-Brown in 2012 and repeal the nightmares.
John B.
Welcome back.
John B.
Most public land is already used for exactly those purposes. National
forests, wildlife refuges and BLM land are open to mining, logging,
oil and gas extraction, recreational use, etc.
Horva...@net.net
<john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
>>
>> You are correct of course. �But this brings up another question. �Why
>> does the government own property anyway? �Shouldn't all public land be
>> used by the public? �It should be sold or leased or used for parks,
>> golf courses, nature preserves, timber, mining etc. all for the public
>> good.
>>
>> Selling off land or giving it away is the best thing to do because now
>> the states can tax it.
>>
>
>Most public land is already used for exactly those purposes. National
>forests, wildlife refuges and BLM land are open to mining, logging,
>oil and gas extraction, recreational use, etc.
You said, "most," public land. What about the rest?
Vote for Palin-Brown in 2012. Repeal the nightmares.
MNMikew
<bkn...@conramp.net> wrote in message
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> This hasn't been discussed here. Yeah, its the Daily News but the
> video clips are there.
>
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/03/31/2011-03-31_bill_oreilly_fox_news_host_rips_presidential_wannabe_donald_trump_over_obama_bir.html
>
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/04/04/2011-04-04_glenn_beck_donald_trump_making_me_a_little_uncomfortable_with_birther_remarks_ab.html
>
little birther in him.
MNMikew
"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydp...@mac.com> wrote in message
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MNMikew
"BAR" <sc...@you.com> wrote in message
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Perhaps. But in this case, O'Reilly is right.
Moderate
I need to do a tally of all the lies and campaign promises Obama has
broken. He broke another one this week. Hard to keep up.
bkn...@conramp.net
wrote:
>i
He says that he's directly opposed to the birthers, but that it
wouldn't hurt for Obama to end their crap. The Obama camp says that
they just are ignoring them.
Incidentally, there are other conservatives who have distanced
themselves from the birthers. Michelle Malkin, Michael Medved, Steve
Sailer, and even Ann Coulter who called the birthers a " a few
cranks".
Horva...@net.net
crap:
>I need to do a tally of all the lies and campaign promises Obama has
>broken. He broke another one this week. Hard to keep up.
It's easier to keep a tally of the ones he kept.
Vote for Palin-Brown and repeal the nightmares.
Howard Brazee
>The purpose of government is to serve the people. Not the other way
>around. Did the people benefit from having railroad criss-crossing the
>country?
The government gets rich and powerful when the taxpayers have money.
Historically, this has worked best when there are good jobs for the
majority. (The wealthy can't pay for the government by themselves,
and the wealthy are able to migrate money off-shore - the tax base has
to be based upon a large, productive middle-class).
There is some disagreement on what policies are best to achieve this.
It makes sense that we filter what benefits ourselves to being good
for our country as well. So those making investments overvalue how
well those investments help increase wealth, those growing crops
overvalue growing crops, those on assembly lines overvalue assembly
line work, and those in small businesses overvalue small businesses.
It's very hard to examine everything objectively.
Historically, trends that have led to increased middle class taxpayer
wealth have been fought against.
What bothers me much more is those who prefer finding scapegoats to
blame for the problems of the country or of their personal issues. It
doesn't help the country when people play the blame game. In fact,
it's very dangerous, and people who look for scapegoats can be easily
manipulated.
Moderate
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 08:13:05 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>
>> The purpose of government is to serve the people. Not the other way
>> around. Did the people benefit from having railroad criss-crossing the
>> country?
>
> The government gets rich and powerful when the taxpayers have money.
> Historically, this has worked best when there are good jobs for the
> majority. (The wealthy can't pay for the government by themselves,
> and the wealthy are able to migrate money off-shore - the tax base has
> to be based upon a large, productive middle-class).
>
> There is some disagreement on what policies are best to achieve this.
> It makes sense that we filter what benefits ourselves to being good
> for our country as well. So those making investments overvalue how
> well those investments help increase wealth, those growing crops
> overvalue growing crops, those on assembly lines overvalue assembly
> line work, and those in small businesses overvalue small businesses.
> It's very hard to examine everything objectively.
>
> Historically, trends that have led to increased middle class taxpayer
> wealth have been fought against.
>
> What bothers me much more is those who prefer finding scapegoats to
> blame for the problems of the country or of their personal issues. It
> doesn't help the country when people play the blame game. In fact,
> it's very dangerous, and people who look for scapegoats can be easily
> manipulated.
Your conspiracy theories are inane.
