OT: Trump courts the nazi vote...

[Alan Baker]

"One of the special things about Candidate Trump was that he didn't seem
to use dog whistles that Repubs usually use to invoke the racism of
their followers. Trump just went ahead and called Mexicans and Muslims
the things the dog whistlers might telegraph through mysterious and
deniable slogans.

But now Nominee Trump ran an ad, produced by white supremacists, that
has a Star of David with a typical racist slur of Jews, in a typical
racist context, that's deniable, but still very clearly a call to Nazis
everywhere to say Trump is Our Guy.

In other words, a tried and true Republican Dog Whistle.

Trump wants the Nazi vote"

<http://scripting.com/2016/07/04/1350.html>

[Dene]

Troll bait.

-Greg

[BobbyK]

On Mon, 4 Jul 2016 18:27:43 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gds...@aol.com> wrote:

>Troll bait.
>
>-Greg

Always. But the reason he does so well with it is that his posts
contain something interesting.

Trump has made so many little mistakes like this I'm afraid that he'll
do the same if elected. We can hardly chance that.

[Dene]

Always. But the reason he does so well with it is that his posts
contain something interesting.

Trump has made so many little mistakes like this I'm afraid that he'll
do the same if elected. We can hardly chance that.

------------

Yeah....which is why I will likely vote for Hillary, if I vote at all.

Both my wife and my family are Republicans but not a one are voting for Trump. We are probably typical.

Romney probably said it best when he said Trump doesn't have the temperament to be President.

Sigh....

Greg

[Carbon]

On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 20:19:12 -0700, Dene wrote:
>
>> Always. But the reason he does so well with it is that his posts
>> contain something interesting.
>>
>> Trump has made so many little mistakes like this I'm afraid that he'll
>> do the same if elected. We can hardly chance that.
>

> Yeah....which is why I will likely vote for Hillary, if I vote at all.
>
> Both my wife and my family are Republicans but not a one are voting for
> Trump. We are probably typical.
>
> Romney probably said it best when he said Trump doesn't have the
> temperament to be President.
>
> Sigh....

A lot of reasonable conservatives feel the same way. If Trump survives the
palace coup attempt at the convention, I am honestly wondering how well he
will do among Republicans in the election. Of actually winning, I think he
has very little chance. There just aren't enough kooks to get him there.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

[recscub...@huntzinger.com]

Carbon wrote:

> Dene wrote:
> >
> >
> > Romney probably said it best when he said Trump doesn't have the
> > temperament to be President.
> >
> > Sigh....
>
> A lot of reasonable conservatives feel the same way. If Trump survives the
> palace coup attempt at the convention, I am honestly wondering how well he
> will do among Republicans in the election. Of actually winning, I think he
> has very little chance. There just aren't enough kooks to get him there.
>
> http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

The more that his train wreck goes on, the more I have to wonder. Read
something somewhere recently that suggested that it may be much more
about 'him' (and making money) than providing service to his country,
which reminded me of this:

<http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BOTk3Nzk0NzkwOV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwNDUwNjgwMDE@._V1_CR0,25,266,150_AL_UX477_CR0,0,477,268_AL_.jpg>


or:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/B-B-for-president

-hh

[Michael]

"Dene" wrote in message
news:2eeba153-ac50-4f54...@googlegroups.com...

>Always. But the reason he does so well with it is that his posts
>contain something interesting.

>Trump has made so many little mistakes like this I'm afraid that he'll
>do the same if elected. We can hardly chance that.

------------

>Yeah....which is why I will likely vote for Hillary, if I vote at all.

Good idea. She will take your guns and leave you defenseless, and take your
money and leave you broke. But she will have both.

>Both my wife and my family are Republicans but not a one are voting for
>Trump. We are probably typical.

No, you're not a Republican, you are a Rino.

Actually worse, you allowed that Dumb Little Shit to work you up. The Piece
of Shit doesn't have any skin in the game....he's just trolling for
attention. 108,000 trolls.

If he were dead, the world would be a better place.

[MNMikeW]

BWHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!

