Camera follow-up
Jane Galt
But this group is too infested with communist types to have a viable
discussion about photo topics.
--
- Jane Galt
me
wrote:
>FYI, for the few friendlies here, I decided to order the SD4000IS.
>
>But this group is too infested with communist types to have a viable
>discussion about photo topics.
Don't be afraid to use a kill-file and recognize the names /size of
post and language used be the resident to quickly pass by.
Gilford Brimly
Don't feel too bad. These usenet photo forums have been overran by those
that live here as a social gathering for years now, the vast majority of
them having never even used a camera. They just pretend to know something
about them. So you won't be missing out much about getting any valid advice
nor valid feedback from them. (Even when it comes to political issues.)
Even if they do actually own a camera you need only see some of the sample
crapshots they post to know they don't know shit about cameras and
photography.
Cool deal on the camera choice. Mostly because this means I won't have to
answer all your questions on how to use CHDK now. :-) (Interestingly, CHDK
was just featured on a news-spot on CBS's "The Early Show" this past week,
when they interviewed the latest person to use CHDKed cameras for yet
another 25-mile-high balloon aerial photography event.)
With the SD4000's f/2.0 lens and back-lit sensor, I checked out some
reviews online. It seems to be a pretty decent performer in such a small
package. It sounds like a perfect pocket-camera for your needs. Even the
ISO3200 images I've seen online look useful if you applied a little Fourier
transform to them to tighten up the softness a bit. (Using utilities like
"Focus Magic"; freeware UnShake <http://www.zen147963.zen.co.uk/> (slow
java programming but very functional for tightening focus and for fixing
camera shake); the RL Deconvolution tool now built into RAWTherapee's
donation-ware (found under sharpening method options); or the overpriced
and less capable Optipix's "Refocus" plugin.) What most of the trolls in
these groups don't realize about sensor noise from high ISOs and from their
unending senseless pixel-peeping: when printed most sensor noise completely
disappears--completely lost in the printer's dithering algorithms. They
just don't "get it".
Paul Heslop
--
Paul (we break easy)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/
Jane Galt
> With the SD4000's f/2.0 lens and back-lit sensor, I checked out some
> reviews online. It seems to be a pretty decent performer in such a small
> package. It sounds like a perfect pocket-camera for your needs. Even the
> ISO3200 images I've seen online look useful if you applied a little Fourier
> transform to them to tighten up the softness a bit. (Using utilities like
> "Focus Magic"; freeware UnShake <http://www.zen147963.zen.co.uk/> (slow
> java programming but very functional for tightening focus and for fixing
> camera shake); the RL Deconvolution tool now built into RAWTherapee's
> donation-ware (found under sharpening method options); or the overpriced
> and less capable Optipix's "Refocus" plugin.)
Hmm, thanks.
I missed what could have been an amazing shot this week.
I was driving near downtown Denver on Colfax, in front of the Auraria Campus
and as I was stopping for a light, the person with me said that she saw a
couple of guys fighting to the left of me, across the street. As I turned, it
could have been an amazing shot, the guy who lost was walking across the
street towards us in the crosswalk, and the guy who beat him was standing
there staring like a bully at him, with fists clenched. The guy who lost had
his shirt stretched down to his waist in front and blood all over it. It
would have been a powerful photo, but I was driving and had JUST stopped at
the light and didn't have the time to grab a camera from my purse, start it
up, lower the car window and snap it.
--
- Jane Galt
Jane Galt
> Jane Galt wrote:
>>
>> FYI, for the few friendlies here, I decided to order the SD4000IS.
>>
>> But this group is too infested with communist types to have a viable
>> discussion about photo topics.
>>
> heh, communist types.
>
If the shoe fits, dont deny it.
--
- Jane Galt
John McWilliams
See?? If you had a DSLR around your neck, you would have gotten the shot.
--
john mcwilliams
John McWilliams
We have a couple of persistent pests, incorrectly called trolls, an
occasional real troll wanders by, but by and large even old Joe McC
wouldn't have bothered.
--
john mcwilliams
Jane Galt
LOL Not that it would interfere with my paid work or anything.
--
- Jane Galt
Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember Jane Galt <Jan...@gulch.xyz> saying
something like:
>FYI, for the few friendlies here, I decided to order the SD4000IS.
>
>But this group is too infested with communist types to have a viable
>discussion about photo topics.
You liberal pinko fag-hag!
Paul Heslop
Gilford Brimly
<paul....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>Jane Galt wrote:
>>
>> Paul Heslop <paul....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote :
>>
>> > Jane Galt wrote:
>> >>
>> >> FYI, for the few friendlies here, I decided to order the SD4000IS.
>> >>
>> >> But this group is too infested with communist types to have a viable
>> >> discussion about photo topics.
>> >>
>> > heh, communist types.
>> >
>>
>> If the shoe fits, dont deny it.
>>
>Communist types? um, what does that have to do with cameras?
It means, since you are so ignorant and inept, that anyone who prescribes
to any totalitarian system where they not only believe in, but encourage,
others to make their decisions for them, that those people's opinions can't
be trusted because they are incapable of thinking for themselves. (You
know, people just like you.) Whether it be for a camera or a government,
they are servile ass-kissing idiots who cannot think nor reason for
themselves.
Having said that, be reminded that true communistic cultures as existed
with Native Americans and other tribes around the world in the past, are
not the pre-existing concept nor modern definition of "communism". Where
totalitarianism and dictatorship are more aligned to the concept. True
communism is a wonderful thing, total freedom for all, no leaders, no
rulers, each person's opinion having equal weight, etc. But humanity is not
ready for true communism. They've not evolved enough yet. And most likely
never will. There's that "greed gene" that they have yet to identify and
discard. There merest hint of greed by even one individual will always
destroy true communism in an instant.
Paul Heslop
and yet, oh gobby one, whoever you are, none of that has anything to
do with photography. Might as well have said too many
black/red/yellow/small/fat/thin people. If you want to talk about
ignorance then surely this sort of blanket statement is the problem?
Who the hell says we 'encourage others to make our decisions for us'
have you seen the people running the UK at the moment? Communists?
hah.
DanP
By your logic Pablo Picasso work is all rubbish.
