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Unclaimed Mysteries

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Mar 26, 2010, 2:43:22 PM3/26/10
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64/100, on an Electricity and Masochism midterm.


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TimV

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Mar 26, 2010, 3:00:03 PM3/26/10
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On 3/26/10 1:43 PM, Unclaimed Mysteries wrote:
> 64/100, on an Electricity and Masochism midterm.
>
>
> -cls
>

Biological Physical Chemistry in grad school - had a 40-some % overall
in the class. 2nd highest grade. There might have been some students in
there in the single digits.

On an individual test, Biochem II in grad school. Answered only 2 out of
6 essay questions. Was livid but ended up with a 100%. Apparently I got
farther than anyone else.

T

CheeseHusker dos

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Mar 26, 2010, 3:09:46 PM3/26/10
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On Mar 26, 1:43 pm, Unclaimed Mysteries

<theLetterKandtheNumeral4-...@unclaimedmysteries.net> wrote:
> 64/100, on an Electricity and Masochism midterm.
>
> -cls
>
> --
> It Came From C. L. Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries.http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net

>
> What Does A Yellow Light Mean?http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net/blog

37% - freshman honors chem. That class was insane and so was the
prof. By the end of the year, the lectures were 7 chapters behind the
tests. He refused to deviate from his testing schedule. Second worst
teacher I had.*

*Worst was a Chinese post doc for calc who spent the entire time
lecturing while facing the chalkboard - chalk in his right hand,
eraser in his left and the equations we were supposed to xray thru his
body. And yes, his Engrish was....well, he might as well have been
speaking Russian for all we knew.

GregoryD

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Mar 26, 2010, 3:07:32 PM3/26/10
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On 3/26/2010 1:43 PM, Unclaimed Mysteries wrote:
> 64/100, on an Electricity and Masochism midterm.
>
>
> -cls
>

57/100 in a Databases class. Our instructor was a PhD student who had
zero clue how to teach anything. He'd simply throw slides up on a
projector and ramble on faster than anyone could write. I gave up and
stopped going to class (I probably attended 15% of classes total while
getting my CS degree and almost completing my MS in Applied Math),
instead studying from the notes of a classmate. The particular test in
question was a test regarding hierarchical databases. While my answers
were not the ones he was expecting to see (hence, the grade), I argued
the grade with him and got him to understand that my solutions were, in
fact, much more elegant than the one in the textbook or the slides.
Google has since received a patent for a similar method. Mine actually
worked slightly better because it used primary keys in its solution.

Still, I had the highest grade in the class by 20 points.

GregoryD

Antonio Veranos

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Mar 26, 2010, 3:20:38 PM3/26/10
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[theLetterKandt...@unclaimedmysteries.net | Unclaimed Mysteries]
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[Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:43:22 -0500]

: 64/100, on an Electricity and Masochism midterm.

41% in a physics class taught by an egomaniac who was more interested in
showing us that he knew more physics than us than in teaching us.

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The BorgMan

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Mar 26, 2010, 3:21:09 PM3/26/10
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Unclaimed Mysteries <theLetterKandt...@unclaimedmysteries.net>
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> 64/100, on an Electricity and Masochism midterm.

I remember gettin an "A" for a 44% on a test in "Logic Circuit Synthesis
and Optimization"

Mean on the test was in the 20's.

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Aaron

J. Hugh Sullivan

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Mar 26, 2010, 3:22:40 PM3/26/10
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Never got one. But I once got a B when I had the highest grade in the
physics class by 20 points over anyyone else and about half the class
would have failed since I didn't get an A.

Hugh

Peach

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Mar 26, 2010, 3:33:52 PM3/26/10
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On Mar 26, 12:43 pm, Unclaimed Mysteries

<theLetterKandtheNumeral4-...@unclaimedmysteries.net> wrote:
> 64/100, on an Electricity and Masochism midterm.
>
> -cls
>
> --
> It Came From C. L. Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries.http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net

>
> What Does A Yellow Light Mean?http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net/blog

They didn't grade on a curve for English majors.....it just wasn't
applicable, I guess. Not even in my required "core" classes do I
recall a teacher grading on a curve.

