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Jennifer Murphy

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Jan 2, 2014, 12:43:00 PM1/2/14
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I'd like some suggestions for the chords for this children's song.

There are quite a few websites and YouTube videos about this song. Here
are a few:

http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/m/misc_traditional/hole_in_the_bucket_crd.htm

Most of these play it in D, but they put the chords on the wrong words,
or so it seems to me.

D G
There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza.
D G A7 D
There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, there's a hole.


I think it should be:

D G ? G
There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza.
D G A7 D
There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, there's a hole.

It also seems to me that there should be another chord change in the
first line where I put the "?".


This guy is playing it in C:

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=there%27s+a+hole+in+the+bucket+chords&qpvt=there%27s+a+hole+in+the+bucket+chords&form=VDRE&first=1#view=detail&mid=6B441760263159BA979E6B441760263159BA979E

He has the chords on the right words and he has a C where I had the "?"
above. This seems OK to me, but not quite right. It sounds better in C
than in D, for some reason.

C F C F
There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza.
C F G7 C
There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, a hole.


Here's another YouTube video with George Gobel and Dean Martin:

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=there%27s+a+hole+in+the+bucket+chords&qpvt=there%27s+a+hole+in+the+bucket+chords&form=VDRE&first=1#view=detail&mid=8B0D46989CAAC10FF7368B0D46989CAAC10FF736

George seems to be playing it in C, but he throws in some other chords,
which I can't quite decode.


This guy is playing it in D with no chord change at the "?".

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=there%27s+a+hole+in+the+bucket+chords&qpvt=there%27s+a+hole+in+the+bucket+chords&form=VDRE&first=1#view=detail&mid=56A2FDE2F7D69AA1CAAA56A2FDE2F7D69AA1CAAA


This one shows the melody line and the chords. It's in G with no chord
change at the "?":

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=there%27s+a+hole+in+the+bucket+chords&qpvt=there%27s+a+hole+in+the+bucket+chords&form=VDRE&first=1#view=detail&mid=EA043847687D8C3A6360EA043847687D8C3A6360


So, what say you? What are the "right" chords for this little ditty?

Thanks

hank alrich

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Jan 2, 2014, 2:50:46 PM1/2/14
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None of this will work out well unless one uses a monospaced font,
especially if moving files across applications, to/from the Internet,
etc.

To my ear, neither of the below is accurate.

In D major in 3/4 time, and hoping the font works here:


D G D G
There's a hole in the bucket, Dear Liza, Dear Liza,

D G A D
There's a hole in the bucket, Dear Liza, a hole.




Jennifer Murphy <JenM...@jm.invalid> wrote:

> I'd like some suggestions for the chords for this children's song.
>
> There are quite a few websites and YouTube videos about this song. Here
> are a few:
>
> http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/m/misc_traditional/hole_in_the_bucket_crd.htm
>
> Most of these play it in D, but they put the chords on the wrong words,
> or so it seems to me.
>
> D G
> There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza.
> D G A7 D
> There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, there's a hole.
>
>
> I think it should be:
>
> D G ? G
> There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza.
> D G A7 D
> There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, there's a hole.
>
> It also seems to me that there should be another chord change in the
> first line where I put the "?".


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Jennifer Murphy

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Jan 2, 2014, 7:59:49 PM1/2/14
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[The top-posting makes it difficult to construct a readable thread, so
I've moved your comment here to the end and responded to it.]

Your version is essentially the same as mine with a G for the ? and an A
instead of the A7.

Let's try it this way. Here's mine:

There's a [D]hole in the [G]bucket, dear [?]Liza, dear [G]Liza.
There's a [D]hole in the [G]bucket, dear [A7]Liza, there's a [D]hole.

And here is yours, I think:

There's a [D]hole in the [G]bucket, dear [D]Liza, dear [G]Liza.
There's a [D]hole in the [G]bucket, dear [A]Liza, there's a [D]hole.

Is that right?

