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Gareth Owen

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Nov 26, 2003, 4:38:47 AM11/26/03
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Picture round at :
http://www.geocities.com/drgazowen/pix.pdf

1. Anagram of a famous person : FELT PRONE, WET GIRLS
[Left pondians have every reason to have never heard of her/him]
2. In what year : OJ Simpson acquitted of murder, Barings Bank collapses,
Jerry Garcia dies, Braveheart sweeps Oscars
3. In which city is the Maracana football stadium, home to Flamengo, Vasco,
Fluminense and Botafogo ?
4. What is the name of the main human protagonist in Pokemon?
5. Today is Lib Dem leader Charles Kennedy's birthday.
What is his constituency?
6. What colour is Topaz?
7. What is a Leveret?
8. What is the alternative name of the character known as Neo, as played
[woodenly] by Keanu Reeves in the Matrix films?
9. What is the principal ingredient in the US / Canadian delicacy called
Mountain Oysters or Prairie Oysters?
10. What was the name of the famous Manchester nightclub owned in part by
Factory Records and the band New Order?
11. When is St Andrew's Day?
12. Where will the British built explorer Beagle II be visiting this
Christmas?
13. Where, in December 1941, was Ilse Lund reunited with Richard Blaine?
14. Which British soap opera is set in the village of Cwmderi?
15. Which city has railway stations called Parkway and Temple Meads?
16. Which famous tennis player has been recruited as a coach to help Britain's
ailing players?
17. Which major river flows through Rome?
18. Which two European leaders met Tony Blair this week?
19. Who appeared as a special guest voice on The Simpsons in the US yesterday?
[Bonus: What was the episode titled]
20. Who shot Lee Harvey Oswald?
21. How many acres in a square mile [640, 960 or 1280]?
22. Who or what was Snowflake, who died in Barcelona, yesterday?
23. Who have the Political Studies Association named "Politician Of The Year"
for 2003?
24. With which band did boring skinsman Phil Collins come to fame?
25. Which musical instrument is associated with Jazz man Charles Mingus?
26. Who captained the England side that lost the Rugby World Cup final in
1991?
27. What is the name of Paul McCartney's fashion designer daughter?
28. How did Captain Edward J. Smith achieve infamy in 1912?
29. What did the lion want from the Wizard of Oz?
30. What links the previous 5 answers?

Tie Break : When did BBC2 start?

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Robert Israel

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Nov 26, 2003, 5:01:05 AM11/26/03
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In article <r5ik75n...@gill.maths.keele.ac.uk>,
Gareth Owen <use...@gwowen.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>4. What is the name of the main human protagonist in Pokemon?

Ash.

>6. What colour is Topaz?

Yellowish (usually)

>7. What is a Leveret?

A young hare.



>9. What is the principal ingredient in the US / Canadian delicacy called
> Mountain Oysters or Prairie Oysters?

Calf testicles.

>12. Where will the British built explorer Beagle II be visiting this
> Christmas?

Mars.

>17. Which major river flows through Rome?

The Tiber.

>20. Who shot Lee Harvey Oswald?

Jack Ruby.

>21. How many acres in a square mile [640, 960 or 1280]?

640

>22. Who or what was Snowflake, who died in Barcelona, yesterday?

Albino gorilla.

>28. How did Captain Edward J. Smith achieve infamy in 1912?

Captain of the Titanic.

>29. What did the lion want from the Wizard of Oz?

Courage.

Robert Israel isr...@math.ubc.ca
Department of Mathematics http://www.math.ubc.ca/~israel
University of British Columbia
Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z2

Wojciech Jaruzelski

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Nov 26, 2003, 7:01:21 AM11/26/03
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1. Myanmar
2. Thailand
3. Bhutan
4. William Webb Ellis Cup

7. Stanley Cup
8. Billy Elliott
13. Jesse Owens

> 2. In what year : OJ Simpson acquitted of murder, Barings Bank collapses,
> Jerry Garcia dies, Braveheart sweeps Oscars

1995?

> 3. In which city is the Maracana football stadium, home to Flamengo, Vasco,
> Fluminense and Botafogo ?

Rio de Janeiro

> 4. What is the name of the main human protagonist in Pokemon?

Ash

> 6. What colour is Topaz?

I thought it was colorless?

> 8. What is the alternative name of the character known as Neo, as played
> [woodenly] by Keanu Reeves in the Matrix films?

(Thomas Remi?) Anderson

> 9. What is the principal ingredient in the US / Canadian delicacy called
> Mountain Oysters or Prairie Oysters?

An egg

> 17. Which major river flows through Rome?

Tiber

> 27. What is the name of Paul McCartney's fashion designer daughter?

Stella

Gareth Owen

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Nov 26, 2003, 7:23:21 AM11/26/03
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isr...@math.ubc.ca (Robert Israel) writes:

A slate of answers, every one of which was correct...
--
Gareth Owen
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He might even have broken a nail." -- Peter Taylor on Rob Savage's fitness

Gareth Owen

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Nov 26, 2003, 7:24:56 AM11/26/03
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Wojciech Jaruzelski <novo...@pandora.be> writes:

> > 6. What colour is Topaz?
>
> I thought it was colorless?

They can be, although thats unusual.

> > 9. What is the principal ingredient in the US / Canadian delicacy called
> > Mountain Oysters or Prairie Oysters?
>
> An egg

Wrong

All others correct

Mensanator

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Nov 26, 2003, 9:08:21 AM11/26/03
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A polar bear in a blizzard?

The inside of a ping pong ball?

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Ted S.