Peach

Anarchist Ruffain of Notre Dame

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Mar 26, 2010, 3:45:15 PM3/26/10
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On Mar 26, 3:09 pm, CheeseHusker dos <jonrus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 26, 1:43 pm, Unclaimed Mysteries
>
> <theLetterKandtheNumeral4-...@unclaimedmysteries.net> wrote:
> > 64/100, on an Electricity and Masochism midterm.
>
> > -cls
>
> > --
> > It Came From C. L. Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries.http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net
>
> > What Does A Yellow Light Mean?http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net/blog
>
> 37% - freshman honors chem.  That class was insane and so was the
> prof.  By the end of the year, the lectures were 7 chapters behind the
> tests. He refused to deviate from his testing schedule.  Second worst
> teacher I had.*

37 was an A? Geez, and I thought it was bad that in Dynamics II I
passed the class with a 55 for the semester... (I think that may have
even been a C) The prof was a good guy, but the material was just
ugly- I remember an example problem that it took him so long to do (3
days of classes) that by the time he had the answer, noone remembered
what the hell the question was.

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Jim Gysin

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Mar 26, 2010, 4:19:12 PM3/26/10
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Unclaimed Mysteries sent the following on 3/26/2010 1:43 PM:

> 64/100, on an Electricity and Masochism midterm.

Not quite the same thing, but a 31 got me a high B on my first and last
organic chemistry test at Illinois. The whole concept of how the class
was handled was a joke. After that, I decided that my Saturday mornings
were better spent elsewhere.

--
Jim Gysin
Waukesha, WI

Mercellus Bohren

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Mar 26, 2010, 5:54:27 PM3/26/10
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On Mar 26, 1:43 pm, Unclaimed Mysteries
<theLetterKandtheNumeral4-...@unclaimedmysteries.net> wrote:
> 64/100, on an Electricity and Masochism midterm.
>
> -cls
>
> --
> It Came From C. L. Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries.http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net

>
> What Does A Yellow Light Mean?http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net/blog

Electricity and Masochism?

Unclaimed Mysteries

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Mar 26, 2010, 6:06:40 PM3/26/10
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That's quality physics comedy for you.

Mercellus Bohren

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Mar 26, 2010, 6:19:33 PM3/26/10
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On Mar 26, 5:06 pm, Unclaimed Mysteries

<theLetterKandtheNumeral4-...@unclaimedmysteries.net> wrote:
> On 3/26/2010 4:54 PM, Mercellus Bohren wrote:
>
> > On Mar 26, 1:43 pm, Unclaimed Mysteries
> > <theLetterKandtheNumeral4-...@unclaimedmysteries.net>  wrote:
> >> 64/100, on an Electricity and Masochism midterm.
>
> >> -cls
>
> >> --
> >> It Came From C. L. Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries.http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net
>
> >> What Does A Yellow Light Mean?http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net/blog
>
> > Electricity and Masochism?
>
> That's quality physics comedy for you.
>
> -cls
>
> --
> It Came From C. L. Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries.http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net
>
> What Does A Yellow Light Mean?http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net/blog

Yeah, I don't believe in physics. We have one around the corner that's
open all night, and I've been tempted to drop in and get my palm read,
and the tea leaves, etc. But, that's a bunch of crap. What university
teaches a class in that anyway? You must not have been much of a card
reader. Bogus.

mianderson

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Mar 26, 2010, 6:52:06 PM3/26/10
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On Mar 26, 2:43 pm, Unclaimed Mysteries

<theLetterKandtheNumeral4-...@unclaimedmysteries.net> wrote:
> 64/100, on an Electricity and Masochism midterm.
>
> -cls
>
> --
> It Came From C. L. Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries.http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net

>
> What Does A Yellow Light Mean?http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net/blog

classes that have insane curves are poorly organized......if people
are making 40s and getting A's or whatever, that is a sign the class
needs to be restructured.......

