Hint:
Some of the course ratings are as high as 76.5 with a slope of 141. He shot
63 on that one for an differential of -10.8 (BMW Champ Bellerieve CC, St.
Louis, MO).
You'll want to recalculate that one - the '07 BMW Champ was played at Cog
Hill. The '08 event will be played at Bellerieve.
Either way, I'm betting TW is scratch.
DJJ
I'd have to believe he is way better than scratch...
I'll bet he doesn't have to worry much about ESC adjustments
either. :-) How many triples+ did Tiger have last year?
We have to guess?
+7
I'll post his actual index tomorrow.
Tournament Course Date Score Course Rating Slope Diff
BMW Championship Cog Hill Golf and Country Club, Drubsdread Course
9/7/2007 63 75.4 142 -9.9
The Tour Championship East Lake Golf Club, Atlanta, GA 9/26/2007 63
74.9 139 -9.7
Buick Invitational Torrey Pines (South Course) 1/26/2008 66 78.1
143 -9.6
The Tour Championship East Lake Golf Club, Atlanta, GA 9/27/2007 64
74.9 139 -8.9
The Tour Championship East Lake Golf Club, Atlanta, GA 9/25/2007 64
74.9 139 -8.9
Buick Invitational Torrey Pines (South Course) 1/24/2008 67 78.1
143 -8.8
BMW Championship Cog Hill Golf and Country Club, Drubsdread Course
9/6/2007 65 75.4 142 -8.3
Dubai Desert Classic Emirates GC 2/3/2008 65 74 135 -7.5
Dubai Desert Classic Emirates GC 1/31/2008 65 74 135 -7.5
The Tour Championship East Lake Golf Club, Atlanta, GA 9/28/2007 66
74.9 139 -7.2
Buick Invitational Torrey Pines (North Course) 1/25/2008 65 73.2
130 -7.1
BMW Championship Cog Hill Golf and Country Club, Drubsdread Course
9/5/2007 67 75.4 142 -6.7
BMW Championship Cog Hill Golf and Country Club, Drubsdread Course
9/4/2007 67 75.4 142 -6.7
Buick Invitational Torrey Pines (South Course) 1/27/2008 71 78.1
143 -5.6
Deutsche Bank Championship TPC Boston · Norton, Mass 9/1/2007 67 73.4
140 -5.2
Deutsche Bank Championship TPC Boston · Norton, Mass 8/31/2007 67 73.4
140 -5.2
Bay Hill Invitational Bay Hill Club 3/14/2008 68 74.1 136 -5.1
Bay Hill Invitational Bay Hill Club 3/13/2008 70 74.1 136 -3.4
Dubai Desert Classic Emirates GC 2/1/2008 71 74 135 -2.5
Dubai Desert Classic Emirates GC 2/2/2008 73 74 135 -0.8
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> I'd have to believe he is way better than scratch...- Hide quoted text -
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Everyone on tour is better than scratch, you idiot. Most pros are
around 4 strokes better, tiggy probably around 8.
I'd guess around +8?
>I'd have to believe he is way better than scratch...
I think that was a joke.
Just want to make 2 comments. I guessed +8 because I remember years ago
reading that Curtis Strange at his prime (back to back US Opens) was playing
at about +6. Tiger has to be better.
+8 is just silly good. Things get tough at this level. As your handicap
drops, it gets tougher and tougher. For example, the drop from 20 to 10 is
way easier than the drop from 5 to scratch. The drop from scratch to +2 is
crazy hard. So while +8 might not seem outrageously better than +6, it is.
> Just want to make 2 comments. I guessed +8 because I remember years ago
> reading that Curtis Strange at his prime (back to back US Opens) was playing
> at about +6. Tiger has to be better.
>
> +8 is just silly good. Things get tough at this level. As your handicap
> drops, it gets tougher and tougher. For example, the drop from 20 to 10 is
> way easier than the drop from 5 to scratch. The drop from scratch to +2 is
> crazy hard. So while +8 might not seem outrageously better than +6, it is.
It probably varies - but looking at the top 10 of his last 20 rounds, I
will guess +9.
No $H!+... I know that. :)
No fair - you put more work into this than I did :-)
Here's a twenty game stretch in '06-'07 that's pretty interesting.