[Dene]

On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 4:49:17 AM UTC-7, Michael wrote:
> "Dene" wrote in message
> news:2eeba153-ac50-4f54...@googlegroups.com...
>
> >Always. But the reason he does so well with it is that his posts
> >contain something interesting.
>
> >Trump has made so many little mistakes like this I'm afraid that he'll
> >do the same if elected. We can hardly chance that.
>
> ------------
>
> >Yeah....which is why I will likely vote for Hillary, if I vote at all.
>
>
> Good idea. She will take your guns and leave you defenseless, and take your
> money and leave you broke. But she will have both.

Uh huh.

>
> >Both my wife and my family are Republicans but not a one are voting for
> >Trump. We are probably typical.
>
> No, you're not a Republican, you are a Rino.

I'm an independent who usually votes Republican.

> Actually worse, you allowed that Dumb Little Shit to work you up. The Piece
> of Shit doesn't have any skin in the game....he's just trolling for
> attention. 108,000 trolls.

I responded to Bobby. I haven't read IT's OP, nor do I intend to.

-Greg

[Dene]

Many reasonable conservatives are sick of the direction this country is heading. The PC stupidity. Porous borders. Dumbass trade deals. ACA rate increases. National debt...and in my case, the empty suit in the White House. We/they are not kooks. It's legitimate concern.

-Greg

[MNMikeW]

Hillary = status quo = more of the same = will be 2nd most corrupt admin
ever after Obama.

[John B.]

I don't know what corruption you attribute to Obama, but
your grasp of American history is a little weak. Read something
about Warren G. Harding or Andrew Johnson sometime.

[BobbyK]

On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 11:56:45 -0500, MNMikeW <mnmi...@aol.com> wrote:


>
>Hillary = status quo = more of the same = will be 2nd most corrupt admin
>ever after Obama.

There's a possibility that HRC could make some changes for the better.
No possibility for Trump to do anything worth while. He's a dangerous
joke.

[MNMikeW]

Change? Gee, where have we heard that before?

[recscub...@huntzinger.com]

On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 12:23:42 PM UTC-4, Dene wrote:
> Carbon wrote:

> > Dene wrote:
> > >
> > > Sigh....
> >
> > A lot of reasonable conservatives feel the same way. If Trump

> > survives the palace coup attempt at the convention, ...

>
> Many reasonable conservatives are sick of the direction this
> country is heading. The PC stupidity.

The saying "check your privilege" applies. FYI, "Privilege"
means that you're able to live your life free from consideration
and hyper-awareness of your race, gender or sexuality. In other
words, it is what middle/upperclass white males have taken for
granted for the past two centuries, but others have not.

> Porous borders.

More secure & enforced today than in any time in the country's history.

> Dumbass trade deals.

You'll need to be a bit more specific. Case in point:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Sugar_Program>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farm_Security_and_Rural_Investment_Act_of_2002>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_the_United_States#Tariffs_and_tax_credits>

<http://www.taxpayer.net/media-center/article/4-examples-of-corporate-welfare-in-action>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_of_private_equity_and_hedge_funds>

Point being that there's been a lot of 'deals' that have been
made over the decades, with the only thing that they have in
common is usually that they are favorable to large corporations.

> ACA rate increases.

ACA was known to only be a half-hearted Band-Aid over the more
fundamental problems. In any case, my understanding is that
what ACA has been able to do has been to slow the rate of increases.
In the current political environment, that's about as close to a
success as we're probably to find.

> National debt...

Some of it is appropriate...but let's also call a Spade a
Spade and recognize that we've lacked the political will to
fully apply Keynesian economics since Clinton in the 1990s.

> and in my case, the empty suit in the White House.

Every administration has had strong & weak points; nothing
unique yet there. Similarly, every administration has had
to work with the opposing party, sometimes with and sometimes
without their own party being in the majority in the other
chambers. However, the current climate is much worse than
it has been in recent history in terms of an unwillingness
to compromise, or for that matter, be willing to actually
consider objective facts, which is a very bad sign for our
collective future regardless of who's in charge.

> We/they are not kooks. It's legitimate concern.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of kooks out there which
have been having an influence, primarily in hijacking
good government principles as they've become overrepresented
and enabled due to district Gerrymandering. Elimination of
Gerrymandering would be a positive step forward, and which
has already been done in a few States, where there are some
positive signs emerging. Look it up.