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Nov 26, 2003, 10:10:01 AM11/26/03
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Somebody claiming to be Gareth Owen <use...@gwowen.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote in news:r5ik75n...@gill.maths.keele.ac.uk:

>Picture round at :
>http://www.geocities.com/drgazowen/pix.pdf
>
>1. Anagram of a famous person : FELT PRONE, WET GIRLS
>
> [Left pondians have every reason to have never heard of her/him]
>2. In what year : OJ Simpson acquitted of murder, Barings Bank
>collapses,
> Jerry Garcia dies, Braveheart sweeps Oscars

1995 CE

>3. In which city is the Maracana football stadium, home to Flamengo,
>Vasco,
> Fluminense and Botafogo ?

Rio de Janeiro

>4. What is the name of the main human protagonist in Pokemon?
>5. Today is Lib Dem leader Charles Kennedy's birthday.
> What is his constituency?

He represents the chattering classes.



>6. What colour is Topaz?

violet



>7. What is a Leveret?

It's the young of some rodent or some other small animal, but I can't
remember which one offhand.

>8. What is the alternative name of the character known as Neo, as
>played
> [woodenly] by Keanu Reeves in the Matrix films?
>9. What is the principal ingredient in the US / Canadian delicacy
>called
> Mountain Oysters or Prairie Oysters?
>10. What was the name of the famous Manchester nightclub owned in part
>by
> Factory Records and the band New Order?
>11. When is St Andrew's Day?
>12. Where will the British built explorer Beagle II be visiting this
> Christmas?

Galapagos Islands.

>13. Where, in December 1941, was Ilse Lund reunited with Richard
>Blaine?

Casablanca

>14. Which British soap opera is set in the village of Cwmderi?
>15. Which city has railway stations called Parkway and Temple Meads?

Melbourne



>16. Which famous tennis player has been recruited as a coach to help
>Britain's ailing players?

John "You cannot be serious!" McEnroe

>17. Which major river flows through Rome?

Tiber

>18. Which two European leaders met Tony Blair this week?

Jacques Chirac

>19. Who appeared as a special guest voice on The Simpsons in the US
>yesterday?
> [Bonus: What was the episode titled]

Sir Ian McKellen, Jane Leeves, J.K. Rowling, and Tony Blair. I don't
recall whether Evan Marriott actually voiced himself. Jaleel White and
Dame Judi Dench were both referenced, but did not provide voices.

Episode title: The Regina Monologues

>20. Who shot Lee Harvey Oswald?

Jack Ruby

>21. How many acres in a square mile [640, 960 or 1280]?

640

>22. Who or what was Snowflake, who died in Barcelona, yesterday?

An albino tiger

>23. Who have the Political Studies Association named "Politician Of
>The Year"
> for 2003?
>24. With which band did boring skinsman Phil Collins come to fame?

Genesis.

>25. Which musical instrument is associated with Jazz man Charles
>Mingus?

Trumpet

>26. Who captained the England side that lost the Rugby World Cup final
>in 1991?

>27. What is the name of Paul McCartney's fashion designer daughter?
>28. How did Captain Edward J. Smith achieve infamy in 1912?

Captain of the Titanic



>29. What did the lion want from the Wizard of Oz?

Courage

>30. What links the previous 5 answers?
>
>Tie Break : When did BBC2 start?
>

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Richard Schultz

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Nov 26, 2003, 11:02:23 AM11/26/03
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In rec.games.trivia Gareth Owen <use...@gwowen.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

: 4. What is the name of the main human protagonist in Pokemon?

Tony Blair?

: 13. Where, in December 1941, was Ilse Lund reunited with Richard Blaine?

I assume you mean Casablanca, although the film was released in 1942.
The action takes place before the Allied invasion of North Africa in
November 1942, however.

: 19. Who appeared as a special guest voice on The Simpsons in the US yesterday?

Inter alia, Tony Blair. (Also Ian McKellan and J. K. Rowling)

: [Bonus: What was the episode titled]

The Regina monologues

: 24. With which band did boring skinsman Phil Collins come to fame?

Genesis

: 25. Which musical instrument is associated with Jazz man Charles Mingus?

String Bass.

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Phil Carmody

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Nov 26, 2003, 11:10:06 AM11/26/03
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That's not a picture round.
A picture round would be called pix.html and contain
several <img src=...> tags.

> 6. What colour is Topaz?

pale yellow.

> 9. What is the principal ingredient in the US / Canadian delicacy called
> Mountain Oysters or Prairie Oysters?

bollocks. cow probably.

> 15. Which city has railway stations called Parkway and Temple Meads?

Bristol

> 16. Which famous tennis player has been recruited as a coach to help Britain's
> ailing players?

Is this to repay him for all the fines he had to pay for disorderly
behaviour at Wimbledon?

> 17. Which major river flows through Rome?

Begins with 'T'?
Tiber?

> 20. Who shot Lee Harvey Oswald?

Jack Ruby

> 24. With which band did boring skinsman Phil Collins come to fame?

Genesis

> 25. Which musical instrument is associated with Jazz man Charles Mingus?

Bass

> 26. Who captained the England side that lost the Rugby World Cup final in
> 1991?

Carling

> 27. What is the name of Paul McCartney's fashion designer daughter?

Stella

> 28. How did Captain Edward J. Smith achieve infamy in 1912?

For an encounter with Ice. Honestly, you've never seen so much
downed so quickly.

> 29. What did the lion want from the Wizard of Oz?

Courage

> 30. What links the previous 5 answers?

Are you saying I'm a sot?

> Tie Break : When did BBC2 start?

About 7:30am when I was in the UK.