Used | Date | Score | CR/Slope | Diff. | Tournament
—- —- —– ——– —– ———-
* | 01/28/07 | 66 | 78.1/143 | -9.6 | Buick Invitational
* | 01/27/07 | 69 | 78.1/143 | -7.2 | Buick Invitational
| 01/26/07 | 72 | 78.1/143 | -4.8 | Buick Invitational
| 01/25/07 | 66 | 78.1/143 | -6.3 | Buick Invitational
* | 09/04/06 | 63 | 74.8/143 | -9.3 | Deutsche Bank
| 09/03/06 | 67 | 74.8/143 | -6.2 | Deutsche Bank
| 09/02/06 | 72 | 74.8/143 | -2.2 | Deutsche Bank
| 09/01/06 | 66 | 74.8/143 | -7.0 | Deutsche Bank
| 08/27/06 | 68 | 75.1/128 | -6.3 | WGC - Bridgestone Inv.
| 08/26/06 | 71 | 75.1/128 | -3.6 | WGC - Bridgestone Inv.
* | 08/25/06 | 64 | 75.1/128 | -9.8 | WGC - Bridgestone Inv.
* | 08/24/06 | 67 | 75.1/128 | -7.2 | WGC - Bridgestone Inv.
* | 08/20/06 | 68 | 78.1/151 | -7.6 | PGA Championship
* | 08/19/06 | 65 | 78.1/151 | -9.8 | PGA Championship
* | 08/18/06 | 68 | 78.1/151 | -7.6 | PGA Championship
| 08/17/06 | 69 | 78.1/151 | -6.8 | PGA Championship
* | 08/06/06 | 66 | 74.3/133 | -7.1 | Buick Open
* | 08/05/06 | 66 | 74.3/133 | -7.1 | Buick Open
| 08/04/06 | 66 | 74.3/133 | -7.1 | Buick Open
| 08/03/06 | 66 | 74.3/133 | -7.1 | Buick Open
—- ——– —– ——– —– ———-
Average Differential: -7.0
Best 10 Average Differential: -8.2
Handicap Index: +8.5Now, take a deep breath and read that again. +8.5.
Tiger’s worst ten differentials average out to -5.7.
Something like 10% of golfers ever reach single digit handicaps.
Tiger’s not only done that (while still in the womb, no doubt), but
he’s blown through the single digits on the other side of scratch and
is in heretofore unexplored territory at +8.5. That may be the single
best handicap index ever!
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I suspect Dear Leader Kim Il Sung has a better index, but the DPRK GA
doesn't have a web site so I cannot verify that.
>Tiger's handicap is his personality.
It's worked for him.
He takes his job in the public as seriously as he takes his golf game.
He answers the same questions with the same answers every week, and
doesn't stray. At one time the media attention bothered him, now
it's just a job.
Apparently he has a small circle of close friends that he lets down
his hair with, but we won't see it.
Something doesn't make sense to me here. If all of these courses had slopes
of 113 then the differential would be the difference between the score and
the course rating (the slope adjustment would be 113/113). But because the
slopes are higher (i.e., the course is more difficult) the differentials go
down (really up, but you know what I mean). Doesn't that artificially
reduce a plus handicap?
I would have thought that since slope relates to the difficulty of the
course for the bogey golfer that in computing plus handicaps you wouldn't
make the slope adjustment, i.e., just use the raw differentials.
> * | 08/20/06 | 68 | 78.1/151 | -7.6 | PGA Championship
> * | 08/19/06 | 65 | 78.1/151 | -9.8 | PGA Championship
> * | 08/18/06 | 68 | 78.1/151 | -7.6 | PGA Championship
> | 08/17/06 | 69 | 78.1/151 | -6.8 | PGA Championship
How did they determine slope of the PGA Championship? Or any of the
courses set up for Tour play?
At least the U.S. Open wasn't in his last 20 rounds!
>> I suspect Dear Leader Kim Il Sung has a better index, but the DPRK GA
>> doesn't have a web site so I cannot verify that.
>
>When you lie, you should be sure that someone can't see it as
>a lie so easily that it is embarrassing. Didn't the Dear Leader
>shoot in the 50s with 3 holes in one? Was it his first time?
I wonder if his story was meant to be believed, or meant to show how
he controls everybody to say what he wants.
In all likelihood, it wouldn't have any affect on his index if it
was. Best ten of the last 20. Also, I'm not sure where people are
getting the slope/ratings for these courses, but if they are the
everyday published ones, we all know that when the TOUR rolls into
town, a course pretty much becomes two to three strokes more difficult
in the way it is setup by the committee. Just as a for instance, I've
walked on the greens at Pebble during TOUR play and during everyday
play - it's night and day.