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GOP Fast & Furious bullshit is falling apart

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Huck Kennedy

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Jun 27, 2012, 9:09:14 PM6/27/12
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Four paragraph summary:

http://tinyurl.com/7jyenff

The full expose from Fortune magazine:

http://tinyurl.com/7k2gzq5

Stupid Republicans. Hooked and flopping in the boat.

Huck

timv

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Jun 27, 2012, 9:23:52 PM6/27/12
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I read that this morning. And it has me all that more confused as to why the Administration is doing its best to look like it is hiding something.

Bradley K. Sherman

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Jun 27, 2012, 9:35:00 PM6/27/12
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timv <timv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:09:14 PM UTC-5, Huck Kennedy wrote:
>> http://tinyurl.com/7jyenff
>> The full expose from Fortune magazine:
>> http://tinyurl.com/7k2gzq5
>> Stupid Republicans. Hooked and flopping in the boat.
>
>I read that this morning. And it has me all that more confused as to why
>the Administration is doing its best to look like it is hiding
>something.

Statue of Liberty play?

--bks

Huck Kennedy

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Jun 27, 2012, 9:35:13 PM6/27/12
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Read about what I said about "hooked and flopping in the
boat." Let the Repubs work themselves into a ridiculous frenzy,
comparing it to Watergate, and threatening to hold the US Atty. Gen'l.
in contempt for the first time in history, and then let it all blow up
in their faces. Pretty clever.

Huck

freddy...@yahoo.com

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Jun 27, 2012, 10:17:37 PM6/27/12
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It's like Watergate but with lots and lots of dead bodies.

It's a pretty obvious and simple situation. If I were intellectually bankrupt enough to support the admin on this one I'd probably call it a "ridiculous frenzy" as well. I'd do things like concentrate on how stupid the Republicans are rather than the actual facts of the case. Good work.

-Tom Enright

> Huck

Bradley K. Sherman

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Jun 27, 2012, 10:25:30 PM6/27/12
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<freddy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>It's like Watergate but with lots and lots of dead bodies.

Only if you ignore the 1,500,000 dead Vietnamese and the
58,000 dead American soldiers that haunted the Watergate.

--bks

timv

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Jun 27, 2012, 10:27:55 PM6/27/12
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The world of politics doesn't really work like that. It isn't rsfc. There is either something deeper to this, or they are just plain incompetent. Given their track record on communication and strategy post-inauguration, I'm voting the latter.

timv

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Jun 27, 2012, 10:32:52 PM6/27/12
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In a group that has seen more than its share of stupid comments, this one is plain gold-plated awesomeness.

T

freddy...@yahoo.com

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Jun 27, 2012, 10:33:15 PM6/27/12
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I'm trying to figure this one out. Watergate was a cover-up relating to the Vietnam War? I think you are thinking about the Gulf Of Tonkin incident.

-Tom Enright

> --bks

Bradley K. Sherman

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Jun 27, 2012, 10:43:19 PM6/27/12
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In article <cf586206-55d5-4639...@googlegroups.com>,
There is no coverup in Fast and Furious. Didn't you read
the _Fortune_ article? The dead bodies that are part of
the Bush Merida program are not part of a coverup. Well
I guess some GS-9 in the Phoenix office of ATF was trying
to cover his butt, but that's as far as it goes.

"Lots and lots of dead bodies" is total codswallop.

--bks

Huck Kennedy

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Jun 27, 2012, 11:46:36 PM6/27/12
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On Jun 27, 7:43 pm, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
> In article <cf586206-55d5-4639...@googlegroups.com>,
>
>  <freddy_ha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:25:30 PM UTC-4, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> >> <freddy_ha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >It's like Watergate but with lots and lots of dead bodies.
>
> >> Only if you ignore the 1,500,000 dead Vietnamese and the
> >> 58,000 dead American soldiers that haunted the Watergate.
>
> >I'm trying to figure this one out. Watergate was a cover-up relating to
> >the Vietnam War?  I think you are thinking about the Gulf Of Tonkin
> >incident.
>
> There is no coverup in Fast and Furious.  Didn't you read
> the _Fortune_ article?  The dead bodies that are part of
> the Bush Merida program are not part of a coverup.  Well
> I guess some GS-9 in the Phoenix office of ATF was trying
> to cover his butt, but that's as far as it goes.
>
> "Lots and lots of dead bodies" is total codswallop.

So is Enright, but don't tell anybody.

Huck

Huck Kennedy

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Jun 27, 2012, 11:45:32 PM6/27/12
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Read the damn full article if you want to know the true facts
of the case. Moron.

Instead you just shoot off your mouth in ignorance. As
usual.

Huck

freddy...@yahoo.com

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Jun 27, 2012, 11:54:28 PM6/27/12
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Yeah, coming from a couple of knuckleheads who appear to believe that Watergate led to over 1.5 million deaths in Vietnam I'll take that as high praise.