Phil
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Gareth Owen

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sch...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) writes:

> : 13. Where, in December 1941, was Ilse Lund reunited with Richard Blaine?
>
> I assume you mean Casablanca, although the film was released in 1942.
> The action takes place before the Allied invasion of North Africa in
> November 1942, however.

"RICK : Its December 1941 in Casablanca. What time is it in New York?
SAM : My watch stopped
RICK : I bet they're asleep in New York.
I bet they're asleep all over America."

Keith Willoughby

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Nov 26, 2003, 1:43:20 PM11/26/03
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Gareth Owen wrote:

> 10. What was the name of the famous Manchester nightclub owned in part by
> Factory Records and the band New Order?

Hacienda

[...]

> 14. Which British soap opera is set in the village of Cwmderi?

Pobol y Cwm.

> 15. Which city has railway stations called Parkway and Temple Meads?

Brissle.


[...]

> 26. Who captained the England side that lost the Rugby World Cup final in
> 1991?

Will Carling

[...]

> Tie Break : When did BBC2 start?

1969. ObTrivia: What was the first scheduled programme shown in its
entirety?

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Ted S.

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Nov 26, 2003, 2:03:57 PM11/26/03
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Somebody claiming to be Phil Carmody <thefatphi...@yahoo.co.uk>
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>>9. What is the principal ingredient in the US / Canadian delicacy
>>called
>> Mountain Oysters or Prairie Oysters?
>
>bollocks. cow probably.

Cows have bollocks? :-)

Andrew Bull

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Nov 26, 2003, 4:51:20 PM11/26/03
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Gareth Owen wrote in message ...

>1. Anagram of a famous person : FELT PRONE, WET GIRLS


Peter Stringfellow.


Barbara Bailey

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Nov 26, 2003, 6:21:09 PM11/26/03
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On 26 Nov 2003 09:38:47 +0000, Gareth Owen
<use...@gwowen.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:


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7: The Stanley Cup?

9: Michael Caine

10: Shirley MacLaine

>6. What colour is Topaz?

Generally, golden or yellow, although there are other colors: Blue
topaz, smokey topaz (deep brown or grey), White topaz (clear).

>7. What is a Leveret?

A hare

>9. What is the principal ingredient in the US / Canadian delicacy called
> Mountain Oysters or Prairie Oysters?

The testicles of a bull or a ram

>13. Where, in December 1941, was Ilse Lund reunited with Richard Blaine?

Casablanca?

>17. Which major river flows through Rome?

The Po?

>20. Who shot Lee Harvey Oswald?

Jack Ruby

>21. How many acres in a square mile [640, 960 or 1280]?

640

>24. With which band did boring skinsman Phil Collins come to fame?

Genesis

>25. Which musical instrument is associated with Jazz man Charles Mingus?

Sax?

>27. What is the name of Paul McCartney's fashion designer daughter?

Stella

>29. What did the lion want from the Wizard of Oz?

Courage

Barbara

Mark Brader

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Nov 26, 2003, 6:20:07 PM11/26/03
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Gareth Owen:Wojciech Jaruzelski:

> 1. Myanmar
> 2. Thailand
> 3. Bhutan
> 4. William Webb Ellis Cup
>
> 7. Stanley Cup
> 8. Billy Elliott
> 13. Jesse Owens

9. Michael Caine as Harry Palmer
10. Shirley MacLaine
11. Looks like a polar explorer or mountain climber. Roald Amundsen?
12. Eric Blair, better known as George Orwell
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Robert Israel

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Nov 26, 2003, 7:54:20 PM11/26/03
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In article <r5ifzgb...@gill.maths.keele.ac.uk>,
Gareth Owen <use...@gwowen.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>Wojciech Jaruzelski <novo...@pandora.be> writes:

>> > 9. What is the principal ingredient in the US / Canadian delicacy called
>> > Mountain Oysters or Prairie Oysters?

>> An egg

>Wrong

Actually it seems there is more than one kind of prairie oyster.
According to OED:
---------------------
prairie oyster (a) = prairie cocktail; (b) calves' testicles cooked and
eaten as a delicacy;

prairie cocktail, a raw egg, seasoned, and swallowed in vinegar or spirits

mountain oyster, the testicles of a calf, sheep, or other animal, used as
food; lamb's fry; cf. prairie oyster
----------------------
According to dictionary.com:
-----------------------
prairie oyster
n.

1. Slang. A drink made from a whole raw egg yolk, Worcestershire sauce,
hot sauce, salt, and pepper that is taken as a palliative for a hangover
or as a cure for hiccups.
2. Chiefly Western U.S. The testis of a calf, cooked and served as
food.


Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth
Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
------------------
Personally, I haven't tried either kind, and don't intend to.

Dazed and Confused

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"Gareth Owen" <use...@gwowen.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:r5ik75n...@gill.maths.keele.ac.uk...

6. The Queen?

> 1. Anagram of a famous person : FELT PRONE, WET GIRLS
> [Left pondians have every reason to have never heard of her/him]
> 2. In what year : OJ Simpson acquitted of murder, Barings Bank collapses,
> Jerry Garcia dies, Braveheart sweeps Oscars
> 3. In which city is the Maracana football stadium, home to Flamengo,
Vasco,
> Fluminense and Botafogo ?
> 4. What is the name of the main human protagonist in Pokemon?
> 5. Today is Lib Dem leader Charles Kennedy's birthday.
> What is his constituency?
> 6. What colour is Topaz?
> 7. What is a Leveret?
> 8. What is the alternative name of the character known as Neo, as played
> [woodenly] by Keanu Reeves in the Matrix films?
> 9. What is the principal ingredient in the US / Canadian delicacy called
> Mountain Oysters or Prairie Oysters?
> 10. What was the name of the famous Manchester nightclub owned in part by
> Factory Records and the band New Order?
> 11. When is St Andrew's Day?