-hh

[MNMikeW]

recscub...@huntzinger.com wrote:

>
> The saying "check your privilege" applies. FYI, "Privilege"
> means that you're able to live your life free from consideration
> and hyper-awareness of your race, gender or sexuality. In other
> words, it is what middle/upperclass white males have taken for
> granted for the past two centuries, but others have not.

"privilege" was concocted by idiotic white liberals to appease their
guilt. These same idiotic white liberals are the ones who concocted safe
spaces and microagressions. Precious little snowflakes.

>
>> Porous borders.
>
> More secure& enforced today than in any time in the country's history.

BWHAHAHAHAHAH!!

>
>
>> ACA rate increases.
>
> ACA was known to only be a half-hearted Band-Aid over the more
> fundamental problems. In any case, my understanding is that
> what ACA has been able to do has been to slow the rate of increases.

It hasn't slowed shit.
>

[Carbon]

No slight intended, seriously. By kook I mean people like immoderate who
actually believe Trump has the ability to fix any of these difficult
problems.

FWIW history will remember Obama as an above average president.

[Carbon]

Mike, be serious. Trump knows nothing other than self-promotion and going
bankrupt. He's a con man. How can you not see that?

Not that it matters. There are millions of Republicans who will not be
voting for him. Some of them have already mentioned that they would prefer
Hillary. This guy is not going to win.

[Carbon]

On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 16:14:39 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> recscub...@huntzinger.com wrote:
>
>>> Porous borders.
>>
>> More secure& enforced today than in any time in the country's history.
>
> BWHAHAHAHAHAH!!

I do enjoy these scholarly responses. You should write professionally.

[recscub...@huntzinger.com]

On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 5:14:40 PM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:

> -hh wrote:
> >
> > The saying "check your privilege" applies. FYI, "Privilege"
> > means that you're able to live your life free from consideration
> > and hyper-awareness of your race, gender or sexuality. In other
> > words, it is what middle/upperclass white males have taken for
> > granted for the past two centuries, but others have not.
>
> "privilege" was concocted by idiotic white liberals to appease their
> guilt. These same idiotic white liberals are the ones who concocted safe
> spaces and microagressions. Precious little snowflakes.

Wrong. There was even a war fought over the "all men are created equal"
Constitutional principle back in the 1860's. Plus there was the 19th Amendment
in the 1920's. And another war, literally, in the 1940's. And the 1965 Voting
Rights act, to mention but just a few. Many "precious snowflakes" died
for speaking out for those who can't ... which is far more than what you've done,
or ever will do with your life.

> >> Porous borders.
> >
> > More secure& enforced today than in any time in the country's history.
>
> BWHAHAHAHAHAH!!

Sounds like you've never heard Obama referred to as "Deporter in Chief".
Nor worked professionally with any of the relevant Agencies to know how
much has changed. Nor even noticed that illegal immigration rates are down.
In fact, expressed as a percentage, the illegal immigration population reached
its peak (3.9%) back under Bush:

<http://immigration.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000844>

And all of those 'nasty' Mexicans? It peaked in 2007 ... again, under Bush:

<http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/19/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/>

Plus all of this is playing it straight with the "illegal" aspect, whereas the
reality of our immigration system has had a long history of racial bias and
quotas. For example, consider the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act>

...and note that it was superseded by the Magnuson Act of 1943, when China
became a US ally during WW2.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson_Act>

...and the USA very **generously** allowed a quota of a whopping 105 people per year.

FYI, it wasn't until 1965:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965>

...that the absolutely most blatant of the preferential treatment of northern &
western Europeans started to decline. Bottom line is that if your genealogy
comes from this region, you're from a PRIVILEGED group even if you personally
were never aware of this ... and doubly so if you're Christian and Male.

> >> ACA rate increases.
> >
> > ACA was known to only be a half-hearted Band-Aid over the more
> > fundamental problems. In any case, my understanding is that
> > what ACA has been able to do has been to slow the rate of increases.
>
> It hasn't slowed shit.

Oops:

"U.S. Health Care Cost Increases at Lowest Rate in Nearly 20 years"

<http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2015/11/12/388800.htm>

Double Oops:

"The rate of increase has slowed in the past decade — from 9.5 percent
in 2002 to 3.9 percent in 2010."

<http://www.aetna.com/health-reform-connection/aetnas-vision/facts-about-costs.html>

Triple Oops:

"Think healthcare costs are soaring? Think again."

