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"Being that Q-Tip and Cube WERE cool
I don't know why Cube would let him dis Tip on a record that had Cube
on it, unless this East/West shit really faded him"
Q-Tip appears on a mix tape hollering "West Coast niggas, I'ma bust yo'
shit" and now he's trying to patch it up by claiming he said "West Coast
*haters*" meaning he's gonna bust anybody who hates the West Coast.
Everybody knows that's bullshit because he's tight with Mobb Deep and them
kids got members in their crew hollering about "LA, LA". Q-Tip is on some
sheisty shit. How the fuck he gonna claim love on albums, appear with Del
and the Alkoholiks on cuts, then flip around and hop on the East/West
bandwagon. I remember hearing Tip distinctly say "west coast niggas" when
I heard the tape. I'm gonna dig it up and transcribe all of the lyrics.
If Tip did say that dumb shit - which was supposedly aimed at Abstract
Rude - then he loses all my respect and, yep, WC was right to dis him
back. Ab Rude ripped the shit out of Tip on this one track ("I'm From a
Wicked"?? was that the title? damn, i need that tape back).
war,
alan
Look at it like this. WC is a grow man. Cube can't tell WC what to do.
It's West Side Connection, not Ice Cube and the Posse. Everyone is equal
and can say whatever they want.
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I guess they diss anyone who ain't down with their gangsta shit.....
Joseph Hin-bun Mak (jhb...@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca) wrote:
: Now this really got me fired up. I got the Westside Connection LP,
: and then on a cut that I found pretty good, I hear WC start dissin'
: Q-Tip. Now that's just fucked up. Being that Q-Tip and Cube WERE cool
: I don't know why Cube would let him dis Tip on a record that had Cube
: on it, unless this East/West shit really faded him. So the list is
: so far: King Sun, Volume 10, Cypress Hill, and Q-Tip?
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Peace
MJC
On 5 Nov 1996, APage20301 wrote:
> PS: Why was Tip's silly ass saying "we make moves, not movies" on the BR&L
> L.P. when I saw him big as day in "Poetic Justice"? Peep the article on
Well, my understanding is that "making movies" is a slang
term for folks who are talking a lot of unsubstantiated noise
(folks don't use it where I'm from, so corrections are welcome).
As such, it has nothing to do with actual film making.
> Tribe in the latest issue of One Nut Magazine for an extensive article on
> tribe's whole career which reveals how hypocritical those kids are. I
> mean, does anybody remeber Tip's vocals from Heavy D's "Don't Curse"?
> Anyone ever notice that whenever Tip freestyles he says "fuck" oir "shit"
> every other word? And you guys call Ice Cube a hypocrite...
>
If Tip's biggest vice is cussing when he said that he didn't, then
he's a lot better off then most artists out there.
Tony "Keynote" Sebro
You can't point to don't curse. Kool G Rap, BDK, and Puba was on there
also but I still hear them swearin'. I did, however, notice there wasn't
one swear word on "People's Instinctive travels...," some were edited out
on Low End Theory, less on Midnight Marauders, and only one songs (forget
which) on Beats, Rhymes, and Life. Tip has gone on record as saying that
now that he's a Muslim, he won't swear anymore. Strange, 'cause his
conversion to Islam wasn't long after Midnight Marauders, and on the
recent Smokin' Grooves Tour, he swore up a storm. well, no one's perfect.
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Yep... perhaps there a chance that Tribe is _almost_ as hypocritical
as...well... pretty much every other emcee out there... ... might I mention
your own hypocritical tendencies Alan which (denie as you might) have
popped up through your theories. We're all human. We say thing at one
time, then change our mind's later, especially when we're youths and are
still trying to figure out where we stand on almost every issue. Hell, the
whole "teenage" "rebel without a cause" existance for most kids is
essentially a hypocritical one, if you see what I'm getting at. Q-tip was
not a wise old man already set in his beleifs and ways when he did that
song with Heavy D, he was young... very young, he still is young in many
respects. Times change, so do people, so do beleifs, so so ideas, on a
constant basis. So stop trying to catch every last emcee (ie Jeru) out
on every last incosistency in their subject matter over the years. Cube
is a hypcrite. Q_Tip, yes, but probabaly less so in my opinion.
BTW, I have a couple Q-tip freestyles, he don't cuss that much.....
I don't see what you mean there really either. But whatever....
peace
quizativ
What did he say?
-Redz
sj> You can't point to don't curse. Kool G Rap, BDK, and Puba was on
sj> also but I still hear them swearin'. I did, however, notice there
sj> one swear word on "People's Instinctive travels...," some were edited
sj> on Low End Theory, less on Midnight Marauders, and only one songs
sj> which) on Beats, Rhymes, and Life. Tip has gone on record as saying
sj> now that he's a Muslim, he won't swear anymore. Strange, 'cause his
sj> conversion to Islam wasn't long after Midnight Marauders, and on the
sj> recent Smokin' Grooves Tour, he swore up a storm. well, no one's
Why were some edited out? Was that to reach a quota so that they didn't receive
the parental advisory sticker or something? Sometimes ATCQ will say BS or F so
they don't say bullshit or fuck. However, in concert they don't hold back at
all. =)
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Cory Lee <co...@acs2.acs.ucalgary.ca> wrote in article
<55o550$p...@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>...
>
> > Joseph Hin-bun Mak (jhb...@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca) wrote:
> : Now this really got me fired up. I got the Westside Connection LP,
> : and then on a cut that I found pretty good, I hear WC start dissin'
> : Q-Tip. Now that's just fucked up. Being that Q-Tip and Cube WERE cool
> : I don't know why Cube would let him dis Tip on a record that had Cube
> : on it, unless this East/West shit really faded him. So the list is
> : so far: King Sun, Volume 10, Cypress Hill, and Q-Tip?