30th November

> 12. Where will the British built explorer Beagle II be visiting this
> Christmas?
> 13. Where, in December 1941, was Ilse Lund reunited with Richard Blaine?
> 14. Which British soap opera is set in the village of Cwmderi?
> 15. Which city has railway stations called Parkway and Temple Meads?
> 16. Which famous tennis player has been recruited as a coach to help
Britain's
> ailing players?
> 17. Which major river flows through Rome?
> 18. Which two European leaders met Tony Blair this week?
> 19. Who appeared as a special guest voice on The Simpsons in the US
yesterday?
> [Bonus: What was the episode titled]
> 20. Who shot Lee Harvey Oswald?
> 21. How many acres in a square mile [640, 960 or 1280]?
> 22. Who or what was Snowflake, who died in Barcelona, yesterday?
> 23. Who have the Political Studies Association named "Politician Of The
Year"
> for 2003?

Ken Livingstone

> 24. With which band did boring skinsman Phil Collins come to fame?
> 25. Which musical instrument is associated with Jazz man Charles Mingus?
> 26. Who captained the England side that lost the Rugby World Cup final in
> 1991?
> 27. What is the name of Paul McCartney's fashion designer daughter?
> 28. How did Captain Edward J. Smith achieve infamy in 1912?
> 29. What did the lion want from the Wizard of Oz?
> 30. What links the previous 5 answers?

Beer/Breweries, is it?

Gareth Owen

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isr...@math.ubc.ca (Robert Israel) writes:

> In article <r5ifzgb...@gill.maths.keele.ac.uk>,
> Gareth Owen <use...@gwowen.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> >Wojciech Jaruzelski <novo...@pandora.be> writes:
>
> >> > 9. What is the principal ingredient in the US / Canadian delicacy called
> >> > Mountain Oysters or Prairie Oysters?
>
> >> An egg
>
> >Wrong
>
> Actually it seems there is more than one kind of prairie oyster.

But the kind with an egg in are not alternatively called
Mountain Oysters, and so do not meet the criteria in the question.

Gareth Owen

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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) writes:

> 11. Looks like a polar explorer or mountain climber. Roald Amundsen?

Chose the wrong way. Not a polar explorer, but a mountain climber.
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Phil Carmody

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"Ted S." <fe...@bestweb.spam> writes:

> Somebody claiming to be Phil Carmody <thefatphi...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote in news:87k75na...@nonospaz.fatphil.org:
>
> >>9. What is the principal ingredient in the US / Canadian delicacy
> >>called
> >> Mountain Oysters or Prairie Oysters?
> >
> >bollocks. cow probably.
>
> Cows have bollocks? :-)

What do you view as the genderless singlular word for a bovine animal?

I was using 'cow' as a genderless term, as justified by M-W for example.
(And it's not only females that get cow-pox etc.) I prefer to use
gender-free terms for animals. Gender of animals to me is utterly
unimportant, I really couldn't care less what they have between their
legs. Maybe you do care about those kinds of things, nudge, nudge, wink,
wink; but I sure don't.

Phil
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Gareth Owen

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Nov 27, 2003, 6:49:00 AM11/27/03
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Phil Carmody <thefatphi...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:

> What do you view as the genderless singlular word for a bovine animal?

The exact same issue arose while reading this quiz.
The OED seem to suggest ox, defined as

"the domestic bovine quadruped (sexually distinguished as bull and cow);
in common use, applied to the male castrated and used for draught
purposes, or reared to serve as food."

but as you say, M-W allow for gender neutral cows.

> Gender of animals to me is utterly unimportant,

OK, but if you're ever offered bull's milk, be very careful.
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Gareth Owen

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Nov 27, 2003, 6:50:00 AM11/27/03
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mensa...@aol.compost (Mensanator) writes:

> >Picture round at :
> >http://www.geocities.com/drgazowen/pix.pdf
> >
>
> A polar bear in a blizzard?
> The inside of a ping pong ball?

Looks fine to me, with Acrobat reader or xpdf
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Nov 27, 2003, 7:46:08 AM11/27/03
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In article <877k1ma...@nonospaz.fatphil.org>,

Phil Carmody <thefatphi...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>> Cows have bollocks? :-)
>
>What do you view as the genderless singlular word for a bovine animal?
>
>I was using 'cow' as a genderless term, as justified by M-W for example.
>(And it's not only females that get cow-pox etc.) I prefer to use
>gender-free terms for animals. Gender of animals to me is utterly
>unimportant, I really couldn't care less what they have between their
>legs. Maybe you do care about those kinds of things, nudge, nudge, wink,
>wink; but I sure don't.

The same argument could be used for using "man" as a genderless term for
human being, but plenty of people object to that!

The problem with cow is that, as an insult, it seems to be exclusively
female.

Derek Holt.

Gareth Owen

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Nov 27, 2003, 8:30:03 AM11/27/03
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Keith Willoughby <ke...@flat222.org> writes:

> > Tie Break : When did BBC2 start?
>
> 1969.

Not according to my source.

> ObTrivia: What was the first scheduled programme shown in its entirety?

Playschool?
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Mensanator

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>Subject: Re: Pub Quiz [2003/11/25]
>From: Gareth Owen use...@gwowen.freeserve.co.uk
>Date: 11/27/2003 5:50 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <r5i1xru...@gill.maths.keele.ac.uk>

>
>mensa...@aol.compost (Mensanator) writes:
>
>> >Picture round at :
>> >http://www.geocities.com/drgazowen/pix.pdf
>> >
>>
>> A polar bear in a blizzard?
>> The inside of a ping pong ball?
>
>Looks fine to me, with Acrobat reader or xpdf

Yeah, I see it now, something must have gone wrong the first time.