"Actually, national health spending grew 3.6% in 2013, the lowest annual
increase since 1960, when the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services
began tracking the statistic, officials said."

<http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/04/news/economy/healthcare-costs/>


Overall, all you're doing, Mike, is revealing to the world just how poorly informed
you are on a broad spectrum of subjects.


-hh

[Alan Baker]

How poorly he CHOOSES to be informed.

The machinations that he must go through to avoid dealing with facts are
mind-boggling.

[Carbon]

> How poorly he CHOOSES to be informed.
>
> The machinations that he must go through to avoid dealing with facts are
> mind-boggling.

These people are not reachable by facts. They're sure they know the
post-fact truth.

There is a yearning for fascism in this country that I just don't
understand.

[recscub...@huntzinger.com]

Carbon wrote:
>
> These people are not reachable by facts. They're sure they
> know the post-fact truth.
>
> There is a yearning for fascism in this country that I just don't
> understand.

Much of it is the product of fear-mongering on people who
have already been marginalized in some fashion (economics, etc)
and convincing them that they're a victim (which isn't too hard)
but then purposefully identifying some third party as the guilty
perpetrator, typically using some historical prejudices as the
hot button, such as religion, racism, etc:

In Nazi Germany, it was the non-Christian Jews, the deviant
homosexuals, and the migrant/criminal Roma's.

In Trump America, it is the 'rapist' Mexicans, Christian-prosecuting gays
and the 'terrorist' Muslims.

The parallels are indeed both scary and saddening (because it preys on the ignorant).


-hh

[MNMikeW]

Carbon wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 12:41:55 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
>> BobbyK wrote:
>>> On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 11:56:45 -0500, MNMikeW<mnmi...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hillary = status quo = more of the same = will be 2nd most corrupt
>>>> admin ever after Obama.
>>>
>>> There's a possibility that HRC could make some changes for the better.
>>> No possibility for Trump to do anything worth while. He's a dangerous
>>> joke.
>>
>> Change? Gee, where have we heard that before?
>
> Mike, be serious. Trump knows nothing other than self-promotion and going
> bankrupt. He's a con man. How can you not see that?

Just like the Clintons you mean. Yet, you cannot seem to see that.

>
> Not that it matters. There are millions of Republicans who will not be
> voting for him. Some of them have already mentioned that they would prefer
> Hillary. This guy is not going to win.

Perhaps not. We shall see. Hillary is damaged goods. And a liar. And
untrustworthy. Not that matters to liberals.

[recscub...@huntzinger.com]

FWIW, here's a pretty good read:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism#Umberto_Eco>

In his 1995 essay "Eternal Fascism", Umberto Eco lists
fourteen general properties of fascist ideology.[12]
He argues that it is not possible to organise these
into a coherent system, but that "it is enough that
one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate
around it". He uses the term "Ur-fascism" as a generic
description of different historical forms of fascism.
Eleven of the fourteen properties are as follows:

"The Cult of Tradition", combining cultural syncretism
with a rejection of modernism.

"The Cult of Action for Action's Sake", which dictates
that action is of value in itself, and should be taken
without intellectual reflection. This, says Eco, is
connected with anti-intellectualism and irrationalism,
and often manifests in attacks on modern culture and science.

"Disagreement Is Treason" – fascism devalues intellectual
discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action.

"Fear of Difference", which fascism seeks to exploit and
exacerbate, often in the form of racism or an appeal
against foreigners and immigrants.

"Appeal to a Frustrated Middle Class", fearing economic
pressure from the demands and aspirations of lower social groups.

"Obsession with a Plot" and the hyping-up of an enemy threat;
This often involves an appeal to xenophobia (such as the German
elite's 'fear'of the 1930s Jewish populace's businesses and
well-doings, see also anti-Semitism) with an identification
of their being an internal security threat: He also cites Pat
Robertson's book The New World Order as a prominent example
of a plot obsession.

"Pacifism is Trafficking with the Enemy" because "Life is
Permanent Warfare" – there must always be an enemy to fight;
Both fascist Germany under Hitler and Italy under Mussolini
worked first to organize and clean up their respective
countries and then build the war machines that they later
intended to and did use, despite Germany being under
restrictions of the Versailles treaty to NOT build a
military force. This principle leads to a fundamental
contradiction within fascism: the incompatibility of
ultimate triumph with perpetual war.