>
Torak
"It's not easy being a tyrant."
Ain't that som shit? Didn't Q-Tip remixed one of Ice Cube's last hits?
-What Can I Do?- And now this shit? I heard the cut too and I was pryin ma
ears was wrong and W.C. didn't diss Tip, but he did. Maybe it's some
behind the scenes beef they may have, cuz I KNOW it juss can't be coastal
shit. How many times Tip has said he ain't into that East-West shit. Plus
he a positive brother from way back...
El Guapo
Joseph Hin-bun Mak (jhb...@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca) writes:
> Now this really got me fired up. I got the Westside Connection LP,
> and then on a cut that I found pretty good, I hear WC start dissin'
> Q-Tip. Now that's just fucked up. Being that Q-Tip and Cube WERE cool
> I don't know why Cube would let him dis Tip on a record that had Cube
> on it, unless this East/West shit really faded him. So the list is
> so far: King Sun, Volume 10, Cypress Hill, and Q-Tip?
>
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>
>
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I truly don't know. But, Midnight Maruaders (and I think Beats,
Rhymes...) didn't get a sticker either. That brings up the question:
what are explicit lyrics? Is it cursing or lyrics that could be
considered misogynist? racist? etc?
I dont see why this is getting so many responses. I dont think Q-Tip is
all that and I definately care if WC is dissing him. I dont care who
disses who for that matter!
>Cube
>is a hypcrite. Q_Tip, yes, but probabaly less so in my opinion.
I mean based purely on what is said on records, not in their personal
lives. Based purely on what was said on records, where has Ice Cube had an
inconsistency? Where have his lyrics in one song directly contradicted
what he said in another song?
Just a question to think about...
alan
What Q-Tip is on a pedestal and can't/shouldn't be dissed? Do you think
Q-Tip is getting all heated over this as much as all these fans on the
internet? I doubt it. Likewise, I think Cube, WC and Wack-10 (see) can be
dissed too.
Does anyone have the actual mixtape in question where Tip ALLEGEDLY ran his
mouth about the West Coast? Get to the actual source instead of listening to
rumor and half-truths. Until I hear the tape myself (which I hope Cube, etc
did) then I can't pass judgement on Tip or Westside Connection. Xzibit even
did or planned a track dissing Tip about what he ALLEGEDLY said but then I
guess/heard that he squashed it after talking to Tip in person.
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>Now this really got me fired up. I got the Westside Connection LP,
>and then on a cut that I found pretty good, I hear WC start dissin'
>Q-Tip. Now that's just fucked up. Being that Q-Tip and Cube WERE cool
>I don't know why Cube would let him dis Tip on a record that had Cube
>on it, unless this East/West shit really faded him. So the list is
>so far: King Sun, Volume 10, Cypress Hill, and Q-Tip?
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> j-MAK
It was kinda strange to hear WC dissin' Tip but I heard he was talkin'
about gangsta rap....
WC is his own man, Cube ain't gonna tell him what he can and can't
say..
>
CDAWG
anywayz...
>Xzibit even
>did or planned a track dissing Tip about what he ALLEGEDLY said but then
I
>guess/heard that he squashed it after talking to Tip in person.
I interviewed Xzibit and he said no such thing. And we talked at length
about the Q-Tip "west coast ____" controversy. In the interview, however,
he said clearly that he does NOT dis people on records. Peep the man's
words yourself in the current newstand issue of 4080 with Westside
Connection on the cover.
alan
You probably have pictures of Q-Tip up on the walls in your room that you
took out of Right On!
Thanks Alan,
I know I read that from a reliable source (not so after all, I can't even
remember the name) but if you interviewed Xzibit and specifically asked him if he
ever had a Tip diss planned and he said no then you're right. I was wrong....
I'll got check out 4080.
> Wack 10 to the 100th power at his side, now he wants to talk shit. Tip
> would ate that trick alive in a battle.
A real battle or a hip hop battle? In a rhyme fight, I call it a
toss depending on who the judges are, but in real life? Tip's peacemaker
ass wouldn't last ten seconds.
-C.
>
> I guess they diss anyone who ain't down with their gangsta shit.....
Which is the best thing about that album. It's about time the
gangstaz stood up for gangsta rap.
-C.
> all that and I definately care if WC is dissing him. I dont care who
> disses who for that matter!
Good for you.
-C.
> What Q-Tip is on a pedestal and can't/shouldn't be dissed? Do you think
> Q-Tip is getting all heated over this as much as all these fans on the
> internet? I doubt it. Likewise, I think Cube, WC and Wack-10 (see) can be
Nah, but only becuz he knows he'd lose a war like that.
> Does anyone have the actual mixtape in question where Tip ALLEGEDLY ran his
> mouth about the West Coast? Get to the actual source instead of listening to
I kind of thought it was in reference to Tip's general dislike of
gangsta rap, with lines like "N*ggaz so hard it's a wonder they alive"
from THE SHOW soundtrack.
-C.
really..you been on the inside of a few federal penitentiaries in the
last few weeks...cause I know you ain't referring to Cube, Mack 10 and
WC as REAL gangstas
Malik
I 8 BaLL
a very small percentange (like maybe 1 or 2%) are real gangstas..but if
they ain't real gangstas..why do they claim to be?
Malik
> WC dissed Q? Gimme an address, I'll kill the mutha-fucka myself!
Kill the Killa? Please. Sit your positivity-lovin' ass down!
-C.