Yours sounds good. I prefer the A7. The D in place of my ? is OK. It
seems like it should be something else, but danged if I can figure it
out.

Nil

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Jan 2, 2014, 8:46:53 PM1/2/14
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On 02 Jan 2014, Jennifer Murphy <JenM...@jm.invalid> wrote in
rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic:

> Your version is essentially the same as mine with a G for the ?
> and an A instead of the A7.
>
> Let's try it this way. Here's mine:
>
> There's a [D]hole in the [G]bucket, dear [?]Liza, dear [G]Liza.
> There's a [D]hole in the [G]bucket, dear [A7]Liza, there's a
> [D]hole.
>
> And here is yours, I think:
>
> There's a [D]hole in the [G]bucket, dear [D]Liza, dear [G]Liza.
> There's a [D]hole in the [G]bucket, dear [A]Liza, there's a
> [D]hole.
>
> Is that right?
>
> Yours sounds good. I prefer the A7. The D in place of my ? is OK.
> It seems like it should be something else, but danged if I can
> figure it out.

I think you're over-analyzing this. It's a folk song and there are any
number of "correct" chords. They all work. Most of the ones I just
listened to on youtube are like this:

There's a [D]hole in the [G]bucket, dear [G]Liza, dear [G]Liza.
There's a [D]hole in the [G]bucket, dear [G]Liza, [A7]a [D]hole.

gtr

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Jan 2, 2014, 9:40:56 PM1/2/14
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On 2014-01-03 01:46:53 +0000, Nil said:

>> Yours sounds good. I prefer the A7. The D in place of my ? is OK.
>> It seems like it should be something else, but danged if I can
>> figure it out.

Hang out with some folkies and they'll give you new ideas. Chord
substitution is a big wide road and everybody's got a lot of solutions.

> I think you're over-analyzing this.

I think she's analyzing exactly as much as she needs to.

> It's a folk song and there are any number of "correct" chords. They all
> work. Most of the ones I just listened to on youtube are like this:
>
> There's a [D]hole in the [G]bucket, dear [G]Liza, dear [G]Liza.
> There's a [D]hole in the [G]bucket, dear [G]Liza, [A7]a [D]hole.

With people new to the process, being given a number of the potential
chords and letting them select which they like best is always a good
solution.

Jennifer Murphy

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Jan 2, 2014, 9:43:50 PM1/2/14
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On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 20:46:53 -0500, Nil <redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net>
wrote:

>On 02 Jan 2014, Jennifer Murphy <JenM...@jm.invalid> wrote in
>rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic:
>
>> Your version is essentially the same as mine with a G for the ?
>> and an A instead of the A7.
>>
>> Let's try it this way. Here's mine:
>>
>> There's a [D]hole in the [G]bucket, dear [?]Liza, dear [G]Liza.
>> There's a [D]hole in the [G]bucket, dear [A7]Liza, there's a
>> [D]hole.
>>
>> And here is yours, I think:
>>
>> There's a [D]hole in the [G]bucket, dear [D]Liza, dear [G]Liza.
>> There's a [D]hole in the [G]bucket, dear [A]Liza, there's a
>> [D]hole.
>>
>> Is that right?
>>
>> Yours sounds good. I prefer the A7. The D in place of my ? is OK.
>> It seems like it should be something else, but danged if I can
>> figure it out.
>
>I think you're over-analyzing this.

Hey, if I give up over-analyzing, I'll have nothing to do. ;-)

>It's a folk song and there are any
>number of "correct" chords. They all work.

Yes, I know. And I'm not trying to turn it into a jazz piece. A lot of
folk songs can be played with 2-3 chords, but really good musicians can
add a chord here and there and turn it into something really pleasing
without being overly complex.

>Most of the ones I just
>listened to on youtube are like this:
>
>There's a [D]hole in the [G]bucket, dear [G]Liza, dear [G]Liza.
>There's a [D]hole in the [G]bucket, dear [G]Liza, [A7]a [D]hole.