As HAL would say:

"These sort of things have cropped up before,
and it has always been due to human error."

>--
>Gareth Owen
>Datta. Dayadhvam. Damyata.

Richard Schultz

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In rec.games.trivia Gareth Owen <use...@gwowen.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
: sch...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) writes:

:> : 13. Where, in December 1941, was Ilse Lund reunited with Richard Blaine?

:> I assume you mean Casablanca, although the film was released in 1942.
:> The action takes place before the Allied invasion of North Africa in
:> November 1942, however.

: "RICK : Its December 1941 in Casablanca. What time is it in New York?
: SAM : My watch stopped
: RICK : I bet they're asleep in New York.
: I bet they're asleep all over America."

Actually, what Rick said was, "*If* it's December 1941 [I'm giving him
credit for knowing the difference between "its" and "it's"] in Casablanca. . ."
And in any case, he was drunk at the time he made that famous speech.

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if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic."

Gareth Owen

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Nov 27, 2003, 11:06:17 AM11/27/03
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sch...@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) writes:

> Actually, what Rick said was, "*If* it's December 1941 [I'm giving him
> credit for knowing the difference between "its" and "it's"] in Casablanca. . ."

So what he meant was:

"If it were December 1941 in Casablanca, what time would it be New York.
... I bet they would be asleep in New York..."

Don't buy it. He's asking a question about geo-politics, not testing Sam's
ability to convert hypothetical timezone information.

> And in any case, he was drunk at the time he made that famous speech.

That's why he missed the apostrophe.
Rick never remembered apostrophes when he was drunk.

Keith Willoughby

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Nov 27, 2003, 2:18:52 PM11/27/03
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Gareth Owen wrote:

> Keith Willoughby <ke...@flat222.org> writes:
>
>> > Tie Break : When did BBC2 start?
>>
>> 1969.
>
> Not according to my source.

Bugger. I was sure about that, too.

>> ObTrivia: What was the first scheduled programme shown in its entirety?
>
> Playschool?

Yup! The strike stopped the broadcast of the first evening's programmes.

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Gareth Owen

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Nov 27, 2003, 2:37:50 PM11/27/03
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Keith Willoughby <ke...@flat222.org> writes:

> Gareth Owen wrote:
>
> > Keith Willoughby <ke...@flat222.org> writes:
> >
> >> > Tie Break : When did BBC2 start?
> >>
> >> 1969.
> >
> > Not according to my source.
>
> Bugger. I was sure about that, too.

Checked a number of sources. They all say you're five years too later.
They were doing colour by 1967. You can see some splendidly wobbly station
idents from the mid-sixties at:
http://www.meldrum.co.uk/mhp/identzone/bbc2/bbc2_part1.html
--
Gareth Owen
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Erland Sommarskog

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Nov 27, 2003, 5:38:33 PM11/27/03
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(ma...@mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk) writes:
> The same argument could be used for using "man" as a genderless term for
> human being, but plenty of people object to that!

No matter whether they object to it or not, the usage exists and is
common.

And the objection appears from my angle as fairly stupid. "Man" in that
meaning translates in Swedish to "människa" which grammatically is
female. And know what? I've heard anyone complain that that usage is
sexistic.

--
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Neil Sunderland

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Nov 27, 2003, 5:53:43 PM11/27/03
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Keith Willoughby wrote:
>> Tie Break : When did BBC2 start?
>1969.

'Twas 1964, actually.

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ma...@mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk

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Nov 27, 2003, 6:15:51 PM11/27/03
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In article <Xns9440F0398...@127.0.0.1>,

Erland Sommarskog <som...@algonet.se> writes:
> (ma...@mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk) writes:
>> The same argument could be used for using "man" as a genderless term for
>> human being, but plenty of people object to that!
>
>No matter whether they object to it or not, the usage exists and is
>common.

The usage is now obsolescent. You still occasionally hear "man" used
meaning "mankind", as in "the ascent of man" but even that is
beginning to sound old-fashioned. A sentence containing "a man", like
"I saw a man walking along the street" would always refer to a male in
modern usage.

>And the objection appears from my angle as fairly stupid.

Well it seems totally stupid to me to have a word which can
either mean " a human being" or "a male human being". What reason
could there be for having a word which is inherently ambiguous?

> "Man" in that
>meaning translates in Swedish to "människa" which grammatically is
>female.

So what? Grammatical genders do not always correlate with physical ones!
A person is feminine in Fench, little girls are neuter in German, etc.

> And know what? I've heard anyone complain that that usage is
>sexistic.

I am very pleased to hear that you have heard complaints about it!

Derek Holt.

Ted S.

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Nov 27, 2003, 8:32:45 PM11/27/03
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Somebody claiming to be Phil Carmody <thefatphi...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote in news:877k1ma...@nonospaz.fatphil.org:

>>>bollocks. cow probably.
>>
>>Cows have bollocks? :-)
>
>What do you view as the genderless singlular word for a bovine animal?

Steer? Or perhaps "head".

Duncan Smith

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Nov 27, 2003, 8:49:52 PM11/27/03
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"Ted S." <fe...@bestweb.spam> wrote in message
news:Xns9440A71BDA2958j...@ID-121946.user.dfncis.de...