Larry Whitaker
wrote:
My point was that our greatest asset is that quite of few of the
world's entrepreneurs have started their business here. They want to
live here. Intel is a good example-- an Indian man comes to America,
gets his PhD and instead of going back to India or to Germany or
another country, he decides to stay here and start a company. How
many great jobs were created as a result?
We need to stop chasing them away with confiscatory taxes and punitive
regulations.
Larry
Larry Whitaker
wrote:
Trump remembers the Monica mess. The birther pattern may follow
that. Drudge and others hammered about Monica from the shadows, far
from the mainstream press, for months and months. The media who loved
Clinton was desperate to ignore it. There was no Fox News. But
eventually the story got into the prime time news, the NY Times and
Washington Post, etc. started printing articles about it, and then
because the mainstream media were afraid to be scooped, the story
exploded. Clinton screwed up by giving false testimony to a federal
judge, and he was impeached. Obama will similarly panic and screw
up--and the media will turn on him because the juicy story of his
illigitimacy will sell newspapers and bring viewers to their channel.
Mark my words.
Larry
Howard Brazee
Another one of my personal dislikes is conspiracy theories. (I'm a
big believer in The Peter Principle here).
What are my conspiracy theories, and who is running the conspiracies?
Don Kirkman
Apparently you missed the point about the robber barons investing
*their* money. They obviously invested a great deal of the
government's money as well, so their getting rich was not totally from
the sweat of their own brows or the investment of their own money.
>> > and they did things like Howard Hughes did-- who got rich
>> >while hiring 25,000 engineers all of whom became upper middle class.
>> >If the US had punished him for being smart and successful with
>> >confiscatory taxes, entrepreneurs like Hughes would have (and should
>> >have) taken his inventions to another country.
>> Of course Hughes made a great deal of his money in oil, movies,
>> aircraft development, airlines (TWA), casinos, and movies, so his
>> world wasn't only engineers.
>
>You Don Kirkman could have made as much money as Howard Hughes if only
>you had been as smart as him and had the vision and leadership skills
>that he had. Sadly, you were an government account, you neither produce
>or created all you did was consume.
How come you never reached Hughes' level? What have you produced or
created? As far as the personal attack, it seems to be par for the
course [golf reference :-)].
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Larry Whitaker
wrote:
>On 05 Apr 2011 15:51:38 GMT, Moderate <nos...@nomail.com> wrote:
Hey Howard, a secret cabal of people is secretly planning to do things
without telling everyone. Shhhh, its a secret plan.
Larry
Larry Whitaker
wrote:
>On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 08:13:05 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
I have 5 patents and have successful operated 3 companies based on
those. I took quite a few financial risks, quit a good job to work
exclusively on one invention for over a year.
I was not fortunate to have something like the world's best drill bit
(the basis for Hughes Tool company). But if I had something that
good when I was younger, I would have risked everything to exploit
it-- like Howard H. and his father did. They rolled the dice. If it
had failed they would have been broke. They would NOT have just stuck
with their day job like about 99% here would have.
Those who became wealthy were nearly always risk-takers. They rolled
the dice and they did whatever was necessary to make it work. Quite
often they lost their homes and families along the way as they worked
80 hours weeks.
And we are VERY LUCKY that they lived in America.
Larry
BAR
nomai...@news.suddenlink.net>, nos...@nomail.com says...
It is easier to count the ones he has kept. All you need is one hand,
you could even use a hand with a mitten on it.
BAR
@charter.net says...
> >> With the help of federal land grants, (2.8 million acres to Burlington
> >> in 1850, when that was still worth a lot of money,
> >> [http://www.landgrant.org/history.html] and State and Federal land
> >> grants to fund railroads totaled about 170 million acres of government
> >> funding.
> >
> >The purpose of government is to serve the people. Not the other way
> >around. Did the people benefit from having railroad criss-crossing the
> >country?
>
> Apparently you missed the point about the robber barons investing
> *their* money. They obviously invested a great deal of the
> government's money as well, so their getting rich was not totally from
> the sweat of their own brows or the investment of their own money.
The government invested quite a bit of the people's money. It is telling
that you believe it is the government's money.
The government used the money it obtained through taxes and fees to help
build a system of mass transportation. Where mass means mass and not
people. So that the people could move goods throughout the country
quickly and easily. The added benefit was that these goods could be
quickly moved to ports for foreign shipment.
> >> > and they did things like Howard Hughes did-- who got rich
> >> >while hiring 25,000 engineers all of whom became upper middle class.