The Bush admin., unlike the Obama admin., actually worked with Mexican authorities. Did the Bush admin refuse to cooperate with the Congress?

-Tom Enright

> Huck

Huck Kennedy

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Jun 27, 2012, 11:58:58 PM6/27/12
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On Jun 27, 8:54 pm, freddy_ha...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:46:36 PM UTC-4, Huck Kennedy wrote:
> > On Jun 27, 7:43 pm, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
> > > In article <cf586206-55d5-4639...@googlegroups.com>,
>
> > >  <freddy_ha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:25:30 PM UTC-4, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> > > >> <freddy_ha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> >It's like Watergate but with lots and lots of dead bodies.
>
> > > >> Only if you ignore the 1,500,000 dead Vietnamese and the
> > > >> 58,000 dead American soldiers that haunted the Watergate.
>
> > > >I'm trying to figure this one out. Watergate was a cover-up relating to
> > > >the Vietnam War?  I think you are thinking about the Gulf Of Tonkin
> > > >incident.
>
> > > There is no coverup in Fast and Furious.  Didn't you read
> > > the _Fortune_ article?  The dead bodies that are part of
> > > the Bush Merida program are not part of a coverup.  Well
> > > I guess some GS-9 in the Phoenix office of ATF was trying
> > > to cover his butt, but that's as far as it goes.
>
> > > "Lots and lots of dead bodies" is total codswallop.
> >         So is Enright, but don't tell anybody.
>
> Yeah, coming from a couple of knuckleheads who appear to believe that Watergate led to over 1.5 million deaths in Vietnam I'll take that as high praise.

What the rsfck are you talking about, moron? Are you
drooling?

Huck

Fried Green Tornadoes

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Jun 28, 2012, 1:23:59 AM6/28/12
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FUMBLEROOSKIE!!```1`111!!!!


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Emperor Wonko the Sane

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Jun 28, 2012, 10:44:03 AM6/28/12
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On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:09:14 PM UTC-5, Huck Kennedy wrote:
The Obumble Spin Machine is in high gear now.

Doug

Dan Bretta

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Jun 28, 2012, 11:36:58 AM6/28/12
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I'm trying to figure out the problem here for Republicans...Unfettered
access to assault weapons is what they want isn't it? Don't they want
prosecutors who won't prosecute buying massive quantities of weapons?

Dan

freddy...@yahoo.com

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Jun 28, 2012, 1:06:36 PM6/28/12
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No.
No.

I'm trying to figure-out how these questions relate to the issue under discussion.

-Tom Enright

> Dan

Dan Bretta

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Jun 28, 2012, 4:06:35 PM6/28/12
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The guns ending up in the hands of drug warlords is a direct result of
the lax gun laws on the books..these lax gun laws are exactly what NRA
purchased politicians wanted. I would say that this bogus witch hunt
is going to backfire on Republicans, but Republican voters rarely get
the straight facts.

Dan

Emperor Wonko the Sane

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Jun 28, 2012, 4:19:30 PM6/28/12
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So Justice is stonewalling, the Prez invokes Executive Privilege and an agent in the program felt the need to blow the whistle on something where ATF did nothing wrong. Riiiiiight. Claiming someone else rarely has their facts straight vaporizes another irony meter.

Doug

Dan Bretta

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Jun 28, 2012, 6:49:28 PM6/28/12
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On Jun 28, 3:19 pm, Emperor Wonko the Sane <d...@sorensensdomain.net>
The president invoking EP in an ongoing investigation is something
new? And if you read the article you'll see that the ATF was trying
to prosecute, but Arizona prosecutors wouldn't bring charges...the
whistleblowing ATF agent had problems with his superiors in his office
well before he blew the whistle on anything.

Dan

Huck Kennedy

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Jun 28, 2012, 8:32:19 PM6/28/12
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On Jun 28, 1:19 pm, Emperor Wonko the Sane <d...@sorensensdomain.net>
Read the damn article, moron. How you blowhards can sound
off without even bothering to do so it rsfcking amazing.

Huck, "well no it isn't, none of you is capable of reading something
that long"

Huck Kennedy

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Jun 28, 2012, 8:33:50 PM6/28/12
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The whole Republican case is blowing up. But you say "and
if you read the article..."
Ah, there's the rub. They're not capable of reading the article.

Huck

timv

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Jun 28, 2012, 7:40:43 PM6/28/12
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The whistleblower not only was the one walking the guns, he did it without authorization from the head of the office. Then blatantly lied about it during the investigation.

Which again makes me wonder what the heck must be going on that the Admin is not just sharing everything.