In case you wonder, my vote always went to the right parties.
DanP
Robert Coe
wrote:
: Jane Galt wrote:
: >
: > FYI, for the few friendlies here, I decided to order the SD4000IS.
: >
: > But this group is too infested with communist types to have a viable
: > discussion about photo topics.
: >
: heh, communist types.
Well, consider the source. Jane appears to have named herself after a
character in one of Ayn Rand's ultra-capitalist screeds. Everything looks
yellow to a jaundiced eye.
Not that the group actually is infested with communist types, but that
wouldn't preclude a viable discussion about photo topics. After all, the
Exakta was made in East Germany. ;^)
Bob
Robert Coe
<gilfor...@spamless.com> wrote:
: On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 08:44:12 +0100, Paul Heslop
: <paul....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
:
: >Jane Galt wrote:
: >>
: >> Paul Heslop <paul....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote :
: >>
: >> > Jane Galt wrote:
: >> >>
: >> >> FYI, for the few friendlies here, I decided to order the SD4000IS.
: >> >>
: >> >> But this group is too infested with communist types to have a viable
: >> >> discussion about photo topics.
: >> >>
: >> > heh, communist types.
: >> >
: >>
: >> If the shoe fits, dont deny it.
: >>
: >Communist types? um, what does that have to do with cameras?
:
: It means, since you are so ignorant and inept, that anyone who prescribes
: to any totalitarian system where they not only believe in, but encourage,
: others to make their decisions for them, that those people's opinions can't
: be trusted because they are incapable of thinking for themselves. (You
: know, people just like you.) Whether it be for a camera or a government,
: they are servile ass-kissing idiots who cannot think nor reason for
: themselves.
Good description. In the U.S., the type is personified by those who support
the "Tea Party" movement and who voted for George Bush.
Bob
Robert Coe
: On Jun 26, 5:28�pm, Jane Galt <Jan...@gulch.xyz> wrote:
: > FYI, for the few friendlies here, I decided to order the SD4000IS.
: >
: > But this group is too infested with communist types to have a
: > viable discussion about photo topics.
: By your logic Pablo Picasso work is all rubbish.
That's a poor analogy. Pablo Picasso's work *is* all rubbish.
Bob
Dudley Hanks
"Robert Coe" <b...@1776.COM> wrote in message
news:sune26h2rv3f817js...@4ax.com...
To Jane, you have to be far right of a Republican to avoid the "communist"
label...
Take Care,
Dudley
tony cooper
One wonders if any of the parts used by the makers of the SD34000IS
were made in Communist China. The owners of most cameras purchase
something imported from China, whether it be camera bag or accessory.
I'm sure Ms Galt is a Communist sympathizer and supports that evil
regime with some of her purchases. She should be pilloried by a
Congressional committee.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
Pete
And agree with everything she says.
--
Pete
tony cooper
<savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>How about the Diego Riviera, Rockefeller fiasco, where political
>interpretation overwrote artistic interpretation.
>(The only problem being that Beck thinks Rockefeller was the communist.)
Glenn Beck? The presence of "Beck" and "thinks" in the same sentence
is oxymoronic.
Dave Cohen
Of course that camera, as with a number of others was conceived and
built prior to wwii.
As for the communist bit, I assume our Jane resides on the US side of
the pond where they wouldn't know a communist if they woke up in bed
with one and know even less the philosophical basis of the movement.
In fact, most can't distinguish between the terms communist, fascist,
atheist, democracy, capitalist etc. and cavalierly throw these terms
around to those with whom they disagree, intending such as an insult
rather rather than any true meaning of the terms. But who cares.
Paul Heslop
didn't Bush talk everyone into giving up rights for 'the war on
terror'?
Paul Heslop
:O) I thought she was saying that we are all part of a commune, like
we as a group are too entrenched to be of any use to her.
Paul Heslop
David Ruether
"Dave Cohen" <us...@example.net> wrote in message
news:i07vf9$j4n$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> As for the communist bit, I assume our Jane resides on the US side of the pond where they wouldn't know a communist if they woke
> up in bed with one and know even less the philosophical basis of the movement.
> In fact, most can't distinguish between the terms communist, fascist, atheist, democracy, capitalist etc. and cavalierly throw
> these terms around to those with whom they disagree, intending such as an insult rather rather than any true meaning of the terms.
> But who cares.
How true, and, how true...! 8^)
I don't know why Americans are so often so stupid about politics, but,
as with, "I don't know anything about art, but I know what I like", many
Americans are often similar with politics, making their uninformed
comments about it useless (although potentially dangerous...).
--DR
Peter
news:3PJVn.7809$Z6.2133@edtnps82...
Coming from her, the "communist" label is a badge of honor
--
Peter
Jane Galt
> It means, since you are so ignorant and inept, that anyone who prescribes
> to any totalitarian system where they not only believe in, but encourage,
> others to make their decisions for them, that those people's opinions can't
> be trusted because they are incapable of thinking for themselves. (You
> know, people just like you.) Whether it be for a camera or a government,
> they are servile ass-kissing idiots who cannot think nor reason for
> themselves.
>
> Having said that, be reminded that true communistic cultures as existed
> with Native Americans and other tribes around the world in the past, are
> not the pre-existing concept nor modern definition of "communism". Where
> totalitarianism and dictatorship are more aligned to the concept. True
> communism is a wonderful thing, total freedom for all, no leaders, no
> rulers, each person's opinion having equal weight, etc. But humanity is not
> ready for true communism. They've not evolved enough yet. And most likely
> never will. There's that "greed gene" that they have yet to identify and
> discard. There merest hint of greed by even one individual will always
> destroy true communism in an instant.
I dont even know if those labels accurately describe what you're advocating.
I see the struggle as having always been between self ownership of our own
lives and individual rights, and collective ownership of our lives and
forced-collectivism.
Those are objective standards that strip away all the misused labels.
--
- Jane Galt
Peter
news:i0847l$ed8$1...@ruby.cit.cornell.edu...
This is a very frightening indicator of the level of our ignorance:
That is what makes the tea party movement and the extreme right so popular.
Through oversimplification, they eliminate the need for thinking and factual
analysis.
--
Peter
Peter
news:2010062711184346501-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom...