> >> >If the US had punished him for being smart and successful with
> >> >confiscatory taxes, entrepreneurs like Hughes would have (and should
> >> >have) taken his inventions to another country.
>
> >> Of course Hughes made a great deal of his money in oil, movies,
> >> aircraft development, airlines (TWA), casinos, and movies, so his
> >> world wasn't only engineers.
> >
> >You Don Kirkman could have made as much money as Howard Hughes if only
> >you had been as smart as him and had the vision and leadership skills
> >that he had. Sadly, you were an government account, you neither produce
> >or created all you did was consume.
>
> How come you never reached Hughes' level? What have you produced or
> created? As far as the personal attack, it seems to be par for the
> course [golf reference :-)].
Not my thing. In the military they have commanders and staff officers. I
am a staff officer type. Better too know where your capabilities are and
how best to be of use to an organization.
Go look me up. I have done quite a few notable things in my life.
Don Kirkman
<la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
Larry, my response was tailored for Bert, but I appreciate your input
.
>I have 5 patents and have successful operated 3 companies based on
>those. I took quite a few financial risks, quit a good job to work
>exclusively on one invention for over a year.
>
>I was not fortunate to have something like the world's best drill bit
>(the basis for Hughes Tool company). But if I had something that
>good when I was younger, I would have risked everything to exploit
>it-- like Howard H. and his father did. They rolled the dice. If it
>had failed they would have been broke. They would NOT have just stuck
>with their day job like about 99% here would have.
>Those who became wealthy were nearly always risk-takers. They rolled
>the dice and they did whatever was necessary to make it work. Quite
>often they lost their homes and families along the way as they worked
>80 hours weeks.
All basically true.
>And we are VERY LUCKY that they lived in America.
And they are very lucky they lived in America.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Don Kirkman
>In article <gilmp6drgtv4ajhmb...@4ax.com>, donsno2
>@charter.net says...
>> >> With the help of federal land grants, (2.8 million acres to Burlington
>> >> in 1850, when that was still worth a lot of money,
>> >> [http://www.landgrant.org/history.html] and State and Federal land
>> >> grants to fund railroads totaled about 170 million acres of government
>> >> funding.
>> >The purpose of government is to serve the people. Not the other way
>> >around. Did the people benefit from having railroad criss-crossing the
>> >country?
>> Apparently you missed the point about the robber barons investing
>> *their* money. They obviously invested a great deal of the
>> government's money as well, so their getting rich was not totally from
>> the sweat of their own brows or the investment of their own money.
>The government invested quite a bit of the people's money. It is telling
>that you believe it is the government's money.
To quibble a bit, what the railroads got was raw land, much of which
was sold to settlers, investors, and others to produce the money . . .
>The government used the money it obtained through taxes and fees to help
>build a system of mass transportation. Where mass means mass and not
>people. So that the people could move goods throughout the country
>quickly and easily. The added benefit was that these goods could be
>quickly moved to ports for foreign shipment.
. . . so strictly speaking there were no taxes and fees involved. And
the towns and industries that grew up with the railroads increased the
tax base for future needs.
>> >> > and they did things like Howard Hughes did-- who got rich
>> >> >while hiring 25,000 engineers all of whom became upper middle class.
>> >> >If the US had punished him for being smart and successful with
>> >> >confiscatory taxes, entrepreneurs like Hughes would have (and should
>> >> >have) taken his inventions to another country.
>> >> Of course Hughes made a great deal of his money in oil, movies,
>> >> aircraft development, airlines (TWA), casinos, and movies, so his
>> >> world wasn't only engineers.
>> >You Don Kirkman could have made as much money as Howard Hughes if only
>> >you had been as smart as him and had the vision and leadership skills
>> >that he had. Sadly, you were an government account, you neither produce
>> >or created all you did was consume.
>> How come you never reached Hughes' level? What have you produced or
>> created? As far as the personal attack, it seems to be par for the
>> course [golf reference :-)].
>Not my thing. In the military they have commanders and staff officers. I
>am a staff officer type. Better too know where your capabilities are and
>how best to be of use to an organization.
So you were also a government employee, it seems. What do commanders
and staff officers produce or create? ISTM a staff officer is pretty
equivalent to a middle manager in other parts of the government cadre.
>Go look me up. I have done quite a few notable things in my life.
Most of us have done quite a few notable things in our lives; not all
of it is producing or creating things, as both of us exemplify. :-)
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
BAR
@charter.net says...