> Somebody claiming to be Phil Carmody <thefatphi...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote in news:877k1ma...@nonospaz.fatphil.org:
>
> >>>bollocks. cow probably.
> >>
> >>Cows have bollocks? :-)
> >
> >What do you view as the genderless singlular word for a bovine animal?
>
> Steer? Or perhaps "head".
>

I guess the British equivalent of steer would be 'beast' (judging by the
farmers I know).

Duncan


gerson

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Nov 28, 2003, 7:10:10 AM11/28/03
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>
> > 11. Looks like a polar explorer or mountain climber. Roald Amundsen?
>
> Chose the wrong way. Not a polar explorer, but a mountain climber.
> --

So, -- it's just about the most famous mountaineer ever,
Edmund Hillary

No. 6, could that be Rudolf Nureyev ?

John Gerson
"Why does it always rain at the end of a long drought ?"


mUs1Ka

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Nov 28, 2003, 11:43:08 AM11/28/03
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"Ted S." <fe...@bestweb.spam> wrote in message
news:Xns9440A71BDA2958j...@ID-121946.user.dfncis.de...
> Somebody claiming to be Phil Carmody <thefatphi...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote in news:877k1ma...@nonospaz.fatphil.org:
>
> >>>bollocks. cow probably.
> >>
> >>Cows have bollocks? :-)
> >
> >What do you view as the genderless singlular word for a bovine animal?
>
> Steer? Or perhaps "head".
>
Unfortunately, steer is male.
m.


tomca...@yanospamhoo.com

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Nov 28, 2003, 12:10:57 PM11/28/03
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In rec.puzzles gerson <ger...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> > 11. Looks like a polar explorer or mountain climber. Roald Amundsen?
>>
>> Chose the wrong way. Not a polar explorer, but a mountain climber.
>> --

> So, -- it's just about the most famous mountaineer ever,
> Edmund Hillary

Lots of professions have only one or two famous, the rest anonymous.
At Thanksgiving yesterday we were discussing the old "What's My Line" and
someone mentioned Bennett Cerf, the famous publisher. No one could recall
what Wally Cox was famous for.

Gareth Owen

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Nov 28, 2003, 12:19:15 PM11/28/03
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"gerson" <ger...@bigpond.net.au> writes:

> > Chose the wrong way. Not a polar explorer, but a mountain climber.
> > --
>
> So, -- it's just about the most famous mountaineer ever,
> Edmund Hillary

Here in the UK Chris Bonnington gamed a modicum of fame
(but not enough for me to know how many 'n's should appear in his surname)
--
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There are a finite number of jokes in the universe.

Errol Cavit

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Nov 28, 2003, 2:29:02 PM11/28/03
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"gerson" <ger...@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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> >
> > > 11. Looks like a polar explorer or mountain climber. Roald Amundsen?
> >
> > Chose the wrong way. Not a polar explorer, but a mountain climber.
>
> So, -- it's just about the most famous mountaineer ever,
> Edmund Hillary
>

Who is also a polar explorer (as is his son Peter)
http://www.siredmundhillary.com/hillary.html

ObPuzzle: Are there any other non-dead non-politicians on currently issued
currency?

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believe that it all just comes from a bird, or indeed any kind of animal.
Pink Floyd studio out-takes perhaps, but not a parrot.
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Ted S.

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Nov 28, 2003, 2:38:45 PM11/28/03
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Somebody claiming to be tomca...@yaNOSPAMhoo.com wrote in
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>Lots of professions have only one or two famous, the rest anonymous.
>At Thanksgiving yesterday we were discussing the old "What's My Line"
>and someone mentioned Bennett Cerf, the famous publisher. No one could
>recall what Wally Cox was famous for.

He was the voice of Underdog.

(And wasn't he more famour for being on Hollywood Squares?)

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Erland Sommarskog

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Nov 28, 2003, 4:57:51 PM11/28/03
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(ma...@mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk) writes:
> The usage is now obsolescent. You still occasionally hear "man" used
> meaning "mankind", as in "the ascent of man" but even that is
> beginning to sound old-fashioned. A sentence containing "a man", like
> "I saw a man walking along the street" would always refer to a male in
> modern usage.

I have never seen "a man" used in gender-neutral sense. (But I see
some examples on http://www.m-w.com, see entry 2.) But "man" without
an article refers to the entire human race, both men and women. And
this usage seems to be anything but obsolete, a search on Google for the
phrase "Man has always" yields 13100 hits. Of those displayed on the
first page, nine of ten are references to mankind, and one to a man.



> Well it seems totally stupid to me to have a word which can
> either mean " a human being" or "a male human being". What reason
> could there be for having a word which is inherently ambiguous?

Language is not he result of deliberate design, but an evolvement over
time, and there few languages are flawless in the sense that they do
not have any ambiguities. You cannot always find a reason for why
language is like it is.

In Swedish by the way, "man" is also ambiguous. It can refer to a male
human being" or it can be an impersonal pronoun. "Man kan inte alltid
få som man vill" - "You (one) can not always get what you want". The
way it is used, the best translation into English would often be "I" -
even if the speaker is a woman: "Man har inte haft någon lyckad dag idag",
literaly: "One has not had any good day today".

>> "Man" in that meaning translates in Swedish to "människa" which
>> grammatically is female.
>
> So what? Grammatical genders do not always correlate with physical ones!
> A person is feminine in Fench, little girls are neuter in German, etc.

Precisely! The eager to stamp out "man" for "the human race", "he" as
a generic pronoun etc, comes from a perceived sexism in the language.

Erland Sommarskog

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Nov 28, 2003, 5:01:11 PM11/28/03
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Errol Cavit (err...@hotmail.com) writes:
> ObPuzzle: Are there any other non-dead non-politicians on currently issued
> currency?

