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Ketan

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Jul 13, 2010, 11:06:20 AM7/13/10
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SD composed this, RD composed this..who cares. They were visionaries, project
managers. SD's later years and RD's formative years can be called the 'R' rated
period of music--full of sax and violins. Basu-Manohari and Maruti were the ones
who created this 'R' rated music. Now they are all gone.

RIP Manohari Singh. Having met you in person several times, your knowledge, love
for music and sheer genius with the sax will be missed.


Shock(over the news) and Awe(at his music)


Ketan

Asif

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Jul 13, 2010, 12:00:03 PM7/13/10
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This news of Manohari Singh’s death is really shocking and saddening.
May his soul rest in peace. It would always be fulfilling to know
that he was behind the type of music that turned me on and touched the
core of my heart in those formative boyhood days. Incidentally, in
those very days of 1976 I fell spontaneously in love with two of his
finest compositions (along with Basu), ‘waada karo jaanam’ and ‘bahi
jaiyyo raani bahi jaiyyo na’, both from Sabse Bada Rupaiyya (1976).
Both these songs had the same type of music that truly regaled me in
those days, and I still had no clue about the connection between him,
R.D. Burman, and S.D. Burman whose songs (with same type of music) in
Barood (1975) soared my spirits equally highly then. The time flies
and the man dies, but memories and magic of Singh’s music will stay
on. R.I.P.

Asif

surjit singh

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Jul 13, 2010, 2:02:36 PM7/13/10
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RIP.

Extract from an interview with him by Booth:

http://www.oup.com/us/companion.websites/9780195327649/videos/?view=usa

Ketan

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Jul 14, 2010, 10:37:06 AM7/14/10
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In article <97c2051c-81d2-4055...@i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
surjit singh says...

>RIP.
>
>Extract from an interview with him by Booth:
>

>http://www.oup.com/us/companion.websites/9780195327649/videos/?view=3Dusa


When I found out about the news I was in a meeting and enough tears ran down my
eyes to make my boss stop the meeting and ask me if I was ok. I said yes, but I
wasn't ok. How could one be ok, when we have lost such a huge talent?

Meeting him at his residence this past December, I had invited him to come to
the US for a show. I said there are enough Pancham fanatics who would contribute
and bear the cost of his trip. He said, (paraphrasing) "how can I, with all
these ailments and dialysis and medicines". Instead "tum sab aate raho". Ever
the humble man, he said it made him happy to know that there still exist people
who like music of that era and it doesn't have to be just RD's music. He said "I
get enough pleasure in talking to people who are interested in how we did things
in those days, since pretty soon there will be no need for people like us who
can play instruments. I was a nobody and I played a very small role (I
vehemently disagreed with him on that small role statement) in the music that
was made by legends like like SD, RD, Salil, OPN, but I am glad I got that
opportunity. I wouldn't have had it differently." I don't think we the general
public would have it differently either.

For all the joy and happy moments and entertainment you have provided all these
years--a shastang pranam to you.

And lastly to Ankush, Raj and the Pune team--how can we thank you enough? Most
musicians wither away in obscurity once their glory days are gone. No one
remembers them after they are dead. No one even knows their assistants when they
are alive. The Pune team(and now the Kolkata team) moved heaven and earth to
ensure that RD and his music weren't forgotten. Imagine the last 16 years that
we would have spent with Manohariji, Kersiji, Homiji, Kanchabhai etc sitting
somewhere in some "kholi" forgotten to the rest of the world and gone the way of
Jaidev, Dattaram, N.Dutta etc? Ankush and team--and here I will included
Brahmanand for his movie, Vishwas Nerurkar for his book--in their own unique way
have done a phenomenal job of archiving that knowledge of a bygone era that even
Google can't match. We are truly enriched by their single minded devotion. Keep
up the great work.


Ketan

Deepak

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Jul 14, 2010, 3:44:55 PM7/14/10
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"Ketan" <Ketan_...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:i1ki2...@drn.newsguy.com...

Very touching post. While on the subject of artiste's past their glory days,
any one know the status of Braz Gonsalves also an alto sax player?

Deepak

Asif

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Jul 14, 2010, 8:25:28 PM7/14/10
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On Jul 14, 3:44 pm, "Deepak" <deepak.sab...@hp.com> wrote:
> "Ketan" <Ketan_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>
> news:i1ki2...@drn.newsguy.com...
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <97c2051c-81d2-4055-a313-11a0bd53d...@i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,

> > surjit singh says...
>
> >>RIP.
>
> >>Extract from an interview with him by Booth:
>
> >>http://www.oup.com/us/companion.websites/9780195327649/videos/?view=3...

All day today I kept thinking about him and kept humming his songs
'waada karo jaanam' and 'bahi jaiyo na raani', and I still could not
console myself over the loss of a man who left an everlasting good
impression on me in 1976. I still do not know how to pay my respects
to his soul, what to do, what to say ... the loss is great and the
sorrow is deep. Here the two songs by him that often transport me
back to those good, old days:

Bahi jaiyo na raani:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM34VB6jfXs&feature=PlayList&p=7A8BCD30B9E0F83A&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=14

Waada karo jaanam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoD-uSN28F4

Asif

Archisman Mozumder

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Jul 14, 2010, 8:50:22 PM7/14/10
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On Jul 15, 5:25 am, Asif <alvi.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> All day today I kept thinking about him and kept humming his songs
> 'waada karo jaanam' and 'bahi jaiyo na raani', and I still could not
> console myself over the loss of a man who left an everlasting good
> impression on me in 1976.  I still do not know how to pay my respects
> to his soul, what to do, what to say ... the loss is great and the
> sorrow is deep.  Here the two songs by him that often transport me
> back to those good, old days:
>
> Bahi jaiyo na raani:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM34VB6jfXs&feature=PlayList&p=7A8BCD3...