> On 2010-06-27 08:54:13 -0700, tony cooper <tony_co...@earthlink.net>
>
>> On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 08:07:20 -0700, Savageduck
>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2010-06-27 07:48:19 -0700, Robert Coe <b...@1776.COM> said:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 05:15:48 -0700 (PDT), DanP <dan....@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> : On Jun 26, 5:28 pm, Jane Galt <Jan...@gulch.xyz> wrote:
>>>> : > FYI, for the few friendlies here, I decided to order the SD4000IS.
>>>> : >
>>>> : > But this group is too infested with communist types to have a
>>>> : > viable discussion about photo topics.
>>>> :
>>>> : By your logic Pablo Picasso work is all rubbish.
>>>>
>>>> That's a poor analogy. Pablo Picasso's work *is* all rubbish.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>
>>> How about the Diego Riviera, Rockefeller fiasco, where political
>>> interpretation overwrote artistic interpretation.
>>> (The only problem being that Beck thinks Rockefeller was the communist.)
>>
>> Glenn Beck? The presence of "Beck" and "thinks" in the same sentence
>> is oxymoronic.
>
>
I would have said: pontificates to fatten his wallet.
--
Peter
Peter
news:Xns9DA48444311...@216.196.97.142...
Perhaps the posting of shots from the polder are appropriate. Do you
understand the polder concept. It has a common root with civilization.
> Those are objective standards that strip away all the misused labels.
Spoken from the person who freely misuses labels
--
Peter
John McWilliams
>
> For the most part, the terms "communist", "socialist", "leftist",
> "fascist", "elitist", etc. etc. are epithets ignorantly thrown about by
> knee-jerk reactionaries. They might as well use, "bastard" or "SOB"
> because their ignorance of the true meaning of the words makes the
> insult lame.
Yes, and they do! Ignorance and churlishness at the extremes of both
left and right are the rule, not the exception. Please note I say
"extremes". (Not underlining for you, Duck, but a few others.)
--
john mcwilliams
Paul Heslop
and still have nowt to do with photography
Paul Heslop
oh, okay I shall wear it with pride :O)
Allen
"bidnesses", especially corporations, can do no wrong? Incidentally, I
have found a good place in my killfile for "Jane Galt", whoever
he/she/it may be.
Allen
Dudley Hanks
"Peter" <pete...@nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message
news:4c279592$0$5557$8f2e...@news.shared-secrets.com...
Indeed, she does seem to apply it to only those who think...
Take Care,
Dudley
Dudley Hanks
"Allen" <all...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:X5adnQEsfeqjVrrR...@giganews.com...
Yep, she's in mine too, keeping LOL and Navas company...
Take Care,
Dudley
Dudley Hanks
"John McWilliams" <jp...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:i08eor$pj7$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Yep, if you go far enough left or right, you end up at the same place,
justified by somewhat different rationales, but the same place
nonetheless...
Take Care,
Dudley
Jane Galt
> On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:56:54 +0100, Paul Heslop
> <paul....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>: Jane Galt wrote:
>: >
>: > FYI, for the few friendlies here, I decided to order the SD4000IS.
>: >
>: > But this group is too infested with communist types to have a viable
>: > discussion about photo topics.
>: >
>: heh, communist types.
>
> Well, consider the source. Jane appears to have named herself after a
> character in one of Ayn Rand's ultra-capitalist screeds. Everything
> looks yellow to a jaundiced eye.
Smear people who believe in freedom. Very nice.
> Not that the group actually is infested with communist types, but that
> wouldn't preclude a viable discussion about photo topics. After all, the
> Exakta was made in East Germany. ;^)
The what? LOL
--
- Jane Galt
Jane Galt
Oh yeah, us Americans are all stupid hillbillies, except of course for the
discerning "compassionate" marxists among us. LOL
--
- Jane Galt
Jane Galt
> As a 61 year old atheist, American, I have known many non-communist
> socialists, but I have only personally known one affirmed
> communist/Marxist/socialist. He was the black sheep of a prominent and
> wealthy South African family. He headed the Chilean radio service under
> Allende, and was lucky to get away with his head after the 1973 CIA
> supported coup which backed that fine upstanding conservative right
> winger, Pinochet.
>
> The last I heard of him, some 15 years ago, he had assumed a bit of a
> capitalist mantle, running an oyster farming operating on an island off
> the Chilean coast.
>
> For the most part, the terms "communist", "socialist", "leftist",
> "fascist", "elitist", etc. etc. are epithets ignorantly thrown about by
> knee-jerk reactionaries. They might as well use, "bastard" or "SOB"
> because their ignorance of the true meaning of the words makes the
> insult lame.
>
This is like shooting Savage Ducks in a barrel. LOL!
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/
" But what about Obama’s secret political life? It turns out that Obama’s
childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist.
In his books, Obama admits attending “socialist conferences” and coming
into contact with Marxist literature."
"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The
more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos.
The Marxist professors and structural feminists." - Barack Obama
"Oooh. Van Jones, alright! So, Van Jones. We were so delighted to be able
to recruit him into the White House. We were watching him, uh, really, he’s
not that old, for as long as he’s been active out in Oakland. And all the
creative ideas he has. And so now, we have captured that. And we have all
that energy in the White House." - Valerie Jarrett, senior advisor and
assistant to the president for Public Engagement and Intergovernmental
Affairs for the Obama administration.
Van Jones:
"I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down
on April 29th," he said. "By August, I was a communist.
"I met all these young radical people of color - I mean really radical:
communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a
part of.' I spent the next 10 years of my life working with a lot of those
people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary," he said." ( 2002 )
"I'm willing to forego the cheap satisfaction of the radical pose for the
deep satisfaction of radical ends." -- Van Jones, 2009, after he was
transferred out of the White House when the above statements were exposed
on the Glenn Beck Program.
Note "redistributive", as in "redistribution of wealth":
Barack Obama, in 2001:
You know, if you look at the victories and failures of the civil-rights
movement, and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it
succeeded was to vest formal rights in previously dispossessed peoples. So
that I would now have the right to vote, I would now be able to sit at a
lunch counter and order and as long as I could pay for it, I’d be okay, but
the Supreme Court never entered into the issues of redistribution of
wealth, and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in
this society.