"Contempt for the Weak" – although a fascist society
is elitist, everybody in the society is educated to become
a hero; for example: the 1930s Germans, especially Hitler
labeled Jews inferior humans thus weak as well as the
physically disabled, the mentally retarded and mentally
ill as weak—thus these "weak" or unwanteds were eliminated
(executed) or "exterminated" (the Jews, or even Germans
with disabilities).

"Selective Populism" – the People have a common will,
which is not delegated but directed by a dictator; This
casts doubt upon a democratic institution, because the
leader and government "no longer represent the Voice of
the People".

"Newspeak" – fascism employs and promotes an impoverished
vocabulary in order to limit critical reasoning.

"Non-truths & Lying/Spread of Propaganda" – Umberto Eco
wrote from a modern-day standpoint about Fascism; He did
not study the Fascism of Spain, Italy or Germany where
this style of governing evolved in the 1930s prior to
World War II: Those involved were Francisco Franco,
Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler, and more can be
learned about fascism by reading on these people.



-hh

[MNMikeW]

recscub...@huntzinger.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 5:14:40 PM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
>> -hh wrote:
>>>
>>> The saying "check your privilege" applies. FYI, "Privilege"
>>> means that you're able to live your life free from consideration
>>> and hyper-awareness of your race, gender or sexuality. In other
>>> words, it is what middle/upperclass white males have taken for
>>> granted for the past two centuries, but others have not.
>>
>> "privilege" was concocted by idiotic white liberals to appease their
>> guilt. These same idiotic white liberals are the ones who concocted safe
>> spaces and microagressions. Precious little snowflakes.
>
> Wrong. There was even a war fought over the "all men are created equal"
> Constitutional principle back in the 1860's. Plus there was the 19th Amendment
> in the 1920's. And another war, literally, in the 1940's. And the 1965 Voting
> Rights act, to mention but just a few. Many "precious snowflakes" died
> for speaking out for those who can't ... which is far more than what you've done,
> or ever will do with your life.
>

All which of couse, have nothing to due with the absurd notion of
"privilege". You know nothing about my life but keep running your mouth
cunt jr.

[John B.]

For every lie Hillary has told, Trump has told 100. He's a pathological liar.

[recscub...@huntzinger.com]

On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 10:15:18 AM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
> -hh wrote:
> > MNMikeW wrote:
> >> -hh wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The saying "check your privilege" applies. FYI, "Privilege"
> >>> means that you're able to live your life free from consideration
> >>> and hyper-awareness of your race, gender or sexuality. In other
> >>> words, it is what middle/upperclass white males have taken for
> >>> granted for the past two centuries, but others have not.
> >>
> >> "privilege" was concocted by idiotic white liberals to appease their
> >> guilt. These same idiotic white liberals are the ones who concocted safe
> >> spaces and microagressions. Precious little snowflakes.
> >
> > Wrong. There was even a war fought over the "all men are
> > created equal" Constitutional principle back in the 1860's.
> > Plus there was the 19th Amendment in the 1920's. And another

> > war, literally, in the 1940's. And the 1965 Voting Rights Act,

> > to mention but just a few. Many "precious snowflakes" died
> > for speaking out for those who can't ... which is far more
> > than what you've done, or ever will do with your life.
>
> All which of couse, have nothing to due with the absurd
> notion of "privilege".

News flash for the white guy: privilege isn't a mere concept,
as there have been many, many examples of it as well as many
formal legal decisions by the courts that have concluded that
such actions by the police violate the 4th Amendment.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_while_black>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_profiling>

FYI, it isn't even a new thing:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Negro_Motorist_Green_Book>

> You know nothing about my life but keep running your mouth cunt jr.

By your actions, you've have already revealed your privilege.

If you want to enlighten us more, tick off those statements
which apply to you off of this list:

* I am white.

* I have never been discriminated against because of my skin color.

* I have never been the only person of my race in a room.

* I have never been mocked for my accent.

* I have never been told I am attractive "for my race."

* I have never been a victim of violence because of my race.

* I have never been called a racial slur.

* I have never been told I "sound white."

* A stranger has never asked to touch my hair, or asked if it is real.