Of course there are! I can think of quite a few kings and queens.

Earle Jones

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Nov 30, 2003, 7:47:16 PM11/30/03
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In article <r5ik75n...@gill.maths.keele.ac.uk>,
Gareth Owen <use...@gwowen.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

[...]

> 9. What is the principal ingredient in the US / Canadian delicacy called
> Mountain Oysters or Prairie Oysters?

Bull testicles.

[...]

> 20. Who shot Lee Harvey Oswald?

Jack Ruby

> 21. How many acres in a square mile [640, 960 or 1280]?

640

[...]

> 25. Which musical instrument is associated with Jazz man Charles Mingus?

Bass violin

earle
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Earle Jones

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Nov 30, 2003, 7:50:24 PM11/30/03
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In article <877k1ma...@nonospaz.fatphil.org>,
Phil Carmody <thefatphi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> "Ted S." <fe...@bestweb.spam> writes:
>
> > Somebody claiming to be Phil Carmody <thefatphi...@yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote in news:87k75na...@nonospaz.fatphil.org:
> >
> > >>9. What is the principal ingredient in the US / Canadian delicacy
> > >>called
> > >> Mountain Oysters or Prairie Oysters?
> > >
> > >bollocks. cow probably.
> >
> > Cows have bollocks? :-)
>
> What do you view as the genderless singlular word for a bovine animal?
>
> I was using 'cow' as a genderless term, as justified by M-W for example.
> (And it's not only females that get cow-pox etc.) I prefer to use
> gender-free terms for animals. Gender of animals to me is utterly
> unimportant, I really couldn't care less what they have between their
> legs. Maybe you do care about those kinds of things, nudge, nudge, wink,
> wink; but I sure don't.

*
Bollocks!

earle
*

Earle Jones

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Nov 30, 2003, 7:51:10 PM11/30/03
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In article
<Xns9440A71BDA2958j...@ID-121946.user.dfncis.de>,
"Ted S." <fe...@bestweb.spam> wrote:

> Somebody claiming to be Phil Carmody <thefatphi...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote in news:877k1ma...@nonospaz.fatphil.org:
>
> >>>bollocks. cow probably.
> >>
> >>Cows have bollocks? :-)
> >
> >What do you view as the genderless singlular word for a bovine animal?
>
> Steer? Or perhaps "head".

*
You can't get testicles from a genderless bovine.

earle
*

Earle Jones

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Nov 30, 2003, 7:55:10 PM11/30/03
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In article
<Xns94418D5EDC3B78j...@ID-121946.user.dfncis.de>,
"Ted S." <fe...@bestweb.spam> wrote:

> Somebody claiming to be tomca...@yaNOSPAMhoo.com wrote in
> news:bq7vj1$oqp$1...@news1.radix.net:
>
> >Lots of professions have only one or two famous, the rest anonymous.
> >At Thanksgiving yesterday we were discussing the old "What's My Line"
> >and someone mentioned Bennett Cerf, the famous publisher. No one could
> >recall what Wally Cox was famous for.
>
> He was the voice of Underdog.
>
> (And wasn't he more famour for being on Hollywood Squares?)

*
Wally Cox was "Mister Peepers".

earle
*

Earle Jones

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Nov 30, 2003, 7:59:16 PM11/30/03
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In article <bq7vj1$oqp$1...@news1.radix.net>,
tomca...@yaNOSPAMhoo.com wrote:

What's My Line: John Daly was the moderator. Dorothy Kilgallen was a
perennial contestant, as was Bennett Cerf. Steve Allen and Jayne
Meadows (his wife) made regular appearances.

Wally Cox was "Mr. Peepers".

earle
*

gerson

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"Phil Carmody" wrote

> What do you view as the genderless singlular word for a bovine animal?
>

unglulate


Mark Brader

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Phil Carmody:

> > What do you view as the genderless singlular word for a bovine animal?

John Gerson:
> unglulate

But only *before* it's sent to the glu factory.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "... people are *always* doing stuff ...
m...@vex.net that I wish were typos" --Marcy Thompson

gerson

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Phil Carmody:
> > > What do you view as the genderless singlular word for a bovine animal?

John Gerson:
> > unglulate

> Mark Brader:


But only *before* it's sent to the glu factory.

Where it will be a late glu gnu


Phil Carmody

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Dec 1, 2003, 8:49:13 AM12/1/03
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Camel, horse, rhino and elephant too, alas.
So it appears you've come unstuck there. Groan, sorry.
I've seen some use "a bovine" as a noun, but that really doesn't
press my buttons.


Hmmm, presently it appears that "moo" might be the best term!


ObPuzzle: (what? me on topic? heaven forfend!)
What other animals are named, with a single word, after a sound.


Phil
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Ted S.

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Dec 1, 2003, 9:29:12 AM12/1/03
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Somebody claiming to be Phil Carmody <thefatphi...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote in news:87ptf8i...@nonospaz.fatphil.org:

>ObPuzzle: (what? me on topic? heaven forfend!)
>What other animals are named, with a single word, after a sound.

Whippoorwill, for one.

Keith Willoughby

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Dec 1, 2003, 10:34:58 AM12/1/03
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Phil Carmody wrote:

> ObPuzzle: (what? me on topic? heaven forfend!)
> What other animals are named, with a single word, after a sound.

Cuckoo. 'Owl' in Welsh is 'Gw^di-hw^'.

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Richard Schultz

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Dec 1, 2003, 12:14:31 PM12/1/03
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In rec.games.trivia Ted S. <fe...@bestweb.spam> wrote:
: Somebody claiming to be Phil Carmody <thefatphi...@yahoo.co.uk>
: wrote in news:87ptf8i...@nonospaz.fatphil.org:

:>ObPuzzle: (what? me on topic? heaven forfend!)
:>What other animals are named, with a single word, after a sound.
:
: Whippoorwill, for one.