And uh, to that extent, as radical as I think people tried to characterize
the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the
essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the
Constitution — at least as it’s been interpreted, and Warren Court
interpreted it in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a
charter of negative liberties: [It] says what the states can’t do to you,
says what the federal government can’t do to you, but it doesn’t say what
the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf.
And that hasn’t shifted, and one of the, I think, the tragedies of the
civil-rights movement was because the civil-rights movement became so
court-focused, uh, I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the
political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are
able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring
about redistributive change. And in some ways we still suffer from that.
A caller then helpfully asks: “The gentleman made the point that the Warren
Court wasn’t terribly radical. My question is (with economic changes)… my
question is, is it too late for that kind of reparative work, economically,
and is that the appropriate place for reparative economic work to change
place?”
Obama replies:
You know, I’m not optimistic about bringing about major redistributive
change through the courts. The institution just isn’t structured that way.
[snip] You start getting into all sorts of separation of powers issues, you
know, in terms of the court monitoring or engaging in a process that
essentially is administrative and takes a lot of time. You know, the court
is just not very good at it, and politically, it’s just very hard to
legitimize opinions from the court in that regard."
Want more?
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the
name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program
until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how
it happened." – Norman Thomas, Socialist Party presidential candidate 1936-
1968, co-founder of the American Civil Liberties Union
"We can’t expect the American people to jump from Capitalism to Communism,
but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of
Socialism UNTIL they awaken one day to find they HAVE COMMUNISM." -- Nikita
Kruschev, 1959
"There is no such thing as a liberal...There hasn't been for a long, long
time. I never use the word and you shouldn't either - nobody should.
'Liberal' is what socialists call themselves when they don't want you to
understand that they plan to take away your rights, your property, and
eventually your life." -- Alexander Hope
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/guideDesc.asp?catid=115&type=issue
--
- Jane Galt
Jane Galt
http://vivirlatino.com/2007/06/26/cameron-diazs-purse-pisses-off-
peruvians.php
Cameron Diaz’s purse pisses off Peruvians
1:52 pm By Jennifer Woodard Maderazo · Celebrities|Fashion|Peru|Politics
26 Jun 2007
diazperu-cp-201618.jpgCameron Diaz is saying sorry today for a cultural faux
pas related to her choice of purses. Last week she was photographed at Machu
Pichu sporting a Maoist-themed bag which stirred up all kinds of emotions:
The voice of Princess Fiona in the animated “Shrek” films visited the
Incan city of Machu Picchu in Peru’s Andes on Friday carrying an olive green
bag emblazoned with a red star and the words “Serve the People” printed in
Chinese, perhaps Chinese Communist leader Mao Zedong’s most famous political
slogan.
The bags are marketed as fashion accessories in some world capitals, but
in Peru the slogan evokes memories of the Maoist Shining Path insurgency that
fought the government in the 1980s and early 1990s in a bloody conflict that
left nearly 70,000 people dead.
Not even to mention the fact that Mao killed 70 million chinese.
Jane Galt
> Pete wrote:
>>
>> On 2010-06-27 16:07:43 +0100, Dudley Hanks said:
>>
>> > "Robert Coe" <b...@1776.COM> wrote in message
>> > news:sune26h2rv3f817js...@4ax.com...
>> >> On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:56:54 +0100, Paul Heslop
>> >> <paul....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> : Jane Galt wrote:
>> >> : >
>> >> : > FYI, for the few friendlies here, I decided to order the
>> >> : > SD4000IS.
>> >> : >
>> >> : > But this group is too infested with communist types to have a
>> >> : > viable discussion about photo topics.
>> >> : >
>> >> : heh, communist types.
>> >>
>> >> Well, consider the source. Jane appears to have named herself after
>> >> a character in one of Ayn Rand's ultra-capitalist screeds.
>> >> Everything looks yellow to a jaundiced eye.
>> >>
>> >> Not that the group actually is infested with communist types, but
>> >> that wouldn't preclude a viable discussion about photo topics. After
>> >> all, the Exakta was made in East Germany. ;^)
>> >>
>> >> Bob
>> >
>> > To Jane, you have to be far right of a Republican to avoid the
>> > "communist" label...
>>
>> And agree with everything she says.
>>
> that's the magic answer!
>
>
Very funny guys, but in fact it's the socialist left that's now pushing for
the "fairness doctrine" so they can shut down the free speech of anyone who
disagrees with them. ( like for example Glenn Beck )
90% of the media leans socialist, yet Fox News having free speech is like
pouring water on the wicked witch to you types.
--
- Jane Galt
Jane Galt
>> Glenn Beck? The presence of "Beck" and "thinks" in the same sentence
>> is oxymoronic.
>
> I should have said, deluded into pontificating.
>
>
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2541446/posts
THE ANATOMY OF A SMEAR:
How the Left is fighting to silence Glenn Beck
...
Fascinating article, describes these guys to a T.
Robert Coe
: Not to mention the pervasive communist-socialist influence in Hollywood:
I'm not sure what point you're making here, Jane, but as a committed
libertarian, you've gotta stand up for Ms Díaz. Free Speech, ya know.
Bob
Robert Coe
: Robert Coe <b...@1776.COM> wrote :
:
: > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:56:54 +0100, Paul Heslop
: > <paul....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
: >: Jane Galt wrote:
: >: >
: >: > FYI, for the few friendlies here, I decided to order the SD4000IS.
: >: >
: >: > But this group is too infested with communist types to have a viable
: >: > discussion about photo topics.
: >: >
: >: heh, communist types.
: >
: > Well, consider the source. Jane appears to have named herself after a
: > character in one of Ayn Rand's ultra-capitalist screeds. Everything
: > looks yellow to a jaundiced eye.
:
: Smear people who believe in freedom. Very nice.
You obviously think I'm one of your "communist types". This may come as a
shock to you; but given the demographics of Usenet, the odds are that I've
been a registered Republican for longer than you've been alive.
: > Not that the group actually is infested with communist types, but that
: > wouldn't preclude a viable discussion about photo topics. After all, the
: > Exakta was made in East Germany. ;^)
:
: The what? LOL
I'm sure none of us are surprised that you don't know what it was.