* I am heterosexual.

* I have never lied about my sexuality

* I never had to "come out."

* I never doubted my parents' acceptance of my sexuality.

* I have never been called "fag."

* I have never been called "dyke."

* I have never been called a "fairy," or any other derogatory
slur for homosexuals.

* I have never tried to hide my sexuality.

* I am always comfortable with Public Displays of Affection
(PDA) with my partner in public.

* I have never pretended to be "just friends" with my significant other.

*I have never been ostracized by my religion for my sexual orientation.

* I have never been told I would "burn in hell" for my sexual orientation.

* I have never been told that my sexuality is "just a phase."

* I have never been violently threatened because of my sexuality.

* I am a man.

* I feel comfortable in the gender I was born as.

* I still identify as the gender I was born in.

* I have never tried to change my gender.

* I have never been denied an opportunity because of my gender.

* I make more money than my professional counterparts of a different gender.

* I have never felt unsafe because of my gender.

* I have never been catcalled.

* I have never been sexually harassed or assaulted.

* I have never been raped.

* I work in a salaried job.

* My family and I have never lived below the poverty line.

* I don’t have any student loans.

* I have never gone to bed hungry.

* I have never been homeless.

* My parents pay some of my bills.

* My parents pay all of my bills.

* I don't rely on public transportation.

* I buy new clothes at least once a month.

* I have never done my taxes myself.

* I have never felt poor.

* I have never had to worry about making rent.

* I have never worked as a waiter, barista, bartender, or salesperson.

* I have had an unpaid internship.

* I have had multiple unpaid internships.

* I went to summer camp.

* I went to private school.

* I graduated high school.

* I went to an elite college.

* I graduated college.

* My parents paid (at least some of) my tuition.

* I had a car in high school.

* I've never had a roommate.

* I've always had cable.

* I have traveled internationally.

* I travel internationally at least once a year.

* I studied abroad.

* I've never skipped a meal to save money.

* I don’t know what "Sallie Mae" is.

* I spent Spring Breaks abroad.

* I have frequent flier miles.

* My parents are heterosexual.

* My parents are both alive.

* My parents are still married.

* I do not have any physical disabilities.

* I do not have any social disabilities.

* I do not have any learning disabilities.

* I have never had an eating disorder.

* I have never been depressed.

* I have never considered suicide.

* I have never attempted suicide.

* I have never taken medication for my mental health.

* I can afford medication if/when I need it.

* I have never been told I'm overweight or "too skinny."

* I have never felt overweight or underweight or "too skinny."

* I have never been shamed for my body type.

* I consider myself to be physically attractive.

* I can afford a therapist.

* I've used prescription drugs recreationally.

* I have never had an addiction.

* I have never been shamed for my religious beliefs.

* I have never been violently threatened for my religious beliefs.

* I have never been violently attacked for my religious beliefs.

* There is a place of worship for my religion in my town.

* I have never lied about my ethnicity as self-defense.

* I have never lied about my religion as self-defense.

* All my jobs have been accommodating of my religious practices.

* I am not nervous in airport security lines.

* I have never heard this statement: "You have been
randomly selected for secondary passport control."

* I have never been called a terrorist.

* Nobody has ever tried to "save" me for my religious beliefs.

* I have never been cyber-bullied for any of my identities.

* I was not bullied as a child for any of my identities.

* I have never tried to distance myself from any of my identities.

* I have never been self-conscious about any of my identities.

* I have never questioned any of my identities.

* I feel privileged because of the identities I was born with.


After (if) you reply, it will be plugged in here to score:

<https://www.buzzfeed.com/regajha/how-privileged-are-you?utm_term=.aoWgo5vDq#.qa070yXWm>

Scoring on what you've said, you're probably in the 80+/100
points ballpark, which is the 'most privileged' category
for which the above website states:

"You're among the most privileged people in the world.
We don't live in an ideal world, but you happened to be
born into an ideal lot. This is not a bad thing, nor is
it something to be ashamed of. It just means a lot of
other people in the world don't live life with the advantages
you have, and that's something you should always be aware of."

And until you yourself take the test (if ever), the last
part doesn't apply to you:

"Hey, the fact that you took the time and effort to check
your privilege means that you're already trying."


