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>Earlier, in Guru Dutt's Sahib Bibi Aur Ghulam, the director's wife Geeta Dutt
>had sang all the Meena Kumari
>songs. Asha had to make do with the leftovers filmed on second-lead Waheeda
>Rehman for whom Mrs Dutt
>didn't want to sing.
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>(** this i certainly do not believe...i think it was just to have different
>voices...otherwise the songs she had in
>the movie are no less than the ones sung by Geeta Dutt)
>
Geeta Dutt did not want to sing for Waheeda Rehman at that point of time.
That is a fact. However the left over arguement is 'faaltu'. Geeta Dutt
was singing very few songs around the time SBG was released. It was decided
that she would sing Meena Kumari's numbers in SBG and Guru Dutt did
not want to bring Lata for Jaba's (waheeda rehman) character.
Guru Dutt had some animosity towards Lata during that
period. The story behind this (from Ismat Chughtai's 'ajeeb aadmi') is as
follows. Geeta Dutt had called up Lata one night and cried bitterly about
her husband's relationship with Waheeda. Lata on hearing this rushed
immediately to comfort her and subsequently declared that she would not
work with anybody who worked with Guru Dutt. Guru Dutt did feel the
pressure of this declaration, went back to Geeta and apologised who
later asked Lata to take back her statement. Another point to be noted is
that Jaba's character is secondary in the novel and the movie. I personally am
not sure whether Lata would sing for Jaba's character though it is
entirely a hypothetical question in my mind.
In any case Asha's songs in SBG are neither leftovers nor pushovers.
regards
Anand (a Dev Anand fan)
And I cannot understand this 'she was always known as lata's sibling' argument.
I grew up listening to the songs from both the sisters, and in the 50's or the
60's, I do not recall this argument being put forth by anoy one, including Asha
herself. This seems to be a recent phenomenon being put forward, IMHO, and may
have its origins in the writings of today's journalists who want to bring
sensationalism to any, sorry, everything. All, IMHO, please.
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
Taking some of the above arguments even further, I do not have the full
scenario of all the films produced by Guru Dutt. If we take the Filmarts' jaal
(1952) directed by Guru Dutt, Lata had some beautiful songs in it. However,
thereafter, in none of the Guru Dutt films like Baaz, Aar Paar, Mr. & Mrs. 55,
CID, Pyaasa, Kaagaz ke Phool, Sahib Bibi Gulam, did Lata sing for Guru Dutt !
I heard this before during those days (cannot recollect the source now), that
she did not sing for Guru Dutt films, since OP Nayyar was the chosen one for
Guru Dutt's movies from Baaz onwards (until Pyaasa), and we all know that she
did not sing for OP Nayyar!!.
Now what started first, her refusal to sing for OPN and hence for Guru Dutt,
or vice-versa, should be a topic for the researchers.
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
Waheeda came into Guru Dutt's life after "Aar - Paar" and Mr and Mrs 55,
somewhere between 55 and 56. So IMHO, Lata is absent from the soundtracks
of early Guru Dutt films due to the O.P Nayyar factor. The incident which i
referred
to above comes later in Guru Dutt's life. Geeta sang practically all the
songs for Guru Dutt films with a couple being sung by Shamshad and others.
After all she had stopped singing for outside films due to Guru Dutt's
insistence and assurance that she would sing all the major songs for his
banner.
Another point to be noted is that Lata addresses Geeta as 'didi' in the book.
This and her subsequent stand against Guru Dutt clearly demonstrates that
there was no problem between Geeta Dutt and Lata. In a nutshell, i feel
that Lata and Guru Dutt did not come together initially because of OPN.
In the next stage Guru Dutt did not use anybody other than Geeta (for all
the major numbers in his films). Then came the incident described above. Guru
Dutt never forgot Lata's arm twisting tactics (even though i appreciate what
Lata did) and never used Lata again.
Also 'Jaal' which Satish ji points out was a Filmarts production. It
was produced by a mutual friend of Dev and Guru Dutt named T.R Fatehchand.
This gentleman also gave Raj Khosla his first break with the Dev starrer
'Milaap'. 'Jaal' was too early in Guru Dutt's career. I do not think he
had the same standing in the industry at that time compared to the legendary
status he gained towards the end of his career and life. He contributed
in some measure to the music of all films made under the 'Guru Dutt films
pvt ltd' banner but i am not sure whether he had a say in the music of
'Baazi', 'Jaal' and 'Baaz'.
Another comment worth remembering in the context of 'Pyaasa' and 'Kagaz Ke
Phool' is by Ashok ji: Geeta Dutt was SDB's favourite singer. Also Lata
and SDB had a tiff at some point of time maybe around 1960 (i am not sure of
the period just guessing from the fact that 'Kaala Bazaar' (1960) has Geeta,
Asha and Sudha Malhotra but no Lata!). So this may add two more reasons
to explain why Lata is absent in Guru Dutt films.
At least there is one legend in Hindi cinema whose films have great music
despite the fact that Lata is absent from most of his works.
regards
Anand (a Dev Anand fan)
PS: This discussion needs Vish and Ashok ji.
In Lata's Shradhanjali, she does talk about her relationship with
Geeta. It seems like they were quite close.
> Another comment worth remembering in the context of 'Pyaasa' and 'Kagaz Ke
> Phool' is by Ashok ji: Geeta Dutt was SDB's favourite singer. Also Lata
> and SDB had a tiff at some point of time maybe around 1960 (i am not sure of
> the period just guessing from the fact that 'Kaala Bazaar' (1960) has Geeta,
> Asha and Sudha Malhotra but no Lata!). So this may add two more reasons
> to explain why Lata is absent in Guru Dutt films.
>
> At least there is one legend in Hindi cinema whose films have great music
> despite the fact that Lata is absent from most of his works.
>
Lata's last song for a Guru Dutt film was the fabulous 'badle badle mere
sarkar nazar aate hain...' from Chaudvin Ka Chand. I read composer
Ravi's interview on this subject in Filmfare a couple of years ago.
According to him, Lata had rehearsed another great song for Chaudvin Ka
Chand, but later Guru Dutt decided to drop the song and no one bothered
to tell Lata. She was told about it only when she showed up for the
recording and that pissed her off and she decided not to sing for
Ravi and Guru Dutt ever again. Of course she did sing for Ravi later,
but her relationship with him was never the same and he regretted that.
Cheers,
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ANIL P. HINGORANI
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