> >> How come you never reached Hughes' level? What have you produced or
> >> created? As far as the personal attack, it seems to be par for the
> >> course [golf reference :-)].
>
> >Not my thing. In the military they have commanders and staff officers. I
> >am a staff officer type. Better too know where your capabilities are and
> >how best to be of use to an organization.
>
> So you were also a government employee, it seems. What do commanders
> and staff officers produce or create? ISTM a staff officer is pretty
> equivalent to a middle manager in other parts of the government cadre.
> >Go look me up. I have done quite a few notable things in my life.
I left the government when I was 19, after working there for three years
as GS'er. I also served in the USMCR.
What I found in both organizations was that advancement and promotion
was based upon time in grade and not merit. I chose a career in the
civilian world and I steered clear of government contracting. I have
been quite successful in my chosen field.
William Clark
Larry Whitaker <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
But not "successful" mastered English yet, it would appear.
Alan Baker
Larry Whitaker <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 17:23:58 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> <lloydp...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <32gkp6l25aihjpijr...@4ax.com>,
> > bkn...@conramp.net wrote:
> >
> >> This hasn't been discussed here. Yeah, its the Daily News but the
> >> video clips are there.
> >>
> >> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/03/31/2011-03-31_bill_oreilly
> >> _fo
> >> x_news_host_rips_presidential_wannabe_donald_trump_over_obama_bir.html
> >>
> >> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/04/04/2011-04-04_glenn_beck_d
> >> ona
> >> ld_trump_making_me_a_little_uncomfortable_with_birther_remarks_ab.html
> >>
> >Looks bad for Trump if even the conservative lapdog yakkers aren't
> >enamored of him and see him for the blowhard he is!
>
> Nearly every talking head is afraid of being ridiculed on this issue.
> ALL of them aspire to be the next mainstream media anchor earning $10+
> million.
>
> This issue is starting exactly like the Clinton-Lowinski thing did.
> The mainstream press wouldn't touch it. Then slowly the cable
> channels and talk radio--and especially Drudge just kept repeating
> it--and finally Dan Rather, et. al. had to pick it up. From there it
> went to impeachment.
>
> The Obama birth thing will NOT go away because neither the White House
> nor the DNC has made a serious effort to prove that Obama was born in
> Hawaii--with a physician signed birth certificate. All but wildly
> partisan nutcases realize that there can be no logical reason Obama
> would not encourage every authoritiy to release whatever exists--and
> to release his school records UNLESS he is ashamed of what is in
> those.
>
> So as long as he does NOT prove he was eligible to become POTUS,
> millions will be suspicious that he wasn't.
>
> All of Africa (especially Kenya) and much of Europe is certain that he
> was born in Kenya.
>
> I am certain that he is dishonest. And every day I trust him less. I
> would hate to be in the military service with this Commander-in-Chief.
> I know he would sell me out in about 2 seconds.
>
> Larry
LOL
So much for support the president because he's the president, huh Larry?
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
Alan Baker
Larry Whitaker <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
Pardon me, but: bull.
What have you patented and what successful companies did you operate
based on those patents?
Moderate
> was based upon time in grade and not merit. I chose a career in the
> civilian world and I steered clear of government contracting. I have
> been quite successful in my chosen field.
I received two meritorious promotions in the Marines.
Moderate
Go find out for yourself. You know how to do a patent search don't you?
BAR
nomai...@news.suddenlink.net>, nos...@nomail.com says...
When you enter a unit reserve unit with about 12 other PFCs in the same
MOS and your section OICs find out you are making as much or more money
than they are in the civilian world you are not one of their favorites.
Also, the section was full of NCOs and SNCOs who were enjoying a weekend
of drinking and chasing skirts in Virginia Beach.
BAR
nomai...@news.suddenlink.net>, nos...@nomail.com says...
Speaks volumes about Baker and the liberal crowd. They can find out if
Larry is telling the truth or lying rather quickly. However, if they
actually did the search then they couldn't call him a liar anymore.
MNMikew
"Moderate" <nos...@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:1979298384323779687.0...@news.suddenlink.net...
No, he probably does not.
Larry Whitaker
So you're saying Al Gore had a terrible time as an enlisted man in the
Army after the others soldiers learned who his father was? Or was he
carefully kept away from the other soldiers and required only to walk
around with a camera?
Larry
BAR
He probably can't figure out how to spell Larry's last name.
BAR
la...@pivotforpower.com says...
There are some officers who are frag candidates. Al Gore is one and I
would venture to say that you, Larry, would have been one too.