That works. My ear wants something other than 3 G's in a row in the
first line and for the A7 on Lisa in the second.

I've got a lesson in a few weeks. I'll see what the teacher says.

Thanks and cheers.

Steve Hawkins

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Jan 3, 2014, 12:07:37 AM1/3/14
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Jennifer Murphy <JenM...@jm.invalid> wrote in
news:id7cc9pqu62be9ams...@4ax.com:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with putting your own spin on a tune.

Steve Hawkins

Nil

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Jan 3, 2014, 1:08:07 AM1/3/14
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My simple chord sequence was good enough for Harry Belafonte and
Odetta, but every variation that's been mentioned here works. You can
feel free to pick and choose any elements you like from any of them.
It's not like the songwriter is going to sue you!

A reason to put the A7 on the word "a" rather than "Liza" is that it
avoids a momentary conflict between the melody and harmony. In real
life, the clash is so brief that it doesn't sound bad, so if you like
the A chord on Liza, there's no need to hesitate.

gtr

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Jan 3, 2014, 1:19:02 PM1/3/14
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On 2014-01-03 06:08:07 +0000, Nil said:

> A reason to put the A7 on the word "a" rather than "Liza" is that it
> avoids a momentary conflict between the melody and harmony. In real
> life, the clash is so brief that it doesn't sound bad, so if you like
> the A chord on Liza, there's no need to hesitate.

Such conflicts are sometimes called "anticipation" or "suspension".
Certainly not all such conflicts are good, but when handled effectively
they can define the tune. I was playing through Moon River the other
day and noting how it's practically constructed on such conflicts.
Particularly the b5's.

hank alrich

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Jan 3, 2014, 5:01:11 PM1/3/14
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"Night and Day"

gtr

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Jan 3, 2014, 8:30:02 PM1/3/14
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On 2014-01-03 22:01:11 +0000, hank alrich said:

> gtr <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-01-03 06:08:07 +0000, Nil said:
>>
>>> A reason to put the A7 on the word "a" rather than "Liza" is that it
>>> avoids a momentary conflict between the melody and harmony. In real
>>> life, the clash is so brief that it doesn't sound bad, so if you like
>>> the A chord on Liza, there's no need to hesitate.
>>
>> Such conflicts are sometimes called "anticipation" or "suspension".
>> Certainly not all such conflicts are good, but when handled effectively
>> they can define the tune. I was playing through Moon River the other
>> day and noting how it's practically constructed on such conflicts.
>> Particularly the b5's.
>
> "Night and Day"

Another great example. Also a great examle of chromatic movement in a melody.

Tom from Texas

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Jan 4, 2014, 2:22:54 PM1/4/14
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Remember you said that the next time you hear me play! :-{)

Tom from Texas

Tom from Texas

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Jan 4, 2014, 2:26:36 PM1/4/14
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I love it when yall talk dirty!

Tom from Texas

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Jun 22, 2017, 9:14:56 PM6/22/17
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How about a VIm (in this case Bm) for the [?]? Seems to hit some of the notes that are making people unsure whether it's a I or IV chord.

(I've come across this thread as a result of a commission to produce a sad-sounding version of the song, so that may be what sent me in a minor direction, but I think the minor chord there can still sound bouncy and jolly if the song's being played that way.)

gic.ro...@gmail.com

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Jun 22, 2017, 9:21:14 PM6/22/17
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Or possibly a 1st inversion G major (B-D-G)?

Chris Dunkle

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Jun 24, 2017, 5:46:23 PM6/24/17
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In article <0bb9cb9a-2d24-4c50...@googlegroups.com>,
gic.ro...@gmail.com says...
Try this;
G D G D G D G D
There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza
G D G D G D A7 D
There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, a hole

Chris

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Tony Done

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Jun 24, 2017, 6:45:59 PM6/24/17
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I would think that Ms Murphy has either got it down pat or given up on
it by now. :)



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