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have been posted but what has happened to Sat. scores?thanks paul batman childs
KathyIg
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have been posted but what has happened to Sat. scores?thanks paul batman childs
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I was wondering the same thing, Paul. I was looking forward to checking out the
standings last night (Saturday) and was bummed. On a different note, I have a
general question for the group. Is four rounds really enough golf for a
tournament of this magnitude? I understand the organizers are setting up the
USDGC in similar fashion to ball golf events with one round a day and tee
times. Great. I have no problem with this. But six rounds seems to be a better
number, especially if the USDGC is to be billed as disc golf's second "major."
Thoughts?
Tom
R K
worth it. Until Marty gets the complete results posted, here are the top
competitors' scores taken from a printout provided by Brian Graham:
1 K Climo 51 50 49 54 204
2 A Schack 53 55 53 58 219
3 C Gangloff 55 56 55 57 223
4 P Arthur 60 57 52 57 226
5t M Moser 59 55 55 58 227
5t D Greenwell 57 55 57 58 227
5t R Voakes 54 57 54 62 227
8 B Schultz 57 57 50 64 228
9 B Schick 54 54 62 59 229 10 D Harper
60 56 55 59 230
11 S McDaniel 57 57 57 57 231
12t T Branch 53 58 62 59 232
12t R Russell 60 55 54 63 232
14t D McCormack 57 60 59 57 233
14t G Hosfeld 59 59 54 61 233
16 B McRee 59 58 54 63 234
17 K Yoo 56 54 58 67 235
18t W Haney 62 57 56 61 236
18t S Stokeley 59 55 60 62 236
18t J Meyers 55 63 54 64 236
21t B Dodge 57 56 61 63 237
21t C Todd 58 57 58 64 237
23t J Akins 59 60 58 61 238
23t L Leonard 58 55 64 61 238
23t D Grant 61 56 59 62 238
Congrats to all including Women's National Champion -- Juliana Bower
Hope this will suffice until the rest of the scores are posted via
pdga.com.
Rick Kite
PDGA# 10575
Philip DeMocker
Harold and Jonathan were trying to do is offer similarites to ball golf with
tee time (every 15 minets), fairways mowed to about and inch and a half with
greens even shorter and additional out of bounds marked with yellow rope and
green stakes. The course played extremly tough with the addition of OB on
several of the holes and I saw several OB shots from more then one player
(Ron Russell dropped 2 or 3 in the water on hole 8 (1053') in the first
round and posted a 60 for the round).
From talking with the other golfers many enjoyed the one round format. It
offered them time to wake up later if thier scores allowed it. Eat breakfast
and lunch at thier pace, not rushed like a typical weekend tourny offers and
Harold and JP had several events to keep the golfers interests during the
off hours (Thursday Ace Contest for $500, Friday Local Band
%25252522Vine%25252522 played on the patio and saturday all players had free
admission to the Guinness and Oyster Fest in Downtown Charlotte) in addition
to a driving range and putting area the ball golf course on the campas was
open to all players with baskets that were just off the greens.
In my personal opinion what I saw last weekend is the future of Disc Golf at
the professional level. Saturdays round I counted over 200 non player
following the final group around and when Kenny C. hit the ace in 17 that
numbers swelled to over 300 with other players included.
So as we debate over the # of rounds realize that we now have to put new
words into our disc golf vocabulary club house leader, groomed fairways and
gallery favorite.
As for me it was a dream come true I won a spot from the local radio station
and got to shot with two previos world champs John S and Harold D, I was
able renew old friendships nad make new ones, while I finished last I vowed
to all that next year I'll be there.
Thanks for your time
Phil %25252522Bigfoot%25252522 DeMocker
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Kim Theesen
> So as we debate over the # of rounds realize that we now have to put
> new
> words into our disc golf vocabulary club house leader, groomed
> fairways and
> gallery favorite.
And how about the words: legitimate par. I heard there was an
established par of 64 (witch included two par 5 holes of over 1000') for
the course used for this event. Anyone know how they established this
number? Was it strictly obective (distance)? Did they take into
consideration subjective criteria (water, trees, elevation change)?
A legitimate par needs to be established in disc golf. When someone says
they shot "par" (a 54 in current DG slang) on our short course here in
Lincoln (<5000 feet), it's not that big of a deal. A "par" on a monster
course of 7000+ feet is a little more impressive.
k.t.
lincoln, ne
C. Kennedy
actual play by rated players. The WCP of most courses will end up roughly 4-6
throws more than their course records (assuming course record is by top pro).