Alan Baker
Larry Whitaker
He may have learned that such searches would be traceable-- and add to
a pattern of behavior......
Larry
Larry Whitaker
Seldom does anyone frag an officer in a submarine, ha. But maybe
Alan would have-- assuming he could get in any country's military
service. I doubt that.
Larry
Alan Baker
Larry Whitaker <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 18:34:10 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <903aec...@mid.individual.net>, MNMi...@aol.com says...
> >>
> >> "Moderate" <nos...@nomail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1979298384323779687.0...@news.suddenlink.net...
> >> > Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
> >> >> In article <6spmp6h7jpe15loog...@4ax.com>,
> >> >> Larry Whitaker <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I have 5 patents and have successful operated 3 companies based on
> >> >>> those. I took quite a few financial risks, quit a good job to work
> >> >>> exclusively on one invention for over a year.
> >> >>
> >> >> Pardon me, but: bull.
> >> >>
> >> >> What have you patented and what successful companies did you operate
> >> >> based on those patents?
> >> >
> >> > Go find out for yourself. You know how to do a patent search don't you?
> >>
> >> No, he probably does not.
> >
> >He probably can't figure out how to spell Larry's last name.
>
> He may have learned that such searches would be traceable-- and add to
> a pattern of behavior......
LOL!
Oh that's a good one, Larry.
BTW: a quick search at uspto.gov turns up only one patent where the
inventor was "Lawrence D. Whitaker"... ...and he doesn't live in SoCal.
Larry Whitaker
wrote:
>In article <MPG.2806b469b...@news.giganews.com>,
> BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <903aec...@mid.individual.net>, MNMi...@aol.com says...
>> >
>> > "Moderate" <nos...@nomail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1979298384323779687.0...@news.suddenlink.net...
>> > > Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
>> > >> In article <6spmp6h7jpe15loog...@4ax.com>,
>> > >> Larry Whitaker <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I have 5 patents and have successful operated 3 companies based on
>> > >>> those. I took quite a few financial risks, quit a good job to work
>> > >>> exclusively on one invention for over a year.
>> > >>
>> > >> Pardon me, but: bull.
>> > >>
>> > >> What have you patented and what successful companies did you operate
>> > >> based on those patents?
>> > >
>> > > Go find out for yourself. You know how to do a patent search don't you?
>> >
>> > No, he probably does not.
>>
>> He probably can't figure out how to spell Larry's last name.
>
>LOL
Yeah, how many basketball teams were in the "final 4?"
Larry
Alan Baker
Larry Whitaker <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
Actually, I spent a year in the Canadian Forces Reserves, Larry. Queen's
York Rangers, "B" Squadron, Fort York Armories, Toronto, Ontario.
Just another thing for you to be wrong about, hmm?
:-)
William Clark
Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
Pardon me, Larry, but could you point out the relevant details of these
five "patents" here?
http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/search-adv.htm
I don't seem able to find any under your name.
William Clark
<1979298384323779687.0...@news.suddenlink.net>,
Moderate <nos...@nomail.com> wrote:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/search-adv.htm
Came up with nothing. Perhaps a genius like yourself can do better?
William Clark
Larry Whitaker <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 15:39:37 -0700, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <MPG.2806b469b...@news.giganews.com>,
> > BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <903aec...@mid.individual.net>, MNMi...@aol.com says...
> >> >
> >> > "Moderate" <nos...@nomail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:1979298384323779687.0...@news.suddenlink.net...
> >> > > Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
> >> > >> In article <6spmp6h7jpe15loog...@4ax.com>,
> >> > >> Larry Whitaker <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> I have 5 patents and have successful operated 3 companies based on
> >> > >>> those. I took quite a few financial risks, quit a good job to work
> >> > >>> exclusively on one invention for over a year.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Pardon me, but: bull.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> What have you patented and what successful companies did you operate
> >> > >> based on those patents?
> >> > >
> >> > > Go find out for yourself. You know how to do a patent search don't you?
> >> >
> >> > No, he probably does not.
> >>
> >> He probably can't figure out how to spell Larry's last name.
> >
> >LOL
>
> Yeah, how many basketball teams were in the "final 4?"
>
> Larry
OK, Larry, here's the engine, now show us the details of these five
patents.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/search-adv.htm
Go on.
William Clark
BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
Well a search here comes up empty.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/search-adv.htm
Perhaps you would care to re-phrase your last remark.
Moderate
I would not waste my time.
William Clark
<1310712412323829659.7...@news.suddenlink.net>,
Moderate <nos...@nomail.com> wrote:
Translation - I couldn't either.