>
> Waada karo jaanam:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoD-uSN28F4
>
> Asif

Dear Asif-saab,

Had never listened to 'bahi jaiyo na rani' before. Nice song. Many
thanks.

Here is a Basu-Manohari composition (a bengali song sung by Rafi-saab)
of the late 70-s. Lovely tune.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDZ31SdsADI

Regards.

Niketan

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Jul 15, 2010, 9:19:08 AM7/15/10
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When I first heard the songs of Sabse Bada Rupaiya in 1976, I thought
and continued to think for a long time that they were RD compositions.
Later I came to know about Basu Manohari. Later i came to understand
the importance of this legend. I treasure the day I met him.
RIP Manohari-da a legendary musician and a wonderful person.

Asif

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Jul 15, 2010, 8:47:21 PM7/15/10
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Archie:

I just listened to the song - sounds very good though I cannot
understand Bangla at all. Somehow the tune sounds likes bits and
pieces of 'jeene ko to jeete hain sabhi' (Yeh Vaada Raha, 1981) - no
surprise there. When was this Bangla song recorded?

Asif

Archisman Mozumder

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Jul 15, 2010, 9:21:39 PM7/15/10
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On Jul 16, 5:47 am, Asif <alvi.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Archie:
>
> I just listened to the song - sounds very good though I cannot
> understand Bangla at all.  Somehow the tune sounds likes bits and
> pieces of 'jeene ko to jeete hain sabhi' (Yeh Vaada Raha, 1981) - no
> surprise there.  When was this Bangla song recorded?
>
> Asif

Don't know exactly. Between 1977-79 I guess.

The song also has some resemblance with 'waada karo jaanam' (sabse
bada rupaiyya).

Here is Rafi-saab's other song which was released on the flip side of
the 45 rpm EP for that year's puja release.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Yvnvq2wZes&feature=related

To continue with a group of similar sounding songs, here is a song
composed by only Basu (Basudeb Chakrabarti) from a bengali movie of
the early 80-s.

The song was originally rendered (amazingly) by Kishore Kumar.

I could not find an original link on Youtube. So here is a version
sung by my good friend, Debabrata Mukherjee.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEoRTabUvqM

Regards.

P Dasgupta

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Jul 16, 2010, 12:45:21 AM7/16/10
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On Jul 15, 8:21 pm, Archisman Mozumder <archi...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Don't know exactly. Between 1977-79 I guess.
>

> Here is Rafi-saab's other song which was released on the flip side of


> the 45 rpm EP for that year's puja release.

It seems this release was indeed an EP (Extended Play), implying there
were 4 songs on the disc. Youtube reveals another song, the immensely
popular "tomader ashirbade ei shatadal mathay rakhi". This song was a
rage in Durga Puja pandal mic-s in 1980, the year Rafi passed away.
This gives us 3 songs of Rafi-BM combo...

1) taar chokhe neme asa
2) gulmoharer phul jhore jaay
3) tomader ashirbade ei shatadal

So, what was the 4th song on this EP?

Did Manohari-ji (individually or as Basu Manohari) compose music for
any Bengali film or non-film song other than these?

> The song ("cheyechhi jaare aami") was originally rendered
> (amazingly) by Kishore Kumar.

KK version is here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2ZhYWZPiKA

-pdg/

Archisman Mozumder

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Jul 16, 2010, 5:02:50 AM7/16/10
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On Jul 16, 9:45 am, P Dasgupta <prithviraj.dasgu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It seems this release was indeed an EP (Extended Play), implying there
> were 4 songs on the disc. Youtube reveals another song, the immensely
> popular "tomader ashirbade ei shatadal mathay rakhi". This song was a
> rage in Durga Puja pandal mic-s in 1980, the year Rafi passed away.
> This gives us 3 songs of Rafi-BM combo...
>
> 1) taar chokhe neme asa
> 2) gulmoharer phul jhore jaay
> 3) tomader ashirbade ei shatadal
>
> So, what was the 4th song on this EP?
>
> Did Manohari-ji (individually or as Basu Manohari) compose music for
> any Bengali film or non-film song other than these?
>
> > The song ("cheyechhi jaare aami") was originally rendered
> > (amazingly) by Kishore Kumar.
>
> KK version is here
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2ZhYWZPiKA
>
> -pdg/

Dear Prithviraj,

You are absolutely right. An 'EP' in the late 70-s would surely have 4
songs. Thanks for pointing this out.

Searched the net to find the 4th song. A ho-hum number that went like
'kono chaal-baajer mukhey mishti haanshir phaanki'.

Played the song online via this link:

http://www.sanidapa.com/search/mohmad+rafi/3/mp3/

Remembered the song instantly. Also realised why I did not remember it
for all these years. :)

I think Basudev Chakrabarti composed for the movie 'Praarthona'.
(Thanks for the link of the original KK number from this movie).

Cannot recall any bengali movie with Basu Manohari as composers. There
were 4 non-film songs of Kishore Kumar in bengali, composed by them:

- tomaay porechhe mone emon shraabon diney
- aaj theke aar bhaalobaashaar naam nebo naa aami
- joriye dhorechhi jaare shey aamaar noy
- mon jaanala khule de naa baataash laaguk praane

A Megaphone release of the cusp of 70-s & 80-s.

Regards.

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