T

Tony Lima

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Jun 29, 2012, 9:54:55 PM6/29/12
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All of this is bs. We have Brian Terry dead along with 300 Mexicans. WTF
cares about the rest? Stonewalling is unacceptable under these
circumstances. T

freddy...@yahoo.com

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Jun 30, 2012, 11:25:56 AM6/30/12
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On Friday, June 29, 2012 9:54:55 PM UTC-4, Tony Lima wrote:
> <freddy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:36:58 AM UTC-4, Dan Bretta wrote:
> >> On Jun 27, 8:09 pm, Huck Kennedy <tempeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Four paragraph summary:
> >>>
> >>> http://tinyurl.com/7jyenff
> >>>
> >>> The full expose from Fortune magazine:
> >>>
> >>> http://tinyurl.com/7k2gzq5
> >>>
> >>> Stupid Republicans. Hooked and flopping in the boat.
> >
> >> I'm trying to figure out the problem here for Republicans...Unfettered
> >> access to assault weapons is what they want isn't it? Don't they want
> >> prosecutors who won't prosecute buying massive quantities of weapons?
> >
> > No.
> > No.
> >
> > I'm trying to figure-out how these questions relate to the issue under discussion.
> >
> > -Tom Enright
> >

> All of this is bs. We have Brian Terry dead along with 300 Mexicans. WTF
> cares about the rest? Stonewalling is unacceptable under these
> circumstances. T

Don't worry, Kennedy keeps telling us those dead bodies don't count or it's really Bush' fault. Then again what's a few hundred Mexicans more or less? It's not like Kennedy is going to miss his dusky-hued neighbors.

-Tom Enright

Bradley K. Sherman

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Jun 30, 2012, 12:08:43 PM6/30/12
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| ...
| Meanwhile, press coverage of the operation itself, notably
| by Fortune magazine, has begun to reveal an underlying
| irony. Fast and Furious was an attempt by the Bureau of
| Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to slow the flow
| of guns into Mexico, where they often end up in the hands
| of murderous drug cartels. The ATF agents were hobbled by
| Arizona laws that allow almost anyone to buy firearms of
| almost any type and quantity. Federal prosecutors refused
| to bring cases against people identified as likely
| gun-running suspects, judging the chances of winning
| convictions to be remote.
|
| In the U.S. House, however, Fast and Furious is being
| portrayed as part of a broad effort to restrict gun rights,
| rather than as at least partially a product of the
| near-absence of such restrictions. The National Rifle
| Association scored the Holder vote as a gun-rights issue,
| meaning that members who wanted to keep their 100 percent
| NRA ratings had to support the contempt citation. All
| Republicans and 17 Democrats fell in line.
| ...
<http://www.registerguard.com/web/opinion/28312955-47/contempt-holder-fast-furious-citation.html.csp>

--bks

Huck Kennedy

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Jun 30, 2012, 12:17:13 PM6/30/12
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On Jun 30, 8:25 am, freddy_ha...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Friday, June 29, 2012 9:54:55 PM UTC-4, Tony Lima wrote:
You're getting hysterical and babbling incoherently again,
Enright.

Huck

Glen Heiman

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Jun 30, 2012, 5:36:15 PM6/30/12
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"Tony Lima" <to...@gonzoecon.com> wrote in message
news:P%sHr.468322$Xo4.2...@en-nntp-13.dc1.easynews.com...
And neither comes close to the DICKtator's direct concocted assault on the
2nd Amendment. The biggest MSM unsupported scandal in my lifetime.

Heiman


timv

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Jun 30, 2012, 5:50:17 PM6/30/12
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Well, except for those 10,000 Hitler clones found on the dark side of the moon. It is scandalous that the MSM never reported on that liberal plot too.

addre...@invalid.invalid

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Jun 30, 2012, 7:15:29 PM6/30/12
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Don't be a dick.

--
GS Rider

Glen Heiman

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Jun 30, 2012, 8:17:09 PM6/30/12
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"timv" <timv...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Brilliant! I heard the same type of psuedo-sarcasm defending global
warming.
Heiman


Huck Kennedy

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Jun 30, 2012, 8:56:20 PM6/30/12
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On Jun 30, 5:17 pm, "Glen Heiman" <dak...@cox.net> wrote:
> "timv" <timvr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3f90961c-2192-4743...@googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Saturday, June 30, 2012 4:36:15 PM UTC-5, Glen Heiman wrote:
> >> "Tony Lima" <t...@gonzoecon.com> wrote in message
> >>news:P%sHr.468322$Xo4.2...@en-nntp-13.dc1.easynews.com...
Oh look! Another idiot global warming denier!

Huck

Glen Heiman

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Jul 1, 2012, 10:52:12 AM7/1/12
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"Huck Kennedy" <temp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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As if a "DICTator is destroying the best country in the world denier" know?

Heiman
You can't be a liberal and not be a hypocrite.


Huck


Emperor Wonko the Sane

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Jul 2, 2012, 11:22:47 AM7/2/12
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And you bought that spin? If you see someone committing a crime, you arrest them. They let them walk.

Doug

Emperor Wonko the Sane

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Jul 2, 2012, 11:26:04 AM7/2/12
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Oh look! Another idiot AGW believer! It would be lovely for you to explain why one should believe a theory based on a group of computer models that have failed every testable hypothesis that's been applied to them.

Doug
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