-hh

[MNMikeW]

recscub...@huntzinger.com wrote:

>
> By your actions, you've have already revealed your privilege.
>

Fucking liberals, lol.

[MNMikeW]

John B. wrote:

>>>
>>> Not that it matters. There are millions of Republicans who will not be
>>> voting for him. Some of them have already mentioned that they would prefer
>>> Hillary. This guy is not going to win.
>>
>> Perhaps not. We shall see. Hillary is damaged goods. And a liar. And
>> untrustworthy. Not that matters to liberals.
>
> For every lie Hillary has told, Trump has told 100. He's a pathological liar.

Sure John.

[recscub...@huntzinger.com]

On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 11:29:41 AM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:

> -hh wrote:
> >
> > By your actions, you've have already revealed your privilege.
> >
> Fucking liberals, lol.

Is that all you have to say? Why are we not surprised that
you (once again) just took the lazy way out...and you try to
believe that no one knows anything about you.

BTW, as lame as your retort attempt was, its mere existence
is proof that you read the post and as such, you dodged.
To ever try to claim that you never saw the proof on how
you're wrong (and ignorant) would be a lie on your part.

-hh

--
"So don't just go away mad: go away knowing that you have
been thoroughly beaten and humiliated due to your own shortcomings."

[John B.]

Well. let me give you the latest example. Yesterday, he stated -- not
suggested, not implied -- STATED that Hillary Clinton had bribed
Lorretta Lynch by offering to let he stay on as AG in exchange
for dropping the e-mail investigation.

I can name a lot more if you're interested.

[MNMikeW]

Can you prove she didnt? But of course, that erases all of Hillarys
lies. Even the ones she did under oath. WaPo fact checkers just updated
their previous factcheck from 2 Pinocchios to 4 (whopper status).

[Alan Baker]

On 2016-07-06 10:39 AM, MNMikeW wrote:
> John B. wrote:
>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 11:30:32 AM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
>>> John B. wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not that it matters. There are millions of Republicans who will
>>>>>> not be
>>>>>> voting for him. Some of them have already mentioned that they
>>>>>> would prefer
>>>>>> Hillary. This guy is not going to win.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps not. We shall see. Hillary is damaged goods. And a liar. And
>>>>> untrustworthy. Not that matters to liberals.
>>>>
>>>> For every lie Hillary has told, Trump has told 100. He's a
>>>> pathological liar.
>>>
>>> Sure John.
>>
>> Well. let me give you the latest example. Yesterday, he stated -- not
>> suggested, not implied -- STATED that Hillary Clinton had bribed
>> Lorretta Lynch by offering to let he stay on as AG in exchange
>> for dropping the e-mail investigation.
>>
>> I can name a lot more if you're interested.
>
> Can you prove she didnt?

Do you understand that for Trump to be able to make that statement and
not be lying HE HAS TO HAVE PROOF?

> But of course, that erases all of Hillarys
> lies. Even the ones she did under oath. WaPo fact checkers just updated
> their previous factcheck from 2 Pinocchios to 4 (whopper status).

Who you conveniently don't believe when it suits you...

[John B.]

Of course I can't. It's impossible to prove a negative. But to make
a statement of fact with no knowledge that it's true is the very
definition of a lie. Pretty much everything that comes out of his
mouth is horseshit.

[MNMikeW]

Just like ol Hillary. If she's not lying, she's pandering. And bribing
Lynch is EXACTLY something a Clinton would do.

[Alan Baker]

You wanting to believe something is true doesn't make an absolute
statement made without proof into anything other than a LIE, Mikey.

[John B.]

Based on what?

[Carbon]

On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 08:59:10 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> Carbon wrote:
>> On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 12:41:55 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
>>> BobbyK wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 11:56:45 -0500, MNMikeW<mnmi...@aol.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hillary = status quo = more of the same = will be 2nd most corrupt
>>>>> admin ever after Obama.
>>>>
>>>> There's a possibility that HRC could make some changes for the
>>>> better. No possibility for Trump to do anything worth while. He's a
>>>> dangerous joke.
>>>
>>> Change? Gee, where have we heard that before?
>>
>> Mike, be serious. Trump knows nothing other than self-promotion and
>> going bankrupt. He's a con man. How can you not see that?
>
> Just like the Clintons you mean. Yet, you cannot seem to see that.