Bob
Robert Coe
: Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote :
Barack Obama is a centerist who would have made a good Republican. At an
earlier time in American history (various earlier times, actually) he might
well have been one. The intellectual bankruptcy of the current Republican
party, which pains me deeply since I am a Republican, is illustrated by the
absurdity of the proposition that Obama could ever choose to be a Republican
today.
Bob
John Navas
<Xns9DA36A8965E...@216.196.97.142>, Jane Galt
<Jan...@gulch.xyz> wrote:
>FYI, for the few friendlies here, I decided to order the SD4000IS.
I think you'll be delighted with it.
>But this group is too infested with communist types to have a viable
>discussion about photo topics.
Filtering out the worst of them makes it a fairly tolerable experience.
--
Best regards,
John
Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer,
it makes you a dSLR owner.
"The single most important component of a camera
is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
Dudley Hanks
>
> Bob
It's only free speech when you say what Jane wants you to ...
Take Care,
Dudley
Ray Fischer
>Paul Heslop <paul....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote :
>> Pete wrote:
>>> On 2010-06-27 16:07:43 +0100, Dudley Hanks said:
>>> > To Jane, you have to be far right of a Republican to avoid the
>>> > "communist" label...
>>>
>>> And agree with everything she says.
>>>
>> that's the magic answer!
>
>Very funny guys, but in fact it's the socialist left that's now pushing for
Rightards use the word "socialist" but don't even know what it means.
>the "fairness doctrine" so they can shut down the free speech of anyone who
>disagrees with them. ( like for example Glenn Beck )
Rightard rule #1: lie, lie again, lie more, lie about lying.
>90% of the media leans socialist,
The truth has a well-known liberal bias.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>Not to mention the pervasive communist-socialist influence in Hollywood:
Kook.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>Robert Coe <b...@1776.COM> wrote :
>> On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:56:54 +0100, Paul Heslop
>> <paul....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>: Jane Galt wrote:
>>: >
>>: > FYI, for the few friendlies here, I decided to order the SD4000IS.
>>: >
>>: > But this group is too infested with communist types to have a viable
>>: > discussion about photo topics.
>>: >
>>: heh, communist types.
>>
>> Well, consider the source. Jane appears to have named herself after a
>> character in one of Ayn Rand's ultra-capitalist screeds. Everything
>> looks yellow to a jaundiced eye.
>
>Smear people who believe in freedom. Very nice.
But you don't believe in freedom. You believe in having everybody do
as you say.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Jane Galt
> and still have nowt to do with photography
That used to be called a "scratched record".
--
- Jane Galt
Jane Galt
>>
>> Coming from her, the "communist" label is a badge of honor
>>
>> --
>> Peter
>
> oh, okay I shall wear it with pride :O)
Figures.
--
- Jane Galt
Jane Galt
> I wonder if she is planning to apologize to BP, a la Joe Barton, to whom
> "bidnesses", especially corporations, can do no wrong? Incidentally, I
> have found a good place in my killfile for "Jane Galt", whoever
> he/she/it may be.
> Allen
I would only apologize for the thuggery of our government, and their
threatening BP to come up with $2 billion for distribution by our government
thugs to anyone who wants some of it, namely their political friends. ( watch
the fraud now! )
But BP is liable legally, in court for their initiation of force against the
American people.
Personally I'd like to see their upper management tarred and feathered, using
oil from their spill. ( just a fantasy of course LOL )
--
- Jane Galt
Jane Galt
That the majority in Hollywood are devout marxists.
> but as a committed
> libertarian, you've gotta stand up for Ms Díaz. Free Speech, ya know.
Not a libertarian, an Objectivist, and of course. She's free to piss off
the people of any country she wants.
--
- Jane Galt
Jane Galt
> On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:08:42 -0500, Jane Galt <Jan...@gulch.xyz> wrote:
>: Robert Coe <b...@1776.COM> wrote :
>:
>: > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:56:54 +0100, Paul Heslop
>: > <paul....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>: >: Jane Galt wrote:
>: >: >
>: >: > FYI, for the few friendlies here, I decided to order the SD4000IS.
>: >: >
>: >: > But this group is too infested with communist types to have a viable
>: >: > discussion about photo topics.
>: >: >
>: >: heh, communist types.
>: >
>: > Well, consider the source. Jane appears to have named herself after a
>: > character in one of Ayn Rand's ultra-capitalist screeds. Everything
>: > looks yellow to a jaundiced eye.
>:
>: Smear people who believe in freedom. Very nice.
>
> You obviously think I'm one of your "communist types". This may come as a
> shock to you; but given the demographics of Usenet, the odds are that I've
> been a registered Republican for longer than you've been alive.
What would it have to do with demographics? Are you, or not?
And who cares? "Republicrat" is a meaningless term because it's not
objectively defined. You could be a conservative or a leninist and still be
under the "big tent" of that undefined party.
--
- Jane Galt
Jane Galt
> On 2010-06-27 18:18:08 -0700, Jane Galt <Jan...@gulch.xyz> said:
>
>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote :
>>
>>
>>> As a 61 year old atheist, American, I have known many non-communist
>>> socialists, but I have only personally known one affirmed
>>> communist/Marxist/socialist. He was the black sheep of a prominent and
>>> wealthy South African family. He headed the Chilean radio service under
>>> Allende, and was lucky to get away with his head after the 1973 CIA
>>> supported coup which backed that fine upstanding conservative right
>>> winger, Pinochet.
>>>
>>> The last I heard of him, some 15 years ago, he had assumed a bit of a
>>> capitalist mantle, running an oyster farming operating on an island off
>>> the Chilean coast.
>>>
>>> For the most part, the terms "communist", "socialist", "leftist",
>>> "fascist", "elitist", etc. etc. are epithets ignorantly thrown about by
>>> knee-jerk reactionaries. They might as well use, "bastard" or "SOB"
>>> because their ignorance of the true meaning of the words makes the
>>> insult lame.
>>>
>>
>>
>> This is like shooting Savage Ducks in a barrel. LOL!
>
> ...and all I said was, I only ever personally knew one real
> communist/Marxist. They might exist as members of the US Communist
> party, but I don't know, or care to know any of those folks, and I am
> certainly not a fellow traveller.