Katydid, Pewit, and Chickadee for two, three, and four. Does rattlesnake
(or, colloquially, "rattler") count?

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Phil Carmody

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Dec 1, 2003, 12:58:07 PM12/1/03
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Keith Willoughby <ke...@flat222.org> writes:

> Phil Carmody wrote:
>
> > ObPuzzle: (what? me on topic? heaven forfend!)
> > What other animals are named, with a single word, after a sound.
>
> Cuckoo. 'Owl' in Welsh is 'Gw^di-hw^'.

I see the birds have the property in spades.

I had "cricket" in mind when I asked the question.

I didn't say "English" deliberately, just to see what else was
offered -- thanks for the Welsh owl!

Errol Cavit

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"Phil Carmody" <thefatphi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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<snip>

>
>
> Hmmm, presently it appears that "moo" might be the best term!
>
>
> ObPuzzle: (what? me on topic? heaven forfend!)
> What other animals are named, with a single word, after a sound.
>
Several New Zealand birds

kiwi
kaka
kea
morepork (which isn't its Maori name)

there are more that I can't think of just now.

gerson

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Dec 2, 2003, 6:20:00 AM12/2/03
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"gerson", that is I wrote

> No. 6, could that be Rudolf Nureyev ?

Is it ?

John


gerson

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Dec 2, 2003, 6:35:54 AM12/2/03
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"gerson" I, quoted, or wrote,

Phil Carmody:
What do you view as the genderless singlular word for a bovine animal?

John Gerson:
unglulate

Mark Brader:
But only *before* it's sent to the glu factory.

John Gerson:


Where it will be a late glu gnu

[]
Did anybody notice there was an extra "g", like for anyone
doing anagrams, that there were two "g"s ?

If they had, and they'd said so, I'd've said

! "it's just one of those late gnu's letters"

Or in the singlular
"an extra gnu's letter"

obPuzzle ?

(looking back)
Did Mr Brader see that Phil Carmody wrote

... "singlular" ... , or not ?


John Gerson
Why does it always rain at the end of a long drought ?-:)


ma...@mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk

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Dec 2, 2003, 7:44:29 AM12/2/03
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In article <uO_yb.36368$aT....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,

"gerson" <ger...@bigpond.net.au> writes:
>Why does it always rain at the end of a long drought ?-:)

I don't know. Is water wet?

Derek Holt.

Gareth Owen

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Dec 2, 2003, 8:30:37 AM12/2/03
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"gerson" <ger...@bigpond.net.au> writes:

No. Its the film "Billy Elliot"
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Cat: He feeds me, cares for me, heals me when I'm sick, *I* must be a god!

Ted S.

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Dec 2, 2003, 9:39:33 AM12/2/03
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Somebody claiming to be "gerson" <ger...@bigpond.net.au> wrote in
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>Why does it always rain at the end of a long drought ?-:)

At the end of a long drought in Antarctica, it would snow, not rain. :-p

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Phil Carmody

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Dec 2, 2003, 10:26:36 PM12/2/03
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"gerson" <ger...@bigpond.net.au> writes:

> "gerson" I, quoted, or wrote,
>
> Phil Carmody:
> What do you view as the genderless singlular word for a bovine animal?
>
> John Gerson:
> unglulate

> obPuzzle ?
>
> (looking back)
> Did Mr Brader see that Phil Carmody wrote
>
> ... "singlular" ... , or not ?

I'll 'fess up. I noticed my mistake after posting. But as I have a
brain like a sieve, when reading your reply I had forgotten my own
mistake. Don't I feel the fool now!

Phil
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gerson

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Dec 3, 2003, 3:11:29 AM12/3/03
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"Phil Carmody" wrote

> I'll 'fess up. I noticed my mistake after posting. But as I have a
> brain like a sieve, when reading your reply I had forgotten my own
> mistake. Don't I feel the fool now!

me too :-)

or if you do, I do
:-(

Matthew Russotto

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Dec 3, 2003, 2:25:26 PM12/3/03
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In article <Xns9440A71BDA2958j...@ID-121946.user.dfncis.de>,

Ted S. <fe...@bestweb.spam> wrote:
>Somebody claiming to be Phil Carmody <thefatphi...@yahoo.co.uk>
>wrote in news:877k1ma...@nonospaz.fatphil.org:
>
>>>>bollocks. cow probably.
>>>
>>>Cows have bollocks? :-)
>>
>>What do you view as the genderless singlular word for a bovine animal?
>
>Steer? Or perhaps "head".

Steers, like oxen (in the more common sense of the term), are castrated
males.

--
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of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.

Jeffrey Turner

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Dec 15, 2003, 8:50:50 AM12/15/03
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Phil Carmody wrote:
> "Ted S." <fe...@bestweb.spam> writes:
>>Somebody claiming to be Phil Carmody <thefatphi...@yahoo.co.uk>
>>wrote in news:87k75na...@nonospaz.fatphil.org:
>>
>>
>>>>9. What is the principal ingredient in the US / Canadian delicacy
>>>>called
>>>> Mountain Oysters or Prairie Oysters?
>>>
>>>bollocks. cow probably.
>>
>>Cows have bollocks? :-)
>
>
> What do you view as the genderless singlular word for a bovine animal?

Didn't this engender a lot of discussion not all that long ago? Maybe
one of Brader's puzzles? I seem to recall a good case being made for
a beef (plural beeves).

--Jeff

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