Do you honestly think Trump is more honest than Hillary? I'm serious.

[Carbon]

Hold up. Do you even know what the term "evidence" means?

[MNMikeW]

Yes. Honest and Hillary should never be used in the same sentence.

[John B.]

Hillary Clinton had investigators crawling all over her like ants
for the last 25 years. And here's what they've come up with: nothing.
Meanwhile, Trump is being sued by former students of Trump University
for fraud. He lied about his role in the "school," which wasn't a school
at all. He has been found to underpay or stiff dozens of contractors
who had worked for him. He misrepresented himself to a reporter by
pretending to be his press aide. He lied when he said Hillary had bribed
Loretta Lynch. I could go on all day.

But sure, Trump is much more honest and trustworthy than Hillary.

[Alan Baker]

You're clearly delusional.

Trump University.

[Carbon]

You are completely deluded.

Hillary's just a politician. Trump is a narcissist grifter moron.

[Carbon]

I know monsters like Trump need to be taken seriously when they're running
for office, especially since there are millions of suckers like Mikey here
willing to vote for him. But I do believe a majority of voters are going
to see the scam for what it is. If he survives the convention I believe he
will lose big in November.

[MNMikeW]

Carbon wrote:

>>>>
>>>> Just like the Clintons you mean. Yet, you cannot seem to see that.
>>>
>>> Do you honestly think Trump is more honest than Hillary? I'm serious.
>>
>> Yes. Honest and Hillary should never be used in the same sentence.
>
> You are completely deluded.
>
> Hillary's just a politician. Trump is a narcissist grifter moron.

One of the most crooked politicians since Nixon.

[MNMikeW]

You are stuck with voting for trash no matter who you vote for.

[Alan Baker]

He certainly is...

[John B.]

Except she hasn't been convicted of or even charged with a crime.

[MNMikeW]

Funny how that works for them all the time isnt it.

[Alan Baker]

Mike: this has been a political smoke show from day one.

The Republicans have admitted on at least two occasions that the whole
Benghazi committee was part of a political strategy to "fight and win".

[recscub...@huntzinger.com]

On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 2:18:12 PM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
> John B. wrote:

> > MNMikeW wrote:
> >> Carbon wrote:
> >>>>>> [...]

> >>>>>> Just like the Clintons you mean. Yet, you cannot seem to see that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do you honestly think Trump is more honest than Hillary? I'm serious.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes. Honest and Hillary should never be used in the same sentence.
> >>>
> >>> You are completely deluded.
> >>>
> >>> Hillary's just a politician. Trump is a narcissist grifter moron.
> >>
> >> One of the most crooked politicians since Nixon.
> >
> > Except she hasn't been convicted of or even charged with a crime.
>
> Funny how that works for them all the time isnt it.

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g>

They've not tried to weigh a duck yet.

-hh

[MNMikeW]

Liar.

[Alan Baker]

No. I'm telling the absolute truth:

McCarthy while extolling his virtues used the Benghazi committee as an
explicit example of how he would help the Republicans "fight and win".

[John B.]

On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 2:18:12 PM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:

If by "all of them" you mean Democrats, I can name 10 that have been convicted
of federal crimes in the last 10 yrs. In fact, I would bet that more Dem public
office-holders have been sent to jail than Republicans.

[MNMikeW]

I meant Clintons.

[John B.]

I seem to remember Bill Clinton being investigated, impeached and disbarred for haing sex with an intern and lying about it.

[Alan Baker]

Which was the end of another witchhunt that eventually turned up that he
told one lie about his sex life.

[Dene]

Under oath, aka perjury, which I'm sure is perfectly fine with your "ethics."

-Greg

[Carbon]

They also got caught admitting the purpose of the voter ID laws was to
prevent likely Democrat voters from voting.

[Alan Baker]

Nope.

But why were they asking in the first place?

[Dene]

Tell us.

-Greg

[Alan Baker]

Nope.

Once again, you love the double-standard.

I answered your question, and you dodge mine.

[Dene]

Ah...the narcissism, self absorption manifests ITself once again.
The troll asks the question and feels entitled to an answer.

-Greg

[Alan Baker]

Nope.

> The troll asks the question and feels entitled to an answer.

Nope. I'm simply noting your double standard.

:-)