Ok, gentler - socialist then?
>> http://www.cpusa.org/
>
> Realistically the US Communist Party is a non-starter in the US, with
> little general appeal, and that includes ittle appeal for me.
>>
>> http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/
>
> ...and AIM is an unbiased source? That is funny considering their
> unbelievable slogan, "For Fairness, Balance, and Accuracy in News
> Reporting." Now where have we heard that platitudinous lie before?
> "Faux Nouvelles" perhaps?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2541446/posts
Smear on dude.
>> < Le Snip>
>
>> http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/guideDesc.asp?catid=115&type=issue
>
> Discover The Networks, another lauded Beck source. Enough said
> regarding their unbiased opinion.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2541446/posts
Smear on dude.
> Ultimately all you have established is, you are up to your waist in
> this reactionary sludge, it has polluted your ability to think
> critically, and you have not been able to give us an original thought
> yet.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2541446/posts
Smear on dude.
--
- Jane Galt
Jane Galt
> Barack Obama is a centerist who would have made a good Republican.
ROFLMAO!
--
- Jane Galt
Jane Galt
> Never be too presumptious of guessing someone's political leadings,
> without knowlege of that person's history, and voting record. You will
> be inveriably wrong, as you have been with many of the contributors to
> this group.
>
>>
>>
>>>> http://www.cpusa.org/
>>>
>>> Realistically the US Communist Party is a non-starter in the US, with
>>> little general appeal, and that includes ittle appeal for me.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/
>>>
>>> ...and AIM is an unbiased source? That is funny considering their
>>> unbelievable slogan, "For Fairness, Balance, and Accuracy in News
>>> Reporting." Now where have we heard that platitudinous lie before?
>>> "Faux Nouvelles" perhaps?
>>
>> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2541446/posts
>> Smear on dude.
>>
>>>> < Le Snip>
>>>
>>>> http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/guideDesc.asp?catid=115&type=issue
>>>
>>> Discover The Networks, another lauded Beck source. Enough said
>>> regarding their unbiased opinion.
>>
>> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2541446/posts
>> Smear on dude.
>>
>>> Ultimately all you have established is, you are up to your waist in
>>> this reactionary sludge, it has polluted your ability to think
>>> critically, and you have not been able to give us an original thought
>>> yet.
>>
>> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2541446/posts
>> Smear on dude.
>
> Again, the source of your information certainly has its agenda, and has
> a bias which has you hanging off the right edge of the cliff. Your lack
> of original thought is telling.
>
Broken record. I suppose your side doesnt have an agenda. LOL Come one now.
My agenda is inalienable individual rights and self ownership. What's
yours?
--
- Jane Galt
Ray Fischer
Ray Fischer
>Allen <all...@austin.rr.com> wrote :
>
>> I wonder if she is planning to apologize to BP, a la Joe Barton, to whom
>> "bidnesses", especially corporations, can do no wrong? Incidentally, I
>> have found a good place in my killfile for "Jane Galt", whoever
>> he/she/it may be.
>> Allen
>
>I would only apologize for the thuggery of our government, and their
>threatening BP to come up with $2 billion for distribution by our government
>thugs to anyone who wants some of it, namely their political friends. ( watch
>the fraud now! )
Are you insane or just a shameless liar?
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Dudley Hanks
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4c2830a0$0$1584$742e...@news.sonic.net...
I always find it EXTREMELY funny when people accuse Hollywood execs of being
Marxists. Obviously, Jane never read what Marx said about profit...
Either that, or the "Marxist" Hollywood execs missed Karl's memo...
Take Care,
Dudley
rwalker
<savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>Why would I profess any personal agenda in a photo newsgroup? I can
>shine a light on stupid rationalizing from time to time. Sometimes that
>light falls on me, sometimes someone else.
I've already sent this Ayn Rand ditto head to my kill file.
Paul Heslop
>
> Paul Heslop <paul....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote :
>
> > and still have nowt to do with photography
>
> That used to be called a "scratched record".
>
rather a scratched record, Jane, than a bigot.
--
Paul (we break easy)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/
Paul Heslop
> >>
> >> On 2010-06-27 16:07:43 +0100, Dudley Hanks said:
> >>
> >> >> On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:56:54 +0100, Paul Heslop
> >> >> <paul....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >> : Jane Galt wrote:
> >> >> : >
> >> >> : > FYI, for the few friendlies here, I decided to order the
> >> >> : > SD4000IS.
> >> >> : >
> >> >> : > But this group is too infested with communist types to have a
> >> >> : > viable discussion about photo topics.
> >> >> : >
> >> >> : heh, communist types.
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, consider the source. Jane appears to have named herself after
> >> >> a character in one of Ayn Rand's ultra-capitalist screeds.
> >> >> Everything looks yellow to a jaundiced eye.
> >> >>
> >> >> all, the Exakta was made in East Germany. ;^)
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > To Jane, you have to be far right of a Republican to avoid the
> >> > "communist" label...
> >>
> >> And agree with everything she says.
> >>
> > that's the magic answer!
> >
> >
>
> Very funny guys, but in fact it's the socialist left that's now pushing for
> disagrees with them. ( like for example Glenn Beck )
>
> pouring water on the wicked witch to you types.
>
> --
> - Jane Galt
FOX 'NEWS'!!! jees, come on. For a start, you talk as if we are all
american, which we are not. but to hold FOX 'NEWS' up as an example of
something you are proud of is not a shining example of rational
thought. I don't watch the thing, it's bilge, but I do often see
excerpts from its shows shown on programs which spend a great deal of
time ridiculing it. What I have seen of it is the most biased right
wing shit and has little or no resemblance to actual 'news'
but, again, it has sod all to do with photography.
I am now guilty of sweeping statements myself because as far as I am
concerned anyone who believes Fox 'news' views shouldn't be allowed to
vote.
Paul Heslop
nah, free speech only works when they agree with what you are saying.
:O)
Paul Heslop
>
> Jane Galt <Jan...@gulch.xyz> wrote:
> >Not to mention the pervasive communist-socialist influence in Hollywood:
>
> Kook.