In the case of USDGC, it looks like the WCP for that course could be around
56-58. Most courses in the 5400-6300' range have WCPs around 45-51. The
toughest course at Rochester Worlds had a WCP of 49 (Chili). The easiest course
at Cincinnati Worlds had a WCP of 49.1 (Rapid Run) with Mt. Airy coming in at
53.1.
Chuck Kennedy
Derek Robins
the USDGC, and suggested 6 rounds. As someone who travelled across the
Atlantic just to play the tournament I would have more cause to feel short
changed than most if I thought that there was insufficient golf.
I have to say that I did not feel at all deprived of golf. I love PDGA
Worlds and the large scale of that event has many plusses. It is inclusive
and large scale, generating its own gravity to draw media and attention by
weight of numbers, and the numbers also generate a big headline prize money
fund. It's a big family get together - nowhere else do you get so many great
golfers together.
The USDGC offers a different experience, players have more time to warm up,
socialise and watch each other play. The golf can be savoured. I think 4
rounds is enough to determine who is best on one course. I also think that
the course was well balanced to test all skills. I had feared that with 2
x1000ft plus holes I would be at a big disadvantage to the big arms, but
power was only rewarded if accompanied by accuracy.
To fit in extra rounds would change the experience unless the tournament was
to start on Tuesday rather than Thursday. As a player I would have had no
problem with that, but it would have been an extra burden on the staff,
particularly the volunteer staff. I was greatly impressed by the fact that
volunteers took precious annual leave to staff the tournament. Given that
the tournament is to be held at the same location for the next two years
there is a danger that we ask too great a sacrifice of time from those
individuals.
My thanks to Jonathan Poole, Harold Duvall, all at Innova, the volunteer
staff and especially Phil and Jennifer Demoeker for looking after me. I had
a great time. You guys did a fantastic job.
Derek Robins
Doug Porter
> Tom asked whether 4 rounds is enough for a tournament of the magnitude of
> the USDGC, and suggested 6 rounds. As someone who travelled across the
> Atlantic just to play the tournament I would have more cause to feel short
> changed than most if I thought that there was insufficient golf.
> I have to say that I did not feel at all deprived of golf.
[Snip!]
Ahh, yes, but then again you put in 18 holes on the pitch and putt. Perhaps
you were really craving 90 holes of golf and those extra 18 hit the spot
just so...
:-)
doug
jbra...@noprimaveraspam.com
>Thoughts?
One round a day on this course was plenty. Four rounds was enough to let the
cream rise. Everything about this event was designed to allow players to
produce there best golf, and I believe many of them did. The level of play that
Kenny displayed was truly amazing. He played near perfect golf, and his margin
of victory is a testament to his dominance.
All players had the opportunity to play another round after stroke play was over
and I saw very few players taking advantage. After the rounds where over the
scene definitely took on a relaxed atmosphere which was a wonderful change of
pace. Players laid around the driving range watching Stokely throw trick shots
and Kenny and Greg H freestlye. Jonathan made a statement at the players
meeting that he wanted players to slow down and enjoy the time we got to spend
together. Well I believe his plan succeeded, this was truly a disc golf
vacation. I did not hear a single complaint about the format all weekend or
since I've been back.
As far as par goes, this course was the best example of an established par
greater than 54 that I've seen. The score card listed a 64 as par I believe the
true par by today's hole by hole standards was a 63. 2 par 5's where getting a
5 was a good thing, and 5 par 4's that where not easy 4's. All the par 4's were
around 600' and were skirted by OB so placement was at a premium. I didn't hear
of anyone carding a 2 on any of the par 4's. (Hole 9 was incorrectly reported
on the card as a par 4, the hole was only 385')
I believe all the players that attended felt like they were a part of something
special. This format will only grow and increase in popularity as more players
are exposed to it.
John
R K
Championship. Next year is going to be BIG!!! Can't wait. As as staff
member, all the long days preparing for and during the USDGC and driving
over 800 miles locally last week, paid off for me personally at the
awards ceremonies when all of the competitors showed their appreciation
by the long warm round of applause for all of us staff members and for
Jonathan and Harold. I can't speak for others , but it made ME feel real
good!!! Thanks, Guys and Gals...we really appreciate it and glad ya'll
liked what we accomplished. Any word on when and if we might see any
footage that was shot for TV during the final round (or did I miss it)?
Thanks to all for a great vacation.
Rick K.