Carl Banks

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Mar 26, 2010, 7:14:31 PM3/26/10
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On Mar 26, 11:43 am, Unclaimed Mysteries

<theLetterKandtheNumeral4-...@unclaimedmysteries.net> wrote:
> 64/100, on an Electricity and Masochism midterm

I got an A- on a multiple choice test for which 16 was a passing
grade, and randomly filling out circles would have given an expected
score of twenty.

I've gotten 90% or so a few times on tests where the second highest
score was in the 60s and A in the 50s.

Carl Banks

Va Beach Hokie

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Mar 26, 2010, 8:09:02 PM3/26/10
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On Fri 26 Mar 2010 07:14:31p, Carl Banks
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I don't ever remember being on top of the curve in one of these kinds
of situations. Closest similarity was the C I got for the quarter in
Elements of Real Analysis with a low 40 average.

the_andr...@yahoo.com

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On Mar 26, 2:43 pm, Unclaimed Mysteries
<theLetterKandtheNumeral4-...@unclaimedmysteries.net> wrote:
> 64/100, on an Electricity and Masochism midterm.

63 Chemistry

a.

the_andr...@yahoo.com

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Mar 26, 2010, 8:55:37 PM3/26/10
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I'll never forget one of the guys in my honors comp program that wrote
nothing but porn.

The only instructor that appeared to never care smoked in class.

a.

the_andr...@yahoo.com

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Mar 26, 2010, 8:56:59 PM3/26/10
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It's college. A class with that kind of curve is in the process of
being restructured.

a.

Dale Hicks

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Mar 26, 2010, 9:34:50 PM3/26/10
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In article <MPG.2617195e2...@news-europe.giganews.com>,
summers...@yahoo.com says...

> [theLetterKandt...@unclaimedmysteries.net | Unclaimed Mysteries]
> [<hoiv7s$ovr$2...@news.eternal-september.org>]
> [Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:43:22 -0500]
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> : 64/100, on an Electricity and Masochism midterm.
>
> 41% in a physics class taught by an egomaniac who was more interested in
> showing us that he knew more physics than us than in teaching us.

I believe mine was in the 40's on Physics III (the one with all of
the Einsteinian stuff) test.

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GregoryD

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Mar 26, 2010, 10:54:44 PM3/26/10
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CheeseHusker dos wrote:
> On Mar 26, 1:43 pm, Unclaimed Mysteries
> <theLetterKandtheNumeral4-...@unclaimedmysteries.net> wrote:
>> 64/100, on an Electricity and Masochism midterm.
>>
>> -cls
>>
>> --
>> It Came From C. L. Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries.http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net
>>
>> What Does A Yellow Light Mean?http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net/blog
>
> 37% - freshman honors chem. That class was insane and so was the
> prof. By the end of the year, the lectures were 7 chapters behind the
> tests. He refused to deviate from his testing schedule. Second worst
> teacher I had.*

I got that exact same score for my first test in that class. My prof
decided that he'd rather do Mr. Wizard experiments the entire semester
than actually teach the course material.

Of course, a 37 in that case was actually a 37. After that, I gave up
trying to learn something from his classes and just studied the textbook
since he had already outlined on the syllabus what would be on the final
exam. He had a policy that you could take your final exam grade as your
grade in the class, so I took that chance, and scored a 95.

GregoryD

Kyle T. Jones

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Mar 27, 2010, 12:12:13 AM3/27/10
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GregoryD wrote:
> On 3/26/2010 1:43 PM, Unclaimed Mysteries wrote:
>> 64/100, on an Electricity and Masochism midterm.
>>
>>
>> -cls
>>
>
> 57/100 in a Databases class. Our instructor was a PhD student who had
> zero clue how to teach anything. He'd simply throw slides up on a
> projector and ramble on faster than anyone could write. I gave up and
> stopped going to class (I probably attended 15% of classes total while
> getting my CS degree and almost completing my MS in Applied Math),

I can't imagine a math department letting one of their grad students
slide on attending 15% of vis classes. Didn't you have a TA/RA role
while attending?