Gosh, maybe Larry can help out . . .?
Larry Whitaker
I searched Google for one of my first patents, the Ballzooka baseball
pitching machine. I designed that in the basement of our home in
Delaware at the time. It was the first battery-powered design. That
was in 1981, so the patent expired years ago. I sold the trademark to
Hasbro and they used it for a whiffle ball toy. The product was never
very profitable because it could not be sold to stores-- because we
could not get product liability insurance. Notice that all baseball
pitching machines are sold by companies in Oregon and Washington, NOT
California. I remember a commercial Insurance company salesman
saying, "let me get this straight, you plan to throw hard objects at
kids in California?"
I will look up some others. I enjoyed inventing things. I designed
the electronics in the PivotforPower--(originally the RULATE). I also
designed the unique switch that detects the player's heel either up or
down. The device feels the player's heel position and hears the
impact of golf club on the ball. See www.pivotforpower.com I have
several trademarks also.
Some may have been filed in partner's names--
Larry
Larry Whitaker
Romney-- because he has been hammering Obama on the birth certificate.
This morning he confronted the ultra liberal Today Show with his
accusations, saying "3 weeks ago I believed Obama was legitimate--but
today I REALLY DOUBT Obama was born in America!" "Why has Obama
spent $2 MILLION trying to keep this from the public???"
Wow. Call and raise! The boy has guts.
This is NOT GOING AWAY! Now other presidential candidate level people
will be asking the same questions. Soon Obama will be forced to put
up or shut up. And just slink away.
So who would be in the lead if Obama were declared ineligible to run
for reelection?
Larry
William Clark
Larry Whitaker <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
This is getting better and better. If we can have a Trump, Palin,
Bachmann run-off then the GoP is in opposition and out of the White
House for years to come.
Larry Whitaker
yada, yada. I can absolutely guarantee that the democrats are
already salivating for an opportunity to get rid of Obama. The polls
show that he was going to take them down to an even deeper beating
than in 2010. They were going to lose dozens of more seats in the
House, their majority in the Senate--and also the Presidency.
So NOBODY wants Obama to be out of it more than the DNC.
Larry
Alan Baker
Larry Whitaker <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
You designed the plated bull clip... ...and called it a money clip.
<http://www.delmardata.com/dmd_products.htm>
Larry Whitaker
<cl...@nospammatsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>In article <mc5qp655u9fsq4vui...@4ax.com>,
> Larry Whitaker <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>
>> well, well, well! Yesterday Trump came in second in New Hampshire to
>> Romney-- because he has been hammering Obama on the birth certificate.
>> This morning he confronted the ultra liberal Today Show with his
>> accusations, saying "3 weeks ago I believed Obama was legitimate--but
>> today I REALLY DOUBT Obama was born in America!" "Why has Obama
>> spent $2 MILLION trying to keep this from the public???"
>>
>> Wow. Call and raise! The boy has guts.
>>
>> This is NOT GOING AWAY! Now other presidential candidate level people
>> will be asking the same questions. Soon Obama will be forced to put
>> up or shut up. And just slink away.
>>
>> So who would be in the lead if Obama were declared ineligible to run
>> for reelection?
>>
>> Larry
AND, if Obama has indeed usurped the presidency, pulled off the
biggest scam in history (to quote Trump), does it mean that his every
order and every signature was invalid? Wow!
Larry
Larry Whitaker
wrote:
Yep, and just in time for Xmas. We sold thousands of them. Enough to
pay the rent on your "flat" for months.
Larry
Alan Baker
Larry Whitaker <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
Bull.
While you might be idiot enough to take a stationary store bull clip and
call it a "money clip", there aren't enough idiots of your caliber to
spend $39 on something they could by for $0.50
Larry Whitaker
"The grandmother in Kenya is on record saying he was born in Kenya,
Trump said. The hospital has, not only no birth certificate or if they
have it they should produce it, maybe there is something on it, who
knows, but they have no records that he was there. The family is
fighting over which hospital in Hawaii he was born in.
There is not one record, in any hospital in Hawaii, that Barack
Hussein Obama was born there," he added
Larry
Alan Baker
Larry Whitaker <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
What you clipped:
'While you might be idiot enough to take a stationary store bull clip
and call it a "money clip", there aren't enough idiots of your caliber
to spend $39 on something they could buy for $0.50'
Tell us, Larry: was that one of the five patents?
William Clark
Larry Whitaker <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
The guy is as comical as his hairdo.