>
in here
Paul Heslop
Paul Heslop
Paul Heslop
> >> is oxymoronic.
> >
> > I should have said, deluded into pontificating.
> >
> >
>
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2541446/posts
>
> THE ANATOMY OF A SMEAR:
> How the Left is fighting to silence Glenn Beck
> ...
>
> Fascinating article, describes these guys to a T.
I bet you hate Michael Moore
DanP
> On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 05:15:48 -0700 (PDT), DanP <dan.pe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> : On Jun 26, 5:28 pm, Jane Galt <Jan...@gulch.xyz> wrote:
> : > FYI, for the few friendlies here, I decided to order the SD4000IS.
> : >
> : > But this group is too infested with communist types to have a
> : > viable discussion about photo topics.
> :
>
> That's a poor analogy. Pablo Picasso's work *is* all rubbish.
>
> Bob
Do you use Canon or Nikon?
DanP
Peter
news:2010062721102882188-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom...
> On 2010-06-27 20:21:18 -0700, Jane Galt <Jan...@gulch.xyz> said:
>
><snip>>
> bias which has you hanging off the right edge of the cliff. Your lack of
> original thought is telling.
>
You definitely will get more accurate and pertinent information from Google.
Did you really expect logic and reasoning.
there is a poster called Jane
whose responses are quite inane
when responding to a point
she rolls out a joint
and quotes something that's not quite germane.
--
Peter
Peter
news:Xns9DA4E9C923D...@216.196.97.142...
>
> My agenda is inalienable individual rights and self ownership.
You don't even own the comments you make.
--
Peter
Peter
> On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:24:34 -0500, Jane Galt <Jan...@gulch.xyz> wrote:
> : Not to mention the pervasive communist-socialist influence in Hollywood:
I doubt Galt is committed. Perhaps it should be.
--
Peter
Peter
You don't piss anybody off, yet. right now you just evoke pity.
--
Peter
Peter
> Paul Heslop <paul....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote :
>
>> Pete wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2010-06-27 16:07:43 +0100, Dudley Hanks said:
>>>
>>> >> On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:56:54 +0100, Paul Heslop
>>> >> <paul....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>> >> : >
>>> >> : > FYI, for the few friendlies here, I decided to order the
>>> >> : > SD4000IS.
>>> >> : >
>>> >> : > But this group is too infested with communist types to have a
>>> >> : > viable discussion about photo topics.
>>> >> : >
>>> >>
>>> >> Well, consider the source. Jane appears to have named herself after
>>> >> a character in one of Ayn Rand's ultra-capitalist screeds.
>>> >> Everything looks yellow to a jaundiced eye.
>>> >>
>>> >> Not that the group actually is infested with communist types, but
>>> >> that wouldn't preclude a viable discussion about photo topics. After
>>> >> all, the Exakta was made in East Germany. ;^)
>>> >>
>>> >> Bob
>>> >
>>> > To Jane, you have to be far right of a Republican to avoid the
>>> > "communist" label...
>>>
>>> And agree with everything she says.
>>>
>> that's the magic answer!
>>
>>
>
> Very funny guys, but in fact it's the socialist left that's now pushing
> for
> the "fairness doctrine" so they can shut down the free speech of anyone
> who
> disagrees with them. ( like for example Glenn Beck )
>
> 90% of the media leans socialist, yet Fox News having free speech is like
> pouring water on the wicked witch to you types.
>
Free <> accurate
As for the media, you are operating on the "repeat a big lie," theory.
--
Peter
Jane Galt
> Why would I profess any personal agenda in a photo newsgroup? I can
> shine a light on stupid rationalizing from time to time. Sometimes that
> light falls on me, sometimes someone else.
>
>
PLONK too.
--
- Jane Galt
Jane Galt
> Jane Galt wrote:
>>
>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote :
>>
>> >> Glenn Beck? The presence of "Beck" and "thinks" in the same sentence
>> >> is oxymoronic.
>> >
>> > I should have said, deluded into pontificating.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2541446/posts
>>
>> THE ANATOMY OF A SMEAR:
>> How the Left is fighting to silence Glenn Beck
>> ...
>>
>> Fascinating article, describes these guys to a T.
>
> I bet you hate Michael Moore
You win that bet.
--
- Jane Galt
Gill Collins
wrote:
>"Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
>news:2010062721102882188-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom...
>> On 2010-06-27 20:21:18 -0700, Jane Galt <Jan...@gulch.xyz> said:
>>
>><snip>>
>>> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2541446/posts
>>> Smear on dude.
>>
>> Again, the source of your information certainly has its agenda, and has a
>> bias which has you hanging off the right edge of the cliff. Your lack of
>> original thought is telling.
>>
>
>You definitely will get more accurate and pertinent information from Google.
You're new around here, aren't you.
Google presents those pages that get the most hits, whichever become the
most popular go to the top of their food-chain. Google is not a wellspring
of knowledge, it's a wellspring of whatever lame reasoning is the most
popular with those who can't grasp simple concepts to begin with.
The largest percentage of the population, which have lazy minds and lazy
research skills, will accept whatever explanation seems the most plausible
to them, with their limited powers of reasoning. These pages then become
the most popular and are then presented as of top-priority on any Google
search. Those who are equally afflicted with a lack of mental acuity and
prowess will then tell others of those links, forming and perpetuating a
fount of stupidity pandered off as some kind of truthful resource.
The discriminating, intelligent, reasoning mind will reject all first 20 to
50 or so listed pages of hits that Google presents, and will instead dig
deeper for any semblance of knowledge. Popularity of an answer does not a
fact make. The thinking person often comparing the answers from a dozen or
more resources before that information is deemed even the least bit worthy
for consideration. If even one of those pages disagrees with 50 others, no
matter how "professionally" they might all be presented, then that one page
in disagreement must be researched to see if it is in fact the truth and
the 50 others are just parroted squawkings of webpage-mimicking imbecility.
I've even found pages hosted by universities and government research
centers that have been in grievous error.
Ignorance is duplicated and spreads exponentially on the internet. If only
the same could be said for real knowledge.
Google is your friend -- but only if you are a total idiot.
Pete
Oh, that poster Jane Galt
My ears does she assault
My eyes get so sore
Keeping up with the score.