Anarchist Ruffain of Notre Dame

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Mar 27, 2010, 5:28:02 PM3/27/10
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On Mar 26, 6:06 pm, Unclaimed Mysteries

<theLetterKandtheNumeral4-...@unclaimedmysteries.net> wrote:
> On 3/26/2010 4:54 PM, Mercellus Bohren wrote:
>
> > On Mar 26, 1:43 pm, Unclaimed Mysteries
> > <theLetterKandtheNumeral4-...@unclaimedmysteries.net>  wrote:
> >> 64/100, on an Electricity and Masochism midterm.
>
> >> -cls
>
> >> --
> >> It Came From C. L. Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries.http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net
>
> >> What Does A Yellow Light Mean?http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net/blog
>
> > Electricity and Masochism?
>
> That's quality physics comedy for you.

I got it. But then, I were a enginnerding major. Perhaps an
architorture major would have gotten it as well.

--
TO

GregoryD

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Mar 27, 2010, 10:36:39 PM3/27/10
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Nope. I was working on the MS at the same time as my BS in Computer
Science in an accelerated program. I was also working a full time
8:30pm - 6am night shift to keep a roof over my head, and had to travel
an hour by bus to and from school... the bus hours being 7:30 pickup and
4:30 departure. I didn't skip class simply because it was boring, I
also skipped because I was having trouble staying awake.

Generally, I would get notes from a classmate who kept impeccable notes
and work on the homework and assignments, turning them in to the
professor before they were due and showing up only for the first day of
class, presentation days, and test days.

I ultimately graduated with the CS degree, and decided I wasn't going to
dick around at school for 2 more semesters just to take the final 2
classes necessary to complete the MS. There were no night classes for
me to take that would complete my degree, and I wanted to get on with my
life.

GregoryD

GregoryD

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Mar 28, 2010, 2:36:53 PM3/28/10
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Reminds me of a statistics class I took where, on the day we were
supposed to be reviewing the previous day's test, it took him 45 minutes
to determine the answer to one of the problems. His solution to this
issue from a grading standpoint, in all his strange, mathy goodness?
Gave everyone half-credit for the problem, without regard for the time
constraints we had to take the test, and no additional points or curves
for anything else.

GregoryD

JGibson

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Mar 28, 2010, 2:46:52 PM3/28/10
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This story reminds me of why I hated multivariable calculus. Nothing
to do with curving, just with this story. Every day, somebody would
say they didn't get a problem on the homework. The professor would
spend about 40 minutes incorrectly solving the problem, and then say
"well, you get the point." Then he would have about 10 minutes to
lecture on the new material. By far the worst class I've ever had.


GregoryD

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Mar 28, 2010, 2:55:15 PM3/28/10
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This fully depends on the philosophy of the instructor. Some want to
simply test you on what your knowledge of the source material is, which
is fine. Some cannot mentally grasp the fact that students do not have
expert level knowledge of their field, so it is impossible for the
instructor to create a fair test for them (there really are professors
like Sheldon of the Big Bang Theory). And then there are those who use
the test to determine how well a student knows the material by asking
questions that require out of the box thinking or an extremely strong
understanding of the material beyond "solve for x."

I've had professors of all those types. The weirdest one took care of
two invalid parents (he would freely talk about issuing them
suppositories, amongst other things), didn't know how to drive (he rode
a bicycle to school), and rarely took showers. When his clothes became
too foul, he simply took them off and stuck them in a cubby hole in his
office, then clothed himself in a different set of clothes whose
bacterial infestation due to his perspiration had ceased.

Still, my Numerical Analysis class was cake because he would freely
imbibe upon long island iced tea daiqiuris that I brought to class.
He'd get tipsy about 15 minutes after the start of class and let us go
for the afternoon.

GregoryD


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