I just have to say
Living outside the USA
All this scream and shout
What the fuck's it all about?
Photography should be fun
Yet she talks of owning a gun
So something is very amiss
Better stop before taking the piss.
I'll try harder next time
To better this rhyme
If necessary, it is a pity
But it will definitely be more shitty.
--
Pete
Savageduck
Phew!
That was like a date from Hell, and you only escape when you agree not
to exchange numbers.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
Robert Coe
: Robert Coe <b...@1776.COM> wrote :
:
: > On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:08:42 -0500, Jane Galt <Jan...@gulch.xyz> wrote:
: >: Robert Coe <b...@1776.COM> wrote :
: >:
: >: > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:56:54 +0100, Paul Heslop: >: >: >
: >: >: > FYI, for the few friendlies here, I decided to order the SD4000IS.
: >: >: >
: >: >: > But this group is too infested with communist types to have a viable
: >: >: > discussion about photo topics.
: >: >: >
: >: >: heh, communist types.
: >: >
: >: > Well, consider the source. Jane appears to have named herself after a
: >: > character in one of Ayn Rand's ultra-capitalist screeds. Everything
: >: > looks yellow to a jaundiced eye.
: >: Smear people who believe in freedom. Very nice.
: >
: > You obviously think I'm one of your "communist types". This may come as a
: > shock to you; but given the demographics of Usenet, the odds are that I've
: > been a registered Republican for longer than you've been alive.
:
: What would it have to do with demographics?
Most people on Usenet are a good bit younger than I am.
: Are you, or not?
I have been a registered Republican since 1958.
: And who cares? "Republicrat" is a meaningless term because it's not
: objectively defined. You could be a conservative or a leninist and still be
: under the "big tent" of that undefined party.
I'm a Barry Goldwater Republican. (You've heard of him?) Which means I'm to
the left of virtually everybody in the party today.
Bob
Robert Coe
I ought to have better sense than to answer that. But what the hell, everybody
in this group knows anyway. I was a Nikon user in the film days and switched
to Canon when I went digital.
So what's that got to do with Pablo Picasso? I'd guess he was a Leica user,
assuming he ever took photographs at all.
Bob
tony cooper
>I have been a registered Republican since 1958.
I'm just a newcomer to politics, then, I registered as a Republican in
May, 1959. For several years I even voted Republican.
I am still a registered Republican, but it's been years since I've
voted for a Republican for national or state office. (I sometimes
vote for a Republican for local office)
I remain registered as a Republican to be a "spoiler" in the
Republican primary. I believe that the biggest danger to this country
is the Christian Conservative, so I vote for the opponent of anyone
who is endorsed by the Christian Coalition.
Remaining a registered Republican is also a bit fun at times. I get
telephone calls near the elections from campaign workers for
Republican candidates. They start out assuming, because I'm a
registered Republican, that I'm on their side. The conversation goes
downhill - for them - very quickly.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
tony cooper
wrote:
>Paul Heslop <paul....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote :
You don't have to be a right-winger to dislike Michael Moore. I think
he's a fraud. Like Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, and the rest of the
radical fringe, Moore presents selected bits that support his
positions. Moore's a radical, but at the opposite end of the spectrum
from the others mentioned.
Savageduck
Shamefully I confess, the last Republican I voted for was Nixon.
...and after discounting his criminal psychosis, compared to todays
batch of GOP candidates, he wasn't half bad.
Today I am decidedly anti-GOP.
I prefer not to waste my time with those calls. During the election
season my answering machine message goes something like this;
"You have reached 123-4567. If you know my cell phone number give that
a try. If not leave a message and I will get back to you as soon as
possible."
For the most part their robot chooses not to talk to my robot. I have
avoided many "Meg Whitman for governor" calls doing that.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
tony cooper
A candidate for Seminole (Florida) County Commission knocked on my
door Sunday. He offered a broad (but smarmy) smile, a firm handshake,
and a brochure.
The front page of the brochure says he's a Republican. That's OK, the
Democrats are mostly disorganized in this area, and the Republicans do
offer some good local candidates. I let him pass on that.
I read his brochure while he was standing there. The inside front
cover starts out "As a conservative Republican...". I started shaking
my head "no" at that point. The second page lists some organizations
he's affiliated with. I told him that his participation in a
"faith-based" leadership group was a mark against him in my book.
Also the listing of where he's an active member of a particular church
and a volunteer organizer of the National Day of Prayer Breakfast.
He asked me what I had against religion. I told him that I had
nothing against religion, but that I don't feel that religion should
be a part of politics, and by making his religiousness bullet points
he was telling me that he intended to bring his religious views with
him into office.
He seemed like a nice enough guy, but he'd never make it as a Mormon
or a JW. He gave up too easily. He slunk away quietly.
Jane Galt
>:
>: What would it have to do with demographics?
>
> Most people on Usenet are a good bit younger than I am.
>
>: Are you, or not?
>
> I have been a registered Republican since 1958.
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>: And who cares? "Republicrat" is a meaningless term because it's not
>: objectively defined. You could be a conservative or a leninist and
>: still be under the "big tent" of that undefined party.
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> I'm a Barry Goldwater Republican. (You've heard of him?) Which means I'm
> to the left of virtually everybody in the party today.
Of course, my grandma voted for him. But he was true libertarian leaning, not
socialist leaning.
"Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you want is
also big enough to take away everything you have.” -Barry Goldwater
This Cicero quote was what lost him the election, wasnt it?:
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in the pursuit of
justice is no virtue." - Marcus Tullius Cicero
What an "extremist" think to say! And he liked the Constitution! Horrors!
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- Jane Galt
Paul Heslop
Paul Heslop
oh yeah, I take much of what he says with a pinch of salt. I don't
think he lies, as such, but has a very narrow field of view. But then
he is in the entertainment business where fox 'news' is supposedly a
news channel.
DanP
Please plonk the whole group.
DanP
DanP
Your strong remark about Picasso made me think you would be the strong
opinionated type that gets involved into the silly Nikon vs Canon
debate.
It was a wild shot and I have missed.
IMHO Picasso reinvented painting and was a genius.
In the not so humble opinion of the experts he is still a genius.
DanP